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June 03, 2014, 05:24:23 AM
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is this coin dead?
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Nope - Heavycoin is still very much alive - tell your friends Smiley

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June 03, 2014, 10:57:59 AM
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is this coin dead?
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Nope - Heavycoin is still very much alive - tell your friends Smiley

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I dont think so.  nobody coming

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June 03, 2014, 12:05:08 PM
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Hey guys,

Ok, I'm back, I hope at least one of you missed me Smiley

Let's take a little bit of a state of the union here:


Heavycoin
Am I crazy, or is this one of the best coins on the market right now? Why are we so low on the exchanges?

- We've lost the positive sentiment of the crypto community - we brought this on ourselves

- There was a scare about the dev's missing, and we're hurting from that still - the truth is that Keccak is posting as much now as he did when the devs were thought missing - I talked to Keccak three days ago, he's still here, the IPO wasn't a scam, version 1.3 of the wallet is imminent.

- He won't ever be the face of the coin, I can be, for now, if you guys want me to . What he and Nogi are is one of the best coin dev teams working right now. We need to leverage that rather then ever expect them to be the marketers for this coin.

- I'll take responsibility for this coin until we reach a point where it's "we" and not just me - this is our second most important goal.


The thread
Guys, if I read this thread I would only see that the entire thing is a horror show - just a basket of "the coin is doomed" and negativity.

I have a guy on Facebook who asked a question about solo mining for Heavycoin, I knew the best answer was to send him here to ask questions to you guys directly, but I'm hesitating - my thought was "ah shit, they'll rip this kid apart" - That's probably a really bad sign.

I'm not suggesting that we go all Dogecoin, but could we please think about how you approach a problem - can we talk to each other like we actually like each other and have an interest in common?

It isn't even this thread - I think BitcoinTalk suffers this problem in general.

Bag holders
Anyone who is interested in this coin would probably be considered a bag holder by definition.

I don't think so - we have our bags and we see promise in this coin - we need to address the crypto community and let them know we are still here.

as fengkaitj noted - we know scrypt ASIC's are here and possibly x11 ASIC's might not be too far off - what we are suffering from is negative sentiment only, HVC won't feel the ASICs.

We have great algorithms, great devs, great forum members, and a truly great thread poster (that's me - FYI) what's not to love?

Twitter
I'm operating the @Heavycoinnews twitter account - please follow this account. We are up 60 new followers in the last week and a bit, which is such a good sign for us.

What would really help me on twitter are three things:

- Please follow @HeavycoinNews on twitter
- Please say something nice about Heavycoin so I can re-tweet you - I can't keep posting my own positive thoughts
- Search heavycoin on twitter, when you see someone saying Heavycoin is dead, just let them know that you are still in to it - I'll retweet you and this will help us build positive sentiment.

Heavycoin Website
p1nky - thanks for such a considered response - I'll continue our conversation via PM, but I will agree that nothing you say is factually inaccurate - I simply don't have access to website files, I have asked again tonight, if I don't hear anything I'll screen scrape the current site and put it under a new domain.

I'll figure out with Keccak the best way to handle the website, or otherwise start my own we can control. I don't think there's any resistance from the devs, just a process which isn't working well, we'll figure it out.


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M

 Anybody can feel any hope?

Glad to hear that version 1.3 of the wallet is imminent. If it's launched in
the limit phase, hope it's a mandatory update and the default vote would be
changed to less than ten. We've dumped too much coins to the market in very
short time.
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June 03, 2014, 12:08:26 PM
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is this coin dead?
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Nope - Heavycoin is still very much alive - tell your friends Smiley

Cheers,
M

I dont think so.  nobody coming

when x11 asic will come, gpu miners will move here or on others algo

there is still hope for this coin, a "patience hope"...
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June 03, 2014, 12:38:13 PM
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is this coin dead?
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Nope - Heavycoin is still very much alive - tell your friends Smiley

Cheers,
M

I dont think so.  nobody coming

when x11 asic will come, gpu miners will move here or on others algo

there is still hope for this coin, a "patience hope"...


X11 asics will come if sCrypt asics will turn out to be successful. As it is, X11 already offers a higher hashrate than sCrypt for lower power consumption. Asics for X11 might just not be worth creating. And, above all, as I continuously stated whenever I had the chance, it appears that sCrypt asics might just have killed sCrypt. Most miners, instead of buying the new asics, chose to move to a different algo.
So, bottom line is that for SHA-256, ASICS were a success; for sCrypt, not so much. I'm guessing that the next ASIC that comes out for a new algo (probably X11) will fail horribly.

