Bitcoin Miners

[railzand]

Is there any connection between this scam:

https://www.facebook.com/jnstudio

Nice find.

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:--QvfRe3HoAJ:https://www.facebook.com/jnstudio/posts/714012268623359+&cd=2&hl=sv&ct=clnk&gl=se

This address is associated with jnbitcoin and jnstudio 1GhnRVmmPVizq7cLmyg6VB7CKwfA9BTFWe

This is one of the addresses which received funds from the 1MLTfBmQ42eTSG5vr4JuSqfHeG13NuygDe address after the fraudulent event:

https://blockchain.info/tree/109606503



1MLTfBmQ42eTSG5vr4JuSqfHeG13NuygDe -> 1FvHmAWYy7DQzHf3tsstbiSnrbbuihsrVn -> 1GhnRVmmPVizq7cLmyg6VB7CKwfA9BTFWe

This address is associated to a nick used in the bitcoin-otc.org Internet page:

http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewgpg.php?nick=jnbitcoin

The nick was also used to open an account in this forum:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=204801

and this one:

HELLO,

After reading all the stuff here, I was curious if Bitcominers give a reaction.
So I ordered 1TH on there page and want to have a invoice for my payment.

This is the result from last week, I want to share it with you.

MY ADVISE, DONT ORDER ANYTHING WITH BITCO MINERS!!!

Hello Sir,

I'm sorry about this delay.
Starting from yesterday, we temporary do not accept Bank Transfers because of frequent cases of fraud activity with Bank Transfer payments. Now we accept Bitcoins only.


Best regards,
Brian Lewish
--
Sales Department,
Bitco Miners



www.bitcominers.com - Advanced hardware for Bitcoin mining



On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 10:27 AM, MCC2014 wrote:
Hello Brian,

I did not get a reaction on my last mail.
We need your company nr and VAT nr, otherwise we need to pay VAT for the goods you deliver.
(mining contract)

Best Regards
MCC2014


From: MCC2014
To: sales@bitcominers.com
Subject: RE: Your Bitco Miners order receipt from January 27, 2014
Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2014 17:26:17 +0100



Hello Brian,

What is your company nr and VATnr?

Best regards
MCC2014

From: sales@bitcominers.com
Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2014 11:14:23 +0000
Subject: Re: Your Bitco Miners order receipt from January 27, 2014
To: MCC2014

Sir,

Yes, we know that some person who don't even our customer and annoyed because he did not got what he want on his own conditions has posted a pointless remarks. It seems like he just wants to promote his Bitcoin club. Please do not take it seriously.

Please find attached invoice.


Best regards,
Brian Lewish
--
Sales Department,
Bitco Miners



www.bitcominers.com - Advanced hardware for Bitcoin mining



On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 9:26 AM,MCC2014 wrote:

Hello Brian Lewish,

I read a lot of negative stuf about your company, WHY??
Can you provide me with a invoice (or pro-invoice) I need this because I pay from my company bankaccount
and only a order isn't enough.

Best regards

MCC2014

From: sales@bitcominers.com
Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2014 22:52:16 +0000
Subject: Re: Your Bitco Miners order receipt from January 27, 2014
To: MCC2014


Hello MCC2014,

Please make a bank transfer using details below.

Janis Construction Ltd.
IBAN: GB93 BARC 2095 6100 6377 34
BIC/Swift code: BARCGB22
Bank Name: BARCLAYS BANK PLC
Branch address: 46A Ballards Lane, Finchley, London, N3 2BB, United Kingdom

*some countries requires 11-digit Swift Code. In this case please use BARCGB22XXX

Payment reference: Order #xxxxx

Amount: $2,250.00

After sending of bank transfer, please let us know (and send the copy of receipt, if it is possible), so we can track your payment and proceed the order as soon as possible.



Best regards,
Brian Lewish
--
Sales Department,
Bitco Miners



www.bitcominers.com - Advanced hardware for Bitcoin mining



On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 11:53 AM, MCC2014 wrote:

Hello,

Can you provide me with the bankdetails, and give me a call!!

