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Author Topic: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency  (Read 9722511 times)
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July 13, 2014, 07:29:41 AM
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Masternode payment portion of the code is open-source.  I think it would be prudent for the problem area of the code (if it exists) to be identified before saying that something is amiss.   
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July 13, 2014, 07:31:08 AM
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Is darksend a open or closed source?

The  -Qt Wallet with Darksend has been Open-Source for some time.
There is a cap of 10DRK per DarkSend at this time.

I hope this answers your question


Well it does answear partially since I cant find the source anywhere!
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July 13, 2014, 07:31:49 AM
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Masternode payment portion of the code is open-source.  I think it would be prudent for the problem area of the code (if it exists) to be identified before saying that something is amiss.   

You can either go through the code OR go through the results - I am doing the latter and there is enough data to base it on.
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July 13, 2014, 07:36:45 AM
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Masternode payment portion of the code is open-source.  I think it would be prudent for the problem area of the code (if it exists) to be identified before saying that something is amiss.   

Not trying to spread Fud, apologies if it comes across that way...

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July 13, 2014, 07:38:06 AM
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I'd keep your Mnode right where it is
- about the time you move
- you could have been paid

We need people WORLD-WIDE and not where they think they should be.

The States has no better chance of being paid then any other country.

KEEP ON KEEP'n on mate....

Carry it thru.....

Look at the average payments and do the maths. US nodes do get much more then the Dutch ones and the sample is big enough to support it.

I'm sorry but I do not think that the sample is big enough to statistically prove that any one portion of the world/countries has a greater average of MN payments to date.

It would take at least 6 months to a year - if not longer to statistically prove your point.....



I agree that 2 weeks is not near enough data hence why I think the code should be examined.  Anyway, if someone gets in touch with Evan then I am sure that he will take a look at it, but it be a shame to take time away from working on Darksend+ -- especially if this is nothing.

Masternode payment portion of the code is open-source.  I think it would be prudent for the problem area of the code (if it exists) to be identified before saying that something is amiss.  

Not trying to spread Fud, apologies if it comes across that way...

No reason to apologize.  I wasn't accusing you of anything.  I just think that things like this should be handled in the most full-proof way whenever possible. Now if we had 6 months of data then that would be a different story.  
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July 13, 2014, 08:01:25 AM
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It is NOTHING....
Statistically speaking - this time frame is bullshit - yeah I said it - BULLSHIT!!

Statistically we are talking about a few months if not years for every things to work it's self out but if you leave now for what you call a "better opportunity" you could just be screwing yourself.

HEY !!!!! EVERYBODY - IF YOU FEEL LIKE YOUR BEING SCREWED OVER BY THE MASTERNODE YOU OWN - MOVE YOUR DRK TO A DIFFERENT SERVER - THEN WHEN EVERYBODY MOVES TO THAT "COUNTRY SERVER"  ---  OH WOW !!  - - WHY AM I GETTING SCREWED AGAIN???

Some people have no fucking clue what it means to be Statistical.

You found and bought your home - LIVE IN IT !!!

It will all work it's self out in the end....... sure the fuck not next week you vultures - but give it a few months/years - - -

DAMNIT MAN !!!!

Calm down. Breath in, Breath out.
Two people noticed what may seem as a disparity in distribution of rewards, have politely brought the topic, that is all. If you do not look at the results or source code and instead present your agitated opinion you are not really helping anyone.
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July 13, 2014, 08:25:28 AM
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Always said advances in technology, the price has dropped, RC3 RC4 RC5 ........... feeling is to wait to die
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July 13, 2014, 08:26:18 AM
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Can we get an updated node list?

I am adding them to my .conf and I found some from the original thread:

addnode=23.23.186.131
addnode=50.16.206.102
addnode=50.19.116.123
addnode=98.165.130.67
addnode=54.242.50.205
addnode=50.17.98.53
addnode=54.225.43.37

However, seems like only 4 of them work now. Any sort of node list out there?
These lists are not needed anymore, as darkcoin uses dnsseed since 0.9.11.6

If you still want to have a list of reliable nodes use
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dig +short dnsseed.darkcoin.qa
or
Code:
nslookup dnsseed.darkcoin.qa
You will always get a "fresh" list :-)
That dnsseed business doesn't work worth a crap behind socks5 proxy... I run a darkcoin.conf with only that first addnode entry and instaconnect...

Really doesn't make sense. That's just how it is...
Where did he mention that he is behind a SOCKS5 proxy?

He asked for a list, i provide the information to generate one.

BTW: If you really want to help in this case: run your node as hidden tor service and provide the

Code:
addnode=fshtfsvnjzt.onion

address to users which ARE behind a SOCKS5 tor proxy.

