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June 30, 2014, 07:29:23 PM
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Do you have some spot in the charts you think we are back in the clear? Or do we have to wait out the 4h regardless?

I usually find we have to wait it out before going substantially back up but that 1279 might well have been the bottom - I think it probably was.

I was worried that there was a load of sellers waiting for the 15 minute to come back up before offloading for the next dump wave, but instead the opposite happened. So that tells me that the 4 hour might be now getting puled out of the mud by the 1 and 2 hour up trends over the next few hours.

For all my pouring over charts and TA analysis, I got caught out by bear trap and I hate that. 150 DRK forced out of me during jittery trading.
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June 30, 2014, 07:32:12 PM
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I have learnt that I gain more not trading Wink Nice strategy. Try it. Wanna more drk? Buy it. Sell other coins to get more. Wash the car of your neighbour to get funds for drk. Eat porrige to save more money to get mor drk. Use harder paper toilet insted of soft one to get more drk. Wanna me to continue??? Wink
Just accumulate and your patience will be gratified.
Fear? - I think everyone of us has a bit when the price dump.  
Relax. Go outside with the dog. Dont you have a dog? Buy one. Or not better to get more coins. Take your USB with wallets instead for a walk Wink
Nice and bright future for the drk ppl!
Ave drk community.
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June 30, 2014, 07:33:18 PM
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That's positively the worst trade I ever made. The buyers have shown their hand. They're not letting it go below 135..

Thank god most of my holdings are locked up in cold storage where I can't get my jittery hands on them.
I've done worse, but not due to jitters... So don't feel too bad. I lost about 4200 DRK due to a DSL modem fail...

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June 30, 2014, 07:38:39 PM
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concept. still testing.

- 1 m3.medium + 5 private ip + 5 el ip(default max)
- 5 user account
- each user run darkcoind(bind + rpcport + externalip)


* problem : outbound connection uses default primary private ip -> same el ip.
                 inbound : no prob.

Code:
root@ip-172-31-13-72:~# pstree -au
init
  ├─cron
  ├─darkcoind,nm01
  │   └─13*[{darkcoind}]
  ├─darkcoind,nm02
  │   └─13*[{darkcoind}]
  ├─darkcoind,nm03
  │   └─13*[{darkcoind}]
  ├─darkcoind,nm04
  │   └─13*[{darkcoind}]
  ├─darkcoind,nm05
  │   └─13*[{darkcoind}]



root@ip-172-31-13-72:~# ip addr
1: lo: <LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 65536 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN group default
    link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00
    inet 127.0.0.1/8 scope host lo
       valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
    inet6 ::1/128 scope host
       valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
2: eth0: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 9001 qdisc pfifo_fast state UP group default qlen 1000
    link/ether 06:1d:47:d5:1c:71 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
    inet 172.31.13.72/20 brd 172.31.15.255 scope global eth0
       valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
    inet 172.31.13.142/20 brd 172.31.15.255 scope global secondary eth0:1
       valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
    inet 172.31.13.143/20 brd 172.31.15.255 scope global secondary eth0:2
       valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
    inet 172.31.13.144/20 brd 172.31.15.255 scope global secondary eth0:3
       valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
    inet 172.31.13.145/20 brd 172.31.15.255 scope global secondary eth0:4
       valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever

thanks Chaeplin for your hard work for dark community.
You are one of the big differences between dark and shit-anon-trytobe currencies
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June 30, 2014, 07:39:26 PM
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concept. still testing.

- 1 m3.medium + 5 private ip + 5 el ip(default max)
- 5 user account
- each user run darkcoind(bind + rpcport + externalip)


* problem : outbound connection uses default primary private ip -> same el ip.
                 inbound : no prob.

