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[shojayxt]

For the people in this thread that were interested, I've made some progress. New stats (270X, 280X, 7950, and 290X):

Code:

Idle: 105W
Stock SGMiner 5 power draw: 780W
Modded SGMiner 5 power draw: 910W
Difference in power draw: +16.66%
Stock hash: 16.80MH/s
Modded hash: 23.75MH/s
Difference in hashrate: +41.37%

Also, the highest hashrates I could achieve, on what cards and with what clocks (nsfw): https://ottrbutt.com/miner/x11localrigwolf-10192014-3.png

Difference in hashrate: +41.37%

Wow  

[doubleredrolex]

Has anyone got their DRK out of Mintpal?  Waiting for two days now.

I got mine yesterday finally. Took about 4 days.

[Gumbork]

Has anyone got their DRK out of Mintpal?  Waiting for two days now.

I got mine yesterday finally. Took about 4 days.

Nice, I though mintpal closed down?

[lobo13hf]

Its officially boys i just got my DRKs after waiting for like a week hopefully damn minpal release for the rest of you guys!

[stonehedge]

Its officially boys i just got my DRKs after waiting for like a week hopefully damn minpal release for the rest of you guys!

You never know, maybe I'll get the +/-1BTC that I had in there although if I do its a nice bonus.  I'm not expecting anything.  I lost the balance during the V2 upgrade.

[shojayxt]

Getting at least one payout a day per Masternode.

Cool

[shojayxt]

At these prices I'll likely setup a couple more nodes.  The price can only go up from here.  Especially with all the things coming out.

[rrodent]

For the people in this thread that were interested, I've made some progress. New stats (270X, 280X, 7950, and 290X):

Code:

Idle: 105W
Stock SGMiner 5 power draw: 780W
Modded SGMiner 5 power draw: 910W
Difference in power draw: +16.66%
Stock hash: 16.80MH/s
Modded hash: 23.75MH/s
Difference in hashrate: +41.37%

Also, the highest hashrates I could achieve, on what cards and with what clocks (nsfw): https://ottrbutt.com/miner/x11localrigwolf-10192014-3.png

For someone that doesn't share the code or supposedly even sell it to people that would pay...  yeah the e-peen is large on this one

what is your goal? to brag? if you have working miner, give it to miners or dont post threads like this... nobody likes when someone has faster miner and dont want to share

No, people from this thread keep asking me - so I posted the info.

I read this thread every day and have been for the last 6 months...  I can't recall anyone here recently asking you about your super secret miners hash rate.  Go brag someplace else where they might give your pre pubescent a** the attention you so desire.  Either contribute or gtfo son.

[thelonecrouton]

or having a dedicated client that continuously loops 8 rounds with sending the fully anon balance to another newly generated wallet address in the wallet and starts the process over.

This is very easy to script, trouble is most people with a few thousand DRK have them in MNs. Plus constant anonymisation incurs charges.

The 1000DRK MN vin can't be used easily as if it gets anonymised, the MN would have no way of verifying it's existence or location any more.

You could create another service category - mixing seeders, that earned something from the block reward to constantly provide mixing partners for other Darksend users... it would have to pay enough to make up for the anonymisation costs, but that wouldn't have to be a lot, plus a bit of profit on top for the operators...? edit: you'd actually only need two of these running, not hundreds...

2 would defeat the purpose of why we have 3 inputs...

2 bot wallets would allow a 3rd human party to anonymise...

[stonehedge]

For the people in this thread that were interested, I've made some progress. New stats (270X, 280X, 7950, and 290X):

Code:

Idle: 105W
Stock SGMiner 5 power draw: 780W
Modded SGMiner 5 power draw: 910W
Difference in power draw: +16.66%
Stock hash: 16.80MH/s
Modded hash: 23.75MH/s
Difference in hashrate: +41.37%

Also, the highest hashrates I could achieve, on what cards and with what clocks (nsfw): https://ottrbutt.com/miner/x11localrigwolf-10192014-3.png

For someone that doesn't share the code or supposedly even sell it to people that would pay...  yeah the e-peen is large on this one

what is your goal? to brag? if you have working miner, give it to miners or dont post threads like this... nobody likes when someone has faster miner and dont want to share

No, people from this thread keep asking me - so I posted the info.