Hefty is a wonderful thing. The reason this coin is dying is the same for every other coin. You will need a very strong integration in the community and, beside this, you will have to find a way to integrate it in the environment outside the crypto world. This is pretty hard to accomplish, but if you manage to do it, the coin will flourish.

With almost every coin, and probably every algo out there, there is one enormous problem: the distribution. Most coins use PoW. It's biggest flaw is that the more Hashpower you have, the bigger your reward will be. This should not be happening. The amount of coin a node should be able to gain should not depend on that node's hashpower, and it should be limited for the given unit of time. This will ensure a fair distribution and will also make the development of dedicated mining equipment superfluous. Solo mining will be encouraged and more and more people will come to claim their fair share, thus helping secure the network. There will be no pools, no huge farms and no useless dedicated hardware. People will mine using their phones, laptops, PCs, and will do this while enjoying other activities on their devices. There will be no need for specialized software, because mining with the wallet will be sufficient. This will be the future, and that future is not far away.

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June 03, 2014, 01:14:20 PM
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Hey guys,

Keep on rocking in the free world, etc...

@tz - interesting ideas man - got to say I'm stuck on the idea of sCrypt ACIS's failing (is "sCrypt" capitalisation correct? dammit I've been doing it wrong the whole time).

What does sCrypt ASIC's failing look like for a coin like, say, Litecoin? It seems like there's a lot of money tied up in that coin and even if the GPU miners left someone would fill that mining void with either GPU's or ASIC's. Then the ASIC's would mine more coin and eventually take over.

To be perfectly honest I hadn't considered the idea before. Interesting - is there an angle I'm missing on this?

I do however share your hope that we will eventually passively mine on all our devices rather then the current arms war - to my mind, the only real valid criticism for Bitcoin is that it wastes so much power.



If you have a minute - check out CoinExchange's latest post on the logo/art forum: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=513878.msg7084495#msg7084495

A very nice tidy up job - please feel free to share any thoughts.



Final news of the day - Ok, I've talked to the devs about the website, they are giving me access now and then I have to learn a few new tools to make updates (I'm a simpleton, so bare with me...).

While we're looking at the site - are there any other details we should be looking at? Is all of the information clear or should we also be thinking about adding/editing other points to make the whole page as clear as possible.

Let me know if you guys see any other info on the page/site we should comb over to make sure everything is as clear as we can make it.


If you're in the mood for an interesting documentary, here's my recommendation for the day: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CS_HUWs9c8c

Cheers,
M
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Quick follow up - Steve - thanks so much for sharing the link man - anything that gives me something to post around the social circles is a massive help - tip of the hat to you, sir
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June 03, 2014, 01:53:58 PM
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is this coin dead?
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Nope - Heavycoin is still very much alive - tell your friends Smiley

Cheers,
M

I dont think so.  nobody coming

when x11 asic will come, gpu miners will move here or on others algo

there is still hope for this coin, a "patience hope"...


X11 asics will come if sCrypt asics will turn out to be successful. As it is, X11 already offers a higher hashrate than sCrypt for lower power consumption. Asics for X11 might just not be worth creating. And, above all, as I continuously stated whenever I had the chance, it appears that sCrypt asics might just have killed sCrypt. Most miners, instead of buying the new asics, chose to move to a different algo.
So, bottom line is that for SHA-256, ASICS were a success; for sCrypt, not so much. I'm guessing that the next ASIC that comes out for a new algo (probably X11) will fail horribly.

Hefty is a wonderful thing. The reason this coin is dying is the same for every other coin. You will need a very strong integration in the community and, beside this, you will have to find a way to integrate it in the environment outside the crypto world. This is pretty hard to accomplish, but if you manage to do it, the coin will flourish.

With almost every coin, and probably every algo out there, there is one enormous problem: the distribution. Most coins use PoW. It's biggest flaw is that the more Hashpower you have, the bigger your reward will be. This should not be happening. The amount of coin a node should be able to gain should not depend on that node's hashpower, and it should be limited for the given unit of time. This will ensure a fair distribution and will also make the development of dedicated mining equipment superfluous. Solo mining will be encouraged and more and more people will come to claim their fair share, thus helping secure the network. There will be no pools, no huge farms and no useless dedicated hardware. People will mine using their phones, laptops, PCs, and will do this while enjoying other activities on their devices. There will be no need for specialized software, because mining with the wallet will be sufficient. This will be the future, and that future is not far away.



Scrypt asics failed? litecoin failed? dogecoin failed? Pow failed?
Could you stay a little calm for one or two months and make your judgement?
And if you believe hvc is dead, pls sell all your hvc coins to the market. I'm waiting there to buy. Thanks
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June 03, 2014, 02:20:57 PM
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Dunno why people keep coming in here claiming the coin is dead. One might think they have an interest in buying low...

