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[mattmct]

Almost everybody who holds this coin has and should have confidence, but comments like "750m market cap this year are realistic" are a little exaggerated. Who seriously think that DRK will go beyond $1500. I hope noone is that delusional

Why not?

At ~ $175 per coin 750m cap is reached at around 4.280.000 coins

This isn't unrealistic. Optimistic - yes, but not unrealistic. Given enough demand for an anonymous coin - no problems with such level and above.

Who would have thought 1-2 ago that bitcoin will be 600-700$ ?

2,5 years ago I could have started mining bitcoins having read and calculated a lot, but I ignored it as at the time it was under electricity cost on my rig. Guess how I feel now   ouch

Lol I keep thinking that also.  The guys that made real money were the ones who were mining it at a loss, ie, costing more in electricity than they were mining a day.  The ones that made it BIG were the ones mining it before there were even any exchanges lol.

[illodin]

Does DRK can automatcly prevent 51% in one pool ?
or limitate Mh/s per pool from the total mh/s
If one personne want more mh/s he have to mount an other pool.

Maybe it would be possible to adjust the block reward according to how often the same wallet finds the block? So if a pool has close to 50% they are finding almost 50% of the blocks, and if the algorithm would start decreasing the reward given to the big pool people would be motivated to move to smaller pools.

Thoughts?

[mattmct]

BTW, the DarkCoin clone, Hirocoin...... a lot of people over there are excited by the fact that it uses X11, and its low power usage.

Clearly a big selling point over here also, but they seem to be doing a good job at marketing the X11.  I see X11 written around the place a lot more than here.  Just a thought ... As it seems that X11 is getting a decent amount of attention now.

[chaeplin]

Chaepin, please help me! I pulled the p2ppool source, and I keep failing on

sudo python setup.py install

I get this error:

Code:

In file included from /usr/include/boost/python/detail/prefix.hpp:13:0,
                    from /usr/include/boost/python/module.hpp:8,
                    from darkcoin_GetBlockBaseValue.cpp:63: /usr/include/boost/python/detail/wrap_python.hpp:50:23: fatal error: pyconfig.h: No such file or directory
# include <pyconfig.h>
                               ^
compilation terminated.
error: command 'x86_64-linux-gnu-gcc' failed with exit status 1

Am I building in the wrong directory? Am I just missing something obvious?

Aaaargh!

apt-get install libboost1.48-all-dev python-dev

Suse ?
zypper in gcc-c++ boost-devel python-devel

[HammerHedd]

+1.  Totally agree.  Last thing anyone wants it a failed launched of DarkSend.  It's great that evan wants to get it perfect before it goes out of beta.  I'm glad I've been part of the beta testing.  

I am more than happy to wait... Plus, I'll finally have a pool up and running by then

[chaeplin]

What's hapen if a multipool mine at 271 for 1 block. then stop mining the next one  who go to 350. Then mine the next who down to 272 ?

Its possible that ? or DGW prevent that ?

eduffield's announcement.

I'm really happy with my current implementation of DGW, it seems to be vastly improved over KGW. It uses multiple exponential moving averages and a simple moving average to smoothly adjust the difficulty. We've had huge fluctuations in testnet and it's dealt with everything perfectly.

This implementation also fixes all known exploits with KGW, so no more 10k+ difficulty blocks out of nowhere.

So DGW prevent.

that's great.

Does DRK can automatcly prevent 51% in one pool ?
or limitate Mh/s per pool from the total mh/s
If one personne want more mh/s he have to mount an other pool.
  

I saw this. https://github.com/Crypto-Expert/stratum-mining/issues/315#issuecomment-37779922

[stealth923]

BTW, the DarkCoin clone, Hirocoin...... a lot of people over there are excited by the fact that it uses X11, and its low power usage.

Clearly a big selling point over here also, but they seem to be doing a good job at marketing the X11.  I see X11 written around the place a lot more than here.  Just a thought ... As it seems that X11 is getting a decent amount of attention now.

I mined Hiro at launch...sold it all last night and snapped up another bag of Dark

[boubou]

Here is the .conf:

,
"intensity" : "21",
"kernel" : "darkcoin",
"gpu-fan" : "60",
"no-submit-stale" : true,
"failover-only" : true,
"log" : "5",
"queue" : "0",
"kernel-path" : "/usr/local/bin"


Can't do much clean. I just delete my OC settings and do a test few minutes ago with this.
Start at 2.2, 10 min later, it drops in the exact same second to 2.0 (all 3 cards 290), the 270 remain steady.

