[NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread

[hashtag101]

Hell of a page 400 lol

Ok

Im ready for the birthday cake now.

 

[zhou123]

yeah,i think we will hit 2000 pages oneday.then we can say nem3.0

[robertjr]

I have heard news that Lamassu https://lamassu.is/ is advertising that they can sell open-source (programmable) crypto-currency atms for any currency at $1800 a piece.
When Nem starts to get big it would cost less than 100k to have one atm in every u.s. state.

This is achievable, Dogecoin raised like 48k (correct?) to advertise in a nascar race.

This would be great for Nem infrastructure and publicity.

...Not even Bitcoin has an atm grid like that.

We should put something like this on fund.nemcoin.com.

Tell me what you think...

Open Bitcoin ATM project has a vending kiosk kit for $645.
http://openbitcoinatm.wordpress.com/
http://openbitcoinatm.wordpress.com/purchase-kit/

[UtopianBurst]

yeah,i think we will hit 2000 pages oneday.then we can say nem3.0

lol,2000 pages for stakeholder list and auction.

[makoto1337]

i think all the people here just want to make our project well .
ltc ---btc,nem----nxt.
but now there are nas,n2,nhz,so some of us feel very sad.
still look good at nem,more than 4000 join here!

It is understandable that you are getting impatient, hell, I'm getting impatient. I'm excited for NEM to launch June/July, but now its August/September. That's a long time. I know. In crypto its a lifetime.

But when you look at it the way you are, its bound to make you go from impatient to angry.

This is why. You are comparing ltc<btc and nem<nxt. This is not the case!

Above you talk about N2 (which is a scam btw lol)

NAS (which is at 5 Satoshi last time I looked last week)

And Nhz (I dont even want to know)

BUT WHAT I DO KNOW IS THAT these are CLONES.

CLONES

Copies of Nxt

NEM is NOT a copy
NEM is written from scratch.

Big difference!! If I thought NEM was a clone I would be mad it took so long too.

Ask yourself. Do you truly understand this. Learn so you do. Then you won't be so angry.

No one said August/Sept. NEM will ship when it is done. We are working hard to get the first version out as soon as possible, but we are dealing with peoples' money, so it can't be rushed. All the code we write has to be well tested and stable.

[xtester]

NEM public auction explanation

---------------------------------------

155 NEM stakes will be put on a public auction (155 million NEM)

The auction will happen in Bitcoin blockchain and follow the multi unit auction format. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiunit_auction

How does it happen if X stakes are put on the auction ?

1. On the auction day, a Bitcoin escrow address will be revealed at a designated time.
2. Each transaction to the escrow address will be considered a bid for 1 stake. Two transactions from the same address to the escrow address will be considered two separate bids.
3. The auction will last at least 24 hours (but less than 36 hours).
4. Bidders could monitor the bidding process in real time via Blockchain.info
5. When the auction ends, X highest bidders (X biggest transactions) will win X stakes.
6. We will refund all non-winning bids minus the transaction fee and a service fee. All winning bids will receive back the difference between the winning bid price and lowest winning bid price minus the transaction fee and a service fee. Service fee is for the escrow service (for tallying and refunding the bids).
7. Example: there are 3 bids 1 btc, 1.2 btc and 2 btc and all are winning bids. Since 1 btc is the lowest winning bid price then bidders of 1.2 btc and 2 btc will win a stake and get a refund of 0.2 and 1 btc respectively.
8. There is a limit of two bids for each sending address and taint analysis will be used on the escrow address to make sure no address wins more than 2 stakes.
9. The sending address of the winning bid will be the identifier of the owner of the won stake. Therefore the winning bid sender should later provide a NEM address to receive the share via a signed message from the sending address. Signed message could be done via popular bitcoin wallets such as multibit, bitcoin-qt or blockchain.info.
10. Bidding recommendation: bidders should consider placing only 1 bid if they want to buy 1 stake and placing the highest bid that they are willing to buy. Since the buying price for all stakes will be equal to the minimum winning bid, there is no risk of over-paying for a stake.

-------------------------------------------

There will  be 10 stakes offered in the first test-run auction in about 2 weeks or so (it will be held on Saturday-Sunday frame) and we plan to offer regular auctions every week until close to the official launch. (open Alpha should be released before the auction)

Let me know if you want to be the escrow for the auction, you should follow all the above rules but being able to set the service fee yourselves. The entire service fee will go to the escrow and he will hold the fund for the winning bidders until NEM officially launch.

