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[qwizzie]

georgem is in the fitness business.. isnt he ? 

[qwizzie]

Sneak peek on what is coming up

       


         

[from https://darkcointalk.org/threads/windows-installer-artworks.1751/#post-11727]

very nice

was meaning to look at those pics (at work those pics got blocked). very nice indeed.

[shojayxt]

We're almost at 80% masternode payments compliance!! I'll admit I didn't think we could do so well without enforcement, but I didn't knew people like GhostPlayer were going to work so hard on this

Enjoy the graph.

Yeah, the masternode compliance police have been out in full force making sure people are paying their masternode tax.  

You obviously didn't read the first 300 pages. Without master nodes there is no anonymity. Without payments to master nodes any dick with an internet connection could start hundreds of master nodes and there would be no anonymity. Without payments there is no incentive to buy 1000 DRK and tie them up in Master Nodes. Without Master Nodes there is no mining, because there would be no point.

Pointless.

Rather like you.

I guess you would rather user your internet connection to launch hundreds of free to use master nodes.

Without master nodes there is no anonymity.

Exactly!  Darkcoins anonymity exists only with a masternode cluster fuck.  There are better anonymity solutions being developed.


You actually confirm some of what I posted "buy 1000 DRK and tie them up in Master Nodes.".  Masternodes require people to invest in 1000 DRK and then keep them off the market therefore driving up the price.  How convenient.

Darkcoin was being mined for months without masternodes.


Bottom line is that other solutions already provide at least the same a level of anonymity as Darkcoin without the need to tax one user to pay another for running a masternode.  Everyone knows that Bitcoin isn't anonymous.  Darkcoin is a Bitcoin clone.  Darkcoin is trying to be something it was never intended to be.  A truly anonymous coin will be designed with anonymity from the beginning.  There are some right now.  The masternode network is basically a hack that will prove to be problematic and suffer from issue after issue due to the fact that it's trying to make something into something it was never intended to be.  Already two failed rollout attempts.  It also creates an image of unfairness by taxing miners to pay masternode operators.  A better solution would have been to charge enough of a fee from the users sending anonymously to pay masternode operators an amount that still made it profitable to run a masternode.  But then you wouldn't have people wanting to use the network.  

Darkcoin suffers from a bad methodology to achieve anonymity and it's put everything into this one basket.

[georgem]

georgem is in the fitness business.. isnt he ?  

If you told me 5 weeks ago that I'd be creating "fitness"-related darkcoin gifs everyday for this thread, I would have said...



But here I am,... story of my life, I don't know how I always entangle myself with such shit.
Well, I suppose it must be darkcoin! I like darkcoin, and I hope it goes a long way.
I celebrate this by creating those gifs, I suppose. 

[mattmct]

We're almost at 80% masternode payments compliance!! I'll admit I didn't think we could do so well without enforcement, but I didn't knew people like GhostPlayer were going to work so hard on this

Enjoy the graph.

Yeah, the masternode compliance police have been out in full force making sure people are paying their masternode tax.  

You obviously didn't read the first 300 pages. Without master nodes there is no anonymity. Without payments to master nodes any dick with an internet connection could start hundreds of master nodes and there would be no anonymity. Without payments there is no incentive to buy 1000 DRK and tie them up in Master Nodes. Without Master Nodes there is no mining, because there would be no point.

Pointless.

Rather like you.

I guess you would rather user your internet connection to launch hundreds of free to use master nodes.

Without master nodes there is no anonymity.

Exactly!  Darkcoins anonymity exists only with a masternode cluster fuck.  There are better anonymity solutions being developed.


You actually confirm some of what I posted "buy 1000 DRK and tie them up in Master Nodes.".  Masternodes require people to invest in 1000 DRK and then keep them off the market therefore driving up the price.  How convenient.

Darkcoin was being mined for months without masternodes.


