nsimmons
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August 19, 2014, 07:05:55 PM |
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No seriously guys there is no strong buy support. Look at whats happening now.
I have a buy at 0.0034
Quantify buy support? What signal are you looking for? macd positive on 6hr now, rsi > 30 on 1d. What do you use?
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Brilliantrocket
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August 19, 2014, 07:06:44 PM |
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It's not a conspiracy to suggest that there are backdoors in computer hardware. It's a fact and we've known about it for a while.
His link has "possibly" in the fuckin title. There is no ANON currency yet including DRK even without the thought of the NSA! Not one currency has had a third party confirm anonymity. If that was the case we would have a gold standard crypto right now. But we don't. But I digress. How will darktor handle exit nodes so people don't get arrested? The update literally was just bugs and this new idea to setup tor on the masternodes. All words of nothingness. The financial incentive means that there will always be nodes, regardless of what governments do. Look at all the torrent sites if you want evidence. It's impossible to take down all of them.
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Freckleg
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August 19, 2014, 07:06:53 PM |
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No seriously guys there is no strong buy support. Look at whats happening now.
I have a buy at 0.0034
Good luck with that one my dear Troll
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qwizzie
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August 19, 2014, 07:07:03 PM |
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Learn from the past, set detailed and vivid goals for the future and live in the only moment of time over which you have any control : now
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erok
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August 19, 2014, 07:08:02 PM |
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It's not a conspiracy to suggest that there are backdoors in computer hardware. It's a fact and we've known about it for a while.
His link has "possibly" in the fuckin title. There is no ANON currency yet including DRK even without the thought of the NSA! Not one currency has had a third party confirm anonymity. If that was the case we would have a gold standard crypto right now. But we don't. But I digress. How will darktor handle exit nodes so people don't get arrested? The update literally was just bugs and this new idea to setup tor on the masternodes. All words of nothingness. The financial incentive means that there will always be nodes, regardless of what governments do. Look at all the torrent sites if you want evidence. It's impossible to take down all of them. That has nothing to do with what I am asking.
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"the destruction of privacy widens the existing power imbalance between the ruling factions and everyone else" -- Julian Assange
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Jesse Livermore
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August 19, 2014, 07:09:08 PM |
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Rocketship if we get back above .0055. JL
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I own a DASH Masternode.... And you should too.
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dotnetmin
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August 19, 2014, 07:11:41 PM |
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I am new here and want to congratulate DRK
Looks like we have a new friend in our community
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Toninho
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August 19, 2014, 07:11:44 PM |
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Rocketship if we get back above .0055. JL
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sharkbyte093
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August 19, 2014, 07:12:32 PM |
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It's not a conspiracy to suggest that there are backdoors in computer hardware. It's a fact and we've known about it for a while.
His link has "possibly" in the fuckin title. There is no ANON currency yet including DRK even without the thought of the NSA! Not one currency has had a third party confirm anonymity. If that was the case we would have a gold standard crypto right now. But we don't. But I digress. How will darktor handle exit nodes so people don't get arrested? The update literally was just bugs and this new idea to setup tor on the masternodes. All words of nothingness. Has anyone ever been sued or prosecuted for running Tor?
No, we aren't aware of anyone being sued or prosecuted in the United States just for running a Tor relay. Further, we believe that running a Tor relay — including an exit relay that allows people to anonymously send and receive traffic — is legal under U.S. law. Source: Tor Project https://www.torproject.org/eff/tor-legal-faqI would suggest there be a dialog for MN operators who don't want to participate in DarkTor when it comes online. Obviously if you are running an exit node, you could possibly draw scrutiny from law enforcement agencies as they see the traffic coming from your IP. In Australia a guy had his house raided because he was running an exit node. It's something Masternode operators will have to ask themselves. Whether or not they want to possibly put themselves out there like that. If the answer to that question is no they should obviously be able to opt out. http://www.zdnet.com/austrian-man-raided-for-operating-tor-exit-node-7000008133/
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erok
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August 19, 2014, 07:13:40 PM |
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I am new here and want to congratulate DRK
Looks like we have a new friend in our community When ignorance reigns life is lost. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=560138.0
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"the destruction of privacy widens the existing power imbalance between the ruling factions and everyone else" -- Julian Assange
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qwizzie
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August 19, 2014, 07:14:06 PM |
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It's not a conspiracy to suggest that there are backdoors in computer hardware. It's a fact and we've known about it for a while.
His link has "possibly" in the fuckin title. There is no ANON currency yet including DRK even without the thought of the NSA! Not one currency has had a third party confirm anonymity. If that was the case we would have a gold standard crypto right now. But we don't. But I digress. How will darktor handle exit nodes so people don't get arrested? The update literally was just bugs and this new idea to setup tor on the masternodes. All words of nothingness. The financial incentive means that there will always be nodes, regardless of what governments do. Look at all the torrent sites if you want evidence. It's impossible to take down all of them. That has nothing to do with what I am asking. interesting posts you made on the ANN Cloak thread : ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F2uNkc9X.jpg&t=665&c=QgatJS3kU9ZeIg) Edit : i'm gonna follow yr own advice and put you on ignore.... over and out.
