[ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency

[Icebucket]

found this, seams so appropriate 

[shojayxt]

In all seriousness, AFAIK the only other provably anon, trustless coins are bytecoin clones and those have bloat issues. Is there actual proof of anything else?  Or are we just talking about trusted mixers and vaporware?

And cryptonote coins are true P2P.  No masternode network required.  But they have been taking a hit as well.  I don't think that anonymity is as big of a deal to the majority of people as it is to the diehard DRK'rs.  It was just the latest fad.  Mainstream commercial adoption where the money is doesn't care about anonymity.  DRK may very well be the best anonymous coin one day but it will still only occupy a small niche market.

Also, progress is being made on the bloat issue and one cryptonote coin is already doing some pruning of the blockchain.

[Ignition75]

He doesn't have 20k, because people with 20k don't go around announcing their intention to dump.

Some LTC n00b watching his steam credit go from 8 hours to 4...

People who need to talk about their "Fat Stacks" normally have the smallest stacks...

[innergy]

Am I doing something wrong?
Win7 x64, unlocked wallet, client 0.10.12.29, total balance 313.62... , darksend enabled, coins to be anonymized 13, round 1

.. and I'm getting this at the end of the debug:

2014-08-15 15:49:13 DoAutomaticDenominating : No funds detected in need of denominating (2)
2014-08-15 15:49:16 AcceptToMemoryPool: 199.175.55.159:9999 /Satoshi:0.10.12.27/ : accepted 5e32c57c9a786ac0257749433131b3bbbc10c2c9f70719f75e01cd9c86950601 (poolsz 1)
2014-08-15 15:49:25 CDarkSendPool::CheckTimeout() : REMOVING EXPIRED QUEUE ENTRY - 0

darkSend => Idle and nothing happen..

2014-08-15 16:01:23 DoAutomaticDenominating : No funds detected in need of denominating (2)
2014-08-15 16:01:25 CDarkSendPool::CheckTimeout() : REMOVING EXPIRED QUEUE ENTRY - 0
2014-08-15 16:01:51 AcceptToMemoryPool: 94.23.158.91:9999 /Satoshi:0.10.12.29/ : accepted 79f72fe66097664671b5205a27426886d97bf0338a16c83b1fea6071371709ab (poolsz

[bigrcanada]

GOING TO UNLOAD A BAG OF 20K DARK

so get ready to accumulate my shit...

Thats awesome!  Happy investing elsewhere and i wish you all the best.

[O_Omaha]

I am sure that xc and shadowcoin already have this and cloakcoin posa is out of beta in a day or 2.  
masternode server is to much overhead and will fail in the future. investors get tired of fees. trust me on this ok.
it seem like cloak take the lead in develop marketplace from scratch. this is good as it will work well as a finish product.

 i donot think shadowcoin or xc have marketplace.

Stop talking nonsense. XC is useless and bad, stop bagholding it.
No coin has something like Darksend.
What kind of fees exactly? The fees for anonymity are minimum.

I do not hold xc or cloakcoins.

i just stae my opinion on masternode servers. as a neutral investor looking in at these technolgy, i can say that masternode server is like dinosaur when compare to other anon solutions.

Is like 1995 bagphone, compare to iphone5.  The fees are very much and when investor use the drkcoin for anon,  then fees will pile up and make it hard for investor to use drkcoins. then investor will use another coin. who is first at building anon matters none. building anon that work and people can afford to use and will use in future is the goal.

I simply say that much better solution is scrap this system and rebuild it now before investor realize and dump coin.

[Equate]

He doesn't have 20k, because people with 20k don't go around announcing their intention to dump.

Some LTC n00b watching his steam credit go from 8 hours to 4...

People who need to talk about their "Fat Stacks" normally have the smallest stacks...

Is somebody wants to dump 20k , he would be only dumb  to announce his dump, let the price fall and sell at cheaper rate.

[qwizzie]

556 MN updated .. less then 300 to go.
http://drk.poolhash.org/masternode.html

[Brilliantrocket]

Except that every coin has fees. Even the CN coins are obligated to charge fees (higher than Bitcoin) to prevent transaction spam attacks. There are no frictionless systems. You're welcome to go back to wire transfers. Enjoy your $50 fees and 5-7 business day transaction times.

[Ozziecoin]

In all seriousness, AFAIK the only other provably anon, trustless coins are bytecoin clones and those have bloat issues. Is there actual proof of anything else?  Or are we just talking about trusted mixers and vaporware?

And cryptonote coins are true P2P.  No masternode network required.  But they have been taking a hit as well.  I don't think that anonymity is as big of a deal to the majority of people as it is to the diehard DRK'rs.  It was just the latest fad.  Mainstream commercial adoption where the money is doesn't care about anonymity.  DRK may very well be the best anonymous coin one day but it will still only occupy a small niche market.

Also, progress is being made on the bloat issue and one cryptonote coin is already doing some pruning of the blockchain.

Shojayxt, I'm so terribly dissapointed you've turned into a pumper. C'mon u know drk works. Cryptonotes are now doa. They don't have Btc compatibility.

