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December 11, 2014, 11:46:41 PM |
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Lord, I pray that you grant me that greatest of your gifts, patience.... BUT DO IT NOW!!!!![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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December 12, 2014, 10:30:30 AM Last edit: December 12, 2014, 12:56:02 PM by uki |
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Paid voting ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) Do we even need another exchange yet? Volgens mij, the LAST thing we need is to dilute what little volume we have across other channels right now. you can cast free votes, too. that is what I did. I don't like buying votes, either. Well we do need a Zeit/BTC trading pair. If we can get that on an exchange with ACTUAL VOLUME (ex which does NOT include Comkort), it'll boost our credibility. Like it or not, having only an LTC/Zeit trading pair is a negative publicity thing for us that limits our potential growth as a community. That needs to change. My point when sending this application was very close to what atronite means. For now we have ZEIT only at Cryptsy (from the exchanges that have non-negligible volume, sorry Lion have to say that loud) and having one more exchange with reasonable volume could definitely help rather than disturb ZEIT (that is why we are trying to get on BTER, right?; unfortunately I am not allowed to vote there yet). Having said that, there is no pressure in getting at C-Cex tomorrow, we have ZEIT in the end!, and definitely not with paid votes. I am against this ridiculous practice introduced by the exchanges that were helpless with people cheating on regular voting. But let it be another test for our community and for how strong we are.
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December 12, 2014, 12:37:43 PM |
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I see no issues with that, uki. Thank you. BTER was our decision for the asian market, but since the Bitbay disaster I'm not sure if we're doing right. and definitely not with paid votes 100% agreed! Cheers, Ray
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December 12, 2014, 02:00:16 PM |
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I see no issues with that, uki. Thank you. BTER was our decision for the asian market, but since the Bitbay disaster I'm not sure if we're doing right. and definitely not with paid votes 100% agreed! Cheers, Ray this? http://pastebin.com/iintnvAjnot sure what happened w/bitbay but this looks nasty @ BTER credit to mangled blue for the link
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December 12, 2014, 05:24:34 PM |
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I see no issues with that, uki. Thank you. BTER was our decision for the asian market, but since the Bitbay disaster I'm not sure if we're doing right. and definitely not with paid votes 100% agreed! Cheers, Ray this? http://pastebin.com/iintnvAjnot sure what happened w/bitbay but this looks nasty @ BTER credit to mangled blue for the link Which is the coin ?
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December 12, 2014, 05:28:38 PM |
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correct me if im wrong but theres really no point in having a btc market until we're over 100 liteoshis for good. otherwise it will just be an empty order book on the bid side.
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December 12, 2014, 05:40:42 PM |
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correct me if im wrong but theres really no point in having a btc market until we're over 100 liteoshis for good. otherwise it will just be an empty order book on the bid side.
i agree - it totally sucks being pinned to the floor @ gregofdoom - idk but prolly plans will prolly change now n e way, maybe figure from the dates given
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December 12, 2014, 06:15:51 PM |
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The BTER Zeit votes are simply for showing our presence on the market. There is no rule to get listed, which is bad enough. Have a look at their voting: (estimated) 50% of the listed coins are dead, scam or having less than 20 pages on BCT.
After the BitBay disaster they should change their image. That could be a chance.
Cheers, Ray
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December 12, 2014, 07:44:44 PM |
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correct me if im wrong but theres really no point in having a btc market until we're over 100 liteoshis for good. otherwise it will just be an empty order book on the bid side.
I see your point here podizzle. But think of it in terms of how crypto users work and it should come as no surprise that if we get listed on a BTC/Zeit market on a strong, well-known exchange and we start having movement of a decent volume on that exchange, then anyone in their right mind would move their sell orders to the BTC/Zeit exchange. That is, of course, unless there are people who placed their Zeit on the sell side and have just forgotten about them. If that's the case, sucks to be them. Also, +1 million billion against paying for votes. I have never agreed with this practice.
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a_cat_named_joe
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December 12, 2014, 09:57:58 PM Last edit: December 12, 2014, 11:00:58 PM by a_cat_named_joe |
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... think of it in terms of how crypto users work and it should come as no surprise that if we get listed on a BTC/Zeit market on a strong, well-known exchange and we start having movement of a decent volume on that exchange, then anyone in their right mind would move their sell orders to the BTC/Zeit exchange. That is, of course, unless there are people who placed their Zeit on the sell side and have just forgotten about them. If that's the case, sucks to be them.
I agree. The decision has been made. We are moving for placement on BTER. We should get behind that decision. The vote for Zeit is up in the thousands. There must be lots of votes coming from BTER users who like the look of Zeit. There is a link to this forum on the voting form. If we get BTER status then that should be it. Build on it. One more thing, BTER give daily interest on coins kept on their exchange. With Fluttercoin they match the full annual POS interest of 5%. If they gave interest on Zeit similar to its annual interest rate of 25% there would be a mass migration to BTER. Anything like that rate of interest would attract BTER users like bees around a honey pot.
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December 12, 2014, 11:36:57 PM Last edit: December 12, 2014, 11:55:28 PM by a_cat_named_joe |
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Do we even need another exchange yet?
YES - WE - DO! We need to be in touch with a larger market with a BTC pairing.
