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December 24, 2014, 02:49:33 PM
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Last thing you should do is change the name, drk is one of the most recognised names in crypto and changing it would be stupid

This way of thinking will get us nowhere. We will always stay in our small crypto world, getting pumped up to 0.007 if we're lucky, being recognized as a drug coin. Sooner or later big holders will start to dump...
With all the possibilities darkcoin has got, we could get to an average Joe. Joe will not touch this coin as long as it has got this reputation.
Dark=shady=illegal. This is what masses will always think.
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December 24, 2014, 02:59:40 PM
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Last thing you should do is change the name, drk is one of the most recognised names in crypto and changing it would be stupid

This way of thinking will get us nowhere. We will always stay in our small crypto world, getting pumped up to 0.007 if we're lucky, being recognized as a drug coin. Sooner or later big holders will start to dump...
With all the possibilities darkcoin has got, we could get to an average Joe. Joe will not touch this coin as long as it has got this reputation.
Dark=shady=illegal. This is what masses will always think.

 The masses dont even use BTC yet. We're getting there.
 Who on earth uses Doge? Its a shibe coin, with "zero" utility, except its niche tipping/donation movement.

 Its not the name, its what people perceive of it that matters. That is why I think its imperative to start associating DRK with legit use. The vast majority of illegal activities use USD.

 we could be called "fluffy legit coin" FLC... and still have a bad rep if majorly used for bad things. Heck, BTC gained momentum primarily because of Silk Road!!!

 Early email was terrorism, child porn, drugs and money fraud FUD.

 All in all I thing Darkcoin is a strong name to for marketing purposes. Unlike Blackcoin for instance.
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December 24, 2014, 03:01:52 PM
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Last thing you should do is change the name, drk is one of the most recognised names in crypto and changing it would be stupid

This way of thinking will get us nowhere. We will always stay in our small crypto world, getting pumped up to 0.007 if we're lucky, being recognized as a drug coin. Sooner or later big holders will start to dump...
With all the possibilities darkcoin has got, we could get to an average Joe. Joe will not touch this coin as long as it has got this reputation.
Dark=shady=illegal. This is what masses will always think.

why am i getting reminded of early bitcoin days when i read yr comment ? I think some of you are too fixated on the name Darkcoin,
avarage Joe will only care about if the coin delivers what it promise to deliver .. which is anonimity and fast transactions in the nearby future.
And who knows what the masses think, its a brand new market which you cant compare with normal markets and which makes
predicting what the masses will think impossible.

edit : i wonder if the blackcoin or greycoin or whatever communities are having similiar discussions ... i have a feeling they are not.

  

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December 24, 2014, 03:12:50 PM
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Last thing you should do is change the name, drk is one of the most recognised names in crypto and changing it would be stupid

This way of thinking will get us nowhere. We will always stay in our small crypto world, getting pumped up to 0.007 if we're lucky, being recognized as a drug coin. Sooner or later big holders will start to dump...
With all the possibilities darkcoin has got, we could get to an average Joe. Joe will not touch this coin as long as it has got this reputation.
Dark=shady=illegal. This is what masses will always think.

 The masses dont even use BTC yet. We're getting there.
 Who on earth uses Doge? Its a shibe coin, with "zero" utility, except its niche tipping/donation movement.

 Its not the name, its what people perceive of it that matters. That is why I think its imperative to start associating DRK with legit use. The vast majority of illegal activities use USD.

 we could be called "fluffy legit coin" FLC... and still have a bad rep is majorly used for bad things. Heck, BTC gained momentum because of Silk Road!!!
Drk has got much bigger possibilities, and with the army of masternodes we have more potential than BTC. Staying with present name we just give additional ammo to the media which will always present us in a bad, shady way.
Changing the name later will be much more difficult than it is now.
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December 24, 2014, 03:15:13 PM
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Last thing you should do is change the name, drk is one of the most recognised names in crypto and changing it would be stupid

This way of thinking will get us nowhere. We will always stay in our small crypto world, getting pumped up to 0.007 if we're lucky, being recognized as a drug coin. Sooner or later big holders will start to dump...
With all the possibilities darkcoin has got, we could get to an average Joe. Joe will not touch this coin as long as it has got this reputation.
Dark=shady=illegal. This is what masses will always think.

 The masses dont even use BTC yet. We're getting there.
 Who on earth uses Doge? Its a shibe coin, with "zero" utility, except its niche tipping/donation movement.

