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Author Topic: btc-arbs.com - Update: dead HYIP, Refund progress: BTC-arbs still doing refunds  (Read 254178 times)
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June 04, 2014, 06:52:54 PM
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i do not understand. If this is all true, and the BTC-Arbs guy is not a fake guy, why does he need everyone to write him a message and claim for their bitcoins?

Dont he have his own history, where he can see which acc had how many bitcoins deposited?

why cant he send everyone an e-mail, to the email acc you had to register with and tell them that they can contact him for repay? Why publish this message here?

And why should he repay the small debts first? I think the bigger ones are the real danger! Seriously, who would threat his family for 500 $??? -right, no one would get his hands dirty for 1-2 bitcoins, but for more.

So i dont see an solution by repaying all the small debts, he will still be in danger.

So all this must be a huge fake. Maybe by someone who tries to find out how many bitcoins were invested...


Each day you guys are not investigating because you are trusting someone in here who claims he will repay but do not give you a true evidence, is a wasted day. Each day is blurring even more the traces...

He just wants to silence some people it seems. Kind of funny to be paying a few people here on this forum and that is all you hear about. Slightly irritating, I feel like this thread is going to be active with this refund nonsense till next year.

Notice: I have good source that some users have been paid already. I don´t know if everyone gonna be, but if someone did, why not some rest? So be free to get out this "nonsense", no?  Wink

I'm suspicious because the people I was speaking with about sharing information on the admin were some of the first to be paid off by the admin. Doesn't make sense for the admin to create an account on the forum and start doing refunds through the forum. How about the rest of the members? Strange. He's paying off a select few here and there. You don't hear about any refunds through traditional HYIP sources and people who were members of btc-arbs on other sites.
Whatever, I can said for real they refund some users until now.

We all know some users have been refunded, but we also know there are more btc-arbs members than I can count on my fingers.

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June 04, 2014, 07:15:21 PM
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So now I was just refunded! I got my BTC back!  Cheesy and a PM from btc-arbs with notice. So keep you fingers on! maybe you will need your feets too! Wink
ID Transcc: e981953aa2347396b71f933d077aeeb4ac4b824d7d1023b97a6dc9d20a3bada3-000
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June 04, 2014, 07:18:20 PM
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So now I was just refunded! I got my BTC back!  Cheesy and a PM from btc-arbs with notice. So keep you fingers on! maybe you will need your feets too! Wink
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Congratulations cronos7, could you please update your info on the spreadsheet including the date/time you sent your messages to the admin?

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June 04, 2014, 07:33:10 PM
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One of the main challenges that I'm experiencing is that the copy of the database that I have is old. The most recent version was corrupted by hackers. Therefore, each refund requires information from the user, which is then cross referenced with data from the old database and the public blockchain. Furthermore, I need to know which address to send the refund to.

To complicate the situation more, during the initial hacking, many deposits were sent to the Bitcoin addresses of the hackers. By providing your information by email or PM, you are helping to create an accurate ledger of balances.

From the Google refund document, you can see that I am not exclusively paying tiny balances. Freejack has received 4 bitcoins of his original 27 bitcoin deposit back, and he is one of the largest investors.

More refunds have been sent today.  Please do not send attachments to the refund email address.
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June 04, 2014, 07:37:46 PM
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So now I was just refunded! I got my BTC back!  Cheesy and a PM from btc-arbs with notice. So keep you fingers on! maybe you will need your feets too! Wink
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Congratulations cronos7, could you please update your info on the spreadsheet including the date/time you sent your messages to the admin?
Yes, of course. I sended today 6-7 hours ago, both email and PM from here. I add the trans ID in both messages.
Good luck to you!
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June 04, 2014, 07:43:23 PM
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One of the main challenges that I'm experiencing is that the copy of the database that I have is old. The most recent version was corrupted by hackers. Therefore, each refund requires information from the user, which is then cross referenced with data from the old database and the public blockchain. Furthermore, I need to know which address to send the refund to.

