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May 01, 2014, 12:10:03 AM
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NXT blockchain pruning does not even have the concept yet. It won't be easy as some claims to be. If blockchain pruning can be done at will, why do bitcoin not have one already ? So I would say do that first before attempting ping pong messaging.

Who said anything can be 'done at will'? That's specious. And how is Bitcoin, an antiquated 1.0 crypto, suddenly the sine qua non of what can and can't be accomplished?

Bitcoin doesn't have the advantage of Nxt or NEM... smaller cryptos can be nimble. We don't have $5+ billion dollars tied to our blockchains (yet!)

We're testing NXTsubatomic crosschain exchanges *today*. NEM and Nxt don't have committees and foundations breathing down our necks. Or miners. Cheesy

Good luck with the "subatomic crosschain". Wink

No luck needed. We're very close.

https://nxtforum.org/index.php?topic=665.msg11906#msg11906

Anything involves James nodecoin would need a great deal of luck to go through.


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May 01, 2014, 12:22:05 AM
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NXT blockchain pruning does not even have the concept yet. It won't be easy as some claims to be. If blockchain pruning can be done at will, why do bitcoin not have one already ? So I would say do that first before attempting ping pong messaging.

Who said anything can be 'done at will'? That's specious. And how is Bitcoin, an antiquated 1.0 crypto, suddenly the sine qua non of what can and can't be accomplished?

Bitcoin doesn't have the advantage of Nxt or NEM... smaller cryptos can be nimble. We don't have $5+ billion dollars tied to our blockchains (yet!)

We're testing NXTsubatomic crosschain exchanges *today*. NEM and Nxt don't have committees and foundations breathing down our necks. Or miners. Cheesy

Good luck with the "subatomic crosschain". Wink

No luck needed. We're very close.

https://nxtforum.org/index.php?topic=665.msg11906#msg11906

Anything involves James nodecoin would need a great deal of luck to go through.

Nodecoin is totally different project. He has been working on a lot of things, but we will find out if he delivers once asset exchange goes live

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May 01, 2014, 12:25:29 AM
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Anything involves James nodecoin would need a great deal of luck to go through.

I've bookmarked this. Care to wager a NEM stake on this? Cheesy

Listen, I understand you're the head of NEM. Respect for you and your team. Somehow, in all the 'fair distribution' talk it's forgotten that CfB, Jean-Luc, CIYAM, James and others are a killer team. We're not waiting on an alpha, or picking out logos -- we're testing features now as I type this.

I wouldn't wager my NEM stake if I wasn't 100% positive. Smiley
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May 01, 2014, 12:38:54 AM
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Anything involves James nodecoin would need a great deal of luck to go through.

I've bookmarked this. Care to wager a NEM stake on this? Cheesy

Listen, I understand you're the head of NEM. Respect for you and your team. Somehow, in all the 'fair distribution' talk it's forgotten that CfB, Jean-Luc, CIYAM, James and others are a killer team. We're not waiting on an alpha, or picking out logos -- we're testing features now as I type this.

I wouldn't wager my NEM stake if I wasn't 100% positive. Smiley

I like that you have trust in the project but I tend to be on the cynical side. Probability wise I would gladly take the bet, however it is not something I care too much about so I will pass.


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May 01, 2014, 12:43:23 AM
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Anything involves James nodecoin would need a great deal of luck to go through.

I've bookmarked this. Care to wager a NEM stake on this? Cheesy

Listen, I understand you're the head of NEM. Respect for you and your team. Somehow, in all the 'fair distribution' talk it's forgotten that CfB, Jean-Luc, CIYAM, James and others are a killer team. We're not waiting on an alpha, or picking out logos -- we're testing features now as I type this.

I wouldn't wager my NEM stake if I wasn't 100% positive. Smiley

I like that you have trust in the project but I tend to be on the cynical side. Probability wise I would gladly take the best, however it is not something I care too much about so I will pass.

And I don't want to put my NEM stake in danger. Smiley

.: bow :.

Some fun reading re: blockchain pruning, mini-blockchains, etc:

http://bitfreak.info/files/pp2p-ccmbc-rev1.pdf
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May 01, 2014, 02:27:49 AM
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Anything involves James nodecoin would need a great deal of luck to go through.

I've bookmarked this. Care to wager a NEM stake on this? Cheesy

Listen, I understand you're the head of NEM. Respect for you and your team. Somehow, in all the 'fair distribution' talk it's forgotten that CfB, Jean-Luc, CIYAM, James and others are a killer team. We're not waiting on an alpha, or picking out logos -- we're testing features now as I type this.