Best regards

MCC2014


Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2014 11:51:28 +0000
To: MCC2014
From: sales@bitcominers.com
Subject: Your Bitco Miners order receipt from January 27, 2014


Thank you for your order
Your order has been received and is now being processed. Your order details are shown below for your reference:
Please contact our Sales Department (sales@bitcominers.com) to get the payment details for the Bank Transfer.
Include your order number in payment reference/description (“Order #XXXX”)

...? i.e. between Janis Construction and jnstudio/jnbitcoin?

[Gamer67]

I don't think there is any apart from the UK connection. The Bitco guys are probably European due to the broken English. The twats in this escapade were American

[Searing]

Hi, do you know Phoenix just from this forum or did you both collaborate on some sort of science project in a Yahoo group?

from KNC miner forum since oct 18th he helped folks setup their miners back then and other stuff some for KNC itself

others have known him for longer on bitcoin talk ask them

yeah we skype....mainly it started on if to get more 2nd order KNC stuff in Nov/Dec and or if Neptunes made sense

anyone wants to skype me about something feel free to pm me (no offers yet...i'm sooo lonely) heh

anyhoo ...he is well known on the KNC Swedish Mining forum on bitcointalk.com that is also where i started back in the day

not sure about a yahoo group you refer to?

Searing

[Searing]

All,

I have been monitoring this thread and also replying to personal messages as I have no way of getting in touch with people due to the website being closed down.

Yes that 4.78 BTC transaction was for a pre-order of a miner from gokou2001 and I have been in touch with gokou2001 to arrange his refund.

After going through all BTC that were received for this project, I now feel confident that with this refund that I am looking to issue now, all refunds will have been issued to everyone who placed a pre-order with me.

I shall update the forum with a TXID once the refund has been issued as I have done previously after issuing the last refunds.
I am also looking to part ways from this forum and bitcoin altogether after I have done so.

Michael


EDIT - The full refund to gokou2001 (which is the last of all refunds to be made) has been sent.
The Transaction is here ..

https://blockchain.info/tx/6b5c40d5afd5b3409344408cf2e52aedbe6452adb944f8bb556cd433feb4e2ea

er rebecca/micheal ...er side gender issues aside i'd like you/her to put the matter of www.ctsminer.com as a scam or not to rest...see below:

I would like to take this time to ask you to post a video of your 5TH prototype you said you had running before the www.ctsminer.com site was taken down....even if it is just a FPGA proof
of concept machine...we would like to see such to settle once and for all if you are a scammer or just as you state a person with too large of expectations on making a miner.

I assume if you do not want to show the prototype working and such as you stated you had completed...this will likely result in you forever being linked to www.ctsminer.com as a scam

and of course if thru your efforts you have an actual prototype 5TH unit that actually works...well hell...nothing wrong with that ...surely it softens the www.ctsminer.com dream loss right?


we await your reply with baited breath

er and which ever gender you choose to reply with is fine... a youtube video would be my suggestion for prosperity sake on all this

Searing

You are either clueless or spreading fud.

find an archive of www.ctsminer.com ...the last day or so they announced they had a working prototype...i'd like to see his 5TH prototype myself.....it don't exist...but he claims to be legit..prove it ..I'm sure others on here saw the same plug in the news area of www.ctsminer.com before the site died or have saved the site (hopefully)

i'm myself am beginning to think you yourself are rebecca/mike....seems i say something people have seen on here and you try to kill the messenger interesting huh?

anyway ask around I know it is not just me who saw the plug they had a working prototype i'd like mike/rebecca to show us this fine piece of machinery

Searing

p.s. here is what comes up on a simple google search of the ctsminer prototype jan 22nd

https://www.google.com/search?q=ctsminer.com&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a#q=ctsminer.com+prototype&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official

1st thing that comes up in the above search...i quote:

Prototype 1 Testing Complete | CTS Miner - 20nm Bitcoin Mining ...

www.ctsminer.com/prototype-1-testing-complete/‎
Jan 22, 2014 - 24 hours of testing prototype 1 is now complete! Some small adjustments to be made for prototype 2, which will be built by friday.

er by the by seeings how i'm now fairly sure you are rebecca/mike you are now on /ignore
i mean i'm sure people are sick of us ..knocking around accusations about each other on here
so feel free to reply..I won't see it ...but always good to get things out of your system
...but this game of tag with you is at an end....feel free to poke others on here however...one should be allowed to have a hobby lame as it may be

it is sad however i will not likely see thie miracle of technology the 5TH ctsminer...but thems the breaks...

Searing

[raskul]

I don't think there is any apart from the UK connection. The Bitco guys are probably European due to the broken English. The twats in this escapade were American

[ThrowMeAway114]

Jay Watcham
JN Studio
60 Peake Avenue
Kirby Cross
FRINTON-ON-SEA
CO13 0SQ
Telephone 01255 411011
Born: May 1992
Nationality: BRITISH


Many of his references to Bitcoin have now been deleted eg.
http://www.jnstudio.co.uk/blog/jn-studio-now-accept-bitcoins/

---

Is someone who originally lost money going to file a police report?
If this guy is did it, he should do some time, its going to be probably over 12 months bearing in mind the amount involved and sophistication of the scam.

[wwwin]

You are either clueless or spreading fud.

I vote that is spreading fud.

[raskul]

Jay Watcham
JN Studio
60 Peake Avenue
Kirby Cross
FRINTON-ON-SEA
CO13 0SQ
Telephone 01255 411011
Born: May 1992
Nationality: BRITISH


Many of his references to Bitcoin have now been deleted eg.
http://www.jnstudio.co.uk/blog/jn-studio-now-accept-bitcoins/

---

Is someone who originally lost money going to file a police report?
If this guy is did it, he should do some time, its going to be probably over 12 months bearing in mind the amount involved and sophistication of the scam.

reported...

reported...

goodnight hawaii

[wwwin]

Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2014 11:51:28 +0000
To: MCC2014
From: sales@bitcominers.com
Subject: Your Bitco Miners order receipt from January 27, 2014


Thank you for your order
Your order has been received and is now being processed. Your order details are shown below for your reference:
Please contact our Sales Department (sales@bitcominers.com) to get the payment details for the Bank Transfer.
Include your order number in payment reference/description (“Order #XXXX”)

...? i.e. between Janis Construction and jnstudio/jnbitcoin?

Good find..this bitcominers.com is selling 600ghs monarch for $4,680.00 "on sale", says 12 available and does not say it's pre-order.
BFL sells it for $2,196 on pre-order basis without really giving delivery time....Scam alert...has anybody posted on the forum about bitcominers.com so we can check if someone pumped it?
http://www.bitcominers.com/shop/butterfly-monarch-bpu-600-c-bitcoin-mining-card-600-ghs-copy/

Also this from these scammers

"
To the attention of customers who ordered Bitco Forcer 4TH/s miners


To the attention of customers who ordered Bitco Forcer 4TH/s miners.
 We have been working hard to release our first batch of Bitco Forcer 4 TH/s ASIC 4U Rack Mount Miners. Starting from the beggining of development we faced a lot of unexpected difficulties that were overcome through perseverance and belief of our team.
As you know, we scheduled the first batch on 10th of Jan, 2014.
At this moment we are on final stage of development – assemblage and final testing of the units. We did our best to meet the deadline, but de facto we need some additional time that will take from 5 to 7 days.
 We understand that specific Bitcoin market require a fast actions and every day is important here. We would like you to consider to this short delay. Our specialists work almost round the clock to complete the batch as soon as possible.
Upon completion you will be informed about readiness of shipment of devices.
Thank you.
Bitco Miners Team
 
"

Anybody ordered these 4TH MINERS??