Code:
root@ip-172-31-13-72:~# pstree -au
init
  ├─cron
  ├─darkcoind,nm01
  │   └─13*[{darkcoind}]
  ├─darkcoind,nm02
  │   └─13*[{darkcoind}]
  ├─darkcoind,nm03
  │   └─13*[{darkcoind}]
  ├─darkcoind,nm04
  │   └─13*[{darkcoind}]
  ├─darkcoind,nm05
  │   └─13*[{darkcoind}]



root@ip-172-31-13-72:~# ip addr
1: lo: <LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 65536 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN group default
    link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00
    inet 127.0.0.1/8 scope host lo
       valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
    inet6 ::1/128 scope host
       valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
2: eth0: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 9001 qdisc pfifo_fast state UP group default qlen 1000
    link/ether 06:1d:47:d5:1c:71 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
    inet 172.31.13.72/20 brd 172.31.15.255 scope global eth0
       valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
    inet 172.31.13.142/20 brd 172.31.15.255 scope global secondary eth0:1
       valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
    inet 172.31.13.143/20 brd 172.31.15.255 scope global secondary eth0:2
       valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
    inet 172.31.13.144/20 brd 172.31.15.255 scope global secondary eth0:3
       valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
    inet 172.31.13.145/20 brd 172.31.15.255 scope global secondary eth0:4
       valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever

There must be some virtual solution that doesn't require physical NICs ?
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June 30, 2014, 07:44:04 PM
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That's positively the worst trade I ever made. The buyers have shown their hand. They're not letting it go below 135..

Thank god most of my holdings are locked up in cold storage where I can't get my jittery hands on them.
I've done worse, but not due to jitters... So don't feel too bad. I lost about 4200 DRK due to a DSL modem fail...

Eh? How were the DRK lost?
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June 30, 2014, 07:45:10 PM
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concept. still testing.

- 1 m3.medium + 5 private ip + 5 el ip(default max)
- 5 user account
- each user run darkcoind(bind + rpcport + externalip)


* problem : outbound connection uses default primary private ip -> same el ip.
                 inbound : no prob.

Code:
root@ip-172-31-13-72:~# pstree -au
init
  ├─cron
  ├─darkcoind,nm01
  │   └─13*[{darkcoind}]
  ├─darkcoind,nm02
  │   └─13*[{darkcoind}]
  ├─darkcoind,nm03
  │   └─13*[{darkcoind}]
  ├─darkcoind,nm04
  │   └─13*[{darkcoind}]
  ├─darkcoind,nm05
  │   └─13*[{darkcoind}]



root@ip-172-31-13-72:~# ip addr
1: lo: <LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 65536 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN group default
    link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00
    inet 127.0.0.1/8 scope host lo
       valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
    inet6 ::1/128 scope host
       valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
2: eth0: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 9001 qdisc pfifo_fast state UP group default qlen 1000
    link/ether 06:1d:47:d5:1c:71 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
    inet 172.31.13.72/20 brd 172.31.15.255 scope global eth0
       valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
    inet 172.31.13.142/20 brd 172.31.15.255 scope global secondary eth0:1
       valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
    inet 172.31.13.143/20 brd 172.31.15.255 scope global secondary eth0:2
       valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
    inet 172.31.13.144/20 brd 172.31.15.255 scope global secondary eth0:3
       valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
    inet 172.31.13.145/20 brd 172.31.15.255 scope global secondary eth0:4
       valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever

There must be some virtual solution that doesn't require physical NICs ?

what about using kvm inside the linux installation, and create separate vm machines running darkcoind each ?

the vnics as you created are just for inbound connections.

and if you are behind a router diing nat, than any outgoing connection has the routers public ip anyhow :-/
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June 30, 2014, 07:46:21 PM
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Use harder paper toilet insted of soft one to get more drk

R.O.T.F.W.L. !

ok - good advice. I get the idea Smiley
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June 30, 2014, 07:50:01 PM
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Use harder paper toilet insted of soft one to get more drk

R.O.T.F.W.L. !

ok - good advice. I get the idea Smiley

at least omebody Wink

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June 30, 2014, 07:56:18 PM
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EDIT (6/28/2014)
New clients have been released and more changes have been made. Current versions are v9.11.5 and v10.11.5. It is important that all solo-miners and pool operators update to the correct clients! Miners make the network work, and as such you need to use the right client versions, stay up to date and keep our blockchain healthy and stable!

You can find the new client software on the official downloads page of www.Darkcoin.io.

https://www.darkcoin.io/getstarted.html

*** PLEASE UPDATE TO 9.11.5 OR 10.11.5 ***


Windows Users:
v9.11.5
v10.11.5

Linux Users:
Ubuntu v10.11.5 GUI Wallet/Client
Ubuntu v10.11.5 Darkcoind Daemon

Mac Users:
v9.11.5 Wallet/Client

https://darkcointalk.org/threads/please-update-your-darkcoin-clients.1602/
New page, bump....
coin101 lets do the shifts, You 00-12, me 12-24 Cheesy

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June 30, 2014, 07:56:34 PM
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concept. still testing.