Temp are stable under 60°

I haven't used BAMT so I'm not sure if the miner could be the problem.  Have you tried using sph-sgminer in windows?  My first thought when I seen your post is a psu issue.  The cards get fired up.  It usually takes them 5-10 mins to settle down to their regular run speed.  During this time your PSU is heating up.  By the time it hits your 10 min mark it may be getting too hot or pulling to much power.  It could be cutting some voltage.  What size psu and how many cards per psu?  I've also seen several comments about how fan auto can decrease hashrate.  I would think the auto setting would affect you from the get go though.

I have 3 290 and the motherboard on a 750w single rail PSU.
My fan is set to 60, I assume it turn the fan auto-off?

I use on my other rig 6 7970 drawing less than 720W, so I did not suspect it.

[mattmct]

BTW, the DarkCoin clone, Hirocoin...... a lot of people over there are excited by the fact that it uses X11, and its low power usage.

Clearly a big selling point over here also, but they seem to be doing a good job at marketing the X11.  I see X11 written around the place a lot more than here.  Just a thought ... As it seems that X11 is getting a decent amount of attention now.

I mined Hiro at launch...sold it all last night and snapped up another bag of Dark

The HIRO launch was a pretty pathetic ninja-insta-mine festival. Ridiculous.

Yeah I manged a grab 5K worth, pretty worthless lol.  Also planning on exchanging for Dark lol

[HammerHedd]

Chaepin, please help me! I pulled the p2ppool source, and I keep failing on

sudo python setup.py install

I get this error:

Code:

In file included from /usr/include/boost/python/detail/prefix.hpp:13:0,
                    from /usr/include/boost/python/module.hpp:8,
                    from darkcoin_GetBlockBaseValue.cpp:63: /usr/include/boost/python/detail/wrap_python.hpp:50:23: fatal error: pyconfig.h: No such file or directory
# include <pyconfig.h>
                               ^
compilation terminated.
error: command 'x86_64-linux-gnu-gcc' failed with exit status 1

Am I building in the wrong directory? Am I just missing something obvious?

Aaaargh!

apt-get install libboost1.48-all-dev python-dev

Suse ?
zypper in gcc-c++ boost-devel python-devel

Ubuntu 13.10 -

apt-get can't find the package or the regex 'libboost1.48-all-dev'

So, in a stroke of "Why not?" I tried 'apt-get install libboost-all-dev' and it worked. It looks like everything compiled...

Now, however, python run_p2pool.py isn't finding run_p2pool.py. In fact, I can't find it anywhere either.... It's not in /usr/bin where I thought it might be... Am I truly this incapable of this simple task?!

[eduffield]

Already darkcoin forks popping up, if darkcoin wants to be a success there has to be more innovation ^^.

More innovation? You mean like the DGW, that was implemented literally a few minutes ago?

DarkCoin "forks" popping up that don't contain DGW or DarkSend....

More like Litecoin forks with scientific hashing.  

AS i sayd, i think darkcoin took a great track, but it has to sustain. There is a very good reason im here now , and its the only alt crypto i ever recognized as worth my time .

I wholeheartedly agree. This can't be the end of the innovation by any means - DRK needs to be understood as THE privacy innovation crypto, and we all need to get behind Evan on that. All these pump-dumpers complaining that "Darksend's never finished" can go hang. Any dev worth the project they're working on knows encryption features are never 100% "done". I'd love to see it to be the first cryptocoin to implement the latest developments in quantum cryptography, or something similarly newsworthy. I have no idea if that's even possible, but we need to shoot for the stars!

Well like I've said before, this is my full time job. After DarkSend is done and opensourced, we'll move on to whatever the community wants. I just want to make a coin to take the 2nd spot, I think we can do it. There's not many coins with a full time dev onboard.

#2 spot! Now that's the kind of ambition I like!

eduffield is different from 99.9% of the other coins "devs".  Most are just a copy and paste, with a few changes to blow rewards and crap.  Full time job, working on it for years, DarkSend, listens to community , clearly a bloody smart guy with huge ambition.  I could go on and on.  But with eduffield, I have supreme confidence in this coin.

Just can't wait for the full DarkSend release!

Almost everybody who holds this coin has and should have confidence, but comments like "750m market cap this year are realistic" are a little exaggerated. Who seriously think that DRK will go beyond $1500. I hope noone is that delusional

I don't know. I can get pretty wacky when I open my dark wallet.

