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[thelonecrouton]

MN count is now 522. ROI is around 40% over 12 months.

I used this command and found 454 with a status of : 1.

darkcoind masternode list | grep "\: 1" | wc -l

Yep, I get 455 as of right now.

[Ozziecoin]

MN count is now 522. ROI is around 40% over 12 months.

I used this command and found 454 with a status of : 1.

darkcoind masternode list | grep "\: 1" | wc -l

I picked up 522 via Masternode Count command in console, which seems to have picked up inactive MNs.

[dewdeded]

I think it is dishonest and misleading to calculate and announce an 12 months ROI.

MN payments work since 3 days?!!? Its brand new tech, there is no experienced data.
So many things can and will change even in the next 12 weeks.

Chances that your calculated number will be correct is soooo low, that it shouldn't be advertisted with.

[thunderdrum]

The MNs I'm looking after has payment variance of 2 to 8 Drks. All have been paid. I think generating a new MN privkey is sufficient. Changing the IP seemed to have no extra effect for me. Hope that helps someone.

Sadly, no.

We're going on 96 hours now with no payments on my MN. I understand variance, but I'm beginning to lose faith here. Even under the most optimistic projections (500 nodes and only 50% paid blocks) we're looking at (1 - ((499/500)^(298*4))) = 91.96% chance of my node having been paid. <--This is actually overly "optimistic" since the first few days we were around 280, 350, and 420 MNs.

I show up on all the lists, including the all-important "darkcoind masternode list | GREP (IP)" (with a :1). I regenerated my masternodeprivkey about 24 hours in, so that's done. Still nothing.

I hope that in a few days devs will look at this and check for bugs as opposed to just saying "it's variance, don't worry about it." I mean, if it is broken by some chance, we need to get it fixed before shit goes "live" in enforcement mode.

I'm still waiting, trying to reserve judgement. Obviously I have great faith in the devs or I wouldn't be "all in" on DRK. Just want to make sure a) there is no problem and b) if there is a problem it gets fixed.

Take it easy. i still have about 30% of my MN unpaid till now. I've done changing Privkey/wallet/IP in several ways. But that "bad lucky one" still get no paid. Meanwhile, the others are getting paid several times. (I've done my operation to them also). So i think it's just a matter of time to get paid. Just make sure your MN showed in the result by executing this command in your MN  :

darkcoin masternode list | grep <your ip address>
(for example: darkcoin masternode list | grep 123.123.123.123 )


if it shows ip:1 then your MN is ok. Take it easy and do what you should do in life. May the surprise be surprise.

[chaeplin]

@ splawik21 + CryptoPleb: Trust your daemon.

My most-frequently payed masternode has been greyed out on chaeplins site for two days, recieving payments just fine. Have a look at https://elbzo.net/masternodes.html all mine are shown active there.

I have added one 10.11.5 server as sv06 which is testnet NOMP, and have changed version of sv03 from 9.11.5 to 10.11.5.

https://elbzo.net/masternodes.htm use 10.11.5 for drkmn01 ~ drkmn08 and 9.11.5 for p2pool.

[ddink7]

The MNs I'm looking after has payment variance of 2 to 8 Drks. All have been paid. I think generating a new MN privkey is sufficient. Changing the IP seemed to have no extra effect for me. Hope that helps someone.

Sadly, no.

We're going on 96 hours now with no payments on my MN. I understand variance, but I'm beginning to lose faith here. Even under the most optimistic projections (500 nodes and only 50% paid blocks) we're looking at (1 - ((499/500)^(298*4))) = 91.96% chance of my node having been paid. <--This is actually overly "optimistic" since the first few days we were around 280, 350, and 420 MNs.

I show up on all the lists, including the all-important "darkcoind masternode list | GREP (IP)" (with a :1). I regenerated my masternodeprivkey about 24 hours in, so that's done. Still nothing.

I hope that in a few days devs will look at this and check for bugs as opposed to just saying "it's variance, don't worry about it." I mean, if it is broken by some chance, we need to get it fixed before shit goes "live" in enforcement mode.

I'm still waiting, trying to reserve judgement. Obviously I have great faith in the devs or I wouldn't be "all in" on DRK. Just want to make sure a) there is no problem and b) if there is a problem it gets fixed.