- 1 m3.medium + 5 private ip + 5 el ip(default max)
- 5 user account
- each user run darkcoind(bind + rpcport + externalip)


* problem : outbound connection uses default primary private ip -> same el ip.
                 inbound : no prob.

Code:
root@ip-172-31-13-72:~# pstree -au
init
  ├─cron
  ├─darkcoind,nm01
  │   └─13*[{darkcoind}]
  ├─darkcoind,nm02
  │   └─13*[{darkcoind}]
  ├─darkcoind,nm03
  │   └─13*[{darkcoind}]
  ├─darkcoind,nm04
  │   └─13*[{darkcoind}]
  ├─darkcoind,nm05
  │   └─13*[{darkcoind}]



root@ip-172-31-13-72:~# ip addr
1: lo: <LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 65536 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN group default
    link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00
    inet 127.0.0.1/8 scope host lo
       valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
    inet6 ::1/128 scope host
       valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
2: eth0: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 9001 qdisc pfifo_fast state UP group default qlen 1000
    link/ether 06:1d:47:d5:1c:71 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
    inet 172.31.13.72/20 brd 172.31.15.255 scope global eth0
       valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
    inet 172.31.13.142/20 brd 172.31.15.255 scope global secondary eth0:1
       valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
    inet 172.31.13.143/20 brd 172.31.15.255 scope global secondary eth0:2
       valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
    inet 172.31.13.144/20 brd 172.31.15.255 scope global secondary eth0:3
       valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
    inet 172.31.13.145/20 brd 172.31.15.255 scope global secondary eth0:4
       valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever

There must be some virtual solution that doesn't require physical NICs ?

what about using kvm inside the linux installation, and create separate vm machines running darkcoind each ?

the vnics as you created are just for inbound connections.

and if you are behind a router diing nat, than any outgoing connection has the routers public ip anyhow :-/

That's the problem - getting Amazon (or whomevers) hardware to do what you want without having to pay any extra... Wink
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June 30, 2014, 07:57:03 PM
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Use harder paper toilet insted of soft one to get more drk

R.O.T.F.W.L. !

ok - good advice. I get the idea Smiley


Better yet, request paper bags at the grocery store and skip the TP altogether.
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June 30, 2014, 07:57:10 PM
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That's the problem - getting Amazon (or whomevers) hardware to do what you want without having to pay any extra... Wink
Solution: don't use someone else's hardware.

I got an old 2U pizza box on eBay for a few hundred bucks. Has more storage, CPU and RAM than I know what to do with... I've got over 50 VMs on it... 16 CPU cores at over 3GHz each, stacks of HDs... It's ridiculous. Sideband remote baremetal == encrypted root on the host system. Working on encrypted RAM w/ a trigger that scrambles RAM and hits the key storage first for instantaneous "cat /proc/urandom > /dev/hda" - cold-boot attacks be damned! Go ahead, try to ice my RAM... It's shreded anyway!

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June 30, 2014, 08:03:31 PM
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That's the problem - getting Amazon (or whomevers) hardware to do what you want without having to pay any extra... Wink
Solution: don't use someone else's hardware.

I got an old 2U pizza box on eBay for a few hundred bucks. Has more storage, CPU and RAM than I know what to do with... I've got over 50 VMs on it... 16 CPU cores at over 3GHz each, stacks of HDs... It's ridiculous.

The tradeoff is resilience. Amazon's datacentre is probably less prone to random brownouts and has better failover scope than one box and a few routers in my basement. There isn't a perfect solution, but it's good to have options.
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June 30, 2014, 08:04:56 PM
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That's the problem - getting Amazon (or whomevers) hardware to do what you want without having to pay any extra... Wink
Solution: don't use someone else's hardware.

I got an old 2U pizza box on eBay for a few hundred bucks. Has more storage, CPU and RAM than I know what to do with... I've got over 50 VMs on it... 16 CPU cores at over 3GHz each, stacks of HDs... It's ridiculous.
The tradeoff is resilience. Amazon's datacentre is probably less prone to random brownouts and has better failover scope than one box and a few routers in my basement. There isn't a perfect solution, but it's good to have options.
It's on a fat pipe at a datacenter, hence the paranoia for encryption and scramble triggers... I'm less concerned with brown outs or uptime than I am ensuring the box completely self-destructs if anyone messes with it even the tiniest bit...