[wwwin]

not sure about a yahoo group you refer to?

Searing

Any yahoo group...but this one in particular...http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Freddys_Cell/info

phoenix has stated in article someone posted earlier in thread.

"Even on PESN they complain that Freddy was not sharing the plans like he said, but absolutely all of what I have told you tonight is online, and I know it is because I live in a remote area, and the internet has been my only connection to the outside world for the last 8 years. He even released a solid works CAD design layout of the unit, in complete 3-D, which actually plays like a video to give you an ultimate view of the production unit, as well as the exact dimensions of every single piece. I got this right off yahoo groups Freddy cell study group, right where he said it would be. But I can tell you right now, you're not going to be able to make that unit in your garage unless you happen to have a machine shop in your garage, next to your welder and your pipe cutter, and your frequency analyzer, that's across from your electronics bench, where you'll be developing your PWM and soldering micro circuitry. In my opinion, $5,500 bucks is a steal of a deal"

I thought you had posted earlier in the thread when you started vouching for Phoenix that you also collaborated with him in a science project or maybe it was him saying collaborated with you on science project.. I thought I read that somewhere in this thread.

LOL, he even says is a steal of a deal.

glad somebody had a brain in that group, bad grammar and all     http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Freddys_Cell/conversations/messages/3075

"Now it has went up $2000 and no 3rd party verification.
 Not even a prototype shown.
 How many here will fork out $5500 for an unproven product?
"

[wwwin]

I am just wondering how the scammers found out about this Mickey Mouse Peryeamarketing.com with a Wisconsin area code that put out the press release...

There are no sites linking to their site...didn't see it in the early pages of Google search for PR firm? CTS site went up first last week, so no chance for Peryea to send email asking if they want a PR. What is the connection, if any?

https://www.google.com/#q=link:www.peryeamarketing.com

[Phoenix1969]

not sure about a yahoo group you refer to?

Searing

Any yahoo group...but this one in particular...http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Freddys_Cell/info

phoenix has stated in article someone posted earlier in thread.

"Even on PESN they complain that Freddy was not sharing the plans like he said, but absolutely all of what I have told you tonight is online, and I know it is because I live in a remote area, and the internet has been my only connection to the outside world for the last 8 years. He even released a solid works CAD design layout of the unit, in complete 3-D, which actually plays like a video to give you an ultimate view of the production unit, as well as the exact dimensions of every single piece. I got this right off yahoo groups Freddy cell study group, right where he said it would be. But I can tell you right now, you're not going to be able to make that unit in your garage unless you happen to have a machine shop in your garage, next to your welder and your pipe cutter, and your frequency analyzer, that's across from your electronics bench, where you'll be developing your PWM and soldering micro circuitry. In my opinion, $5,500 bucks is a steal of a deal"

I thought you had posted earlier in the thread when you started vouching for Phoenix that you also collaborated with him in a science project or maybe it was him saying collaborated with you on science project.. I thought I read that somewhere in this thread.

LOL, he even says is a steal of a deal.

glad somebody had a brain in that group, bad grammar and all     http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Freddys_Cell/conversations/messages/3075

"Now it has went up $2000 and no 3rd party verification.
 Not even a prototype shown.
 How many here will fork out $5500 for an unproven product?
"

wwwin, like I said in an earlier post, that information is outdated, YEARS old, and mostly incorrect.
The Resonant water-fuel-cell project is a global non-profit private group now, which doesn't share anything with the public hardly, with the exception of the watercartwo group. Mine is closed to all outsiders, and has been for two years. No, there never was a water car from "Fast Freddy"... he was a total ripper, and still owes our group member who paid for a cell kit that was never viable. We are a research group, not sellers of anything, only buyers, always were.


***  I came in here scouting for an individual who in the KNC thread, donated  .02568467 btc to me on Monday.
The moderator has since deleted the post in that thread, and I'm having trouble finding him.
Does anyone remember who it was so I can send it back?

