Bitcoin Miners

[wwwin]

The heat was so intense that that water cooling system of theirs could not handle it. They had no choice. A victory for the bitcoin community.

This is not a victory for the bitcoin community.  This is a complete and utter failure of this community, and a shining example of why bitcoin is handled with mistrust.  They advertised the best product on the market, and this community managed to twist the truth until everyone believed it was a scam.  Now we've lost their contribution to the scene, and made ourselves look like idiots to the governmental agencies that were contacted to chase them down.

Well done. 

Well if you believe that watch out. The aliens are watching you and they are coming to attack us soon.

[Cheshyr]

The heat was so intense that that water cooling system of theirs could not handle it. They had no choice. A victory for the bitcoin community.

This is not a victory for the bitcoin community.  This is a complete and utter failure of this community, and a shining example of why bitcoin is handled with mistrust.  They advertised the best product on the market, and this community managed to twist the truth until everyone believed it was a scam.  Now we've lost their contribution to the scene, and made ourselves look like idiots to the governmental agencies that were contacted to chase them down.

Well done. 

Well if you believe that watch out. The aliens are watching you and they are coming to attack us soon.

Do you honestly believe they refunded the bitcoin because some government agency was pounding on their door?  I would guess they refunded the bitcoin because the project was defunct, even if they had a successful product.  (shrug)  Doesn't matter now. 

[Colin Miner]

All online services have been taken down due to scam accusations.


The response to our products has been very poor.
The CTS Miner project is now closed.

Refunds are being processed now as per refund policy.

Good bye, don't come back.

[Gamer67]

The heat was so intense that that water cooling system of theirs could not handle it. They had no choice. A victory for the bitcoin community.

This is not a victory for the bitcoin community.  This is a complete and utter failure of this community, and a shining example of why bitcoin is handled with mistrust.  They advertised the best product on the market, and this community managed to twist the truth until everyone believed it was a scam.  Now we've lost their contribution to the scene, and made ourselves look like idiots to the governmental agencies that were contacted to chase them down.

Well done. 

Well if you believe that watch out. The aliens are watching you and they are coming to attack us soon.

Do you honestly believe they refunded the bitcoin because some government agency was pounding on their door?  I would guess they refunded the bitcoin because the project was defunct, even if they had a successful product.  (shrug)  Doesn't matter now. 

Seriously dude ?

There was no company, no project, no product, no contribution, it was a scam from start to finish.

The only one looking like an idiot right now is you with that statement. Sorry.

[DPoS]

Great Dave. Out of everyone in this mess you were the only one I truly felt was victimized here.

Enjoy the rest of your day.

agreed

[Cheshyr]

For what it's worth, I'm glad the people who wanted their refunds got their coin back.  And I'm glad this community is willing to watch out for each other regarding scams.  One of these days, I hope it becomes apparent how much a negative community opinion is a self-fulling prophecy, even if the opinion is based on uncertain information.  It would also be nice if we had a more elegant way to approach these questionable situations.  

In the end, CTSMiner is no more.  The only things lost were transactiosn fees, the time spend tro updating the thread, and the truth of whatever intentions were behind the endeavor.  Time to move on to better things.  I heard ASICMiner announced their next chip specs.

[Gamer67]

For what it's worth, I'm glad the people who wanted their refunds got their coin back.  And I'm glad this community is willing to watch out for each other regarding scams.  One of these days, I hope it becomes apparent how much a negative community opinion is a self-fulling prophecy, even if the opinion is based on uncertain information.  It would also be nice if we had a more elegant way to approach these questionable situations. 

In the end, CTSMiner is no more.  The only things lost were transactiosn fees, the time spend tro updating the thread, and the truth of whatever intentions were behind the endeavor.  Time to move on to better things.  I heard ASICMiner announced their next chip specs.

+1

That's better , you had me worried there for a sec.

[studio1one]

Top marks and massive slaps on the back to whoever went out of their way behind the scenes to bring this to a resolution and return coins. It's great to see members of the community go out of their way to help others and bring this back into line.

The only thing I would say is that the scammers still deserve to be dealt with by the authorities, even if they have returned the coins. Who knows how many they have ripped before or will try to do again.

[Gamer67]

I think there were others who got roped into this as well via other means. Such as Facebook, Twitter and more importantly via Google Ads.

I trust that all the others that were not a part of this forum are also receiving refunds ?

There was quite a bit more BTC totaled up in the two suspects wallets than what has been paid back.

[YourPalToots]

I agree. A lot of things here still do not add up but committing a crime to solve a crime is not how it should be done.

I concur.

They were a scam. 100%. Can we get that clear?

"Rebecca" contacted me because of my "blackmail" (I think someone called it that). I wanted answers.

I'm sorry to disappoint, but Rebecca has a penis.

HE is in a living hell right now, which is exactly where he should be for this scam.

... and let me guess. You will send that information to the brothers to demand compensation.

You are here to take advantage of the situation just like "Rebecca".

[The Avenger]

I agree. A lot of things here still do not add up but committing a crime to solve a crime is not how it should be done.

I concur.

They were a scam. 100%. Can we get that clear?

"Rebecca" contacted me because of my "blackmail" (I think someone called it that). I wanted answers.

I'm sorry to disappoint, but Rebecca has a penis.

HE is in a living hell right now, which is exactly where he should be for this scam.

... and let me guess. You will send that information to the brothers to demand compensation.

You are here to take advantage of the situation just like "Rebecca".

Phoenix knows fucking well "Rebecca" did not willingly refund.