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December 13, 2014, 12:30:07 AM |
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C-Cex is fucking terrible, just terrible. I take one look and just glaze over how bad the layout and general stuff on c-cex is and it is the 3rd exchange I signed up on nearly a year ago and used it ONCE to buy Doge (and now to place some buys on EMC2 since I have to) BTER would be awesome and I will vote this week once I get to dump all my Doges .. for profit or small loss .. as halvening is tomorrow. I have been pestering Poloniex to add it maybe BTC market but more on XMR market as it allows for arbing and low spreads + it looks like there is a whole scale dump of XMR so there should be volume at least. As for LTC .. block halving will happen in 6-8 months (cba to calculate again) so worst case if nothing else happens, it should be interesting to see where LTC goes, tho I fear it would just dump Zeit price since LTC will be pumping, but 6 months is an eternity in cryptoland. That's how long it took to get almost 30mil Zeit from staking alone ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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LionOfNarnia
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December 13, 2014, 12:32:50 AM |
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Do we even need another exchange yet?
YES - WE - DO! We need to be in touch with a larger market with a BTC pairing. To become whale-bait again? Going too far too fast cost us dearly back in April. We need to generate more volume on the exchanges we've already got, by attracting new - AND COMMITTED! - long-terms supporters/investors. Which is why the Knights are so important. Are you going to add your voice to the Knights, 'joe'?
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LionOfNarnia
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December 13, 2014, 12:47:38 AM |
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"I don't always kill & eat things - but when I do it's because I'm a Lion & they were things"
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December 13, 2014, 01:54:24 AM Last edit: December 13, 2014, 02:07:53 AM by atronite |
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Do we even need another exchange yet?
YES - WE - DO! We need to be in touch with a larger market with a BTC pairing. To become whale-bait again? Going too far too fast cost us dearly back in April. We need to generate more volume on the exchanges we've already got, by attracting new - AND COMMITTED! - long-terms supporters/investors. Which is why the Knights are so important. Are you going to add your voice to the Knights, 'joe'? As if we aren't whale-bait already? Simply being LISTED on an exchange makes you eligible as "whale bait". ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) Also, most people trade or buy into other alt coins with BTC, NOT LTC. When people want to go buy Zeit, do we REALLY want to make them go through the trouble of converting to LTC? That's bad user experience and marketing right there. As for BTER being criminals, is there corroborating evidence for this? A tweet does not evidence make. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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December 13, 2014, 02:44:00 AM Last edit: December 13, 2014, 03:05:55 AM by a_cat_named_joe |
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Do we even need another exchange yet?
YES - WE - DO! We need to be in touch with a larger market with a BTC pairing. To become whale-bait again? Going too far too fast cost us dearly back in April. We need to generate more volume on the exchanges we've already got, by attracting new - AND COMMITTED! - long-terms supporters/investors. Which is why the Knights are so important. Are you going to add your voice to the Knights, 'joe'? As if we aren't whale-bait already? Simply being LISTED on an exchange makes you eligible as "whale bait". ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) Also, most people trade or buy into other alt coins with BTC, NOT LTC. When people want to go buy Zeit, do we REALLY want to make them go through the trouble of converting to LTC? That's bad user experience and marketing right there. As for BTER being criminals, is there corroborating evidence for this? A tweet does not evidence make. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) I read the through the BTER criminal thread. Pure tosh. Amateurish FUD. BTER are still trading as normal. As far as I know, nobody has been found guilty of anything. Not even charged or arrested. Atronite - you took the words right out of my mouth. We are whale bait. If there are whales on BTER, they first have to buy Zeit to become Zeit whales. Let them buy all they want. The more whales buying and selling the better. It evens things out. Zeit is concentrated too much in one place. The BTER 'revelations' are bunkum. They must be doing something right to attract so much hostility. Anyway, I thought Lion of Narnia was against us being on Cryptsy. What's he piping up for?
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December 13, 2014, 02:51:10 AM |
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ZEIT is even still alive?!
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December 13, 2014, 03:51:27 AM Last edit: December 13, 2014, 08:12:10 AM by kiklo |
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ZEIT is even still alive?!
Well You are Posting in the Zeit Forum, As you can see it is quite active. Wait let me check my pulse, hmm Yep Still Alive, who knew? ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) For as long as one of the Zeit Community survives so will Zeitcoin, It is Magic like That! ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) FYI: Sad to inform you but the coin in your signature Umbrella-LTC has only a few days left to live, it's market cap is below $2,500 and failing fast. Condolences to you and your coin. (Umbrella was that the name of the evil corp in resident evil.)
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atronite
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December 13, 2014, 05:19:37 AM |
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http://thewaterproject.org/I think this is worth raising money for, but it seems a bit contrived that we would raise money in terms of Zeit, which we would have to sell for LTC then cash, when receiving BTC donations is a better alternative. =/
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December 13, 2014, 05:46:54 AM Last edit: December 13, 2014, 06:37:20 AM by kiklo |
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http://thewaterproject.org/I think this is worth raising money for, but it seems a bit contrived that we would raise money in terms of Zeit, which we would have to sell for LTC then cash, when receiving BTC donations is a better alternative. =/ Agree it is worth raising money for, but would suggest just supporting them now using your paypal or credit card directly. https://thewaterproject.org/give-waterWait until people see the true value of zeit at the exchange so you are not giving your zeitcoins away , when if you wait, your interest alone would be able to buy the Pump and pay for installation. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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