[wwwin]

not sure about a yahoo group you refer to?

Searing

Any yahoo group...but this one in particular...http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Freddys_Cell/info

phoenix has stated in article someone posted earlier in thread.

"Even on PESN they complain that Freddy was not sharing the plans like he said, but absolutely all of what I have told you tonight is online, and I know it is because I live in a remote area, and the internet has been my only connection to the outside world for the last 8 years. He even released a solid works CAD design layout of the unit, in complete 3-D, which actually plays like a video to give you an ultimate view of the production unit, as well as the exact dimensions of every single piece. I got this right off yahoo groups Freddy cell study group, right where he said it would be. But I can tell you right now, you're not going to be able to make that unit in your garage unless you happen to have a machine shop in your garage, next to your welder and your pipe cutter, and your frequency analyzer, that's across from your electronics bench, where you'll be developing your PWM and soldering micro circuitry. In my opinion, $5,500 bucks is a steal of a deal"

I thought you had posted earlier in the thread when you started vouching for Phoenix that you also collaborated with him in a science project or maybe it was him saying collaborated with you on science project.. I thought I read that somewhere in this thread.

LOL, he even says is a steal of a deal.

glad somebody had a brain in that group, bad grammar and all     http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Freddys_Cell/conversations/messages/3075

"Now it has went up $2000 and no 3rd party verification.
 Not even a prototype shown.
 How many here will fork out $5500 for an unproven product?
"

wwwin, like I said in an earlier post, that information is outdated, YEARS old, and mostly incorrect.
The Resonant water-fuel-cell project is a global non-profit private group now, which doesn't share anything with the public hardly, with the exception of the watercartwo group. Mine is closed to all outsiders, and has been for two years. No, there never was a water car from "Fast Freddy"... he was a total ripper, and still owes our group member who paid for a cell kit that was never viable. We are a research group, not sellers of anything, only buyers, always were.


***  I came in here scouting for an individual who in the KNC thread, donated  .02568467 btc to me on Monday.
The moderator has since deleted the post in that thread, and I'm having trouble finding him.
Does anyone remember who it was so I can send it back?

Yeah, I know you posted that, I was just asking if Searing was in that group because he said "what yahoo group" or if you only know him from the thread and nothing else, that's all. Thanks.

PS. If the moderator deleted the post, does not that mean that they don't want donation stuff posted?

[Phoenix1969]

oooh, no I met Searing in the KNC thread....

[raskul]

oooh, no I met Searing in the KNC thread.... there is two in here from the resonant group... but it's not "my place" to tell you who it is... they will have to choose to share that info himself/themselves , and no, before anyone gets crazy... he/they ever met "freddy" either, although we both (2 of us)wasted thousands building and testing his worthless design.... But we did learn a few things from it.
My hope is a totally different source really.... Nickel-Hydrogen reaction cells, (LENR technology)which have made much more progress. This is too far off- topic probably, so that's all I'm spouting....

OK, I get it... just seems to me that before I would recommend something as a steal of a deal at $5,500 to the public, that I would be sure that it was not a scam. You represented yourself as an expert in that article and radio show. That is quite a bit of money to the average person. That's all.

this.
still wondering the bank balance, as well as the btc wallets

[wwwin]

oooh, no I met Searing in the KNC thread.... there is two in here from the resonant group... but it's not "my place" to tell you who it is... they will have to choose to share that info himself/themselves , and no, before anyone gets crazy... he/they ever met "freddy" either, although we both (2 of us)wasted thousands building and testing his worthless design.... But we did learn a few things from it.
My hope is a totally different source really.... Nickel-Hydrogen reaction cells, (LENR technology)which have made much more progress and is in commercial use already. This is too far off- topic probably, so that's all I'm spouting....