Take it easy. i still have about 30% of my MN unpaid till now. I've done changing Privkey/wallet/IP in several ways. But that "bad lucky one" still get no paid. Meanwhile, the others are getting paid several times. (I've done my operation to them also). So i think it's just a matter of time to get paid. Just make sure your MN showed in the result by executing this command in your MN  :

darkcoin masternode list | grep <your ip address>
(for example: darkcoin masternode list | grep 123.123.123.123 )


if it shows ip:1 then your MN is ok. Take it easy and do what you should do in life. May the surprise be surprise.

Assuming everything is working as intended, you are correct. At this point my concern is that there may be a bug in voting. At least one MN has been paid FOURTEEN TIMES (XwSPJo3v4253WqS7kRFm7Huo3gDojRWuev). I mean there's "variance" and there's "winning the lotto."

[thelonecrouton]

@ splawik21 + CryptoPleb: Trust your daemon.

My most-frequently payed masternode has been greyed out on chaeplins site for two days, recieving payments just fine. Have a look at https://elbzo.net/masternodes.html all mine are shown active there.

I have added one 10.11.5 server as sv06 which is testnet NOMP, and have changed version of sv03 from 9.11.5 to 10.11.5.

https://elbzo.net/masternodes.htm use 10.11.5 for drkmn01 ~ drkmn08 and 9.11.5 for p2pool.

My MN that has been greyed out is now showing green on sv03.

[Ozziecoin]

Assuming everything is working as intended, you are correct. At this point my concern is that there may be a bug in voting. At least one MN has been paid FOURTEEN TIMES (XwSPJo3v4253WqS7kRFm7Huo3gDojRWuev). I mean there's "variance" and there's "winning the lotto."

Nice!  

[thelonecrouton]

Assuming everything is working as intended, you are correct. At this point my concern is that there may be a bug in voting. At least one MN has been paid FOURTEEN TIMES (XwSPJo3v4253WqS7kRFm7Huo3gDojRWuev). I mean there's "variance" and there's "winning the lotto."

Still too early to worry about variance. I stand at 2,4,0,9

More worried about the percentage of unpaid blocks, which if anything is getting worse. Roll on enforcement!

[Ozziecoin]

@ splawik21 + CryptoPleb: Trust your daemon.

My most-frequently payed masternode has been greyed out on chaeplins site for two days, recieving payments just fine. Have a look at https://elbzo.net/masternodes.html all mine are shown active there.

I have added one 10.11.5 server as sv06 which is testnet NOMP, and have changed version of sv03 from 9.11.5 to 10.11.5.

https://elbzo.net/masternodes.htm use 10.11.5 for drkmn01 ~ drkmn08 and 9.11.5 for p2pool.

Looks like there is variance in MN status between 9.11.5 and 10.11.5:



Could indicate that voting system will differ between the two wallets.

[thunderdrum]

The MNs I'm looking after has payment variance of 2 to 8 Drks. All have been paid. I think generating a new MN privkey is sufficient. Changing the IP seemed to have no extra effect for me. Hope that helps someone.

Sadly, no.

We're going on 96 hours now with no payments on my MN. I understand variance, but I'm beginning to lose faith here. Even under the most optimistic projections (500 nodes and only 50% paid blocks) we're looking at (1 - ((499/500)^(298*4))) = 91.96% chance of my node having been paid. <--This is actually overly "optimistic" since the first few days we were around 280, 350, and 420 MNs.

I show up on all the lists, including the all-important "darkcoind masternode list | GREP (IP)" (with a :1). I regenerated my masternodeprivkey about 24 hours in, so that's done. Still nothing.

I hope that in a few days devs will look at this and check for bugs as opposed to just saying "it's variance, don't worry about it." I mean, if it is broken by some chance, we need to get it fixed before shit goes "live" in enforcement mode.

I'm still waiting, trying to reserve judgement. Obviously I have great faith in the devs or I wouldn't be "all in" on DRK. Just want to make sure a) there is no problem and b) if there is a problem it gets fixed.

Take it easy. i still have about 30% of my MN unpaid till now. I've done changing Privkey/wallet/IP in several ways. But that "bad lucky one" still get no paid. Meanwhile, the others are getting paid several times. (I've done my operation to them also). So i think it's just a matter of time to get paid. Just make sure your MN showed in the result by executing this command in your MN  :

darkcoin masternode list | grep <your ip address>
(for example: darkcoin masternode list | grep 123.123.123.123 )


if it shows ip:1 then your MN is ok. Take it easy and do what you should do in life. May the surprise be surprise.