 Its not the name, its what people perceive of it that matters. That is why I think its imperative to start associating DRK with legit use. The vast majority of illegal activities use USD.

 we could be called "fluffy legit coin" FLC... and still have a bad rep is majorly used for bad things. Heck, BTC gained momentum because of Silk Road!!!
Drk has got much bigger possibilities, and with the army of masternodes we have more potential than BTC. Staying with present name we just give additional ammo to the media which will always present us in a bad, shady way.
Changing the name later will be much more difficult than it is now.

 I get 'ya. But there is no such thing as "bad publicity". I only hope the media are all over Darkcoin for all the "bad" reasons. It will only gain traction. Media is all about FUD anyways. If its "good" reasons, 99% of the time its not a story and won't get aired/printed.

As long as the DRK morals stay true to itself, I have absolutely no problem with media propaganda. It would only bring DRK into the radar. And by the way, that already has happened with Fox and Bloomberg, with zero negative repercussion. If anything, lots of new investors showed up.

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December 24, 2014, 03:18:59 PM
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Last thing you should do is change the name, drk is one of the most recognised names in crypto and changing it would be stupid

This way of thinking will get us nowhere. We will always stay in our small crypto world, getting pumped up to 0.007 if we're lucky, being recognized as a drug coin. Sooner or later big holders will start to dump...
With all the possibilities darkcoin has got, we could get to an average Joe. Joe will not touch this coin as long as it has got this reputation.
Dark=shady=illegal. This is what masses will always think.

why am i getting reminded of early bitcoin days when i read yr comment ? I think some of you are too fixated on the name Darkcoin,
avarage Joe will only care about if the coin delivers what it promise to deliver .. which is anonimity and fast transactions in the nearby future.
And who knows what the masses think, its a brand new market which you cant compare with normal markets and which makes
predicting what the masses will think impossible.

edit : i wonder if the blackcoin or greycoin communities are having similiar discussions ... i have a feeling they are not.

  
It's a brand new market which people are leaving already, because of getting scammed and loosing money. Crypto has got a bad reputation already and the present name is not helping.
We cannot think the same way blackcoin or greycoin community do. We should get rid of "coin" thing because Joe will think we are just another coin.
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December 24, 2014, 03:22:50 PM
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Sure. A much better idea, instead of changing the name, is working on DRK's public image: instead of "glorifying" darkmarkets and drugdealers we (the Foundation and the Community) should make periodical campaigns (humanitarian, bla, bla bla...). Image matters a lot more than the name.

I liked a suggestion some pages ago of making aliases, like, funding the young Malala with some MalalaFundWallet (powered by Darkcoin).

Campaigns and propaganda are very healthy for the image...

 

Exactly this. It needs to make a positive use of the dark name e.g.

- sponsor bringing lighting to Africa
- sponsor blindness research
etc etc

team up with the largest light bulb manufacturer, flashlight seller, headlight installer, NGO in Africa bringing electricity, power companies in the USA bringing electricity and light to where ever etc. etc. etc

It needs to get some professional "fluffy and nice" marketing co. behind it or marketing expert. While all good and well the technical details of the coin are superior to everything out there, that is the back end that is of no interest to the general populous.  They need to see the coin in a warm and fuzzy light.

On the middle level team up with something like Alibaba or Alixpress in China touting the virtues of people being able to transact with full anonymity without restriction and their .gov monitoring them, China wherever.

Does not all have to be perceived seedy underworld shenanigans just because of the word dark in the name and the high tech mechanism about its usage.

Never understood why a professional marketing effort has never been put in place.  There are enough people who believe in this coin to be able to come together a raise enough funds together to retain such a marketing operation.  It just seems everyone is sitting around waiting and watching for BTC to do the heavy lifting to bring up DRK along side it every time it sneezes. 2015 needs to see some effort put into this coin and get it out there.

Just my 50,000 DRK  Wink
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December 24, 2014, 03:24:17 PM
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For those of you who havent read it yet i found this very informative (thanks for bringing it to my attention Tao)

DARTNELL ON DRK | What's in a brand name?

https://www.rebelmouse.com/GetIntoTheDark/dartnell-on-drk-whats-in-a-bra-894406153.html



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December 24, 2014, 03:27:58 PM
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Looks like if anyone tried to clever trade drk on the drop they are getting royally screwed now!

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December 24, 2014, 03:30:26 PM
Last edit: December 24, 2014, 03:40:39 PM by qwizzie
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Sure. A much better idea, instead of changing the name, is working on DRK's public image: instead of "glorifying" darkmarkets and drugdealers we (the Foundation and the Community) should make periodical campaigns (humanitarian, bla, bla bla...). Image matters a lot more than the name.