Any chance of a clock timer on the release of DarkSend? I know its probably not the best idea to do a fixed time for release, but it would be nice

haha yeah that would be very nice, but I'm sure it's too hard to pinpoint when it will be ready exactly.  I'm sure it will be released as soon as it's done!

I think we're all like raging bulls all pumped up and anxious to for the release of DarkSend, so we can burst into the ring and get promotion the hell out of this coin and it's features!

I know we can't put a date on it, but I'll be over the moon if we see it by the end of the month!

What is Evan's confidence level with the current rate of development and the previously estimated release date? If he can commit to a certain date, a countdown timer to when DS will go live and then another for code release may very well result in a boost to short term exchange rates.

By the way, does anyone know whether Armory is completing any transactions using DRK at this point?

I am not worried in the slightest about short term exchange rates and don't care about a set release date which will add pressure. I would rather Evan spend the time getting the codebase and everything right before we go live.

I don't care how many beta tests we have as long as once its released and verified by the community there are no show stoppers.

+1.  Totally agree.  Last thing anyone wants it a failed launched of DarkSend.  It's great that evan wants to get it perfect before it goes out of beta.  I'm glad I've been part of the beta testing.  

So here's the plan for development, tell me if this makes sense or not:

1.) Beta V4, V5...  - Large changes that require everyone to upgrade to use DarkSend
2.) Beyond this point, DarkSend is ready for real use and will be available in binary form (closed source still)
3.) Release Candidates - RC1, RC2, etc - I'll be taking bug reports, but these are smaller changes and none of them should require everyone to update
4.) First stable release - I think this stage should also be closed source until we're sure everything is perfect
5.) Public audits, where the closed source is shared with someone who people trust to review DarkSend (I'm not sure who that would be yet)
6.) After all audits pass and we have a real product, opensource

[coins101]

Almost everybody who holds this coin has and should have confidence, but comments like "750m market cap this year are realistic" are a little exaggerated. Who seriously think that DRK will go beyond $1500. I hope noone is that delusional

Why not?

At ~ $175 per coin 750m cap is reached at around 4.280.000 coins

This isn't unrealistic. Optimistic - yes, but not unrealistic. Given enough demand for an anonymous coin - no problems with such level and above.

Who would have thought 1-2 ago that bitcoin will be 600-700$ ?

2,5 years ago I could have started mining bitcoins having read and calculated a lot, but I ignored it as at the time it was under electricity cost on my rig. Guess how I feel now   ouch

If it hits $175 and $750m+ this year, I'll be happy to donate, through DarkSend, enough to get a weekend escort of this quality for a lucky random and randy darkcoin holder.



If anyone wants to match that, we can offer two girls for a weekend of a lifetime.

The offer also stands if the winner is a girl and wants to choose a male escort  

[Kuriso]

Here is the .conf:

,
"intensity" : "21",
"kernel" : "darkcoin",
"gpu-fan" : "60",
"no-submit-stale" : true,
"failover-only" : true,
"log" : "5",
"queue" : "0",
"kernel-path" : "/usr/local/bin"


Can't do much clean. I just delete my OC settings and do a test few minutes ago with this.
Start at 2.2, 10 min later, it drops in the exact same second to 2.0 (all 3 cards 290), the 270 remain steady.

Temp are stable under 60°

I haven't used BAMT so I'm not sure if the miner could be the problem.  Have you tried using sph-sgminer in windows?  My first thought when I seen your post is a psu issue.  The cards get fired up.  It usually takes them 5-10 mins to settle down to their regular run speed.  During this time your PSU is heating up.  By the time it hits your 10 min mark it may be getting too hot or pulling to much power.  It could be cutting some voltage.  What size psu and how many cards per psu?  I've also seen several comments about how fan auto can decrease hashrate.  I would think the auto setting would affect you from the get go though.

I have 3 290 and the motherboard on a 750w single rail PSU.
My fan is set to 60, I assume it turn the fan auto-off?

I use on my other rig 6 7970 drawing less than 720W, so I did not suspect it.

Wow 6 7970 at only 720?  The 290 can pull 250w each.  3 of them can be 750w plus the mobo and everything else.  Mining Darkcoin shouldn't use all of that but I think you could be pulling too much power.  Try running with only 1 or 2 cards and see if you get the same effect.