I read this thread every day and have been for the last 6 months...  I can't recall anyone here recently asking you about your super secret miners hash rate.  Go brag someplace else where they might give your pre pubescent a** the attention you so desire.  Either contribute or gtfo son.

I recall several people asking him.  No need to be unpleasant.

[patrolman]

A notion just struck me...

When denominating a large chunk that gets submitted, doesn't get enough entries, gets submitted, doesn't get enough entries... This happens hundreds of times before 3 finally show up... Does the failed entry process give anything away? It happens so much you're pretty much guaranteed to have submitted it to every masternode in the network several times before it actually happens, so couldn't just a single rogue node monitor/track large chunks through this process of repeated submissions?

The presubmission phase is where the client just says "hey, I'd like to mix these denominations here", then the masternode broadcasts a message saying it's accepting more clients. If it gets 3 of those "hey, I'd like to mix" messages, it'll tell those users to submit their actual transactions, inputs+outputs. So the system doesn't reveal any information until the actual mixing is about to happen.

Look at the "dsa" and "dsq" message events in main.cpp for more info.

in theory the anonymization with MN's is great, but i practice it is a pain as it seems
to be so hard to find people to annon with !! can not be there a secure way that a certain amount of DRK
are on the MN network (say 5000 DRK) just flying around the network (not belonging to anybody)
waiting to anonymize with somebody ?
that would make the process definately faster and available all the time !?

I was waiting for about 3 or 4 days to anonymise funds for a masternode and have given up for now because I had to unplug the PC. I only got 1 of 8 rounds completed. With adoption there would no doubt be more coins floating around to be anonymised, but can adoption happen if people can't anonymise their coins? There need to be some incentives in place for people to leave their wallets unlocked and available for mixing.

One basic option available now is for those wanting to anonymise funds to offer to pay for others to make funds available. For example, you could offer 1.5 DRK each to two other parties to leave their wallets open for 24 hours. There's no guarantee that you would be able mix your coins with them if there were others trying to do the same, although if there were so many others trying to do the same thing, it probably wouldn't be necessary in the first place. You could offer to pay half at the beginning, half after, or to use the reputation system offered here or on DarkcoinTalk for example. However, this makes DarkSend more expensive and much more of a hassle.

Another option would be two different types of masternodes. The current masternodes could continue to offer the same service and new type of masternode could leave coins available for mixing as well. This would mean leaving a hot wallet on the masternode I imagine, and as a result is more risky for the masternode owner. Consequently, I think you would have to offer some compensation to these masternode owners, whether it be in the form of a higher ratio of the masternode payments or a discount in the coins required to have a masternode. Maybe the MasterMixerNodes could be required to have only 800 DRK and receive payments as per a normal MasterNode. Or perhaps MasterMixerNodes could be required to have 1000 DRK and receive 3/5 of the masternode payements, and regular MasterNodes perhaps only 700 DRK and receive 2/5 of the payments. Although this would probably be quite difficult because of different quantities of the two types of masternodes. Yet another option would be to require the same quantity of coins for both types of masternodes, but to withhold say 20% of masternode payments to be distributed to the MasterMixerNodes for their increased level of risk. Obviously the reward system would need to be looked at very carefully and it would perhaps be a good opportunity to offer some form of masternodes at a discount. After all, 1000 is not a magic number that is a perfect requirement for a masternode, but an arbitrary - but round - number. If masternodes are going to be used for mixing, I suppose IP obfuscation would be necessary.

TLDR:
The problem with a lack of DarkSend participants should be solved by offering incentives to provide a constant supply of coins available for anonymisation, perhaps by offering two tiers of masternodes.

[rrodent]

For the people in this thread that were interested, I've made some progress. New stats (270X, 280X, 7950, and 290X):

Code:

Idle: 105W
Stock SGMiner 5 power draw: 780W
Modded SGMiner 5 power draw: 910W
Difference in power draw: +16.66%
Stock hash: 16.80MH/s
Modded hash: 23.75MH/s
Difference in hashrate: +41.37%

Also, the highest hashrates I could achieve, on what cards and with what clocks (nsfw): https://ottrbutt.com/miner/x11localrigwolf-10192014-3.png

For someone that doesn't share the code or supposedly even sell it to people that would pay...  yeah the e-peen is large on this one

what is your goal? to brag? if you have working miner, give it to miners or dont post threads like this... nobody likes when someone has faster miner and dont want to share

No, people from this thread keep asking me - so I posted the info.