Bottom line is that other solutions already provide at least the same a level of anonymity as Darkcoin without the need to tax one user to pay another for running a masternode.  Everyone knows that Bitcoin isn't anonymous.  Darkcoin is a Bitcoin clone.  Darkcoin is trying to be something it was never intended to be.  A truly anonymous coin will be designed with anonymity from the beginning.  There are some right now.  The masternode network is basically a hack that will prove to be problematic and suffer from issue after issue due to the fact that it's trying to make something into something it was never intended to be.  Already two failed rollout attempts.  It also creates an image of unfairness by taxing miners to pay masternode operators.  A better solution would have been to charge enough of a fee from the users sending anonymously to pay masternode operators an amount that still made it profitable to run a masternode.  But then you wouldn't have people wanting to use the network.  

Darkcoin suffers from a bad methodology to achieve anonymity and it's put everything into this one basket.

I'd like to direct you to this post by propultion: https://darkcointalk.org/threads/the-genius-behind-masternodes.1764/
Bitcoin is currently suffering from a decreasing number of nodes ... http://www.bitcoinpulse.com/chart/bitnodes/num_nodes/total ... because there is no incentive to run them..

That's why Dark's masternodes are so clever.  You think we would have over 600 of them if people we'ren't getting rewarded?

[coins101]

I propose an experiment, to all Darkcoin investors.


 1) Listen to the first part of this podcast, where Andreas Antonopolous explains in technical and practical terms, the inner workings of a 51% attack, as well as what exactly can happens during a fork, as well as mining, and pools, and all that jazz...

 2) Substitute the word "Book", with "closed source Darksend" - and "Nicosia University" with "testnet"
    2.1) "Masters degree" with "Masternode"

 3) Substitute the word "Bitcoin" with "Darkcoin"

 4) Substitute "5 years" with "6 months" (only happens once, easy to remember)

 5) When done, re-evaluate Darkcoin, and Evan's roadmap strategy.

http://letstalkbitcoin.com/blog/post/lets-talk-bitcoin-125-51-solutions-and-zhou-tonged

Please feel free to bump this for while so our time-divergent friends and investors around the world see this.
Only takes 30 minutes, and can change your entire perception of things.

interesting, to say the least

[eduffield]

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Darkcoin suffers from a bad methodology to achieve anonymity and it's put everything into this one basket.

Sorry to hear you lost faith in the project. Also, sorry you're going to be getting out at a horrible time (right before I announce I have EVERYTHING figured out to make Darkcoin mainstream?).

Over the past couple of days, I've made huge leaps in the Darksend technology. In fact, RC4 will be the final solution to Darkcoin's anonymity. The client will automatically look at all of your funds and it will be able to tell which funds are not anonymized, if it finds non-anonymous outputs it will run them through a darksend with other clients. After that process, users can send without Darksend using the anonymous outputs for instant transactions without waiting for other nodes (with no upper limit on transaction sizes).

The other thing you're missing is that there is a reason I forked Bitcoin. Adoption for Darkcoin will be MUCH faster and easier for vendors, because all of the APIs are the same.

Expect more news in a few days. I have lots of work to do, but soon we can start testing all of this new functionality.

[sin242]

Holy ballsack....



edit: also, in before panicbuy

[coins101]

We're almost at 80% masternode payments compliance!! I'll admit I didn't think we could do so well without enforcement, but I didn't knew people like GhostPlayer were going to work so hard on this

Enjoy the graph.

Yeah, the masternode compliance police have been out in full force making sure people are paying their masternode tax.  

You obviously didn't read the first 300 pages. Without master nodes there is no anonymity. Without payments to master nodes any dick with an internet connection could start hundreds of master nodes and there would be no anonymity. Without payments there is no incentive to buy 1000 DRK and tie them up in Master Nodes. Without Master Nodes there is no mining, because there would be no point.

Pointless.

Rather like you.

I guess you would rather user your internet connection to launch hundreds of free to use master nodes.

Without master nodes there is no anonymity.

Exactly!  Darkcoins anonymity exists only with a masternode cluster fuck.  There are better anonymity solutions being developed.


You actually confirm some of what I posted "buy 1000 DRK and tie them up in Master Nodes.".  Masternodes require people to invest in 1000 DRK and then keep them off the market therefore driving up the price.  How convenient.