Assuming everything is working as intended, you are correct. At this point my concern is that there may be a bug in voting. At least one MN has been paid FOURTEEN TIMES (XwSPJo3v4253WqS7kRFm7Huo3gDojRWuev). I mean there's "variance" and there's "winning the lotto."

I understand you. and yes, there may be some aspect that we don't know yet. That's what i'm expecting to see then.

BTW: one of my "bad luck MN" got paid just then, which take another day since the change operated. And i don't notice until now
tx: 76c1f63217adfc0f57df443253ed94aaad809a39faf910fb3f159cee8fc82b15

hope yours soon. 

[CryptoPleb]

80 hours and no payment. I should have sold my 1k 4 days ago to buy back in now. Would have made a couple hundred drk 
Im sure it will all work out, I need to get busy to stop watching it.

[camosoul]

I'm still unlisted at darkcoin.io.  Is there anything I can do?  I just rebuilt that one with a new IP new MN address, new private key, etc... last night.  Everyone else sees me but darkcoin.io   Why would that be?  I'm on 10.11.5

I would choose not to care about it.

There are clearly discrepancies in how these crutch services analyze the data. They are not authoritative. They are not a substitute for actual, useful data. Grep your debug.log for your MN's IP and if it shows :1 then you are just waiting for the monkey-wrenched randomizer that is the current state of the MN network to accidentally pay you. It could take longer than pure probability math would otherwise suggest because the block that should have paid you might be issued by a non-paying bad actor pool.

Think of it like snobs. They might not consider you a valid human being based on lunatic criteria. So you're not on their list. Big whoop.

If it goes past 2 weeks I'd raise an eyebrow. Prior to that, I'd call it normal considering the dirty environment.

Thanks for this. Also, does having Port Check open or closed here https://elbzo.net/masternodes.html changes anything?

As an operator of a machine attached to the Internet, much less a masternode, you should not be relying on anyone but yourself to determine if port 9999 is open of not. Is their system for testing accurate? Are they lying? Does that site work? Obviously something is amiss because different MN monitor sites have different answers... Hell, bust out your smart phone, shut off the wifi, when you're on cellular, portscan your MN's IP for yourself...

But, don't you know what your own firewall is doing? I sure hope that's a cold wallet...

I strongly recommend more education...

[camosoul]

The MNs I'm looking after has payment variance of 2 to 8 Drks. All have been paid. I think generating a new MN privkey is sufficient. Changing the IP seemed to have no extra effect for me. Hope that helps someone.

Sadly, no.

We're going on 96 hours now with no payments on my MN. I understand variance, but I'm beginning to lose faith here. Even under the most optimistic projections (500 nodes and only 50% paid blocks) we're looking at (1 - ((499/500)^(298*4))) = 91.96% chance of my node having been paid.

NO! PAY ATTENTION!

It is entirely possible, even probable and likely, that the block that would have paid you was issued by a pool that is not performing payments. The block that had your name on it might have paid you if it came from a legitimate pool.

The point being, the block that paid you was probably found, and you would have gotten paid; but there are still enough bad actors on the network that even thought the probability says you'd get paid, that block was issued by an entity that is refusing to comply and keeping the coin for itself instead of paying you like it should have.

Due to the density of bad actors still on the network, it could be as long as 2 weeks before you get paid becasue if you're exceptionally unlucky, plus that block pops out of a non-paying pool, even when you do get voted lucky, you're still not getting paid because the pool kept it for itself instead of paying you.

How many times do I have to explain this shit! It's not that fucking hard to understand...

You probably have been voted a payment. But a shitpool stole it instead of giving it to you. Spork. Enforcement OFF. Why is nobody reading this stuff? I'm not even running an MN yet and I have done my homework.. Hell, it's not even homework, just open eyes, face forward... There's some crotchety old woman set to be cloned without her knowledge who's got it all figured out...

0.9 and 0.10 might also be picking and choosing differently... That's the whole fucking point of testing this code on livenet... Testnet is too sterile to see the problems. With Spork Tehcnology, we can see the problems without borking the coin on failforks... Has this not been repeatedly explained for pages and pages on multiple forums?

[chaeplin]

@ splawik21 + CryptoPleb: Trust your daemon.

My most-frequently payed masternode has been greyed out on chaeplins site for two days, recieving payments just fine. Have a look at https://elbzo.net/masternodes.html all mine are shown active there.