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Learn from the past, set detailed and vivid goals for the future and live in the only moment of time over which you have any control : now
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erok
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August 19, 2014, 07:15:40 PM |
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It's not a conspiracy to suggest that there are backdoors in computer hardware. It's a fact and we've known about it for a while.
His link has "possibly" in the fuckin title. There is no ANON currency yet including DRK even without the thought of the NSA! Not one currency has had a third party confirm anonymity. If that was the case we would have a gold standard crypto right now. But we don't. But I digress. How will darktor handle exit nodes so people don't get arrested? The update literally was just bugs and this new idea to setup tor on the masternodes. All words of nothingness. Has anyone ever been sued or prosecuted for running Tor?
No, we aren't aware of anyone being sued or prosecuted in the United States just for running a Tor relay. Further, we believe that running a Tor relay — including an exit relay that allows people to anonymously send and receive traffic — is legal under U.S. law. Source: Tor Project https://www.torproject.org/eff/tor-legal-faq http://resources.infosecinstitute.com/good-tor-2014/https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121130/07495221185/tor-exit-node-operator-charged-with-distributing-child-porn.shtml
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Freckleg
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August 19, 2014, 07:16:56 PM |
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Guys we have an ignore button for Trolls coming from the coin that failed its audit, cloak coin
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Kyune
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August 19, 2014, 07:20:31 PM |
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We’re very interested to get the community’s response to see if it’s viable . I do have concerns about viability of the DarkTor concept. TOR exit nodes face some challenging liability issues because of the statistical likelihood they will output illegal content at some point (see discussion at https://www.torproject.org/eff/tor-legal-faq). For that reason many TOR node operators choose to only operate relay nodes. If the proposal here is to essentially turn every masternode into a potential TOR exit node (when its turn comes up in some deterministic algorithm), I think that could present new and challenging new legal risks for DRK's masternode operators AND the providers that host them, at least in many jurisdictions.
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sharkbyte093
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August 19, 2014, 07:20:52 PM |
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Yep. Refer to my updated post you quoted me before I finished editing.
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Freckleg
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August 19, 2014, 07:21:04 PM |
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Tor and legality:
- if the provider (exit node owner) has no control over data send through his node and he is not snooping data in any way there is no responsibility for the data handled. This is exactly what Master Node Tor will look like.
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sharkbyte093
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August 19, 2014, 07:23:09 PM |
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Tor and legality:
- if the provider (exit node owner) has no control over data send through his node and he is not snooping data in any way there is no responsibility for the data handled. This is exactly what Master Node Tor will look like.
Yes this is the law theory, yet still you have incidents like what happened in Australia where the cops essentially raided a guys home with a SWAT team because he was running a Tor exit relay. I'm struggling to find cases in the USA where people were arrested for operating Tor nodes. There must be at least one, maybe a test case?
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erok
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August 19, 2014, 07:25:28 PM |
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We’re very interested to get the community’s response to see if it’s viable . I do have concerns about viability of the DarkTor concept. TOR exit nodes face some challenging liability issues because of the statistical likelihood they will output illegal content at some point (see discussion at https://www.torproject.org/eff/tor-legal-faq). For that reason many TOR node operators choose to only operate relay nodes. If the proposal here is to essentially turn every masternode into a potential TOR exit node (when its turn comes up in some deterministic algorithm), I think that could present new and challenging new legal risks for DRK's masternode operators AND the providers that host them, at least in many jurisdictions. THANK YOU. Call me a troll, you haven't seen me troll. I'm legitimately asking questions here not saying fake buy points or "DUMP DUMP DUMP".
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Drobek
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August 19, 2014, 07:26:35 PM |
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Tor and legality:
- if the provider (exit node owner) has no control over data send through his node and he is not snooping data in any way there is no responsibility for the data handled. This is exactly what Master Node Tor will look like.
Yes this is the law theory, yet still you have incidents like what happened in Australia where the cops essentially raided a guys home with a SWAT team because he was running a Tor exit relay. I'm struggling to find cases in the USA where people were arrested for operating Tor nodes. There must be at least one, maybe a test case? Raided the house because they thought he was the provider of child abuse material.. They will not do the same mistake twice ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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sharkbyte093
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August 19, 2014, 07:27:16 PM |
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We’re very interested to get the community’s response to see if it’s viable . I do have concerns about viability of the DarkTor concept. TOR exit nodes face some challenging liability issues because of the statistical likelihood they will output illegal content at some point (see discussion at https://www.torproject.org/eff/tor-legal-faq). For that reason many TOR node operators choose to only operate relay nodes. If the proposal here is to essentially turn every masternode into a potential TOR exit node (when its turn comes up in some deterministic algorithm), I think that could present new and challenging new legal risks for DRK's masternode operators AND the providers that host them, at least in many jurisdictions. THANK YOU. Call me a troll, you haven't seen me troll. I'm legitimately asking questions here not saying fake buy points or "DUMP DUMP DUMP". There needs to be a dialog for Masternode owners to opt-out obviously. Some people are not going to be comfortable running a Tor node, or at least an exit node.
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