[ANN][KARM] Karmacoin - New Initiatives - Helping People Do Good

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[ShawnLeary]

Here's one with the elephant, lotus beneath and the Karmacoin Symbol...

this is the coin, its cute, it brings it all together.  I like!!!!

now if you could spell Karma in binary and have that around the coin, it would be off the chain

karma =  0110101101100001011100100110110101100001

[Lemma]

Here's one with the elephant, lotus beneath and the Karmacoin Symbol...

http://i61.tinypic.com/b7yxb7.jpg

this is the coin, its cute, it brings it all together.  I like!!!!

now if you could spell Karma in binary and have that around the coin, it would be off the chain

karma =  0110101101100001011100100110110101100001

This one's pretty good, but it seems we've come full circle to the cute elephant design (initiated by august25, whose design I also liked).

Also, it looks like it says "Kook" with the K's by the elephant's feet...

[jtpeters]

As someone with years of marketing experience working for the biggest ad agency in the world, I would suggest staying away from symbolism like a dharma wheel.

A white elephant outline is neutral, and would work much better (as a brand) than something that means different things to different people (and would cause many others to become indifferent to Karmacoin).

i.e., come up with something new. The elephant is good. Just make it outstanding and emotionally appealing.

The simpler the logo the better. If I was to design it, I would do something completely different. A blue and red logo like the old Pepsi logo but leaning towards a horizontal yin-yang and getting rid of the dots. Also, there's no need to put "Karmacoin" on the logo. (Such is the sign of an amateur.) The text can go next to it, on the right side.

This makes for a familiar symbol but still something new. Thing big picture and long term. As in, what symbol would make a 9 year-old in the Kenyan highlands smile when they see it just as well as an adult in Shoreditch?

Nevermind what you like. The question is, what would most of your potential users like?

A good logo could mean the difference between success and failure of a company (or coin). (But again, it's not what you think is good...)

its funny how you say that karmacoin should stay away from symbolism and then point to the pepsi logo (which is nothing more than a cheap knockoff of yinyang with the colors changed) as a good example.. lol
yinyang is a religious symbol used in both Daoism and Confucianism.. it also represents a balance of forces (light, dark, good, evil, man, woman etc) which is at odds with the Karma coin motto of "doing good is good" lol

please do not mix Karma with Dao they are completely different ideas and messages
it would be like calling your Coin the RepublicCoin and then using a Crown as your logo or having Easter coin with a picture of a Dog on it.

I agree simplicity is good and I agree that the elephant should stay.. having a mascot will help the cause.. so we should keep the message simple and NOT try to confuse people by mixing symbolism and ideologies.

Well aware. I used to teach Tao te Ching in China (where I live now).

I was suggesting coming up with a new symbol that seems familiar rather than "symbolism like a dharma wheel". No need to be technical about the origins of the Pepsi logo or doing something similar. we're going for emotional appeal, not relating the logo to history. I always go what has worked in some way for others. (Only the world's first logo was an original)

How about a black/white elephant? (An elephant head with the left side black and right side white, for example?)

I respectfully disagree. I majored in Marketing as part of my Commerce degree. I simply don't understand how an elephant, yet alone the Ying and Yang symbol (not even remotely connected with Karma guys) is a better option than a Dharma Wheel. If anyone has done Religious Studies at University or perhaps even studdied Buddhism or Hinduism you will know about Dharma and Karma - it makes perfect sense to have the dharma wheel on the logo for a coin called KARMA, it makes no sense to have a monochrome elephant or something equally unrelated and bland.

We are showing ourselves to be massively ignorant by putting Yin Yang on the KARMA coin and a cute looking elephant simply means nothing to anyone. Remember folks, 25% of the worlds population is either Hindu or Buddhist - the Dharma wheel means something to these people and they will appreciate a coin that uses the name KARMA being informed enough to include the dharma wheel on its logo. It means nothing to the rest of us and that's fine, but there is absolutely no downside to being intelligent and using a symbol that is relevant and makes perfect sense.

Those who don't know the in's and out's of Karma and Dharma only need to like the look of the logo, it is far more pleasing to look at than a black and white elephant or a squiggle jotted down that may or may not look like an elephant - that once again has nothing to do with Karma in the slightest.

Anyone who doesn't 'approve' of said religious connotations will stop at the name KARMA coin - they won't give a shit about the logo, their mind will be made up already. These people are few and far between and we need not pay them any mind.