I read this thread every day and have been for the last 6 months...  I can't recall anyone here recently asking you about your super secret miners hash rate.  Go brag someplace else where they might give your pre pubescent a** the attention you so desire.  Either contribute or gtfo son.

I recall several people asking him.  No need to be unpleasant.

Links or it didn't happen

[aclass]

Another option would be two different types of masternodes. The current masternodes could continue to offer the same service and new type of masternode could leave coins available for mixing as well. This would mean leaving a hot wallet on the masternode I imagine, and as a result is more risky for the masternode owner. Consequently, I think you would have to offer some compensation to these masternode owners, whether it be in the form of a higher ratio of the masternode payments or a discount in the coins required to have a masternode. Maybe the MasterMixerNodes could be required to have only 800 DRK and receive payments as per a normal MasterNode. Or perhaps MasterMixerNodes could be required to have 1000 DRK and receive 3/5 of the masternode payements, and regular MasterNodes perhaps only 700 DRK and receive 2/5 of the payments. Although this would probably be quite difficult because of different quantities of the two types of masternodes. Yet another option would be to require the same quantity of coins for both types of masternodes, but to withhold say 20% of masternode payments to be distributed to the MasterMixerNodes for their increased level of risk. Obviously the reward system would need to be looked at very carefully and it would perhaps be a good opportunity to offer some form of masternodes at a discount. After all, 1000 is not a magic number that is a perfect requirement for a masternode, but an arbitrary - but round - number. If masternodes are going to be used for mixing, I suppose IP obfuscation would be necessary.

TLDR:
The problem with a lack of DarkSend participants should be solved by offering incentives to provide a constant supply of coins available for anonymisation, perhaps by offering two tiers of masternodes.

+1-2-3

Or you could have 2 types of mixing:

1. Free - in which you wait till it's done the usual way
2. Paid - in which you offer some DRK to have it done faster

This will open the doors to paid mixer wallets where ppl leave their wallets available for mixing. Unfortunately this might work the bad way if everyone decides to open their wallets only for paid mixing.

[Rux]

no wolf... we are not full of rage

we all hate when someone come here and BRAG about their miner going like 50% faster than our miners.... and same person dont even put WHAT MINER, WHAT VERSION; CONFIGURATION; ETC.

if you plan to brag, i support that...but after brag you need to SHARE that information,  then you will have our full support

this way, we se you as a wannabe ULTRA-miner/coder who is here only to put salt on our tails

[dotnetmin]

After updating to onyx my MN on chaplins side is all few hours shown as inactive on SV1...SV6.
After masternode start on lokal wallet it is online again.
I happens now 4x. No payments. As i only have one MN i cant copare what others do.

I was having the same problem. Try deleting peers.dat and restart both local and remote. Worked for me.

http://jira.darkcoin.qa/browse/DRK-104

Deleting peers.dat helped

[thelonecrouton]

Onyx stats looking much better on https://drk.mn/blocks.html today, nearly 50% higher earnings for MNs on Onyx vs RC5, Hammerfall in sight!

[ultradar]

Can someone please make a guide with the new way of setting up masternodes without needing to split to different wallets of 1000??

[oblox]

Onyx stats looking much better on https://drk.mn/blocks.html today, nearly 50% higher earnings for MNs on Onyx vs RC5, Hammerfall in sight!

Wait another 12 hours or so and it should creep up higher. Still some pools that are counted in the RC5 count from upgrading late.

[Sapereaude]

What we need is like a weekly Darksend day, something like Darksend Friday where you leave your wallet on all day to anonymize funds. That way until there is sufficient adoption we can all easily find other peers to mix with.

[kiindje]

What we need is like a weekly Darksend day, something like Darksend Friday where you leave your wallet on all day to anonymize funds. That way until there is sufficient adoption we can all easily find other peers to mix with.

thats an awesome idea imo