That's just how it is...

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July 13, 2014, 08:29:22 AM
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Randomly click through the USA MasterNodes, a lot have received up to 15 payments by now, that's with non complying pools.

My Singapore based masternodes are lucky to receive 1 payment, and I've kept them up to date with recent software and they have been up for 5-6 weeks.

Something is up...

If this is a real issue, I'm going to guess that it's due to lag.  Most miners being in the USA, might make it harder for a masternode far away to get noticed for voting?  How could that be fixed?

Maybe this will work itself out when the masternodes choose who gets paid instead of the miners in RC4?

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July 13, 2014, 08:36:21 AM
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1) Darkcoin has a 50% instamine by it's own developers during launch, as the block reward was set to 500, and there was no windows wallets/miners. Evan, the developer, and Internetape, the other developer, instamined over 1million Darkcoin's within 24 hours.

There were hundreds of miners at the start. Fast mining means fast distribution. Fast mined coins from the start were distributed very early, you could've bought 100k coins for 2 BTC weeks after the launch, sorry you missed it.


2) Darkcoin's name itself, Darkcoin, will always be affiliated with illegal activity like the Darkweb, Drugs, etc, and the name itself ensures that Darkcoin will never reach anything close to mainstream acceptance.

Never say never. Just makes you look like... dunno, troll with an agenda? Btw if that really would become an insurmountable obstacle, name could always be changed! It's one of the easiest things to change on a coin.


3) Darkcoin's "anonymity" is based on coinjoin, it simply mixes users coins around, making it harder to track it. However, if even the slightest taint if found when mixing the coins, an investigator will be able to deduce who sent what and who received what. The maker of coinjoin, Gmaxwell, deeply criticized Darkcoin since it's coinjoin based "anonymity" is basically a joke.

Gmaxwell didn't know how Darksend (and even less how Darksend+) really worked at the time, and we didn't expect him to. That didn't prevent him from giving his opinion though. Make of that what you will. When you say "if even the slightest taint is found, an investigator will be able to deduce who sent what and who received what", how do you know it's possible to find "taint", and if it is, it follows that the whole transaction can be deanonymized? Please elaborate.


4) Darkcoin's mixing system/coinjoin relies on something called Masternodes, Masternodes are nodes that are set up by people, anyone can set one up, and Masternodes are the things that mix the coin around. Masternodes also present many risks besides giving trivial "anonymity", if all masternodes are owned by one individual, he will be able to "de-anonymize" Darkcoin and see all transactions clearly.

No, anyone can't set one up. You need 1000 DRK's for it. Therefore one individual can't own all masternodes. Think about what would happen if someone started buying up all the coins so no one else could set up a node. Can you, think?


5) Darkcoin's Masternode Payment system has forked the network many times, and has failed Twice in the effort to pay the owners of Masternodes.

Evolution is challenging, and everyone who tries to do something more than adding new wallet features will face those challenges. Luckily a method called "sporking" has been invented (by who else than the DRK dev btw) that will overcome those challenges.


6) Darkcoin's Masternode/Darksend system is closed source, so that means the developers could be stealing coins, or doing any other malicious things, and it will remain unnoticed

If they were stealing, people would notice. They really would. No such reports yet. Source will be opened after it has been reviewed by 3rd parties and possible bugs/issues found have been solved.


7) The Masternodes can always be DDOSed, effectively shutting them down, if the majority of Masternodes were taken offline(they are mostly hosted on Amazon servers), then Darkcoin's trivial anonymity will completely shut off

There will be 1000+ masternodes very soon. Probably 2000+ when/if this thing hits "mainstream". Many of those nodes have DOS protection, and if your node is DOS'ed, you can set up a new one very quickly on another host. Btw, you keep saying DRK has trivial anonymity. We don't even know what Darksend will ultimately be. And even now, DRK is for all practical purposes, anonymous. I'd say your thinking and logic is 1st level and trivial in nature.


Cool There are many many other flaws, it will take up too much space to list, so I've listed the main ones.

Looks like the "main" ones are not really flaws after all.
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July 13, 2014, 08:36:50 AM
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Randomly click through the USA MasterNodes, a lot have received up to 15 payments by now, that's with non complying pools.

My Singapore based masternodes are lucky to receive 1 payment, and I've kept them up to date with recent software and they have been up for 5-6 weeks.

Something is up...

If this is a real issue, I'm going to guess that it's due to lag.  Most miners being in the USA, might make it harder for a masternode far away to get noticed for voting?  How could that be fixed?

Maybe this will work out better when the masternodes choose who gets paid instead of the miners in RC4?