Let me try this in captial letters, see if it will sink in.

"REBECCA" SOLD SOME OF THE BTC HE COLLECTED FROM THE SCAM.

Once Augusto/my research revealed who he was, he shit his pants and had to buy back the BTC in order to make the "willing" refund.

Phoenix knows that.

More than anything, I want Phoenix to admit that. I've asked him 5 times today and he sidestepped it and tried to buy me off with a "small gift".

He can go to hell with his small gift, the truth is more important to me. Foil one scammer to help another scammer.

Phoenix, you want to reply to this?

[DPoS]

Avenger.. ya dunce..  Phoenix is in on the scam

[Gamer67]

So where is Maui (or is it Rebecca) ?

[YourPalToots]

I agree. A lot of things here still do not add up but committing a crime to solve a crime is not how it should be done.

I concur.

They were a scam. 100%. Can we get that clear?

"Rebecca" contacted me because of my "blackmail" (I think someone called it that). I wanted answers.

I'm sorry to disappoint, but Rebecca has a penis.

HE is in a living hell right now, which is exactly where he should be for this scam.

... and let me guess. You will send that information to the brothers to demand compensation.

You are here to take advantage of the situation just like "Rebecca".

Phoenix knows fucking well "Rebecca" did not willingly refund.

Let me try this in captial letters, see if it will sink in.

"REBECCA" SOLD SOME OF THE BTC HE COLLECTED FROM THE SCAM.

Once Augusto/my research revealed who he was, he shit his pants and had to buy back the BTC in order to make the "willing" refund.

Phoenix knows that.

More than anything, I want Phoenix to admit that. I've asked him 5 times today and he sidestepped it and tried to buy me off with a "small gift".

He can go to hell with his small gift, the truth is more important to me. Foil one scammer to help another scammer.

Phoenix, you want to reply to this?

I understand completely. I always have. You are scamming the scammers.

BTW, I have also thought that the timing was really convenient and too perfect an ending for phoenix to get the money back. With so many people sniffing the bitchain, the only way out for all parties was through a "refund". It is easy to offer a reward when you know there won't be a recovery but as the chain got yanked the story began to unravel. He cried foul a little too loud and now has the thorn of 80%.

[Phoenix1969]

Avenger...  Sure, I'll reply to that, no problem.
  As for JNbitcoin buying and selling coin...  has no bearing on the circumstances.
No government agency even had a chance to review the evidence, and whoever is behind all this refunded the btc (Thank God) obviously to avoid prosecution over what was posted in the thread; but it was not over what was pm'd, because that had not had a chance to do its work.
He/she may thing refunding will stop things from progressing... well, there's the butterfliabs thing still...  
That won't change much, because there's no erasing or cancelling all the emails we sent out containing all that evidence.
BUT
Because it was the pressure that Augusto mainly posted, and you (Avenger) followed up via pm... I think you still deserve a scooby snack or three.
I've sent rewards to both Augusto, and our anon friend at NASA/JPL.
Both recipients Augusto and "Nasa man" will be partying tonight for sure. "Small gift" was a pun at best.
No, it's not 80%. But in light of the circumstances, it should be enough to surely pay all their bills this month.
3rac3 offered me something, and I directed her to Augusto & Avenger, she sent something to you.
Mauiflipper has also said he will send something...
I've been sending you requests and corresponding with you, asking for you address to send it to.
You've asked for more every time(Several PM's), without even knowing what was sent. (Seems pretty greedy)
You are making it difficult to reward your efforts.
This is your LAST opportunity to collect the reward I'm offering, which will be exactly the same amount I sent the other two.
Cheers.

[JudgeHearst]

For what it's worth, I'm glad the people who wanted their refunds got their coin back.  And I'm glad this community is willing to watch out for each other regarding scams.  One of these days, I hope it becomes apparent how much a negative community opinion is a self-fulling prophecy, even if the opinion is based on uncertain information.  It would also be nice if we had a more elegant way to approach these questionable situations.  

In the end, CTSMiner is no more.  The only things lost were transactiosn fees, the time spend tro updating the thread, and the truth of whatever intentions were behind the endeavor.  Time to move on to better things.  I heard ASICMiner announced their next chip specs.

Cheshyr, I agree that a more elegant way of processing the grey areas would be a good thing.

That being said, I do not think it can be denied that false representations about a product and service were published with the purpose of consumers relying on said false representations in deciding where to spend their $$$$. Even assuming CTS' recent statements are true and that there were good intentions at root, the good elements were poisoned by deceit. People should be outraged at the arrogance and audacity. People should forgive when appropriate.

As we've discussed before, I am a proponent of identifying and practicing community norms for product announcements and the representations contained therein (including some vetting prior to publishing here).  Norms for engaging and welcoming new participants are also not a bad idea.

Just my opinion.

[augustocroppo]

"REBECCA" SOLD SOME OF THE BTC HE COLLECTED FROM THE SCAM.

Could you prove that?

[Gamer67]

Why are you and the others still pussy footing around. Come right out and say who, what, where and when. Otherwise you are all in on it. I don't understand the continued secrecy.

[sbfree]

this is an awesome whodunnit.....nice distraction from all the mining....let me know who wins.

[Gamer67]

Strange that I can no longer find JNbitcoin on localbitcoin or anywhere else. Profiles have been deleted.


And there is also this:

jnbitcoins

UK Web Design Company. We accept Bitcoin and also Trade Bitcoin. We're on the Bitcoin OTC. Look forward to dealing with you. http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=jnbitcoin