[NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread

[patmast3r]

Guys we really need to get this coin and the DEX functioning fast. Counterparty online wallet is launched tomorrow with a fully functional DEX and the longer we leave it the greater their first leader advantage is going to be https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=395761.6980

Counterparty will be drinking champagne on their insane 500% + profits tomorrow and laughing at us for how slow we are 

Counterparty uses the bitcoin blockchain right ? Sounds to me like it's doomed from the start unless people really never realize that there better things out there than bitcoin.

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[highscore]

developers. how will you correct the error, which announced c-f-b?

[instacalm]

Sounds to me like it's doomed from the start unless people really never realize that there better things out there than bitcoin.

People usually use what the far majority of people are using. Most people use Bitcoin because it is most widely accepted and pretty much the reserve currency of cryptocurrencies. Whether it is inferior to something else or not, people are (still) using it most -- just like you and me are too, you see.

[Simakki]

Sounds to me like it's doomed from the start unless people really never realize that there better things out there than bitcoin.

People usually use what the far majority of people are using. Most people use Bitcoin because it is most widely accepted and pretty much the reserve currency of cryptocurrencies. Whether it is inferior to something else or not, people are (still) using it most -- just like you and me are too, you see.

It depends how you look this, someone could easily say that bitcoin are used only by tiny population and havent gained any significant market share in terms of transactions or fees in financial markets or as a currency system...

[allwelder]

any updated news about nem?

[pabloangello]

any updated news about nem?

So far known fact is that client is planned on April.

[patmast3r]

developers. how will you correct the error, which announced c-f-b?

He hasn't actually announced an error. From the little that is publicly known about POI so far he has raised the concern that POI may be vulnderable to two well known attacks.
POI is still under development and there was no whitepaper released so far. CfB is a well known and respected NXTer but in this case he's just speculating.
Makoto is putting a lot of effort into finding the right balance and is running simulations of attacks. He's doing a great job and I'm not worried at all.

Once the algo is finalized and the whitepaper is realeased then people can come and say there are issues. In fact then it is encouraged and appreciated if other skilled people that a look at it. Before that it's useless speculation.

[patmast3r]

any updated news about nem?

So far known fact is that client is planned on April.

An alpha is planned for the end of April.

[pabloangello]

any updated news about nem?

So far known fact is that client is planned on April.

An alpha is planned for the end of April.

It is still a progress.

[pabloangello]

Is this being given away? i saw a thread where people were requesting it

NEM stakes were already distributed.

[mr smith]

Client have to be easily accessible, meaning that general people could adopt and use it. Notebooks and desktop computers aint nowadays even used in every household, i know many folks who just mainly use their tablets and smartphones. I dont know about rest of the world, but in Finland banks have very sophisticated clients/internetbanks and with all the NFC and other mobile payments systems, competition is fierce.
Certainly NEM have to be better than those systems of we want to create complete currency system/finance platform.

We definitely shouldn't forget about smartphone users here. It's a vast and growing market.

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I think a smart device wallet should be THE focus of NEM.  Apps are the way all computers are moving.  The main stream app stores started with IOS and then Android, but even now the big players are in it.  Windows now has a app store, Mac has an App store, even Ubuntu has an app store!  And for smart devices, app stores are basically the only choice, and yes, it of course needs to be one click.  Whatever the interface, the guy from Finland makes great points.  I'll be fair, I spend a lot of time on my desktop, but people like me (and probably you are dinosaurs in a way).  I am a professor in another high tech country, and basically all of my students use their cell phones as their primary computing device.  There is no going back to the desktop after this.  The focus of the NEM client should 100% be mobile.  We need to launch with a great android app, and hopefully an IOS one too.  If not an IOS app, than a portal that can be accessed via IOS.  Yes, I know this is asking a lot.  It is also the way towards success.  

Personally I can't see anyone who only uses phone as their only device to be high tech people. I could see how a country like that could be a high tech country, where the casual users all have cell phones, because it's something that the culture can afford, but I wouldn't consider someone who just uses their phone and mainly checks face book, texts, and plays simple casual games to be high tech.

Totally agree with j23a on this one. More so, i assume people expect less hacking to happen on mobile devices, but that's a lot easier to be done than on the pc (of a high tech person). I'm with jabo38 on the mobility factor, but until these smart devices get a lot more secure they won't have my trust in them in terms of banking.

Something that should definitely be added when Nem is released is a MD5 & SHA Checksum, so that people can verify that the download is legit.