Darkcoin was being mined for months without masternodes.


Bottom line is that other solutions already provide at least the same a level of anonymity as Darkcoin without the need to tax one user to pay another for running a masternode.  Everyone knows that Bitcoin isn't anonymous.  Darkcoin is a Bitcoin clone.  Darkcoin is trying to be something it was never intended to be.  A truly anonymous coin will be designed with anonymity from the beginning.  There are some right now.  The masternode network is basically a hack that will prove to be problematic and suffer from issue after issue due to the fact that it's trying to make something into something it was never intended to be.  Already two failed rollout attempts.  It also creates an image of unfairness by taxing miners to pay masternode operators.  A better solution would have been to charge enough of a fee from the users sending anonymously to pay masternode operators an amount that still made it profitable to run a masternode.  But then you wouldn't have people wanting to use the network.  

Darkcoin suffers from a bad methodology to achieve anonymity and it's put everything into this one basket.

I'd like to direct you to this post by propultion: https://darkcointalk.org/threads/the-genius-behind-masternodes.1764/
Bitcoin is currently suffering from a decreasing number of nodes ... http://www.bitcoinpulse.com/chart/bitnodes/num_nodes/total ... because there is no incentive to run them..

That's why Dark's masternodes are so clever.  You think we would have over 600 of them if people we'ren't getting rewarded?

Lets try, one last time.

Bitcoin is way, way, way ahead. Millions are being poured into start-ups.

If Bitcoin doesn't invest in change to create credible anonymity, there will be a price to pay. Chance are Bitcoin will have to do something at some point, but it would be such a gigantic undertaking that they may risk not doing anything.

In that event, everyone would need a plan B, to prevent privacy issues from becoming, er, issues.

So regardless of which xyz coin does anonymity, it needs to be a hybrid of Bitcoin to stand a chance of being introduced as the plan B next to Bitcoin because of incompatibility costs to add a new layer.  E.g, DRK becomes the second credit card introduced next to the most popular credit card.

Will Bitcoin face privacy problems? Who knows? Well, these guys have one insight into the potential problems, amongst the many other issues:

A research paper published in May 2014, highlighted the approach that could be taken to reveal IP addresses of those using Bitcoin: Deanonymisation of clients in Bitcoin P2P network,



http://arxiv.org/pdf/1405.7418.pdf

[coins101]

We're almost at 80% masternode payments compliance!! I'll admit I didn't think we could do so well without enforcement, but I didn't knew people like GhostPlayer were going to work so hard on this

Enjoy the graph.

Yeah, the masternode compliance police have been out in full force making sure people are paying their masternode tax.  

You obviously didn't read the first 300 pages. Without master nodes there is no anonymity. Without payments to master nodes any dick with an internet connection could start hundreds of master nodes and there would be no anonymity. Without payments there is no incentive to buy 1000 DRK and tie them up in Master Nodes. Without Master Nodes there is no mining, because there would be no point.

Pointless.

Rather like you.

I guess you would rather user your internet connection to launch hundreds of free to use master nodes.

Without master nodes there is no anonymity.

Exactly!  Darkcoins anonymity exists only with a masternode cluster fuck.  There are better anonymity solutions being developed.


You actually confirm some of what I posted "buy 1000 DRK and tie them up in Master Nodes.".  Masternodes require people to invest in 1000 DRK and then keep them off the market therefore driving up the price.  How convenient.

Darkcoin was being mined for months without masternodes.


Bottom line is that other solutions already provide at least the same a level of anonymity as Darkcoin without the need to tax one user to pay another for running a masternode.  Everyone knows that Bitcoin isn't anonymous.  Darkcoin is a Bitcoin clone.  Darkcoin is trying to be something it was never intended to be.  A truly anonymous coin will be designed with anonymity from the beginning.  There are some right now.  The masternode network is basically a hack that will prove to be problematic and suffer from issue after issue due to the fact that it's trying to make something into something it was never intended to be.  Already two failed rollout attempts.  It also creates an image of unfairness by taxing miners to pay masternode operators.  A better solution would have been to charge enough of a fee from the users sending anonymously to pay masternode operators an amount that still made it profitable to run a masternode.  But then you wouldn't have people wanting to use the network.  