I have added one 10.11.5 server as sv06 which is testnet NOMP, and have changed version of sv03 from 9.11.5 to 10.11.5.

https://elbzo.net/masternodes.htm use 10.11.5 for drkmn01 ~ drkmn08 and 9.11.5 for p2pool.

Looks like there is variance in MN status between 9.11.5 and 10.11.5:



Could indicate that voting system will differ between the two wallets.

If NM or statble has different list of NM, selected masternode for darksend can be differ.


I have recorded getblocktemplate of every block.
example)
http://drk.poolhash.org/poolhashrate/getblocktemplate/94012.txt
http://drk.poolhash.org/poolhashrate/getblock/94012.txt
http://drk.poolhash.org/poolhashrate/getrawtransaction/94012.txt

http://drk.poolhash.org/doubleshot.html?block=94012 has the results.

another log / masternode list + getblocktemplate + vote
http://drk.poolhash.org/poolhashrate/masterlist/94012.txt

As some pools have not paid masternode, I use result of getblocktemplate.


This is list of expected payee using getblocktemplate.
http://pastebin.com/upV7vDbe


Check your address.


Edit:
active nm of 93985, grep to expected payee
http://pastebin.com/MWcctL5H

[chaeplin]

80 hours and no payment. I should have sold my 1k 4 days ago to buy back in now. Would have made a couple hundred drk  
Im sure it will all work out, I need to get busy to stop watching it.

Post your address, I will grep address on recorded getblocktemplate results.

[darianc]

The MNs I'm looking after has payment variance of 2 to 8 Drks. All have been paid. I think generating a new MN privkey is sufficient. Changing the IP seemed to have no extra effect for me. Hope that helps someone.

Sadly, no.

We're going on 96 hours now with no payments on my MN. I understand variance, but I'm beginning to lose faith here. Even under the most optimistic projections (500 nodes and only 50% paid blocks) we're looking at (1 - ((499/500)^(298*4))) = 91.96% chance of my node having been paid.

NO! PAY ATTENTION!

It is entirely possible, even probable and likely, that the block that would have paid you was issued by a pool that is not performing payments. The block that had your name on it might have paid you if it came from a legitimate pool.

The point being, the block that paid you was probably found, and you would have gotten paid; but there are still enough bad actors on the network that even thought the probability says you'd get paid, that block was issued by an entity that is refusing to comply and keeping the coin for itself instead of paying you like it should have.

Due to the density of bad actors still on the network, it could be as long as 2 weeks before you get paid becasue if you're exceptionally unlucky, plus that block pops out of a non-paying pool, even when you do get voted lucky, you're still not getting paid because the pool kept it for itself instead of paying you.

How many times do I have to explain this shit!

I think people are looking for some type of deterministic, predictable payout.  I know I am.
Some sort of balance between time since paid weighted by time on network.
Not necessarily round-robin, but favoring equal distribution using some appropriate metrics.

The gaussian nature of the current rewards could be addressed with network consensus enforcing which potential *set* of nodes are to be paid next with subsequent sets automatically pruning previous reward winners.

Just an idea that seems possible.

[ddink7]

The MNs I'm looking after has payment variance of 2 to 8 Drks. All have been paid. I think generating a new MN privkey is sufficient. Changing the IP seemed to have no extra effect for me. Hope that helps someone.

Sadly, no.

We're going on 96 hours now with no payments on my MN. I understand variance, but I'm beginning to lose faith here. Even under the most optimistic projections (500 nodes and only 50% paid blocks) we're looking at (1 - ((499/500)^(298*4))) = 91.96% chance of my node having been paid.

NO! PAY ATTENTION!

It is entirely possible, even probable and likely, that the block that would have paid you was issued by a pool that is not performing payments. The block that had your name on it might have paid you if it came from a legitimate pool.

The point being, the block that paid you was probably found, and you would have gotten paid; but there are still enough bad actors on the network that even thought the probability says you'd get paid, that block was issued by an entity that is refusing to comply and keeping the coin for itself instead of paying you like it should have.

Due to the density of bad actors still on the network, it could be as long as 2 weeks before you get paid becasue if you're exceptionally unlucky, plus that block pops out of a non-paying pool, even when you do get voted lucky, you're still not getting paid because the pool kept it for itself instead of paying you.

How many times do I have to explain this shit! It's not that fucking hard to understand...

You probably have been voted a payment. But a shitpool stole it instead of giving it to you. Spork. Enforcement OFF. Why is nobody reading this stuff? I'm not even running an MN yet and I have done my homework.. Hell, it's not even homework, just open eyes, face forward... There's some crotchety old woman set to be cloned without her knowledge who's got it all figured out...