[Kai Proctor]

Don't bother, just dump them already. I know people who will gladly accept all your coins   Bye !!

[Jesse Livermore]

So I was trying to figure out my 'line in the sand' for a support level that, if broken, I would have to finally take my long-term DRK profits. And I realized the long-term DRK chart looked very very familiar...
I introduce you to a fractal. Bitcoin has gone through many of these already. They're one of the coolest (because they can be ridiculously accurate) and sometimes scariest (because they can stop being accurate and all hell can break loose) phenomenons that occurs naturally in the environment and in stocks/bonds/currencies/etc.

Essentially, the April to August price and volume action has copied the April 21-May 3 timeframe. Personally, in my all my years of working in investments I've seen many price fractals but never seen price with volume fractals.
And coincidentally enough, other chart methods I use (unrelated to the fractal) tell me to make my line in the sand at the high (.00555) from that April 21-May 3 timeframe. Hopefully this fractal continues to bear fruit and we're really in that May 3-4 region and DRK takes off here soon in a huge way again with volume.
We'll see..

JL

[bigrcanada]

GOING TO UNLOAD A BAG OF 20K DARK

That is the best news yet... 20k doesnt impress some if us here.  So dump away bro... we are ready to buy .

The trick to making money...  is making money when the market falls or rises.... in this case when someone does something stupid like announcing his hand to the world(think poker here folks)  his a moron or he is trying shake more  weak people to freak out and sell.... NO investor states their strategy on a bear  market... but hey... he wants us to  know he watns to dump 54k now of dark... and now all the sharks are smelling his blood.  that is the most ridiculous dumping strategy ive ever heard in the 2 decades ive been trading.... lol

[raleit2014]

So I was trying to figure out my 'line in the sand' for a support level that, if broken, I would have to finally take my long-term DRK profits. And I realized the long-term DRK chart looked very very familiar...
I introduce you to a fractal. Bitcoin has gone through many of these already. They're one of the coolest (because they can be ridiculously accurate) and sometimes scariest (because they can stop being accurate and all hell can break loose) phenomenons that occurs naturally in the environment and in stocks/bonds/currencies/etc.

Essentially, the April to August price and volume action has copied the April 21-May 3 timeframe. Personally, in my all my years of working in investments I've seen many price fractals but never seen price with volume fractals.
And coincidentally enough, other chart methods I use (unrelated to the fractal) tell me to make my line in the sand at the high (.00555) from that April 21-May 3 timeframe. Hopefully this fractal continues to bear fruit and we're really in that May 3-4 region and DRK takes off here soon in a huge way again with volume.
We'll see..

JL

The 30 day support level was .0074 BTC

[shojayxt]

You need to learn some shit retard... XC has full TRUSTLESS ANNON they actually beat you to it... CLOAK has FULL annon but it isnt trustless... YET..block escrow is added in to PoSA this week.. Get ur fucking head out of ur ass an at least recognize the competition out there has either caught up or surpassed your coin... This is why DRK looks like KOOL-AID drinkers to the rest of the world cause you even deny FACTS... dont believe it download a wallet from either.. send a transaction... link it back to sender..

Ladies and Gents, I introduce you to Shojayxt's partner in crime, Pookielax.  The two of them used to work exchange chat boxes discrediting DRK with every breath they had.

Where is your other partner in crime, LingLing or FingFing?  I forget their name...

You know what?  I've been trying to be nice and then you come along waving your DRK pom poms trying to make excuses for everything going wrong.  

You are nothing more than a blatant liar and you know it.  I never worked the exchange trollboxes.  I have made comments that didn't put DRK in the best light but for you to come here and say that I was working in concert with others to discredit DRK is nothing but a bunch of ignorant bullshit and you know it.  

You know what?  My comments have likely saved people money while your ignorant cheerleading hype has probably caused people to make a bad investment.  

Darkcoins problems have nothing to do with me or anything I may have posted here or in some trollbox somewhere.  Darkcoins problems come from ignorant people like you hyping the coin to unobtainable expectations and updates that have been either failures or extremely problematic.  You and your clown posse are the reason for darkcoins price decline.  You hyped and hyped for months.  Well people have had enough of you and your kind.  They don't believe you or any of the hype you're pushing anymore.  YOU and your ignorance are the reason that Darkcoin has fallen out of favor.  If people like you would have kept your mouths shut and attacked anyone and everyone that wasn't drinking your koolaid maybe things would be different.  What you've done is alienate a large percentage of the altcoin community with your aggressive attacks.  Now nobody cares about you and your coin.  There will be no sympathy forthcoming from the altcoin community.  In fact I imagine there are many people quietly smirking in the background.  Karma's a bitch isn't it.

[MasterMined710]

1. Is this 100% trustless like cloakcoin annontec?

2. I hear nodes can be compromized if u have enough nodes? There is sooo much FUD going on so its hard to keep track..

3. Cloakcoin Is already building Onemarket (like ebay fully decentralized)

1. yes darkcoin is trustless but cloakcoin is not. it was supposed to be but coins can be stolen. they are working on fixing it in posa v2. they are where xc was a few months ago.