[anonymousxx1503]

1.) Beta V4, V5...  - Large changes that require everyone to upgrade to use DarkSend
2.) Beyond this point, DarkSend is ready for real use and will be available in binary form (closed source still)
3.) Release Candidates - RC1, RC2, etc - I'll be taking bug reports, but these are smaller changes and none of them should require everyone to update
4.) First stable release - I think this stage should also be closed source until we're sure everything is perfect
5.) Public audits, where the closed source is shared with someone who people trust to review DarkSend (I'm not sure who that would be yet)
6.) After all audits pass and we have a real product, opensource

That sounds perfectly reasonable. Hopefully Beta V4 will have very easy darksend already though.

[mattmct]

Already darkcoin forks popping up, if darkcoin wants to be a success there has to be more innovation ^^.

More innovation? You mean like the DGW, that was implemented literally a few minutes ago?

DarkCoin "forks" popping up that don't contain DGW or DarkSend....

More like Litecoin forks with scientific hashing.  

AS i sayd, i think darkcoin took a great track, but it has to sustain. There is a very good reason im here now , and its the only alt crypto i ever recognized as worth my time .

I wholeheartedly agree. This can't be the end of the innovation by any means - DRK needs to be understood as THE privacy innovation crypto, and we all need to get behind Evan on that. All these pump-dumpers complaining that "Darksend's never finished" can go hang. Any dev worth the project they're working on knows encryption features are never 100% "done". I'd love to see it to be the first cryptocoin to implement the latest developments in quantum cryptography, or something similarly newsworthy. I have no idea if that's even possible, but we need to shoot for the stars!

Well like I've said before, this is my full time job. After DarkSend is done and opensourced, we'll move on to whatever the community wants. I just want to make a coin to take the 2nd spot, I think we can do it. There's not many coins with a full time dev onboard.

#2 spot! Now that's the kind of ambition I like!

eduffield is different from 99.9% of the other coins "devs".  Most are just a copy and paste, with a few changes to blow rewards and crap.  Full time job, working on it for years, DarkSend, listens to community , clearly a bloody smart guy with huge ambition.  I could go on and on.  But with eduffield, I have supreme confidence in this coin.

Just can't wait for the full DarkSend release!

Almost everybody who holds this coin has and should have confidence, but comments like "750m market cap this year are realistic" are a little exaggerated. Who seriously think that DRK will go beyond $1500. I hope noone is that delusional

I don't know. I can get pretty wacky when I open my dark wallet.

Any chance of a clock timer on the release of DarkSend? I know its probably not the best idea to do a fixed time for release, but it would be nice

haha yeah that would be very nice, but I'm sure it's too hard to pinpoint when it will be ready exactly.  I'm sure it will be released as soon as it's done!

I think we're all like raging bulls all pumped up and anxious to for the release of DarkSend, so we can burst into the ring and get promotion the hell out of this coin and it's features!

I know we can't put a date on it, but I'll be over the moon if we see it by the end of the month!

What is Evan's confidence level with the current rate of development and the previously estimated release date? If he can commit to a certain date, a countdown timer to when DS will go live and then another for code release may very well result in a boost to short term exchange rates.

By the way, does anyone know whether Armory is completing any transactions using DRK at this point?

I am not worried in the slightest about short term exchange rates and don't care about a set release date which will add pressure. I would rather Evan spend the time getting the codebase and everything right before we go live.

I don't care how many beta tests we have as long as once its released and verified by the community there are no show stoppers.

+1.  Totally agree.  Last thing anyone wants it a failed launched of DarkSend.  It's great that evan wants to get it perfect before it goes out of beta.  I'm glad I've been part of the beta testing.  

So here's the plan for development, tell me if this makes sense or not:

1.) Beta V4, V5...  - Large changes that require everyone to upgrade to use DarkSend
2.) Beyond this point, DarkSend is ready for real use and will be available in binary form (closed source still)
3.) Release Candidates - RC1, RC2, etc - I'll be taking bug reports, but these are smaller changes and none of them should require everyone to update
4.) First stable release - I think this stage should also be closed source until we're sure everything is perfect
5.) Public audits, where the closed source is shared with someone who people trust to review DarkSend (I'm not sure who that would be yet)
6.) After all audits pass and we have a real product, opensource

Many thanks for chiming in and letting us know your plans. Who am I to say,...but that looks great to me, and a very smart way to do things.  I can't wait for the RC's!

Much appreciated, cheers!