Seems a good way to proceed.  I'm sure the investors handout will come in handy as well.

[DynhoSts]

I know it takes a long time, now very possible we would like to stay ready until July maximum
need to buy a new home soon

[MYC-Team]

logo is nice,no others?

[nightwishx]

Where can a query list?

[brydtabhn]

You Great NEM(New Economy Movement) Development Founders:

  I'm watching the BTC candle line in front of screen, upset and disheartened now. Just at this time I'm thinking of you ---- the great new economy movement founders!

  I don't know that whether you went back and looked into the orginial article you posted, checking how
 much of your commitment comes true or not.

  I also don't know that why you call NEM new economy movement, and if you would blush with shame today or tomorrow. Have you read the 《Du Contrat Social》？Do you have the "contract spirit" —— the core of economic？

  We supported you too much, with encourage and patience. We specially dispatched a batch of lackeys around you to cheer you up ---- maybe everything we have done harmed you. We boasted to the air about how a better future! If you want to argue, show us your work first! Let's see the result of months of your hard work!
 
  The only thing we can see is the "stakeholder list" ---- constant and never-ending list. You can only play excel. Stop toss us over and over again!

  PTS is know to us all, the famous scam. I interpreted to the guys in our qq group that NEM is different to PTS a few months ago, and I'm not clear that what's the difference. Okay, at least PTS lets everyone played with concept and trade although BTS/AGS are only "legends". And look at us, we
are always play with list!

  Each share we investmented is a contract, you new economy movement guys must make clear. The contracts toke effect when we sent you BTC/NXT. What makes you casually alter the list? You must pay the penalty according to the real economy rules.

  And now you divide the investors into level 1/2/3 level according to the number of posts, blabla. Are you a nerd, or have no participation in economic activity? We are stakholders and investors. We are responsible for the money, but we have no responsibility for flattering you! Why less posts means low lever? If you do nothing, why should we kneel down and suck you? We do not need to understand english, and we are not coding farmers. We also not be able to give you technology opionions and teach you how to modeling it and coding it. But we are investors -- WE GIVE YOU THE MONEY. We're in charge of pay, and you are responsible for the goods. Where is the goods now? Show us, you great NEM founders!

   You great NEM founders IPO and make shares auction and take away our money, scam the original investors and scam others. Can you take us a good crypto if you always concern about the money? Your auction only want to raise price, but where is your goods? What makes you to auction the vacuum?Show us the stuff first. I have money but I'm not going to buy a paper cake.
 
   I have to give my respect to BCNext and the hard working NXT team. They are guys really do something. You are gossiping NXT from morning till night, with a bunch of lackeys. But the really question is that you did nothing until now ---- even fart and shit. As a comparision, BCNext only takes 21 BTC and comes up with genius art.
 
  Of course I am still looking forward you can really come up with some fart, as soon as possible. No new work is perfect. We only need you do practical work, not shit auction, shit list. Each share is a piece of trust. The more inverstors give you, the more they trust. And you have failed to live up to the trust.

  Virtual currency is a rapidly growing things, as the early internet. Many attempts have been proven failed, or go to the wrong direction, or premature. NEM needs to be a frame, not a perfect work. It can be extended and grow up in the future. That's what the masters do.

  Finally, I'm still looking forward to see the NEM becomes reality as soon as possbile.

                                                                     A investor's sock puppet account

[cupper5]

NEM public auction explanation

---------------------------------------

155 NEM stakes will be put on a public auction (155 million NEM)

The auction will happen in Bitcoin blockchain and follow the multi unit auction format. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiunit_auction

How does it happen if X stakes are put on the auction ?