OK, I get it, it was the other person that vouched for you and posted they knew you from the project, but that person disappeared after all hell broke loose here, I think it was the person who said I was angry and to go bent somewhere else, I remember now, it may have been Cypher, .... just seems to me that before I would recommend something as a steal of a deal at $5,500 to the public, that I would be sure that it was not a scam. You represented yourself as an expert in that article and radio show. That is quite a bit of money to the average person. That's all.

yeah I stand corrected it was Cypher...


Quote from: Phoenix1969 on January 25, 2014, 11:48:34 PM

I suggest we all donate a bit to Cypher to go check them out.

lol avenger... It wasn't nearly what Mauiflipper experienced...
but I certainly got a chuckle out of that.


I'll start...

Cypher...      .1 btc on the way...  cheers

[lemonte]

not sure about a yahoo group you refer to?

Searing

Any yahoo group...but this one in particular...http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Freddys_Cell/info

phoenix has stated in article someone posted earlier in thread.

"Even on PESN they complain that Freddy was not sharing the plans like he said, but absolutely all of what I have told you tonight is online, and I know it is because I live in a remote area, and the internet has been my only connection to the outside world for the last 8 years. He even released a solid works CAD design layout of the unit, in complete 3-D, which actually plays like a video to give you an ultimate view of the production unit, as well as the exact dimensions of every single piece. I got this right off yahoo groups Freddy cell study group, right where he said it would be. But I can tell you right now, you're not going to be able to make that unit in your garage unless you happen to have a machine shop in your garage, next to your welder and your pipe cutter, and your frequency analyzer, that's across from your electronics bench, where you'll be developing your PWM and soldering micro circuitry. In my opinion, $5,500 bucks is a steal of a deal"

I thought you had posted earlier in the thread when you started vouching for Phoenix that you also collaborated with him in a science project or maybe it was him saying collaborated with you on science project.. I thought I read that somewhere in this thread.

LOL, he even says is a steal of a deal.

glad somebody had a brain in that group, bad grammar and all     http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Freddys_Cell/conversations/messages/3075

"Now it has went up $2000 and no 3rd party verification.
 Not even a prototype shown.
 How many here will fork out $5500 for an unproven product?
"

wwwin, like I said in an earlier post, that information is outdated, YEARS old, and mostly incorrect.
The Resonant water-fuel-cell project is a global non-profit private group now, which doesn't share anything with the public hardly, with the exception of the watercartwo group. Mine is closed to all outsiders, and has been for two years. No, there never was a water car from "Fast Freddy"... he was a total ripper, and still owes our group member who paid for a cell kit that was never viable. We are a research group, not sellers of anything, only buyers, always were.


***  I came in here scouting for an individual who in the KNC thread, donated  .02568467 btc to me on Monday.
The moderator has since deleted the post in that thread, and I'm having trouble finding him.
Does anyone remember who it was so I can send it back?

I donated, but not that much! Cheers

[Phoenix1969]

Aaah, yes.. lemonte...   cool.... What was the amount plz? I'd like to send it back...  since they returned everything...    
looks like .025 ish here....
I couldn't remember your username for the life of me... lol

*I promised the mod I wouldn't post off-topic, just so if anyone wonders... PM if off-topic.

[augustocroppo]

Jay Watcham
JN Studio
60 Peake Avenue
Kirby Cross
FRINTON-ON-SEA
CO13 0SQ
Telephone 01255 411011
Born: May 1992
Nationality: BRITISH


Many of his references to Bitcoin have now been deleted eg.
http://www.jnstudio.co.uk/blog/jn-studio-now-accept-bitcoins/

Good catch! Here is the erased page:

It is a snapshot of the page as it appeared on 19 Jan 2014 15:10:48 GMT.

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:s6eQPGaBRkoJ:www.jnstudio.co.uk/blog/jn-studio-now-accept-bitcoins/+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=uk&lr=lang_en%7Clang_pt

https://i.imgur.com/ceQDGEg.png

This is the company register of JN Studio:

http://www.companiesintheuk.co.uk/ltd/jn-studio

[Phoenix1969]

also...
https://bitbargain.co.uk/buy/request/4059?amount=1