0.9 and 0.10 might also be picking and choosing differently... That's the whole fucking point of testing this code on livenet... Testnet is too sterile to see the problems. With Spork Tehcnology, we can see the problems without borking the coin on failforks... Has this not been repeatedly explained for pages and pages on multiple forums?

Camo, I like you bud, but you can be a little high strung lol!

I don't recall seeing it explained that clearly and it makes sense that way. I'm still very intrigued by the guy that's received 14 payments...in fact I'm a little more concerned about that than I am about me. The odds have got to be phenominal, ESPECIALLY with all the bad actors.

[ddink7]

The MNs I'm looking after has payment variance of 2 to 8 Drks. All have been paid. I think generating a new MN privkey is sufficient. Changing the IP seemed to have no extra effect for me. Hope that helps someone.

Sadly, no.

We're going on 96 hours now with no payments on my MN. I understand variance, but I'm beginning to lose faith here. Even under the most optimistic projections (500 nodes and only 50% paid blocks) we're looking at (1 - ((499/500)^(298*4))) = 91.96% chance of my node having been paid.

NO! PAY ATTENTION!

It is entirely possible, even probable and likely, that the block that would have paid you was issued by a pool that is not performing payments. The block that had your name on it might have paid you if it came from a legitimate pool.

The point being, the block that paid you was probably found, and you would have gotten paid; but there are still enough bad actors on the network that even thought the probability says you'd get paid, that block was issued by an entity that is refusing to comply and keeping the coin for itself instead of paying you like it should have.

Due to the density of bad actors still on the network, it could be as long as 2 weeks before you get paid becasue if you're exceptionally unlucky, plus that block pops out of a non-paying pool, even when you do get voted lucky, you're still not getting paid because the pool kept it for itself instead of paying you.

How many times do I have to explain this shit!

I think people are looking for some type of deterministic, predictable payout.  I know I am.
Some sort of balance between time since paid weighted by time on network.
Not necessarily round-robin, but favoring equal distribution using some appropriate metrics.

The gaussian nature of the current rewards could be addressed with the proper consensus enforcing which potential *set* of nodes are to be paid next with subsequent sets automatically pruning previous reward winners.

Just an idea that seems possible.

That seems like an exceptional idea to me. Definitely NOT round-robin, but some sort of weighting to influence the randomization.

[camosoul]

The MNs I'm looking after has payment variance of 2 to 8 Drks. All have been paid. I think generating a new MN privkey is sufficient. Changing the IP seemed to have no extra effect for me. Hope that helps someone.

Sadly, no.

We're going on 96 hours now with no payments on my MN. I understand variance, but I'm beginning to lose faith here. Even under the most optimistic projections (500 nodes and only 50% paid blocks) we're looking at (1 - ((499/500)^(298*4))) = 91.96% chance of my node having been paid.

NO! PAY ATTENTION!

It is entirely possible, even probable and likely, that the block that would have paid you was issued by a pool that is not performing payments. The block that had your name on it might have paid you if it came from a legitimate pool.

The point being, the block that paid you was probably found, and you would have gotten paid; but there are still enough bad actors on the network that even thought the probability says you'd get paid, that block was issued by an entity that is refusing to comply and keeping the coin for itself instead of paying you like it should have.

Due to the density of bad actors still on the network, it could be as long as 2 weeks before you get paid becasue if you're exceptionally unlucky, plus that block pops out of a non-paying pool, even when you do get voted lucky, you're still not getting paid because the pool kept it for itself instead of paying you.

How many times do I have to explain this shit!

I think people are looking for some type of deterministic, predictable payout.  I know I am.
Some sort of balance between time since paid weighted by time on network.
Not necessarily round-robin, but favoring equal distribution using some appropriate metrics.

The gaussian nature of the current rewards could be addressed with the proper consensus enforcing which potential *set* of nodes are to be paid next with subsequent sets automatically pruning previous reward winners.

Just an idea that seems possible.

General probability will do a plenty good enough job on it's own once the monkey-wrenches are enforced off of the network.

The point is that it can't be deterministic to be fair. It's not the same as mining on a massively saturated network... In the first few months of BTC everyone mined solo and might just pop a block of 50 on their own... We're not that heavy yet plus we still have people tampering with it to keep the coins instead of paying them. It's stupid to expect level results.