Darkcoin suffers from a bad methodology to achieve anonymity and it's put everything into this one basket.

I'd like to direct you to this post by propultion: https://darkcointalk.org/threads/the-genius-behind-masternodes.1764/
Bitcoin is currently suffering from a decreasing number of nodes ... http://www.bitcoinpulse.com/chart/bitnodes/num_nodes/total ... because there is no incentive to run them..

That's why Dark's masternodes are so clever.  You think we would have over 600 of them if people we'ren't getting rewarded?

Lets try, one last time.

Bitcoin is way, way, way ahead. Millions are being poured into start-ups.

If Bitcoin doesn't invest in change to create credible anonymity, there will be a price to pay. Chances are Bitcoin will have to do something at some point, but it would be such a gigantic undertaking that they may risk not doing anything.

In that event, everyone would need a plan B, to prevent privacy issues from becoming, er, issues.

So regardless of which xyz coin does anonymity, it needs to be a hybrid of Bitcoin to stand a chance of being introduced as the plan B next to Bitcoin because of incompatibility costs to add a new layer.  E.g, DRK becomes the second credit card introduced next to the most popular credit card.

Will Bitcoin face privacy problems? Who knows? Well, these guys have one insight into the potential problems, amongst the many other issues:

A research paper published in May 2014, highlighted the approach that could be taken to reveal IP addresses of those using Bitcoin: Deanonymisation of clients in Bitcoin P2P network,



http://arxiv.org/pdf/1405.7418.pdf

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Darkcoin suffers from a bad methodology to achieve anonymity and it's put everything into this one basket.

Sorry to hear you lost faith in the project. Also, sorry you're going to be getting out at a horrible time (right before I announce I have EVERYTHING figured out to make Darkcoin mainstream?).

Over the past couple of days, I've made huge leaps in the Darksend technology. In fact, RC4 will be the final solution to Darkcoin's anonymity. The client will automatically look at all of your funds and it will be able to tell which funds are not anonymized, if it finds non-anonymous outputs it will run them through a darksend with other clients. After that process, users can send without Darksend using the anonymous outputs for instant transactions without waiting for other nodes (with no upper limit on transaction sizes).

The other thing you're missing is that there is a reason I forked Bitcoin. Adoption for Darkcoin will be MUCH faster and easier for vendors, because all of the APIs are the same.

Expect more news in a few days. I have lots of work to do, but soon we can start testing all of this new functionality.

Great timing!

[rickraw]

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Darkcoin suffers from a bad methodology to achieve anonymity and it's put everything into this one basket.

Sorry to hear you lost faith in the project. Also, sorry you're going to be getting out at a horrible time (right before I announce I have EVERYTHING figured out to make Darkcoin mainstream?).

Over the past couple of days, I've made huge leaps in the Darksend technology. In fact, RC4 will be the final solution to Darkcoin's anonymity. The client will automatically look at all of your funds and it will be able to tell which funds are not anonymized, if it finds non-anonymous outputs it will run them through a darksend with other clients. After that process, users can send without Darksend using the anonymous outputs for instant transactions without waiting for other nodes (with no upper limit on transaction sizes).

The other thing you're missing is that there is a reason I forked Bitcoin. Adoption for Darkcoin will be MUCH faster and easier for vendors, because all of the APIs are the same.

Expect more news in a few days. I have lots of work to do, but soon we can start testing all of this new functionality.

Worth quoting 

[thelonecrouton]

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Darkcoin suffers from a bad methodology to achieve anonymity and it's put everything into this one basket.

Sorry to hear you lost faith in the project. Also, sorry you're going to be getting out at a horrible time (right before I announce I have EVERYTHING figured out to make Darkcoin mainstream?).

