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May 26, 2014, 10:26:02 PM
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LOL - this shitcoin is getting the end it deserves.

This is why you should never trust a fucking VB coder. Cryptographers are academics, and they have to be supported by developers who know what they're doing. A one-man-band that can't decide whether he's a developer or a "finance" guy is clearly not suited to cryptography.

The "fucking VB coder" put anonymity on the map of cryptocurrencies and is changing the landscape of crypto. You know why? Because those who can, do. And those who can't => teach. (these are the academics btw). He started a project that was, for all intents and purposes, quite difficult and yet he's pulling ahead on his own, when other coins have 3-10 people "dev teams" who code nothing. I ask these fantastic dev teams on their threads "oh you have a fantastic dev / dev team... right... so what have these fantastic devs coded?" The answer is nothing.

Is Evan the next satoshi? No. Is he the best coder in town? No. Is he the best cryptographer? No. Does he have the paranoia that is REQUIRED to be in this business? No. He's quite aloof in that right, just coding his stuff and not giving a fuck. Does he appear more sloppy than your average coder? Perhaps, but sloppiness is a function of time and stress:

1. Time: People see stuff like version numbers, thread titles or OP not having the right info etc and are rightly upset, but a one-man-show fails due to the constraints of time when trying to handle more than is possible.

2. Stress: I could tell the possibility for an "accident" was quite elevated because my mind's pattern recognition spotted a lot of syntax and context errors in some of his latest messages which would indicate that he was stressed a lot and had fragmented attention. But the error doesn't appear to have come from that, as the code was already running on testnet, so without bugs appearing there the coder doesn't have issues to fix.

The coin got the attention earlier than DarkSend's final launch and hence a lot of pressure to deliver when it's still in development. This has elevated the stress levels due to the press spotlight and contacts, due to pm's, due to emails, due to the coding that must be done for the next phase, due to the monitoring and communication with the community in irc, bitcointalk, darkcointalk, due to the time that it is required to run a pool / answer tickets, and then he also has a personal life that he probably doesn't really enjoy right now due to all the attention. He also has to protect himself from future government invasion, planning contingencies.

Of course he knows that all this is not without a reward (his DRKs value are directly related to his work) so he deals with it but he'll need assistance. If you are slightly paranoid on the project you must select your assistants carefully or you'll have an issue, so "centralization" of responsibilities until you find someone that can assist is of real importance. Hiring extra staff or coders (which he knows and trusts) would probably not be a bad idea, not in coding the main code, but assisting in peripherals or future ideas perhaps. Yet, given that he is "the man" in charge, a lot will still go through him.

All this pressure is actually not necessary if the development time span is spread over a longer duration, but it's all about the fucking pressure due to coinmarketcap #3.

Don't waist your time. Some people lost the train and can't move on.
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May 26, 2014, 10:26:31 PM
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The windows binary on https://www.darkcoin.io/getstarted.html is the updated version, 0.9.4.11

Has anyone got it to fully sync and match with http://explorer.darkcoin.io/chain/DarkCoin ?

Mine is still (slowly) syncing 14 weeks left
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May 26, 2014, 10:26:36 PM
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May 26, 2014, 10:27:55 PM
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LOL - this shitcoin is getting the end it deserves.

This is why you should never trust a fucking VB coder. Cryptographers are academics, and they have to be supported by developers who know what they're doing. A one-man-band that can't decide whether he's a developer or a "finance" guy is clearly not suited to cryptography.

The "fucking VB coder" put anonymity on the map of cryptocurrencies and is changing the landscape of crypto. You know why? Because those who can, do. And those who can't => teach. (these are the academics btw). He started a project that was, for all intents and purposes, quite difficult and yet he's pulling ahead on his own, when other coins have 3-10 people "dev teams" who code nothing. I ask these fantastic dev teams on their threads "oh you have a fantastic dev / dev team... right... so what have these fantastic devs coded?" The answer is nothing.

Is Evan the next satoshi? No. Is he the best coder in town? No. Is he the best cryptographer? No. Does he have the paranoia that is REQUIRED to be in this business? No. He's quite aloof in that right, just coding his stuff and not giving a fuck. Does he appear more sloppy than your average coder? Perhaps, but sloppiness is a function of time and stress:

1. Time: People see stuff like version numbers, thread titles or OP not having the right info etc and are rightly upset, but a one-man-show fails due to the constraints of time when trying to handle more than is possible.