Thanks, the lag theory would explain better avg results for US. Yep, after the RC4 it should not matter anymore Smiley
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July 13, 2014, 08:46:18 AM
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Tell ya what - - I'm gonna go back to lurking
Keep my shit to myself
Some of you fucks can bitch back and forth like the fucking idiots you've been
Cheers to the DEVs and of course Evan......
It is what it is.......
I will return to my DRK ways..........hidden.......
Being alone just means that nobody can disappoint you......
PM's later.............

As always, thank you for your valuable contributions to the threat and telling us tiny apes what a great big pic visionary you are.
In the meantime we will tremble with the excitement over your next arrival  Kiss
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July 13, 2014, 08:52:17 AM
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Tell ya what - - I'm gonna go back to lurking

Keep my shit to myself

Some of you fucks can bitch back and forth like the fucking idiots you've been


Cheers to the DEVs and of course Evan......

It is what it is.......


I will return to my DRK ways..........hidden.......


Being alone just means that nobody can disappoint you......


PM's later.............



Take it easy dude, I'm sorry if I offended you...

I'm not worried about it that much, perhaps I came across like I was greedy, merely pointing out an observation...  But someone has already pointed out that there may be a different way to choose nodes for RC4, which sounds good to me... And it does do a pretty good job of explaining what I'm seeing at the moment...


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July 13, 2014, 08:58:34 AM
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Tell ya what - - I'm gonna go back to lurking
Keep my shit to myself
Some of you fucks can bitch back and forth like the fucking idiots you've been
Cheers to the DEVs and of course Evan......
It is what it is.......
I will return to my DRK ways..........hidden.......
Being alone just means that nobody can disappoint you......
PM's later.............

Take it easy dude, I'm sorry if I offended you...

I'm not worried about it that much, perhaps I came across like I was greedy, merely pointing out an observation...  But someone has already pointed out that there may be a different way to choose nodes for RC4, which sounds good to me... And it does do a pretty good job of explaining what I'm seeing at the moment...

No need to say sorry... just got a nice PM from him:
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fuck you and your newbie status

These self-proclaimed strong-handed online machos are a real detriment to this forum.
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July 13, 2014, 09:14:51 AM
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Not sure about this lag theory. The masternode IPs are kept on a list afaik -- so I don't know why being far from the mining node would be a problem. Guess something could be "timing out" for the far away nodes causing them to not be elected...

Dunno, lag just seems like a odd problem. Solution is to bother Evan about it or wait will RC4 where masternodes are selected by other masternodes rather than miners.
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July 13, 2014, 09:15:53 AM
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I'd keep your Mnode right where it is
- about the time you move
- you could have been paid

We need people WORLD-WIDE and not where they think they should be.

The States has no better chance of being paid then any other country.

KEEP ON KEEP'n on mate....

Carry it thru.....

Randomly click through the USA MasterNodes, a lot have received up to 15 payments by now, that's with non complying pools.

My Singapore based masternodes are lucky to receive 1 payment, and I've kept them up to date with recent software and they have been up for 5-6 weeks.

Something is up...


Since there are a lot more MN in the USA you will find a lot more USA MN with statistical high payments. There are also a lot USA MN with low payments.

I skimed through

https://elbzo.net/masternodes.html

and I can't detect a country imbalance just by looking through it haveing the expected payment distribution statistic in mind. I guess you would have to compile the data to really be able to tell.

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I shouldn't say that but if you really have low payments it might help to restart your MN afew times.

When the MN payment started I got a long time no payments and brand new MN got good payments right from the start.
After days when I had to restart my MN a few times for maintenance the payments started to come in as they should have from the beginning. I am still below 10 thought.

It might be that a rebroadcasting might have helped to get the MN better known again to the others although I fail I a bit to see how because to my logic all MN
should have the complete MN LIST already all the time. Or it might have just be a coincidence.

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there was byway one singapore node leading the payment list in the first days.

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July 13, 2014, 09:16:42 AM
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When is RC4 comming out?

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July 13, 2014, 09:18:31 AM
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If I have a 1Gbit line in europe I don't really think that would be an issue.

If it is even relevant at all?

The time out is not measured in a few m.secs is it?
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July 13, 2014, 09:24:22 AM
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When is RC4 comming out?



End of this month.
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July 13, 2014, 09:24:53 AM
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Not sure about this lag theory. The masternode IPs are kept on a list afaik -- so I don't know why being far from the mining node would be a problem. Guess something could be "timing out" for the far away nodes causing them to not be elected...

Dunno just seems like a odd problem. Solution is to bother Evan about it or wait will RC4 where masternodes are selected by other masternodes rather than miners.

I find it odd but would not bother Evan about it now when RC4 is coming soon.
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