Over the past couple of days, I've made huge leaps in the Darksend technology. In fact, RC4 will be the final solution to Darkcoin's anonymity. The client will automatically look at all of your funds and it will be able to tell which funds are not anonymized, if it finds non-anonymous outputs it will run them through a darksend with other clients. After that process, users can send without Darksend using the anonymous outputs for instant transactions without waiting for other nodes (with no upper limit on transaction sizes).

The other thing you're missing is that there is a reason I forked Bitcoin. Adoption for Darkcoin will be MUCH faster and easier for vendors, because all of the APIs are the same.

Expect more news in a few days. I have lots of work to do, but soon we can start testing all of this new functionality.

Does this not render masternodes redundant?

edit: no, because non-anonymised coin is darksent automagically...

Temporary reading comprehension failure, apologies. 

[coins101]

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Darkcoin suffers from a bad methodology to achieve anonymity and it's put everything into this one basket.

Sorry to hear you lost faith in the project. Also, sorry you're going to be getting out at a horrible time (right before I announce I have EVERYTHING figured out to make Darkcoin mainstream?).

Over the past couple of days, I've made huge leaps in the Darksend technology. In fact, RC4 will be the final solution to Darkcoin's anonymity. The client will automatically look at all of your funds and it will be able to tell which funds are not anonymized, if it finds non-anonymous outputs it will run them through a darksend with other clients. After that process, users can send without Darksend using the anonymous outputs for instant transactions without waiting for other nodes (with no upper limit on transaction sizes).

The other thing you're missing is that there is a reason I forked Bitcoin. Adoption for Darkcoin will be MUCH faster and easier for vendors, because all of the APIs are the same.

Expect more news in a few days. I have lots of work to do, but soon we can start testing all of this new functionality.

Does this not render masternodes redundant?

Troll

 

[thelonecrouton]

Troll

Just old and slow... 

[duckmuy]

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Darkcoin suffers from a bad methodology to achieve anonymity and it's put everything into this one basket.

Sorry to hear you lost faith in the project. Also, sorry you're going to be getting out at a horrible time (right before I announce I have EVERYTHING figured out to make Darkcoin mainstream?).

Over the past couple of days, I've made huge leaps in the Darksend technology. In fact, RC4 will be the final solution to Darkcoin's anonymity. The client will automatically look at all of your funds and it will be able to tell which funds are not anonymized, if it finds non-anonymous outputs it will run them through a darksend with other clients. After that process, users can send without Darksend using the anonymous outputs for instant transactions without waiting for other nodes (with no upper limit on transaction sizes).

The other thing you're missing is that there is a reason I forked Bitcoin. Adoption for Darkcoin will be MUCH faster and easier for vendors, because all of the APIs are the same.

Expect more news in a few days. I have lots of work to do, but soon we can start testing all of this new functionality.

Does this not render masternodes redundant?

edit: no, because non-anonymised coin is darksent automagically...

Temporary reading comprehension failure, apologies. 

Damn we were erecting the crucifix! You escape this time!

[GhostPlayer]

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Darkcoin suffers from a bad methodology to achieve anonymity and it's put everything into this one basket.

Sorry to hear you lost faith in the project. Also, sorry you're going to be getting out at a horrible time (right before I announce I have EVERYTHING figured out to make Darkcoin mainstream?).

Over the past couple of days, I've made huge leaps in the Darksend technology. In fact, RC4 will be the final solution to Darkcoin's anonymity. The client will automatically look at all of your funds and it will be able to tell which funds are not anonymized, if it finds non-anonymous outputs it will run them through a darksend with other clients. After that process, users can send without Darksend using the anonymous outputs for instant transactions without waiting for other nodes (with no upper limit on transaction sizes).

The other thing you're missing is that there is a reason I forked Bitcoin. Adoption for Darkcoin will be MUCH faster and easier for vendors, because all of the APIs are the same.

Expect more news in a few days. I have lots of work to do, but soon we can start testing all of this new functionality.

See?

 Bitcoin is one thing, LTC is another.

 If you're a BTC merchant, you're a brave warrior, plowing new territory.
 If you're also an LTC merchant, you're 2 steps ahead of the previous , tech wise.
 Merchant regulation SUCKS, but has societal purpose.
 DRK solves BTC's prime problem for merchants.
 DRK solves BTC's prime problem for merchant's clients
 DRK solves BTC's prime problem for immense immovable scrutinised private capital.