2. Stress: I could tell the possibility for an "accident" was quite elevated because my mind's pattern recognition spotted a lot of syntax and context errors in some of his latest messages which would indicate that he was stressed a lot and had fragmented attention. But the error doesn't appear to have come from that, as the code was already running on testnet, so without bugs appearing there the coder doesn't have issues to fix.

The coin got the attention earlier than DarkSend's final launch and hence a lot of pressure to deliver when it's still in development. This has elevated the stress levels due to the press spotlight and contacts, due to pm's, due to emails, due to the coding that must be done for the next phase, due to the monitoring and communication with the community in irc, bitcointalk, darkcointalk, due to the time that it is required to run a pool / answer tickets, and then he also has a personal life that he probably doesn't really enjoy right now due to all the attention. He also has to protect himself from future government invasion, planning contingencies.

Of course he knows that all this is not without a reward (his DRKs value are directly related to his work) so he deals with it but he'll need assistance. If you are slightly paranoid on the project you must select your assistants carefully or you'll have an issue, so "centralization" of responsibilities until you find someone that can assist is of real importance. Hiring extra staff or coders (which he knows and trusts) would probably not be a bad idea, not in coding the main code, but assisting in peripherals or future ideas perhaps. Yet, given that he is "the man" in charge, a lot will still go through him.

All this pressure is actually not necessary if the development time span is spread over a longer duration, but it's all about the fucking pressure due to coinmarketcap #3.

I said the same thing several pages back... Sadly, the shaved apes don't read... There's really nothing more to do at this point but watch TV and wait... The blood letting is pretty much over. The weak hands have fallen, the buy-ups are on hold... It's all recoil from here, no more action. I'm not even going to bother installing a new client or checking the price until next weekend because it's all nonsense right now. To which I contributed my fair share. ;-)

Frankly, the thread had attracted way too many shittraders the last week and a half. I'm glad this happened, shook the monkeys out of the tree. Hopefully, they won't be back. It's sad, really... For every shitcoin, there's a shittier pack of traders... We might say "X is a shitcoin." But the shit people don't stay in the shit coins... Locusts don't care if you're growing a good idea or not. Good riddance.

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May 26, 2014, 10:28:15 PM
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When this coin reaches $80 per coin in a few weeks, what will those Trolls/Liars/Spammers/Scammers, say?

Remind them of that sentence when the $80 price approaches, thanks.  


yea no $80 is unrealistic.. then i would be fking rich  Cheesy theres no way i would have THAT success in my life  Wink

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May 26, 2014, 10:29:41 PM
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The windows binary on https://www.darkcoin.io/getstarted.html is the updated version, 0.9.4.11

Has anyone got it to fully sync and match with http://explorer.darkcoin.io/chain/DarkCoin ?

Mine is still (slowly) syncing 14 weeks left

It looks like the http://explorer.darkcoin.io/chain/DarkCoin is stuck on 75202.  These are the blocks I see on the end of the chain:

75200 000000000013c3dadc5b39ea7c6f0f1e4d14cb35ba597e790e51999287b6c9ee
75201 00000000000e1624603fdb080fce25140bde67f959c67abbc87c2f827ecbc975
75202 0000000000007fc30ee7ddf106d82a80f4bdb80d189fb8ec8a80821860bba656
75203 00000000001086a2dc3911e7e8553934892c74b2034c09d17bc57bcc3477eb24
75204 00000000000a62c1fc5bc1514b45ae9d2affc528dfd2dfda0189510be90f217c
75205 00000000001fdac7753bf43d92dd52f6b22e91e9afe4b65c8f3079c487dce33f
75206 00000000001769fb9e5e8f9d9577be022d87262b2d1903d4916cb6bd8b88723a
75207 0000000000034bb26fe641000f43105ad7dfa5f3b5e314a32d02d18bc905dfb4
75208 0000000000112ee7123f0ce6855c4dd8bdf7b5823a8715e44a8fd6c9156bb08b
75209 00000000000262806b1ad744f54e2cb656b4c9e7235563295379ae68f832ecd0
75210 000000000007f092279821951a969be238572abfb1bd64551b5f4d3c0743be0b
75211 000000000005b985040571bc59bf829b703f11f0fcf660560fa4f270c28a71e6
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May 26, 2014, 10:31:08 PM
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What I'm trying to say
When I saw the 0.028 of the time
Why should I choose to sell for 0.016?
It should have a process, developers still, right here.
Now is the official version?
Is? Is?
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May 26, 2014, 10:31:44 PM
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Yes. Blockexplorer stuck. Almost all pools on 75214 block now