I wouldn't wager my NEM stake if I wasn't 100% positive. Smiley

I like that you have trust in the project but I tend to be on the cynical side. Probability wise I would gladly take the best, however it is not something I care too much about so I will pass.

And I don't want to put my NEM stake in danger. Smiley

.: bow :.

Some fun reading re: blockchain pruning, mini-blockchains, etc:

http://bitfreak.info/files/pp2p-ccmbc-rev1.pdf
thx. indeed fun. Grin Grin

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May 01, 2014, 02:45:59 AM
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What is ping pong messaging?

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May 01, 2014, 03:17:03 AM
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Anything involves James nodecoin would need a great deal of luck to go through.

I've bookmarked this. Care to wager a NEM stake on this? Cheesy

Listen, I understand you're the head of NEM. Respect for you and your team. Somehow, in all the 'fair distribution' talk it's forgotten that CfB, Jean-Luc, CIYAM, James and others are a killer team. We're not waiting on an alpha, or picking out logos -- we're testing features now as I type this.

I wouldn't wager my NEM stake if I wasn't 100% positive. Smiley

Are all those people still involved in NXT? I thought CfB's contract was up. It looks like Jean-Luc and wesley have made all the commits for at least all of April: https://bitbucket.org/JeanLucPicard/nxt/commits/all. Is there another repro where other people are contributing?

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May 01, 2014, 03:28:19 AM
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Anything involves James nodecoin would need a great deal of luck to go through.

I've bookmarked this. Care to wager a NEM stake on this? Cheesy

Listen, I understand you're the head of NEM. Respect for you and your team. Somehow, in all the 'fair distribution' talk it's forgotten that CfB, Jean-Luc, CIYAM, James and others are a killer team. We're not waiting on an alpha, or picking out logos -- we're testing features now as I type this.

I wouldn't wager my NEM stake if I wasn't 100% positive. Smiley

Are all those people still involved in NXT? I thought CfB's contract was up. It looks like Jean-Luc and wesley have made all the commits for at least all of April: https://bitbucket.org/JeanLucPicard/nxt/commits/all. Is there another repro where other people are contributing?

CfB hasn''t left totally. He is still around, and waiting for DGS and asset exchange to finish. CIYAM is of course still working on AT project. James is supposedly "working" on dozens of things, but they don't involve changing nxt core. These are all his own projects. There are many others working on various projects (like android apps, games ( http://www.nox.am/  )  websites ( nxt.org, etc)

Just a proof that CfB hasn't left  https://nxtforum.org/pub-crawl/rfc-project-'jinn'-(processor)/?topicseen

he also promised to do UDP and TF
 

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May 01, 2014, 03:29:41 AM
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Anything involves James nodecoin would need a great deal of luck to go through.

I've bookmarked this. Care to wager a NEM stake on this? Cheesy

Listen, I understand you're the head of NEM. Respect for you and your team. Somehow, in all the 'fair distribution' talk it's forgotten that CfB, Jean-Luc, CIYAM, James and others are a killer team. We're not waiting on an alpha, or picking out logos -- we're testing features now as I type this.

I wouldn't wager my NEM stake if I wasn't 100% positive. Smiley

Are all those people still involved in NXT? I thought CfB's contract was up. It looks like Jean-Luc and wesley have made all the commits for at least all of April: https://bitbucket.org/JeanLucPicard/nxt/commits/all. Is there another repro where other people are contributing?

CfB hasn''t left totally. He is still around, and waiting for DGS and asset exchange to finish. CIYAM is of course still working on AT project. James is supposedly "working" on dozens of things, but they don't involve changing nxt core. These are all his own projects. There are many others working on various projects (like android apps, games ( http://www.nox.am/  )  websites ( nxt.org, etc)

The front page of the game demo does look inviting. I could agree that NXT is still the most exciting alt coin system out there currently.


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May 01, 2014, 04:31:47 AM
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Announcement: On behalf of NEM dev. team I would like to invite qualified candidates to apply for the position of marketing manager for NEM.

Qualifications:
- experiences with crypto currency communities.
- familiarity with marketing strategies of different crypo promoting group including Bitcoin, Doge, Blackcoin, Peercoin, NXT.
- good at English writing for promotional materials.

Requirements:   
- can spend at least 20 hours per week on NEM related promotional tasks.
- can volunteer for NEM related works.
- being a NEM stakeholder is preferable (not necessarily one right now but should be one over the long-term).
- can formulate a long term strategy as well as individual promotional projects for NEM.