+1 for those that were on the receiving end of an infected client. Simple instructions and a short explanation about the security measure.

[utopianfuture]

Is this being given away? i saw a thread where people were requesting it

There is a waiting list and we are likely to have around 200 slots or more for the waiting list. It won't be free though. The donation/ fee should be at least higher than the last fee (0.075btc) sent in for stakeholders.

[conbos]

I'm impressed! This threat is full of interesting discussion and good spirit!
Our main strength: this community!!!

[KingCole]

I'm impressed! This threat is full of interesting discussion and good spirit!
Our main strength: this community!!!

I've followed a few coins some as a miner, some as an investor, but NEM certainly appears to be different. UP has put together a strong team and has created a strong vision, allowing people to get behind the movement. The number and diversity of stakeholders and the way it has been done is very open and impressive. Finally the open audit and handling of complaints, queries, ideas has been very warm and professional.

KC

[Thingamajig]

As it was said before, whatever we do with the wallet and app, our most important filters should be simplicity and ease of use. I am convinced this will be one of the important things that make or break Nem in the long run.

In other words a one click install client would be just great to begin with.
I also think maybe it would be interesting for the Nem client to have 2 skins. Meaning one simple and very user friendly interface with just a few basic options and another interface for the more advanced Nem guys where all the interesting options and features are included. This is just a thought.

As i said before, i think this is vitally important.

I think it's very, very important we give people CHOICE - if they wish to have more advanced features, this option should be within the same client; not involve them having to download another client in order to get additional functionality because they're an advanced user. It's this exact thing that makes Crypto's more complicated thna they need to be. Sure, on the surface this is no big deal, but couple this with other hoops people need to jump through, the entire process gets complicated very, very quickly.

A simple option in a menu to enable or disable "Advanced user options" is all that's necessary.


This sort of reminds me of my stance between Firefox and Chrome - i find Chrome a more dumbed down experience and therefore prefer the additional options Firefox offers me (I especially dislike the fact Chrome doesn't even give you the option of choosing an install path - very patronizing, very frustrating)

In order to not piss off either party (Advanced users, casual users) we need to give them CHOICE.

[j23a]

Just when I thought things were slowing down and we were going to  have less alt coins this week (March 30 tp April 5) we had 20 coin launched. http://www.altcoincalendar.info/calendar

I wonder when it's all going to slow down.

I tend to try and look at them all in the same light, as legitimate trying to build something, but look at how complicated and involved this Nem project is, yet these other coins are as easy as copy and paste.

[okaynow]

i believe as summer will start rolling in, summercoin and surfcoin will make their appearances  too
make sure to do some reading before you spend any amount anywhere..

and remember 4 letters:
hodl

[xtester]

Been reading a lot about crypto-currency lately and I must admit all that is happening today is very interesting. A lot of things change, there's plenty of noise, but definitely some bright signal and real innovation as well. A lot of shortcomings but I think the big picture looks fairly promising.

Of all the different interesting experiments that take place right now, if we take a step back and reflect a bit at the Nem story, it really is fascinating.

Here is a visionary who is a bit frustrated with the state of affairs that surround him, sees a solution to make things better and acts upon it.
From this, a curious series of events unfolds and a compelling movement emerges. An honest movement created by the people and for the people.
As with all the great startup stories this movement begins with an idea in mind which at first seems a joke, only to discover that the joke goes through beautiful, subtle and complex metamorphosis turning out to be a very promising and potentially groundbreaking innovative experiment.
Although this is only the beginning, if we once again take a look at the big picture, from the first of UtopianFuture's posts till now this experiment has emulated an organic sort of evolution by natural selection.

This being said I am overly excited about Nem and very curios how things will unfold during the following year, and perhaps even more so thinking where a movement like this could be 10 or 20 years from now.

[cryptonikus]

YES, i can feel it in the air, NEM is gonna be much bigger than most people think, the whole attitude towards quality of process is outstanding.
This is what I waited for.

[mlwlxz]

I'm impressed! This threat is full of interesting discussion and good spirit!
Our main strength: this community!!!

I've followed a few coins some as a miner, some as an investor, but NEM certainly appears to be different. UP has put together a strong team and has created a strong vision, allowing people to get behind the movement. The number and diversity of stakeholders and the way it has been done is very open and impressive. Finally the open audit and handling of complaints, queries, ideas has been very warm and professional.

KC

Yes, these I have felt. From this thing, I think NEM has huge development potential in the market will occupy a large proportion