To complicate the situation more, during the initial hacking, many deposits were sent to the Bitcoin addresses of the hackers. By providing your information by email or PM, you are helping to create an accurate ledger of balances.

From the Google refund document, you can see that I am not exclusively paying tiny balances. Freejack has received 4 bitcoins of his original 27 bitcoin deposit back, and he is one of the largest investors.

More refunds have been sent today.  Please do not send attachments to the refund email address.


Most of the people who have received back their investment have less than 1 BTC invested.
If I'm correct, Freejack had invested 27 BTC and he was able to substract 2.2 already when the site was still up, he now has recieved two payments of 1BTC each.

What I think is strange is that you seem to payout at random, there are people who sent you a message today who received payments but there are very much users who sent messages earlier (of which I am one) who haven't received anything yet.

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June 04, 2014, 07:45:12 PM
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It would be nice to know what your logic is on who gets paid back when..... Also, question of the day -- was your name really Adam?
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June 04, 2014, 07:57:30 PM
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I have troubles finding my transaction ID's, I made three transactions from an exchange so I didn't sent them from one wallet address. Since the wallet address of BTC-Arbs was changing with each transaction I am only able to find the last transaction.

Any tips? the exchange is: Kraken.

Transaction 1: 0,1 BTC
Transaction 2: 0,15 BTC
Transaction 3: 0,3315 BTC      https://blockchain.info/address/1FJ52dyn7jqqxPv9EmUuVsLHTfhdvWZwrE
Total: 0.5815 BTC

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June 04, 2014, 08:04:07 PM
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Yes...in the interest of accuracy, it was "Ron James and the Nonexistent Capital Alliance" who refunded me a total of 2.2 Bitcoin over the course of like three weeks. Since the refunds via Bitcointalk.org started, I have received two Bitcoin (well, 1.9998) and I have received nothing, today.

One of the main challenges that I'm experiencing is that the copy of the database that I have is old. The most recent version was corrupted by hackers. Therefore, each refund requires information from the user, which is then cross referenced with data from the old database and the public blockchain. Furthermore, I need to know which address to send the refund to.

To complicate the situation more, during the initial hacking, many deposits were sent to the Bitcoin addresses of the hackers. By providing your information by email or PM, you are helping to create an accurate ledger of balances.

From the Google refund document, you can see that I am not exclusively paying tiny balances. Freejack has received 4 bitcoins of his original 27 bitcoin deposit back, and he is one of the largest investors.

More refunds have been sent today.  Please do not send attachments to the refund email address.


Most of the people who have received back their investment have less than 1 BTC invested.
If I'm correct, Freejack had invested 27 BTC and he was able to substract 2.2 already when the site was still up, he now has recieved two payments of 1BTC each.

What I think is strange is that you seem to payout at random, there are people who sent you a message today who received payments but there are very much users who sent messages earlier (of which I am one) who haven't received anything yet.
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June 04, 2014, 08:11:12 PM
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I have troubles finding my transaction ID's, I made three transactions from an exchange so I didn't sent them from one wallet address. Since the wallet address of BTC-Arbs was changing with each transaction I am only able to find the last transaction.

Any tips? the exchange is: Kraken.

Transaction 1: 0,1 BTC
Transaction 2: 0,15 BTC
Transaction 3: 0,3315 BTC      https://blockchain.info/address/1FJ52dyn7jqqxPv9EmUuVsLHTfhdvWZwrE
Total: 0.5815 BTC

Transaction IDs should be somewhere in your Kraken withdrawal overview.
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June 04, 2014, 08:21:48 PM
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I hope u guys receive ur bitcoins back like I did (0.1 BTC )

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June 04, 2014, 08:38:31 PM
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It would be nice to know what your logic is on who gets paid back when..... Also, question of the day -- was your name really Adam?

When you ask that, it makes me laugh and realize how trusting I was of btc-arbs. I'm hopeful that I might have my btc returned, but I have no real expectations at this point. Glad I'm not so fumed about it anymore.
Bought some NAUT and Dirac so hopefully I will make enough returns off those eventually to cover my losses.