This box actually CPU mines DRK better than any video card I have, lols.

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June 30, 2014, 08:07:44 PM
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That's the problem - getting Amazon (or whomevers) hardware to do what you want without having to pay any extra... Wink
Solution: don't use someone else's hardware.

I got an old 2U pizza box on eBay for a few hundred bucks. Has more storage, CPU and RAM than I know what to do with... I've got over 50 VMs on it... 16 CPU cores at over 3GHz each, stacks of HDs... It's ridiculous.
The tradeoff is resilience. Amazon's datacentre is probably less prone to random brownouts and has better failover scope than one box and a few routers in my basement. There isn't a perfect solution, but it's good to have options.
It's on a fat pipe at a datacenter

Haha, fair enough then.  Grin
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Damn - I talked my wife into living in a motorhome for a couple years while we saved to buy the house we now own.  How the hell can I convince her to do this?.....
I put my girl in charge of trading, that got her hooked and believe it or not, she's moving into the warehouse with me, she's in just as deep as I am... She's learning to ride the scam waves to buy us more DRK...

We move next week, even running half NIST5 and half x11 the farm is gonna be a wee bit noisy for us to live next to, so right now I'm working out how to get the farm happy with fans on 20% without losing too much performance.
Make sure to diversify. My crypto portfolio is 60% DRK and 40% VRC, XC, CLOAK, SUPER, CINNI, SFR, and XGR.
“Wide diversification is only required when investors do not understand what they are doing.”
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I also believe in the saying "rising water float all boats" I got in DRK at 60 cents. Took some of my profits and rolled into VRC, XC, CLOAK, SUPER, CINNI, SFR, and XGR. VRC has been kicking ass lately.
Shitcoins never kick ass, they just get pumped... Fundamentals kick ass. Scamwaves are just surges in stupid...


Call it what you want I am not going 100% in on DRK, I am still holding over 1300 DRK. Fundametals doesn't mean shit nowadays, tell that to the Silver stackers ( I'm one of them ).
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June 30, 2014, 08:14:23 PM
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“Wide diversification is only required when investors do not understand what they are doing.”
Warren Buffett

True. But it's a rule that does have exceptions in new markets. The anonymous market is a new market. Hence there is explosive growth potential (anything that starts with 0% marketshare has explosive growth potential) for most coins that start in that market. They can go from 0 to something back to 0 (p&d) but ok... you ride the wave and cash on it.

These are quite predictable (quoting myself from 4 months ago):

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The general crypto boom is over. Those who saw 8000%+ profits from BTC in < 2 years were the lucky few. Who we be the Levi Strauss of the crypto era - a man who started a small business selling new-fanged denim jeans to the gold miners back in '49. Perhaps you've heard Levi's?

I think cryptos in general have a lot of potential. I mean most people don't even know what Bitcoin is, let alone altcoins. And, if you factor in that around three quarters of the planet live in countries with high inflation rate (not EUR, GBP, USD etc - which of course are inflated too but to a lesser degree), cryptos could be a nice alternative to the national currency - and much more convenient than gold for trade purposes.

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DRK looks interesting enough, but whether or not it shoots up and outrageous amount to $20, or even $100 by next year is largely irrelevant,

Darkcoin is providing a second option vs the monopoly of transparency in which ther coins are in. This means that if someone wants their crypto deposits / crypto transactions to be more private they'll have to move over to DRK. The transparent market is at 100% right now while the more-private market is at near 0%. In terms of "market growth potential" what will happen should be pretty easy to figure out.

With a market cap of ~8bn (BTC+other alts) to 3mn (DARKcoin), the prospect of capital flowing toward the DRK side is "significant". Even if one per cent of the "transparent" market moves to the more private market, we're talking about 80mn USD boost that is there to share for DRK or other anon coins which may follow - and they will not be necessarily mutually exclusive (one could practice transferring money through 2-3 anon coins, implementing different solutions, for extra safety / privacy). Needless to say what may happen if tax authorities start to crack down on BTC. The "just 1%" may suddenly become several % - with a corresponding boost in value of the private coins.