  No need to have a cryptography degree to solve this equation.  

Darkcoin is brilliant both for micro and macro transactions

[mattmct]

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Darkcoin suffers from a bad methodology to achieve anonymity and it's put everything into this one basket.

Sorry to hear you lost faith in the project. Also, sorry you're going to be getting out at a horrible time (right before I announce I have EVERYTHING figured out to make Darkcoin mainstream?).

Over the past couple of days, I've made huge leaps in the Darksend technology. In fact, RC4 will be the final solution to Darkcoin's anonymity. The client will automatically look at all of your funds and it will be able to tell which funds are not anonymized, if it finds non-anonymous outputs it will run them through a darksend with other clients. After that process, users can send without Darksend using the anonymous outputs for instant transactions without waiting for other nodes (with no upper limit on transaction sizes).

The other thing you're missing is that there is a reason I forked Bitcoin. Adoption for Darkcoin will be MUCH faster and easier for vendors, because all of the APIs are the same.

Expect more news in a few days. I have lots of work to do, but soon we can start testing all of this new functionality.

Evan does it again! Pops in to blow everyone's mind! Never question the development skills!

[humanitee]

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Darkcoin suffers from a bad methodology to achieve anonymity and it's put everything into this one basket.

Sorry to hear you lost faith in the project. Also, sorry you're going to be getting out at a horrible time (right before I announce I have EVERYTHING figured out to make Darkcoin mainstream?).

Over the past couple of days, I've made huge leaps in the Darksend technology. In fact, RC4 will be the final solution to Darkcoin's anonymity. The client will automatically look at all of your funds and it will be able to tell which funds are not anonymized, if it finds non-anonymous outputs it will run them through a darksend with other clients. After that process, users can send without Darksend using the anonymous outputs for instant transactions without waiting for other nodes (with no upper limit on transaction sizes).

The other thing you're missing is that there is a reason I forked Bitcoin. Adoption for Darkcoin will be MUCH faster and easier for vendors, because all of the APIs are the same.

Expect more news in a few days. I have lots of work to do, but soon we can start testing all of this new functionality.

Does this not render masternodes redundant?

edit: no, because non-anonymised coin is darksent automagically...

Temporary reading comprehension failure, apologies. 

I read it the same way the first time. Skimming isn't your friend in this business  .

[illodin]

The client will automatically look at all of your funds and it will be able to tell which funds are not anonymized, if it finds non-anonymous outputs it will run them through a darksend with other clients. After that process, users can send without Darksend using the anonymous outputs for instant transactions without waiting for other nodes (with no upper limit on transaction sizes).

This is one of those moments "why didn't I think of that?" lol

So basically you could anonymize your balance once with however many loops you'd want because it's just one time deal, so it doesn't matter if it takes 20 minutes or 20 hours to get them mixed.. and after that have non-bloating immediate transactions?

[raleit2014]

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Darkcoin suffers from a bad methodology to achieve anonymity and it's put everything into this one basket.

Sorry to hear you lost faith in the project. Also, sorry you're going to be getting out at a horrible time (right before I announce I have EVERYTHING figured out to make Darkcoin mainstream?).

Over the past couple of days, I've made huge leaps in the Darksend technology. In fact, RC4 will be the final solution to Darkcoin's anonymity. The client will automatically look at all of your funds and it will be able to tell which funds are not anonymized, if it finds non-anonymous outputs it will run them through a darksend with other clients. After that process, users can send without Darksend using the anonymous outputs for instant transactions without waiting for other nodes (with no upper limit on transaction sizes).

The other thing you're missing is that there is a reason I forked Bitcoin. Adoption for Darkcoin will be MUCH faster and easier for vendors, because all of the APIs are the same.

Expect more news in a few days. I have lots of work to do, but soon we can start testing all of this new functionality.

I have placed a HOLD rating on DRK until these get sorted out.
good luck on the events.
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