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June 04, 2014, 08:58:53 PM
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It would be nice to know what your logic is on who gets paid back when..... Also, question of the day -- was your name really Adam?

I too would like to know exactly how the logic works as well. Initially I was afraid he would just pay back those that had traced out his real info and vanish again but I'm pretty comfortable thinking that whoever does have the info will share it if that does happen and some of us are still left off these truly random repayments..
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June 04, 2014, 09:12:50 PM
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That's the thing...the cat's pretty much out of the bag, at this point. I think he knows that he has a "mob" on his hands and its in his best interests to make sure people are at least paid back what they sent him. I see several people on the spreadsheet who are in double-digits owed and I'm sure all of us are pretty motivated to see restitution happen...so organizing something more formal/legal wouldn't probably be a huge challenge. It'd take time, legal wranglings always do...but you'd better believe that punitive damages would be on the table for everyone, as we've all lost the use of that Bitcoin and the ability to trade, increase our earnings, buy mining equipment or whatever the case may be.

He'll want to avoid that eventuality, so I have no doubt that he's going to attempt to make good on the debts. I do believe that he actually IS earning money via arbitrage (I also believed he was, in the beginnings of the site) and that is how he's repaying the debt. I don't know that the hacking story holds a lot of water, for me; but it doesn't really matter how the money was lost...it's gone, either way.

I'm not going to be real thrilled if more days keep passing without my seeing anything hit my wallet, though...I can tell you that.
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June 04, 2014, 09:38:28 PM
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One of the main challenges that I'm experiencing is that the copy of the database that I have is old. The most recent version was corrupted by hackers. Therefore, each refund requires information from the user, which is then cross referenced with data from the old database and the public blockchain. Furthermore, I need to know which address to send the refund to.

To complicate the situation more, during the initial hacking, many deposits were sent to the Bitcoin addresses of the hackers. By providing your information by email or PM, you are helping to create an accurate ledger of balances.

From the Google refund document, you can see that I am not exclusively paying tiny balances. Freejack has received 4 bitcoins of his original 27 bitcoin deposit back, and he is one of the largest investors.

More refunds have been sent today.  Please do not send attachments to the refund email address.

Here are the exact details of the deposit amounts and dates. I would appreciate if you can refund me my deposits. I have emailed you several times without a response. My emails have the address to send the refund to.



My username on btc-arbs was awesome.

3/25/14---sent in .06 BTC
3/30/14----sent in .07 BTC
4/3/14----sent in .06 BTC
4/7/14----sent in .07 BTC
4/12/14--- sent in 1.0 BTC
4/14/14----sent in .09 BTC.

Total deposit-- 1.35 BTC

Can someone please add my username and Total amount due to the spreadsheet. For some reason I am unable to do so.

awesome ------1.35 BTC
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June 04, 2014, 10:05:38 PM
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I sent my information as well.  Here it is for tracking purposes.

I did not include gains/profits.  I only included the total amount I deposited minus the amount I was able to withdraw after my legacy account was frozen.

BTC-Arbs Username:  MoonCheese
Total Deposits: 5.2446
Total Withdrawals: 0.2695
Total Lost: 4.9751 BTC (deposits - withdrawals)

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June 05, 2014, 01:00:08 AM
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Unless it's already been done, could someone (who has more time on their hands than me Smiley ) search the boards and see if there are any other threads pertaining to btc-arbs members trying to get their btc back, and let them know about our spreadsheet?

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June 05, 2014, 01:03:12 AM
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in the google doc do we use our btc-arbs user name or bitcointalk username?

Bitcointalk username. That's how we can communicate with each other. The spreadsheet is for our purposes, not the BTC-Admin. He should be refunding us based on our emails and PMs with the BTC-arbs username information.
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June 05, 2014, 03:49:17 AM
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What are PM's that are supposed to be sent? Excuse my ignorance.
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June 05, 2014, 04:10:53 AM
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What are PM's that are supposed to be sent? Excuse my ignorance.

PM = private message
If you want to send a PM to BTC-Arbs, go to his profile page (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=337325) and click the "Send this member a personal message." down there.

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