I mean, from a market perspective, and with such prospects being there, even if the anon market is shared by 2-3-5 different coins in the long run, this is a 9-digit to 10-digit market (xxx millions to billions) that they will share between them. Current market cap of a few million USD may seem like a joke by then. With such fundamentals, who needs hype, or pump and dumps?

Coinmarketcap:

#   Name   Market Cap   Price   Available Supply   Volume (24h)   % Change (24h)   Market Cap Graph (7d)
4    Darkcoin   $ 39,684,592   $ 8.96   4,428,986 DRK   $ 1,241,651   -2.71 %   
10    VeriCoin   $ 8,590,135   $ 0.320769   26,779,852 VRC   $ 1,465,966   +17.07 %   
12    Bytecoin (BCN)   $ 8,129,054   $ 0.000052   156,642,854,474 BCN   $ 3,165   -3.50 %   
16    Monero   $ 4,677,589   $ 2.63   1,780,026 XMR   $ 119,672   +10.60 %   
18    XC   $ 4,460,178   $ 0.808752   5,514,891 XC*   $ 80,184   +4.30 %   
20    Neutrino   $ 3,722,219   $ 0.017692   210,394,506 NTR   $ 864   +9.82 %   
33    Razor   $ 1,364,053   $ 0.909187   1,500,300 RZR   $ 275,847   +11.02 %   
34    CloakCoin   $ 1,336,960   $ 0.296237   4,513,147 CLOAK*   $ 50,087   -4.84 %   
38    Anoncoin   $ 901,704   $ 0.848384   1,062,849 ANC   $ 13,695   +16.56 %   
41    CryptCoin   $ 785,813   $ 0.264090   2,975,551 CRYPT   $ 55,486   -9.35 %   
42    Cinni   $ 735,970   $ 0.048990   15,022,999 CINNI*   $ 26,377   +12.61 %   
44    SuperCoin   $ 631,008   $ 0.042811   14,739,465 SUPER   $ 58,587   -10.77 %   
51    Boolberry   $ 463,752   $ 0.850716   545,131 BBR   $ 11,018   +12.99 %   
54    VootCoin   $ 425,579   $ 0.006177   68,898,641 VOOT   $ 54,236   -5.94 %   

= 76mn USD (in line with my projection) of which the majority (65.52mn) is shared by the top5 and DRK has 52% marketshare of the entire market (it's usually ~60%+ but the price spiked down today)

Naturally, the others that started out of nowhere, had even larger marketcap explosions (in terms of %) compared to DRK which had ~2mn or something 4 months ago.
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June 30, 2014, 08:14:53 PM
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Damn - I talked my wife into living in a motorhome for a couple years while we saved to buy the house we now own.  How the hell can I convince her to do this?.....
I put my girl in charge of trading, that got her hooked and believe it or not, she's moving into the warehouse with me, she's in just as deep as I am... She's learning to ride the scam waves to buy us more DRK...

We move next week, even running half NIST5 and half x11 the farm is gonna be a wee bit noisy for us to live next to, so right now I'm working out how to get the farm happy with fans on 20% without losing too much performance.
Make sure to diversify. My crypto portfolio is 60% DRK and 40% VRC, XC, CLOAK, SUPER, CINNI, SFR, and XGR.
“Wide diversification is only required when investors do not understand what they are doing.”
Warren Buffett
I also believe in the saying "rising water float all boats" I got in DRK at 60 cents. Took some of my profits and rolled into VRC, XC, CLOAK, SUPER, CINNI, SFR, and XGR. VRC has been kicking ass lately.
Shitcoins never kick ass, they just get pumped... Fundamentals kick ass. Scamwaves are just surges in stupid...
Call it what you want I am not going 100% in on DRK, I am still holding over 1300 DRK. Fundametals doesn't mean shit nowadays, tell that to the Silver stackers ( I'm one of them ).
If all you're concerned with is investment/profit, you're right.

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June 30, 2014, 08:14:59 PM
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LOL Coins101, I was in construction  Cheesy

Dang Camo, I can't be the only female here!  Hey girls, step outta hiding and say hello if you're female!  Or at least gay?  I need some company here!

Ignition, send her to the forums!

Another proud lifetime Dash Foundation member Smiley My TanteStefana account was hacked, Beware trading
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