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May 26, 2014, 10:31:52 PM
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The windows binary on https://www.darkcoin.io/getstarted.html is the updated version, 0.9.4.11

Has anyone got it to fully sync and match with http://explorer.darkcoin.io/chain/DarkCoin ?

Mine is still (slowly) syncing 14 weeks left
Mine stuck at 75125 with 3 hours left
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May 26, 2014, 10:31:59 PM
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The windows binary on https://www.darkcoin.io/getstarted.html is the updated version, 0.9.4.11

Has anyone got it to fully sync and match with http://explorer.darkcoin.io/chain/DarkCoin ?

Mine is still (slowly) syncing 14 weeks left

It looks like the http://explorer.darkcoin.io/chain/DarkCoin is stuck on 75202.  These are the blocks I see on the end of the chain:

75200 000000000013c3dadc5b39ea7c6f0f1e4d14cb35ba597e790e51999287b6c9ee
75201 00000000000e1624603fdb080fce25140bde67f959c67abbc87c2f827ecbc975
75202 0000000000007fc30ee7ddf106d82a80f4bdb80d189fb8ec8a80821860bba656
75203 00000000001086a2dc3911e7e8553934892c74b2034c09d17bc57bcc3477eb24
75204 00000000000a62c1fc5bc1514b45ae9d2affc528dfd2dfda0189510be90f217c
75205 00000000001fdac7753bf43d92dd52f6b22e91e9afe4b65c8f3079c487dce33f
75206 00000000001769fb9e5e8f9d9577be022d87262b2d1903d4916cb6bd8b88723a
75207 0000000000034bb26fe641000f43105ad7dfa5f3b5e314a32d02d18bc905dfb4
75208 0000000000112ee7123f0ce6855c4dd8bdf7b5823a8715e44a8fd6c9156bb08b
75209 00000000000262806b1ad744f54e2cb656b4c9e7235563295379ae68f832ecd0
75210 000000000007f092279821951a969be238572abfb1bd64551b5f4d3c0743be0b
75211 000000000005b985040571bc59bf829b703f11f0fcf660560fa4f270c28a71e6


Seems like it stuck. But dev will choose drkpool.com's block chain as main.

drkpool.com's block chain is at 75213 now.

Sadly, http://drk.poolhash.org/poolhash.html seems like not updated to latest version yet.

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May 26, 2014, 10:32:04 PM
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When this coin reaches $80 per coin in a few weeks, what will those Trolls/Liars/Spammers/Scammers, say?

Remind them of that sentence when the $80 price approaches, thanks.  


yea no $80 is unrealistic.. then i would be fking rich  Cheesy theres no way i would have THAT success in my life  Wink

and probably never will thinking like that  Tongue
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May 26, 2014, 10:32:12 PM
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Whats the consensus? When MP reopens do we sell and buy lower or will it rise on opening? FYI I'm a big believer in this coin and Im in it for the long haul.
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May 26, 2014, 10:32:44 PM
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Bookmark this page:

When this coin reaches $80 per coin in a few weeks, what will those Trolls/Liars/Spammers/Scammers, say?

Remind them of that sentence when the $80 price approaches, thanks.  


yea no $80 is unrealistic.. then i would be fking rich  Cheesy theres no way i would have THAT success in my life  Wink

Rich is having $1million+ which hardly anyone would achieve since DRK is distrusted pretty damn well(check the richlist), and I for one wouldn't sell until the price hits $300+

But bookmark the page like I told you, price will be reaching new highs.