1. On the auction day, a Bitcoin escrow address will be revealed at a designated time.
2. Each transaction to the escrow address will be considered a bid for 1 stake. Two transactions from the same address to the escrow address will be considered two separate bids.
3. The auction will last at least 24 hours (but less than 36 hours).
4. Bidders could monitor the bidding process in real time via Blockchain.info
5. When the auction ends, X highest bidders (X biggest transactions) will win X stakes.
6. We will refund all non-winning bids minus the transaction fee and a service fee. All winning bids will receive back the difference between the winning bid price and lowest winning bid price minus the transaction fee and a service fee. Service fee is for the escrow service (for tallying and refunding the bids).
7. Example: there are 3 bids 1 btc, 1.2 btc and 2 btc and all are winning bids. Since 1 btc is the lowest winning bid price then bidders of 1.2 btc and 2 btc will win a stake and get a refund of 0.2 and 1 btc respectively.
8. There is a limit of two bids for each sending address and taint analysis will be used on the escrow address to make sure no address wins more than 2 stakes.
9. The sending address of the winning bid will be the identifier of the owner of the won stake. Therefore the winning bid sender should later provide a NEM address to receive the share via a signed message from the sending address. Signed message could be done via popular bitcoin wallets such as multibit, bitcoin-qt or blockchain.info.
10. Bidding recommendation: bidders should consider placing only 1 bid if they want to buy 1 stake and placing the highest bid that they are willing to buy. Since the buying price for all stakes will be equal to the minimum winning bid, there is no risk of over-paying for a stake.

-------------------------------------------

There will  be 10 stakes offered in the first test-run auction in about 2 weeks or so (it will be held on Saturday-Sunday frame) and we plan to offer regular auctions every week until close to the official launch. (open Alpha should be released before the auction)

Let me know if you want to be the escrow for the auction, you should follow all the above rules but being able to set the service fee yourselves. The entire service fee will go to the escrow and he will hold the fund for the winning bidders until NEM officially launch.

Seems a good way to proceed.  I'm sure the investors handout will come in handy as well.

could be a hell of a lot of RefundingWork for the devs though...no?......could be literally hundreds of losing refunds and then having to work out differences from
lowest winning bid and refund those as well?

[patmast3r]

You Great NEM(New Economy Movement) Development Founders:

  I'm watching the BTC candle line in front of screen, upset and disheartened now. Just at this time I'm thinking of you ---- the great new economy movement founders!

  I don't know that whether you went back and looked into the orginial article you posted, checking how
 much of your commitment comes true or not.

  I also don't know that why you call NEM new economy movement, and if you would blush with shame today or tomorrow. Have you read the 《Du Contrat Social》？Do you have the "contract spirit" —— the core of economic？

  We supported you too much, with encourage and patience. We specially dispatched a batch of lackeys around you to cheer you up ---- maybe everything we have done harmed you. We boasted to the air about how a better future! If you want to argue, show us your work first! Let's see the result of months of your hard work!
 
  The only thing we can see is the "stakeholder list" ---- constant and never-ending list. You can only play excel. Stop toss us over and over again!

  PTS is know to us all, the famous scam. I interpreted to the guys in our qq group that NEM is different to PTS a few months ago, and I'm not clear that what's the difference. Okay, at least PTS lets everyone played with concept and trade although BTS/AGS are only "legends". And look at us, we
are always play with list!

  Each share we investmented is a contract, you new economy movement guys must make clear. The contracts toke effect when we sent you BTC/NXT. What makes you casually alter the list? You must pay the penalty according to the real economy rules.

  And now you divide the investors into level 1/2/3 level according to the number of posts, blabla. Are you a nerd, or have no participation in economic activity? We are stakholders and investors. We are responsible for the money, but we have no responsibility for flattering you! Why less posts means low lever? If you do nothing, why should we kneel down and suck you? We do not need to understand english, and we are not coding farmers. We also not be able to give you technology opionions and teach you how to modeling it and coding it. But we are investors -- WE GIVE YOU THE MONEY. We're in charge of pay, and you are responsible for the goods. Where is the goods now? Show us, you great NEM founders!

   You great NEM founders IPO and make shares auction and take away our money, scam the original investors and scam others. Can you take us a good crypto if you always concern about the money? Your auction only want to raise price, but where is your goods? What makes you to auction the vacuum?Show us the stuff first. I have money but I'm not going to buy a paper cake.
  
   I have to give my respect to BCNext and the hard working NXT team. They are guys really do something. You are gossiping NXT from morning till night, with a bunch of lackeys. But the really question is that you did nothing until now ---- even fart and shit. As a comparision, BCNext only takes 21 BTC and comes up with genius art.
  
  Of course I am still looking forward you can really come up with some fart, as soon as possible. No new work is perfect. We only need you do practical work, not shit auction, shit list. Each share is a piece of trust. The more inverstors give you, the more they trust. And you have failed to live up to the trust.