Let's see what everyone else thinks however, this is a decision that needs to be made by the community - if it does come down to a vote however it needs to be done whereby you get 1 initial vote and then an extra vote for every 1 million coins you hold - as verified by a screenshot included in the post. This is a business decision and those with huge stocks of KARMA must have a proportionately larger say than those with nothing or next to nothing as it is their money that is on the line.

do you see the Pepsi logo (old or new) as being yin-yang?

I wasn't suggesting yin-yang, but yin-yang-like. Like Pepsi's old logo.

A degree means nothing. No offense, but a few decades of real experience in marketing beats a degree any day. You probably have at least 20 of my brands right now in your home.

But at the end of the day it's not about what you like or I like. We must test our theories with the general public (or our target market) instead of making assumptions about what people will like.

[CryptoMF]

Here's one with the elephant, lotus beneath and the Karmacoin Symbol...

this is the coin, its cute, it brings it all together.  I like!!!!

now if you could spell Karma in binary and have that around the coin, it would be off the chain

karma =  0110101101100001011100100110110101100001

Perhaps we should step back for a second and compare this logo to any other coins out there. What are the differences and similarities? What are we doing that they don't and why (good or bad)? What do we really need to be doing to convey the message we want and is it really necessary to have certain things on the coin logo? Do they really matter? Do they need to be there? Are we trying to win an art contest or are we trying to make a recognizable basic image? Are we doing too much or too little?

My first impression is that it should a be simple and minimalist approach. 90% of the things people really won't see or care about and may not really need to be on the logo. I am not trying to criticize anything or anyone. I think it is awesome that everyone has ideas about the design and really seem to care about getting it right. Let's get it right this time. We don't necessarily need to be the prettiest coin or the cutest or the most colorful or the most detailed. We all want something that we can feel good about and be happy to show others interested in the coin. At the same time we need to be thinking about how others will see this and the first impression it leaves on them.

The more eyes we have on these designs the better so let's all have people we know take a look at some of these designs for our coin as well as the other coins out there and get as much feedback as possible to help make the right choice. If we don't get the perfect logo it is not the end of the world. It is important but in the grand scheme of things it is the community and what we can do with the actual coin that is much much more important. IMHO.  

[jtpeters]

Are we interested in making a colorful logo, or just another coin logo?

We don't need to put it into the shape of a coin, do we? Why not do something different that is more global, to attract a more people than "just another coin"?

[forzendiablo]

maybe ask SUN guys to make a logo? they have decent one

[jtpeters]

Here's one with the elephant, lotus beneath and the Karmacoin Symbol...

http://i61.tinypic.com/b7yxb7.jpg

What do you think of just the elephant holding a coin under its feet so that it makes an "8" shape, with the word "Karmacoin" to the right of it (without anything else)?

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[CryptoMF]

Here's one with the elephant, lotus beneath and the Karmacoin Symbol...

What do you think of just the elephant holding a coin under its feet so that it makes an "8" shape, with the word "Karmacoin" to the right of it (without anything else)?

I think this might be too close to the current logo. I literally cringe when I look at that image on my task bar and hope no one looking at my screen sees it there.

[jwcplanet]

this is the coin, its cute, it brings it all together.  I like!!!!

now if you could spell Karma in binary and have that around the coin, it would be off the chain

karma =  0110101101100001011100100110110101100001

How's this...

[jwcplanet]

I moved the "K" to the middle of the coin so it doesn't look like KOOK lol

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[jwcplanet]

Added a smile to the elephant...

[Alphi]

this one would be really good for watermarks and logos at the bottom of pages, like the KarmaCoin Accepted here logo etc

[Karmagood]

These logo designs are awesome!

We added a new section to the upcoming site where people can vote on which one they like the most.  We can use the same voting feature for future community decisions as well.

Thanks

[jwcplanet]

These logo designs are awesome!

We added a new section to the upcoming site where people can vote on which one they like the most.  We can use the same voting feature for future community decisions as well.

Thanks

Awesome, can't wait to see the site!

Karmagood, If you need me to help with any graphics for the site let me know!

[Karmagood]

These logo designs are awesome!

We added a new section to the upcoming site where people can vote on which one they like the most.  We can use the same voting feature for future community decisions as well.

Thanks

Awesome, can't wait to see the site!

Karmagood, If you need me to help with any graphics for the site let me know!

Great! We can definitely use some help.  Can you take a look at the pre-released site and let us know about colors/etc before we put it out there?  I will set up a link tomorrow for you it will still be hidden from the world while we finish/test- sorry everyone).  Let me know if you can

Thanks