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May 26, 2014, 10:33:10 PM
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May 26, 2014, 10:33:31 PM
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The windows binary on https://www.darkcoin.io/getstarted.html is the updated version, 0.9.4.11

Has anyone got it to fully sync and match with http://explorer.darkcoin.io/chain/DarkCoin ?

Mine is still (slowly) syncing 14 weeks left

It looks like the http://explorer.darkcoin.io/chain/DarkCoin is stuck on 75202.  These are the blocks I see on the end of the chain:

75200 000000000013c3dadc5b39ea7c6f0f1e4d14cb35ba597e790e51999287b6c9ee
75201 00000000000e1624603fdb080fce25140bde67f959c67abbc87c2f827ecbc975
75202 0000000000007fc30ee7ddf106d82a80f4bdb80d189fb8ec8a80821860bba656
75203 00000000001086a2dc3911e7e8553934892c74b2034c09d17bc57bcc3477eb24
75204 00000000000a62c1fc5bc1514b45ae9d2affc528dfd2dfda0189510be90f217c
75205 00000000001fdac7753bf43d92dd52f6b22e91e9afe4b65c8f3079c487dce33f
75206 00000000001769fb9e5e8f9d9577be022d87262b2d1903d4916cb6bd8b88723a
75207 0000000000034bb26fe641000f43105ad7dfa5f3b5e314a32d02d18bc905dfb4
75208 0000000000112ee7123f0ce6855c4dd8bdf7b5823a8715e44a8fd6c9156bb08b
75209 00000000000262806b1ad744f54e2cb656b4c9e7235563295379ae68f832ecd0
75210 000000000007f092279821951a969be238572abfb1bd64551b5f4d3c0743be0b
75211 000000000005b985040571bc59bf829b703f11f0fcf660560fa4f270c28a71e6


same for me, so it's the explorer that seems to be stuck
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May 26, 2014, 10:33:57 PM
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What I'm trying to say
When I saw the 0.028 of the time
Why should I choose to sell for 0.016?
It should have a process, developers still, right here.
Now is the official version?
Is? Is?
All pump was due new future, master nodes and anonymous payments.
Now, it shows what this future is not working in real world and turned off now.

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My take on Darkcoin and Bitcoin

Ok...

Darkcoin

SUCH COLORS!

I've also researched Darkcoin very well and even though there was a issue with many coins being mined because of an accident with the block rewards, it's safe to say that 99% of those coins mined by early miners, were sold early, I have examples below.


I looked below, you've provided neither evidence nor anything other than your claim. The reality is that the block reward for ~3250 blocks was 500 Darkcoin - 100 times its current rate! Not only that, but the stupid fucking block reward algorithm is fundamentally broken - as long as difficulty stays above 3399 it'll be less than 5 (the minimum), so flat block reward forever. This is incredibly stupid. A fuck-ton of coins are out there, thanks to Evan's utter retardation, and now the block reward is just going to stay the same forever.


1) Darkcoin is the first x11 algorithm coin, it is very ASIC resistant and allows GPU mining, to stop botnet farms from controlling the coin

So multipools should control it instead? Also, since you're such a clever cryptographer, please can you explain the relevance and quantify the resistance of this so-called X11 algorithm? State facts, not your gut feeling, you stupid fuckhead.

2) Darkcoin is the first DGW coin, or Dark Gravity Wave coin

Nobody cares about sales pitch. FACTS, not your fucktarded opinion.

3) Darkcoin is the first coin to have the Masternode Process built in. Masternodes serve as an incentive to uphold the network as well as get paid 10% of the coins mined every block, and they allow anonymous transactions to happen, similar to how TOR works(TOR is 100% anonymous)

Wow - holy fuck the level of ignorance here is mind-blowing. TOR pays exit nodes NOTHING. The barrier to entry is NOTHING. Therefore, the "100% anonymous" (which it's not, you utter clutz) aspect comes from ordinary nerds freely providing exit nodes...FOR FREE. Darkcoin restricts the ability to run a masternode, thus providing incentive for the US Government to control them. Welcome to a currency written by a fucking retard who can't code.