Benefit:
- This is not a temporary hire but you will be a member of NEM development team (while we can pay for specific tasks) and can benefit as such. You will work in association with me as well as other NEM core developers in our many future endeavors.

Please send me a P.M describing your relevant experiences and I will contact you for further interviews. This is a very important position for NEM, so I expect the selection process will take sometimes but hopefully we will have the position filled before NEM alpha release.

Please spread it as far as possible where you see fit Smiley
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May 01, 2014, 04:40:05 AM
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Anything involves James nodecoin would need a great deal of luck to go through.

I've bookmarked this. Care to wager a NEM stake on this? Cheesy

Listen, I understand you're the head of NEM. Respect for you and your team. Somehow, in all the 'fair distribution' talk it's forgotten that CfB, Jean-Luc, CIYAM, James and others are a killer team. We're not waiting on an alpha, or picking out logos -- we're testing features now as I type this.

I wouldn't wager my NEM stake if I wasn't 100% positive. Smiley

Are all those people still involved in NXT? I thought CfB's contract was up. It looks like Jean-Luc and wesley have made all the commits for at least all of April: https://bitbucket.org/JeanLucPicard/nxt/commits/all. Is there another repro where other people are contributing?

CfB hasn''t left totally. He is still around, and waiting for DGS and asset exchange to finish. CIYAM is of course still working on AT project. James is supposedly "working" on dozens of things, but they don't involve changing nxt core. These are all his own projects. There are many others working on various projects (like android apps, games ( http://www.nox.am/  )  websites ( nxt.org, etc)

The front page of the game demo does look inviting. I could agree that NXT is still the most exciting alt coin system out there currently.
I don't understand all this tecky stuff / Does this mean that Dodge is more advanced than nxt ?
Looking at if from a market cap stand point it must be true. I hope one day nxt can shake off the dark stigma of unfair distribution and whales but i don't see it happening anytime soon if ever.

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Nxt is the most exciting 'coin' for me, but I'm also pretty excited about NEM.  Overall Nxt and NEM are really the only ones that excite me at all, so far.  I'm a little sceptical about Ethereum...

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Anything involves James nodecoin would need a great deal of luck to go through.

I've bookmarked this. Care to wager a NEM stake on this? Cheesy

Listen, I understand you're the head of NEM. Respect for you and your team. Somehow, in all the 'fair distribution' talk it's forgotten that CfB, Jean-Luc, CIYAM, James and others are a killer team. We're not waiting on an alpha, or picking out logos -- we're testing features now as I type this.

I wouldn't wager my NEM stake if I wasn't 100% positive. Smiley

Are all those people still involved in NXT? I thought CfB's contract was up. It looks like Jean-Luc and wesley have made all the commits for at least all of April: https://bitbucket.org/JeanLucPicard/nxt/commits/all. Is there another repro where other people are contributing?

CfB hasn''t left totally. He is still around, and waiting for DGS and asset exchange to finish. CIYAM is of course still working on AT project. James is supposedly "working" on dozens of things, but they don't involve changing nxt core. These are all his own projects. There are many others working on various projects (like android apps, games ( http://www.nox.am/  )  websites ( nxt.org, etc)

The front page of the game demo does look inviting. I could agree that NXT is still the most exciting alt coin system out there currently.
I don't understand all this tecky stuff / Does this mean that Dodge is more advanced than nxt ?
Looking at if from a market cap stand point it must be true. I hope one day nxt can shake of the dark stigma of unfair distribution and whales but i don't see it happening anytime soon if ever.

Did "whales" hurt bitcoin? 1 person holds 10% of bitcoin and 200 or so have 60%. Same applies to Litecoin and Peeercoin.  In fact, same applies to Nem. The population of the word is 7 billion. So "3000" (if you ignore sock puppets) would be considered "unfair distribution, by the rest of 7 billion.  Your argument is total nonsense.





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Anything involves James nodecoin would need a great deal of luck to go through.

I've bookmarked this. Care to wager a NEM stake on this? Cheesy

Listen, I understand you're the head of NEM. Respect for you and your team. Somehow, in all the 'fair distribution' talk it's forgotten that CfB, Jean-Luc, CIYAM, James and others are a killer team. We're not waiting on an alpha, or picking out logos -- we're testing features now as I type this.

I wouldn't wager my NEM stake if I wasn't 100% positive. Smiley

Are all those people still involved in NXT? I thought CfB's contract was up. It looks like Jean-Luc and wesley have made all the commits for at least all of April: https://bitbucket.org/JeanLucPicard/nxt/commits/all. Is there another repro where other people are contributing?