2. Darkcoin's Approach to Anonymity is Truly Trustless and Opens Endless Possibilities
Up to eight masternodes will be involved in the process of anonymizing the coins of any given user. This means the system will be completely trustless because the risk of someone controlling all involved masternodes will be negligible. In a scenario with 700 masternodes, which is slightly less than the current number, there is only one chance in 1.3 trillion for someone with twenty five masternodes (an investment of around 160,000 usd at today's price 7-27-14) to control the eight involved ones and trace the transaction.
http://letstalkbitcoin.com/blog/post/darkcoins-approach-to-anonymity-is-truly-trustless-and-opens-endless-possibilities

3. Darkcoin Is already working on integrating with Open Bazaar (like ebay fully decentralized) (like Onemarket on steroids)

1. I am sure that xc and shadowcoin already have this and cloakcoin posa is out of beta in a day or 2.  

2. masternode server is to much overhead and will fail in the future. investors get tired of fees. trust me on this ok.

3. it seem like cloak take the lead in develop marketplace from scratch. this is good as it will work well as a finish product.

4. i donot think shadowcoin or xc have marketplace.

1. you sure huh?

2. masternode overhead is free at amazon for one year. other providers are $5-$10+ a month. so, not an issue.

3. no one will use it compared to something like openbazzar.

4. see above

good luck with your cloakcoins though.

[sdef2]

New article where DRK is mentioned:

http://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/news/weekly-altcoin-update-stellar-price-volatility-darkcoins-major-anonymity-update-viacoins-clearinghouse-launch/2014/08/15

[shojayxt]

dump right now 20k of dark no need for shit promises about anonymity...if you cannot deliver the product you intend to serve to people dont say much words...

ok... that is great news... everyone listen up 20k of dark coming down the pipe and about  to be dumped ... get your btc's ready... and im. throwing my fiat to btc right now.... let us know when sir.

If everyone was buying cheap DRK's like they say then the price wouldn't keep going down.  Most of those people saying "More cheap Darks" are not buying and they know it.  You might be scooping up some cheap coins but you're not going to lift this market alone.  

The problem right now is that most of the people hyping DRK the most are already 100% invested in DRK and have no btc to buy more.  

[salmion]

Your opinions are fud and annoying

As an "investor" maybe you should look at all those other bitcoin based anoncoins and find out if their methods are being reviewed. They can promise the world, how anon their solutions are is unknown. How secure their networks are from attack. Unknown.

Dark is being reviewed by kristov atlas. The transaction fees to denominate your coins keep the network safe. And speed up the transactions required. The masternode fees are to pay masternode operators for putting 1000 dark on hold to support the system. The system is designed with security and longevity in mind.

Make your choice(s) but kindly stop the I'm just offering fud as a "neutral concerned investor" bullshit.

[O_Omaha]

You need to learn some shit retard... XC has full TRUSTLESS ANNON they actually beat you to it... CLOAK has FULL annon but it isnt trustless... YET..block escrow is added in to PoSA this week.. Get ur fucking head out of ur ass an at least recognize the competition out there has either caught up or surpassed your coin... This is why DRK looks like KOOL-AID drinkers to the rest of the world cause you even deny FACTS... dont believe it download a wallet from either.. send a transaction... link it back to sender..

Ladies and Gents, I introduce you to Shojayxt's partner in crime, Pookielax.  The two of them used to work exchange chat boxes discrediting DRK with every breath they had.

Where is your other partner in crime, LingLing or FingFing?  I forget their name...

You know what?  I've been trying to be nice and then you come along waving your DRK pom poms trying to make excuses for everything going wrong.  

You are nothing more than a blatant liar and you know it.  I never worked the exchange trollboxes.  I have made comments that didn't put DRK in the best light but for you to come here and say that I was working in concert with others to discredit DRK is nothing but a bunch of ignorant bullshit and you know it.  

You know what?  My comments have likely saved people money while your ignorant cheerleading hype has probably caused people to make a bad investment.  

Darkcoins problems have nothing to do with me or anything I may have posted here or in some trollbox somewhere.  Darkcoins problems come from ignorant people like you hyping the coin to unobtainable expectations and updates that have been either failures or extremely problematic.  You and your clown posse are the reason for darkcoins price decline.  You hyped and hyped for months.  Well people have had enough of you and your kind.  They don't believe you or any of the hype you're pushing anymore.  YOU and your ignorance are the reason that Darkcoin has fallen out of favor.  If people like you would have kept your mouths shut and attacked anyone and everyone that wasn't drinking your koolaid maybe things would be different.  What you've done is alienate a large percentage of the altcoin community with your aggressive attacks.  Now nobody cares about you and your coin.  There will be no sympathy forthcoming from the altcoin community.  In fact I imagine there are many people quietly smirking in the background.  Karma's a bitch isn't it.

I do not know if shojay is a troll. he is speak truth about ingintion75, I see him spread fud and lies on many other coin. He work hard to kill other coin and make darkcoin strong. sometime it reurn to you. so in future you should not do these things ok?

please forgive my broken english.