I liked a suggestion some pages ago of making aliases, like, funding the young Malala with some MalalaFundWallet (powered by Darkcoin).

Campaigns and propaganda are very healthy for the image...

 

Exactly this. It needs to make a positive use of the dark name e.g.

- sponsor bringing lighting to Africa
- sponsor blindness research
etc etc

team up with the largest light bulb manufacturer, flashlight seller, headlight installer, NGO in Africa bringing electricity, power companies in the USA bringing electricity and light to where ever etc. etc. etc

It needs to get some professional "fluffy and nice" marketing co. behind it or marketing expert. While all good and well the technical details of the coin are superior to everything out there, that is the back end that is of no interest to the general populous.  They need to see the coin in a warm and fuzzy light.

On the middle level team up with something like Alibaba or Alixpress in China touting the virtues of people being able to transact with full anonymity without restriction and their .gov monitoring them, China wherever.

Does not all have to be perceived seedy underworld shenanigans just because of the word dark in the name and the high tech mechanism about its usage.

Never understood why a professional marketing effort has never been put in place.  There are enough people who believe in this coin to be able to come together a raise enough funds together to retain such a marketing operation.  It just seems everyone is sitting around waiting and watching for BTC to do the heavy lifting to bring up DRK along side it every time it sneezes. 2015 needs to see some effort put into this coin and get it out there.

Just my 50,000 DRK  Wink

i think first they were concentrating on developing Darksend, opensourcing it, squashing bugs that might arise once on Mainnet and then they would move towards the big marketing campaign. But then Evan stumbled upon InstantX which put us firmly back into the development and testing phase.

edit : and maybe they were also waiting for the Darkcoin Foundation to be put into operation first.




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December 24, 2014, 03:54:48 PM
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So I did promise you guys I'd do a written interview with DirectBet.eu about Darkcoin, and here it is :

http://www.cryptoarticles.com/crypto-news/darkcoin-interview-with-directbeteu-community-asks-the-questions

Show some love on social media Wink
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December 24, 2014, 04:16:10 PM
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The price is dropping, but we must be strong!
"be drk"

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December 24, 2014, 04:16:54 PM
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The price is dropping, but we must be strong!
"be drk"

actually the price is rising...

https://bitcoinwisdom.com/markets/bitfinex/drkbtc
https://bitcoinwisdom.com/markets/cryptsy/drkbtc

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December 24, 2014, 04:44:57 PM
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This is also a handy bookmark for your arbitrage pleasures.

http://darkco.in/monitor/
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December 24, 2014, 05:05:23 PM
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yeah, i regnonice the link. i have added it to my favourites before but i keep forgetting to use it somehow. Very handy link ..

thanks.

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December 24, 2014, 05:15:06 PM
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I like the name drk coin. But o be honest, this name isbthe only drawback. If the name something like (Privacy Coin - you Business is not someelses' business) it would have much better chance to survive. In the golden era of internet and cloud, 90% of people have no privacy but they dont realize it.

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My darkcoin address -> XtvnzfFJ7U7S8PHsEnTGAVKreTPmJWZoMv
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December 24, 2014, 05:17:45 PM
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I like the name drk coin. But o be honest, this name isbthe only drawback. If the name something like (Privacy Coin - you Business is not someelses' business) it would have much better chance to survive. In the golden era of internet and cloud, 90% of people have no privacy but they dont realize it.

 If you're serious about privacy, it may even be called Banana Coin, doing proper diligence, name doesnt matter.

 Ok, I'll shut up now.
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December 24, 2014, 05:22:16 PM
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I like the name drk coin. But o be honest, this name isbthe only drawback. If the name something like (Privacy Coin - you Business is not someelses' business) it would have much better chance to survive. In the golden era of internet and cloud, 90% of people have no privacy but they dont realize it.

 If you're serious about privacy, it may even be called Banana Coin, doing proper diligence, name doesnt matter.

 Ok, I'll shut up now.

I dont care the name. I actually love the name Dark Coin. It is a kick Ass name. But I was referring to average Joe who will first think Dark Coin is for Dark matters.

DARK Coin - Next innovation in Cypto world
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December 24, 2014, 05:22:31 PM
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I have an idea about new names

Darling coin,  Darlie coin   Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

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December 24, 2014, 05:24:52 PM
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And you think you have privacy. Watch this -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1qAWGUpqXU

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