CfB hasn''t left totally. He is still around, and waiting for DGS and asset exchange to finish. CIYAM is of course still working on AT project. James is supposedly "working" on dozens of things, but they don't involve changing nxt core. These are all his own projects. There are many others working on various projects (like android apps, games ( http://www.nox.am/  )  websites ( nxt.org, etc)

The front page of the game demo does look inviting. I could agree that NXT is still the most exciting alt coin system out there currently.
I don't understand all this tecky stuff / Does this mean that Dodge is more advanced than nxt ?
Looking at if from a market cap stand point it must be true. I hope one day nxt can shake of the dark stigma of unfair distribution and whales but i don't see it happening anytime soon if ever.

Did "whales" hurt bitcoin? 1 person holds 10% of bitcoin and 200 or so have 60%. Same applies to Litecoin and Peeercoin.  In fact, same applies to Nem. The population of the word is 7 billion. So "3000" (if you ignore sock puppets) would be considered "unfair distribution, by the rest of 7 billion.  Your argument is total nonsense.


+1 Yep.  I've always thought about this.  If mass adoption is what matters, than there really isn't much of a difference between 10, 73, or 3000.  However, there are a FEW advantages to having a few more initial stakeholders, like having more people run nodes at first and help out with marketing and such.  And in this case, although I think it's unfair and doesn't really matter in the end, having less than 100 stakeholders apparently has a pretty negative stigma...

Edit: and by unfair, I mean I think it's unfair that so many people have such a negative view about Nxt's initial distribution.  It's already better than bitcoin's distribution.

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Anything involves James nodecoin would need a great deal of luck to go through.

I've bookmarked this. Care to wager a NEM stake on this? Cheesy

Listen, I understand you're the head of NEM. Respect for you and your team. Somehow, in all the 'fair distribution' talk it's forgotten that CfB, Jean-Luc, CIYAM, James and others are a killer team. We're not waiting on an alpha, or picking out logos -- we're testing features now as I type this.

I wouldn't wager my NEM stake if I wasn't 100% positive. Smiley

Are all those people still involved in NXT? I thought CfB's contract was up. It looks like Jean-Luc and wesley have made all the commits for at least all of April: https://bitbucket.org/JeanLucPicard/nxt/commits/all. Is there another repro where other people are contributing?

CfB hasn''t left totally. He is still around, and waiting for DGS and asset exchange to finish. CIYAM is of course still working on AT project. James is supposedly "working" on dozens of things, but they don't involve changing nxt core. These are all his own projects. There are many others working on various projects (like android apps, games ( http://www.nox.am/  )  websites ( nxt.org, etc)

The front page of the game demo does look inviting. I could agree that NXT is still the most exciting alt coin system out there currently.
I don't understand all this tecky stuff / Does this mean that Dodge is more advanced than nxt ?
Looking at if from a market cap stand point it must be true. I hope one day nxt can shake of the dark stigma of unfair distribution and whales but i don't see it happening anytime soon if ever.

Did "whales" hurt bitcoin? 1 person holds 10% of bitcoin and 200 or so have 60%. Same applies to Litecoin and Peeercoin.  In fact, same applies to Nem. The population of the word is 7 billion. So "3000" (if you ignore sock puppets) would be considered "unfair distribution, by the rest of 7 billion.  Your argument is total nonsense.
Who has the argument and what for ? Oh i see then so Dodge is more advanced then





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Who has the argument and what for ? Oh i see then so Dodge is more advanced then

Doge is a clone of litecoin. It has very active community, but there is nothing "advanced" about it. It's first generation crypto that is bitcoin clone.

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Who has the argument and what for ? Oh i see then so Dodge is more advanced then

Doge is a clone of litecoin. It has very active community, but there is nothing "advanced" about it. It's first generation crypto that is bitcoin clone.

Why then is it doing so good ? maybe it's the community
Edit by good i mean a lot better than your nxt

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May 01, 2014, 05:25:34 AM
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I hope to be able to log into the trading platform

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May 01, 2014, 05:30:24 AM
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Who has the argument and what for ? Oh i see then so Dodge is more advanced then

Doge is a clone of litecoin. It has very active community, but there is nothing "advanced" about it. It's first generation crypto that is bitcoin clone.

Why then is it doing so good ? maybe it's the community
Edit by good i mean a lot better than your nxt

Stop posting nonsense, dude.  The topic of this thread is " No Envy Movement". Would you stop your nxt jealously? It's not "my" nxt. I wasn't the original stakeholder.

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