  Virtual currency is a rapidly growing things, as the early internet. Many attempts have been proven failed, or go to the wrong direction, or premature. NEM needs to be a frame, not a perfect work. It can be extended and grow up in the future. That's what the masters do.

  Finally, I'm still looking forward to see the NEM becomes reality as soon as possbile.

                                                                     A investor's sock puppet account

I'd like to answer but I can't decipher what the heck your talking about.

I did notice you're bitching about the pop statistics.

Let's make this clear: This was just done to have the information not to establish some kind of segregation. Many people say we only have very little unique stakeholders so it's good to know that there are plenty of veteran accounts as well. There is no differenece being made between those groups. Noone is being treated differently.

And for the last time...

If you're not happy with the progress ? -> request a refund. Bitching won't do any good it simply annoys people. Constructive criticism is very welcome but that's not what's going on 90 % of the time.

You don't wanna see the stakehodler list ? -> don't look at it.

You want more or faster progress ? -> go ahead and do it faster yourself or go and join the communities of some clones.

You wanna know when "lunch" ? -> No ETA and it's freaking called launch. I do however have lunch around 12:30 so...

[cupper5]

utopian wants to know if anyone wants to buy more nem prelaunch on nxt asset exchange! this would be a huge huge bonus for distribution and network effect! nem to the moooon! https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=616467.msg6821496#msg6821496

I should make it clearer that current stakeholders could be issued the tokens on demand, but it is not for selling more NEM shares. Technically it is a temporary transfer of NEM stake ownership from my Google sheet to Nxt asset exchange.

Do you think 1 month is long enough for sockpuppets to claim refund?..I do.

Now from the middle of next month, the number of unclaimed stakes could be put on NXT AE    maybe enough for 1 token / 1 stake..?

Just a thought.   Could generate lots of interest.

[WSCC]

You Great NEM(New Economy Movement) Development Founders:

  I'm watching the BTC candle line in front of screen, upset and disheartened now. Just at this time I'm thinking of you ---- the great new economy movement founders!

  I don't know that whether you went back and looked into the orginial article you posted, checking how
 much of your commitment comes true or not.

  I also don't know that why you call NEM new economy movement, and if you would blush with shame today or tomorrow. Have you read the 《Du Contrat Social》？Do you have the "contract spirit" —— the core of economic？

  We supported you too much, with encourage and patience. We specially dispatched a batch of lackeys around you to cheer you up ---- maybe everything we have done harmed you. We boasted to the air about how a better future! If you want to argue, show us your work first! Let's see the result of months of your hard work!
 
  The only thing we can see is the "stakeholder list" ---- constant and never-ending list. You can only play excel. Stop toss us over and over again!

  PTS is know to us all, the famous scam. I interpreted to the guys in our qq group that NEM is different to PTS a few months ago, and I'm not clear that what's the difference. Okay, at least PTS lets everyone played with concept and trade although BTS/AGS are only "legends". And look at us, we
are always play with list!

  Each share we investmented is a contract, you new economy movement guys must make clear. The contracts toke effect when we sent you BTC/NXT. What makes you casually alter the list? You must pay the penalty according to the real economy rules.

  And now you divide the investors into level 1/2/3 level according to the number of posts, blabla. Are you a nerd, or have no participation in economic activity? We are stakholders and investors. We are responsible for the money, but we have no responsibility for flattering you! Why less posts means low lever? If you do nothing, why should we kneel down and suck you? We do not need to understand english, and we are not coding farmers. We also not be able to give you technology opionions and teach you how to modeling it and coding it. But we are investors -- WE GIVE YOU THE MONEY. We're in charge of pay, and you are responsible for the goods. Where is the goods now? Show us, you great NEM founders!

   You great NEM founders IPO and make shares auction and take away our money, scam the original investors and scam others. Can you take us a good crypto if you always concern about the money? Your auction only want to raise price, but where is your goods? What makes you to auction the vacuum?Show us the stuff first. I have money but I'm not going to buy a paper cake.
 
   I have to give my respect to BCNext and the hard working NXT team. They are guys really do something. You are gossiping NXT from morning till night, with a bunch of lackeys. But the really question is that you did nothing until now ---- even fart and shit. As a comparision, BCNext only takes 21 BTC and comes up with genius art.
 
  Of course I am still looking forward you can really come up with some fart, as soon as possible. No new work is perfect. We only need you do practical work, not shit auction, shit list. Each share is a piece of trust. The more inverstors give you, the more they trust. And you have failed to live up to the trust.