4) Darkcoin's Darksend ability gives you the Option to anonymously send your coins, you can either send coins regulary or Anonymously, which gives a lot of freedom for an anonymous coin and is not an option for Cryptonote coins

Holy fucktales, Batman. This is the stupidest shit right here. Every CryptoNote coin is anonymous by default, and higher mix-in values per transaction gives more plausible deniability (but NOT more anonymity, because Monero and other CN coins are already anonymous by design, you utter cunt).

5) Darkcoin has one of the most Devoted and Competent Dev's in the Crypto World, he has proven time and time again to be fully able to providing Darkcoin with the best updates and advances, and soon enough would be comparable to Satoshi himself[/b]

AHHA HAHA AHHA AHAH AH AHAH AH. He has ZERO cryptography knowledge. Fucking. Zero. Please don't pretend that Evan the Fucktard knows anything more than a smattering of copy-paste coding.

Bitcoin

Yay. Red colours because BITCOIN BAD MMMMKAY.

1) Private Companies would never use Bitcoin

Why? How would anyone know they have an address (or addresses) under their control?

2) Individuals who want privacy would never use Bitcoin

They already do. Welcome to 2014, moron.

3) High Net Worth people/clients would never use Bitcoin

That Richard Branson sure is poor. How stupid do you want to look, fucktard?

4) Celebrities would never use Bitcoin

Celebrities don't use cash or bank accounts either. They have financial managers who do it for them.

5) Government branches would never use Bitcoin

Government branches already use a multitude of currencies. In addition, we already know about the FBI's seized Silk Road coins, it remains to be seen what they will do with them. Please stfu and die right about now.

6) Practically anyone or anything, that values privacy would never use Bitcoin[/b]

Please explain how a "thing" would choose to use (or not use) Bitcoin. More ignorant stupidity from the Darkcoin peanut gallery.

1) Private Companies would never use Bitcoin, because that would risk having competitors know all their transaction info and using it against them, hence why Bitcoin has never gained a foothold on companies

OMG NOWAYZ. Because there is NO WAY for them to get this info through mandatory filings, paying off bookkeepers, and so on. You think you've got novel ideas? You don't. You're just an ignorant fuckface.

2) Individuals who want privacy would never use Bitcoin because using it is like having everyone around you know you're bank statements, credit card info, practically every purchase you ever made and everything you ever recieved, which is very scary.

The only thing very scary about this statement is the level of stupidity coming from you. If you literally took a gun and shot yourself in the face the world would be a better place.

3) High Net Worth clients/people would never use Bitcoin because that would ruin their chances of getting/maintaining the upperhand in whatever field their in. Ex: Warren Buffet buys 400 shares of Conzartop LLC which recently made a cure for cancer using Bitcoin, his competitor Ran Tuffet sees this on the blockchain and plan to sabotage/lower Conzartop shares on the stock market to make Warren Buffet lose out big, or they simply copy him and buy shares with Conzatop, effetively making money by doing nothing but copying Warren Buffet.

Except pretty much all of Warren Buffet's trades are public. People make a decent living from copying his investments. Congratu-fucking-lations on discovering life and all it entails. Maybe next you'll wow us with your ability to discover pedestrian crossings and you'll get killed.

4) Celebrities would never use Bitcoin because their address can be traced back to them, and that would be a huge problem, considering they're stalked by the paparazzi and others every single day

L.O.L. Because they can't just change their address. And because knowing their address means anything other than seeing where they send money (assuming no stealh addresses).

5) Government branches would never use Bitcoin because that would be just about the stupidest thing they could do, it would risk their enemies knowing every single transaction they make and would make spying on each other much much easier.

And then we turned 11 and realised we didn't know what we thought we knew.
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May 26, 2014, 10:34:30 PM
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Darkcoin Mining Pool Hub

http://darkcoin.miningpoolhub.com


We are on the right block chain. Same as official drkpool.
Come and mine together!

Mining Pool Hub - https://miningpoolhub.com
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May 26, 2014, 10:35:59 PM
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Getting so much attention
You watch this shit skyrocket once it returns, I have my buying finger ready

Trade crypto? Check out Quatloo Trader - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=711966.0
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May 26, 2014, 10:36:25 PM
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Whats the consensus? When MP reopens do we sell and buy lower or will it rise on opening? FYI I'm a big believer in this coin and Im in it for the long haul.


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