[HammerHedd]

So here's the plan for development, tell me if this makes sense or not:

1.) Beta V4, V5...  - Large changes that require everyone to upgrade to use DarkSend
2.) Beyond this point, DarkSend is ready for real use and will be available in binary form (closed source still)
3.) Release Candidates - RC1, RC2, etc - I'll be taking bug reports, but these are smaller changes and none of them should require everyone to update
4.) First stable release - I think this stage should also be closed source until we're sure everything is perfect
5.) Public audits, where the closed source is shared with someone who people trust to review DarkSend (I'm not sure who that would be yet)
6.) After all audits pass and we have a real product, opensource

That sounds good... How many more betas do you think? Is there anything we (I mean everyone else, you are the busy one!) can do to help out in the meantime?

[HammerHedd]

Almost everybody who holds this coin has and should have confidence, but comments like "750m market cap this year are realistic" are a little exaggerated. Who seriously think that DRK will go beyond $1500. I hope noone is that delusional

Why not?

At ~ $175 per coin 750m cap is reached at around 4.280.000 coins

This isn't unrealistic. Optimistic - yes, but not unrealistic. Given enough demand for an anonymous coin - no problems with such level and above.

Who would have thought 1-2 ago that bitcoin will be 600-700$ ?

2,5 years ago I could have started mining bitcoins having read and calculated a lot, but I ignored it as at the time it was under electricity cost on my rig. Guess how I feel now   ouch

If it hits $175 and $750m+ this year, I'll be happy to donate, through DarkSend, enough to get a weekend escort of this quality for a lucky random and randy darkcoin holder.



If anyone wants to match that, we can offer two girls for a weekend of a lifetime.

The offer also stands if the winner is a girl and wants to choose a male escort  

Ha, we all wish we had that kind of coin...

Nice that she accepts DRK, tho. Mobile Wallet?

[AlexGR]

What's hapen if a multipool mine at 271 for 1 block. then stop mining the next one  who go to 350. Then mine the next who down to 272 ?

Its possible that ? or DGW prevent that ?

KGW/DGW are slightly irrelevant in the multipool issue as multipools shift between scrypt clones rather than x11 algorithm coins.

[chaeplin]

What the heck is going on with the price of DRK?

one point is distributing the hash-power of the miner
1. drk.coinmine.pl with 4 Gh/s -> 40 %
2. dark.suchpool.pw with 2.8 Gh/s -> 30 %
3. drkpool.com with 0.6 Gh/s -> 6 %
4. lotterymining.com with 0.6 Gh/s -> 6 %
5. p2p-pool with 0.25 Gh/s -> 2.5 %

it would be optimal to have 4 big pools with 20 % (now 2 Gh/s) - when 1 of the 4 pools is down then the other 3 have each 30  %
when you are an investor in this DRK and you realize that the network is not safe - you will not invest in it!

please distribute your hashrate wisely!

any updates on this?

420 /home/user/blocks/blocks

NEWBL 03-17 14:03:57 34942 274.658 XdgnL33mHN2byuauHqJQHAsa3s8sYakSrF
NEWBL 03-18 07:30:24 35361 403.438 XccPicDbg7HhRfFwPU3Z2CFVpHSYAhuxtu

1 XcPvAEAT1gjAsjYiv5H72o8NZWHVP8FmE1
1 XhY93biyJxPa9hpAh32TuxSfmqQ3tVN34o
1 XiBUuewzT7kpHx5JsmgEkxFWYNvvf1w1jZ
1 XiJ3yWMgSjDzxjF6F1Kxyd9pj9tTpokZxS
1 XkqySpC9SL63brWM9Km6pKiaqgqJuhhpVX
1 Xq5u6air9BuzegJfvnNsZbFkb45nBrWWGa
1 XyaqQAVxbo73WW6YpzNtBP18xo4RCHoX6E
2 Xyu2chJSBKmqdMtyaBS2y8CSqx5mVf2FDG

9 cpupool
10 p2pool
17 lotterymining
23 official
43 mininghub
98 suchpool
211 coinmine

[DieCommieScum]

1.) Beta V4, V5...  - Large changes that require everyone to upgrade to use DarkSend
2.) Beyond this point, DarkSend is ready for real use and will be available in binary form (closed source still)
3.) Release Candidates - RC1, RC2, etc - I'll be taking bug reports, but these are smaller changes and none of them should require everyone to update
4.) First stable release - I think this stage should also be closed source until we're sure everything is perfect
5.) Public audits, where the closed source is shared with someone who people trust to review DarkSend (I'm not sure who that would be yet)
6.) After all audits pass and we have a real product, opensource

I think the audit should be that its opensourced after the last planned Beta, that should find any low-hanging fruit pretty quickly and would allow for yet one more beta to address those. Then a proper audit can be crowd sourced if the market desires it, like TrueCrypt.