  Virtual currency is a rapidly growing things, as the early internet. Many attempts have been proven failed, or go to the wrong direction, or premature. NEM needs to be a frame, not a perfect work. It can be extended and grow up in the future. That's what the masters do.

  Finally, I'm still looking forward to see the NEM becomes reality as soon as possbile.

                                                                     A investor's sock puppet account

I am very disappointed, as a fan of nem.
I was very sad, as a fan of nem.
I am very stupid, as a fan of nem.

[CKTT]

You Great NEM(New Economy Movement) Development Founders:

  I'm watching the BTC candle line in front of screen, upset and disheartened now. Just at this time I'm thinking of you ---- the great new economy movement founders!

  I don't know that whether you went back and looked into the orginial article you posted, checking how
 much of your commitment comes true or not.

  I also don't know that why you call NEM new economy movement, and if you would blush with shame today or tomorrow. Have you read the 《Du Contrat Social》？Do you have the "contract spirit" —— the core of economic？

  We supported you too much, with encourage and patience. We specially dispatched a batch of lackeys around you to cheer you up ---- maybe everything we have done harmed you. We boasted to the air about how a better future! If you want to argue, show us your work first! Let's see the result of months of your hard work!
 
  The only thing we can see is the "stakeholder list" ---- constant and never-ending list. You can only play excel. Stop toss us over and over again!

  PTS is know to us all, the famous scam. I interpreted to the guys in our qq group that NEM is different to PTS a few months ago, and I'm not clear that what's the difference. Okay, at least PTS lets everyone played with concept and trade although BTS/AGS are only "legends". And look at us, we
are always play with list!

  Each share we investmented is a contract, you new economy movement guys must make clear. The contracts toke effect when we sent you BTC/NXT. What makes you casually alter the list? You must pay the penalty according to the real economy rules.

  And now you divide the investors into level 1/2/3 level according to the number of posts, blabla. Are you a nerd, or have no participation in economic activity? We are stakholders and investors. We are responsible for the money, but we have no responsibility for flattering you! Why less posts means low lever? If you do nothing, why should we kneel down and suck you? We do not need to understand english, and we are not coding farmers. We also not be able to give you technology opionions and teach you how to modeling it and coding it. But we are investors -- WE GIVE YOU THE MONEY. We're in charge of pay, and you are responsible for the goods. Where is the goods now? Show us, you great NEM founders!

   You great NEM founders IPO and make shares auction and take away our money, scam the original investors and scam others. Can you take us a good crypto if you always concern about the money? Your auction only want to raise price, but where is your goods? What makes you to auction the vacuum?Show us the stuff first. I have money but I'm not going to buy a paper cake.
 
   I have to give my respect to BCNext and the hard working NXT team. They are guys really do something. You are gossiping NXT from morning till night, with a bunch of lackeys. But the really question is that you did nothing until now ---- even fart and shit. As a comparision, BCNext only takes 21 BTC and comes up with genius art.
 
  Of course I am still looking forward you can really come up with some fart, as soon as possible. No new work is perfect. We only need you do practical work, not shit auction, shit list. Each share is a piece of trust. The more inverstors give you, the more they trust. And you have failed to live up to the trust.

  Virtual currency is a rapidly growing things, as the early internet. Many attempts have been proven failed, or go to the wrong direction, or premature. NEM needs to be a frame, not a perfect work. It can be extended and grow up in the future. That's what the masters do.

  Finally, I'm still looking forward to see the NEM becomes reality as soon as possbile.

                                                                     A investor's sock puppet account

I am very disappointed, as a fan of nem.
I was very sad, as a fan of nem.
I am very stupid, as a fan of nem.

Tell me it isn't true, just a joke, please take out the product, rather than a list.

[vivalinux]

You're palter.

We need more detail published. How many functions have been finished and how many are not? Where is the problems and how are you going to solve them? And etc.

[brydtabhn]

No one trust you at first time we have given you the greatest trust. Invested in your creation. When your products began to trust those who originally don't trust you but because jealousy thrown fair excuse. Delete a large number of the original investors. And you as a developer for interests. Borrow the name of the fair. Trample our trust. This is unfair
在最初没人信任你们的时候我们给了你们最大的信任.投资了你们的创作.当你们的产品开始被信任的时候那些最初不信任你们最后却因为嫉妒抛出公平的借口.删除大量的原始投资者.而你们作为开发者为了利益.借公平的名义.践踏我们的信任.这才是最大的不公平

[mcjavar]

How much stake will I get when I am on the stakeholders list?