Considering the insane inflation we have been having for months this coin is very much alive, more than most would have imagined, and considering that this inflation will come to a stop soon you will be in for a big surprise how "dead" this coin is shortly  Kiss
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June 03, 2014, 02:30:12 PM
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Dunno why people keep coming in here claiming the coin is dead. One might think they have an interest in buying low...

Considering the insane inflation we have been having for months this coin is very much alive, more than most would have imagined, and considering that this inflation will come to a stop soon you will be in for a big surprise how "dead" this coin is shortly  Kiss

It's a good coin indeed. Smiley

If it was easy, everybody would be doing it
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June 03, 2014, 02:35:39 PM
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How about the pool?
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June 03, 2014, 02:42:20 PM
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Scrypt asics failed? litecoin failed? dogecoin failed? Pow failed?
Could you stay a little calm for one or two months and make your judgement?
And if you believe hvc is dead, pls sell all your hvc coins to the market. I'm waiting there to buy. Thanks

Hey fengkaitj,

While I appreciate your passion, could we ratchet this back a few steps?

I think you and I are in the same camp, but if we just jump on tz for having an opinion we pretty much lose the opportunity for having an interesting conversation.

HVC isn't going anywhere until the market says it's lost all interest - we're still in the game, nothing you or I or tz has to say will change that. In the mean time maybe we should be open to any new and potentially opposing ideas.

Let's just reel it back a little bit.

Cheers,
M
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June 03, 2014, 02:44:09 PM
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How about the pool?

Are you asking which pool to mine at?

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June 03, 2014, 03:53:02 PM
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At these prices, HVC is a steal.  As soon as the alt mining crowd realizes this could be the next GPU coin, it will defy gravity and likely see a huge influx of buyers.  To me, it's a no brainer to scoop anything you can up  under the 2000sat level.
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June 03, 2014, 03:57:32 PM
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is this coin dead?
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Nope - Heavycoin is still very much alive - tell your friends Smiley

Cheers,
M

I dont think so.  nobody coming

when x11 asic will come, gpu miners will move here or on others algo

there is still hope for this coin, a "patience hope"...


With almost every coin, and probably every algo out there, there is one enormous problem: the distribution. Most coins use PoW. It's biggest flaw is that the more Hashpower you have, the bigger your reward will be. This should not be happening. The amount of coin a node should be able to gain should not depend on that node's hashpower, and it should be limited for the given unit of time. This will ensure a fair distribution and will also make the development of dedicated mining equipment superfluous. Solo mining will be encouraged and more and more people will come to claim their fair share, thus helping secure the network. There will be no pools, no huge farms and no useless dedicated hardware. People will mine using their phones, laptops, PCs, and will do this while enjoying other activities on their devices. There will be no need for specialized software, because mining with the wallet will be sufficient. This will be the future, and that future is not far away.


i would love to see a thing like this for future coins, big farms are a bad thing really

limiting the hashpower would be the best blessing for the distribution
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June 03, 2014, 04:15:52 PM
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Heh, I wish I'd see an announcement like this here...

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June 03, 2014, 07:23:15 PM
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i do not consider myself a bag holder i bought ten bitcoins worth of heavycoin at the ipo and im looking to buy 700000 more to bring me up to nearly a million coins, have not sold no coins could have doubled my bitcoin first week of trading on mintpal but early days still, my fellow heavy coiners be patient every body acting scared there was only one other person who dropped ten bitcoins at the ipo and he was acting scared before ipo was even over lol, scared money dont make no money
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June 03, 2014, 07:27:46 PM
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i do not consider myself a bag holder i bought ten bitcoins worth of heavycoin at the ipo and im looking to buy 700000 more to bring me up to nearly a million coins, have not sold no coins could have doubled my bitcoin first week of trading on mintpal but early days still, my fellow heavy coiners be patient every body acting scared there was only one other person who dropped ten bitcoins at the ipo and he was acting scared before ipo was even over lol, scared money dont make no money

In it for the long haul Smiley

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June 03, 2014, 07:57:42 PM
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of course in this long term i believe in this coin, were in the first phase still people need to relax and have fun smile and enjoy this crypto currency journey, pioneers we all are.
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June 04, 2014, 03:35:09 AM
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I have a issue with windows wallet going back and forth from 11 weeks to zero.
11 connections.The wallet has been mining for over 10 hours with a couple of blocks.
Configure files is correct.Catching up processed 2935 of 62,929 established blocks.
Still out of sync.

Thank you for any suggestions on how to fix this issue.
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