[BitZCoin]

You all should have better trust in this project

[brydtabhn]

You Great NEM(New Economy Movement) Development Founders:

  I'm watching the BTC candle line in front of screen, upset and disheartened now. Just at this time I'm thinking of you ---- the great new economy movement founders!

  I don't know that whether you went back and looked into the orginial article you posted, checking how
 much of your commitment comes true or not.

  I also don't know that why you call NEM new economy movement, and if you would blush with shame today or tomorrow. Have you read the 《Du Contrat Social》？Do you have the "contract spirit" —— the core of economic？

  We supported you too much, with encourage and patience. We specially dispatched a batch of lackeys around you to cheer you up ---- maybe everything we have done harmed you. We boasted to the air about how a better future! If you want to argue, show us your work first! Let's see the result of months of your hard work!
 
  The only thing we can see is the "stakeholder list" ---- constant and never-ending list. You can only play excel. Stop toss us over and over again!

  PTS is know to us all, the famous scam. I interpreted to the guys in our qq group that NEM is different to PTS a few months ago, and I'm not clear that what's the difference. Okay, at least PTS lets everyone played with concept and trade although BTS/AGS are only "legends". And look at us, we
are always play with list!

  Each share we investmented is a contract, you new economy movement guys must make clear. The contracts toke effect when we sent you BTC/NXT. What makes you casually alter the list? You must pay the penalty according to the real economy rules.

  And now you divide the investors into level 1/2/3 level according to the number of posts, blabla. Are you a nerd, or have no participation in economic activity? We are stakholders and investors. We are responsible for the money, but we have no responsibility for flattering you! Why less posts means low lever? If you do nothing, why should we kneel down and suck you? We do not need to understand english, and we are not coding farmers. We also not be able to give you technology opionions and teach you how to modeling it and coding it. But we are investors -- WE GIVE YOU THE MONEY. We're in charge of pay, and you are responsible for the goods. Where is the goods now? Show us, you great NEM founders!

   You great NEM founders IPO and make shares auction and take away our money, scam the original investors and scam others. Can you take us a good crypto if you always concern about the money? Your auction only want to raise price, but where is your goods? What makes you to auction the vacuum?Show us the stuff first. I have money but I'm not going to buy a paper cake.
  
   I have to give my respect to BCNext and the hard working NXT team. They are guys really do something. You are gossiping NXT from morning till night, with a bunch of lackeys. But the really question is that you did nothing until now ---- even fart and shit. As a comparision, BCNext only takes 21 BTC and comes up with genius art.
  
  Of course I am still looking forward you can really come up with some fart, as soon as possible. No new work is perfect. We only need you do practical work, not shit auction, shit list. Each share is a piece of trust. The more inverstors give you, the more they trust. And you have failed to live up to the trust.

  Virtual currency is a rapidly growing things, as the early internet. Many attempts have been proven failed, or go to the wrong direction, or premature. NEM needs to be a frame, not a perfect work. It can be extended and grow up in the future. That's what the masters do.

  Finally, I'm still looking forward to see the NEM becomes reality as soon as possbile.

                                                                     A investor's sock puppet account

I'd like to answer but I can't decipher what the heck your talking about.

I did notice you're bitching about the pop statistics.

Let's make this clear: This was just done to have the information not to establish some kind of segregation. Many people say we only have very little unique stakeholders so it's good to know that there are plenty of veteran accounts as well. There is no differenece being made between those groups. Noone is being treated differently.

And for the last time...

If you're not happy with the progress ? -> request a refund. Bitching won't do any good it simply annoys people. Constructive criticism is very welcome but that's not what's going on 90 % of the time.

You don't wanna see the stakehodler list ? -> don't look at it.

You want more or faster progress ? -> go ahead and do it faster yourself or go and join the communities of some clones.

You wanna know when "lunch" ? -> No ETA and it's freaking called launch. I do however have lunch around 12:30 so...

You heard enough praise. Shouldn't listen to criticism?
你们听到了足够的赞美.难道不应该听听批评吗？
I believe that this is not I a person's voice.This is the voice of most investors
我相信这不是我一个人的声音。这是大多数投资者的声音