[ANN] [HVC] Heavycoin - Ultra-secure, Decentralized Block Reward Voting, Fast

[cayars]

First I'd personally like to thank reorder for changing the default vote used for new setups on hvc.1gh.com to 1.

reoder is also the person who gave us GPU mining on AMD processors! He has been really supportive of our community to say the least and very professional.  He and team also run a first class pool!
Many in the community are very great full for all you have done.

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heavycoinpool.com is dead and has the following posted: "Dear friends, the pool is officially dead. Please cash out by 4/15/2014 and THANK YOU ALL for sticking with us to the end!" This pool had promise but Cryptomind dropped out of site in the forums and IRC and the pool went down hill.

hvc.nonce-pool.com is still alive and kicking but with only about 600MH.  But they are still finding blocks here and there.
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We have also asked ZHPool to make a similar change to voting in their scripts/batch files as 1GH but this hasn't happened (unlike 1GH who was very responsive). Not even a comment from ZHPool. What's more since ZHPool actually has our email address and whatnot it would have been even easier for them to help us get the vote count lower by doing a one time email on our behalf.

I'm throwing this out to the community as a question.  Would any of you be interesting in doing a boycott on ZHPool until such time as they lower the vote count?
hvc.nonce-pool.com from my split testing was previously the best paying of all 4 up to the time they lost hash rate. Fast in the US and a very responsive website for MPOS. They have 0% pool fee but only 0.01 (not 0.1) HVC transfer fee.  If enough people would boycott ZHPool until they make a change we could move some substantial traffic to Nonce which would send a message that they need to listen to the community!

Nonce has 512 as the default vote count but I'm sure if we moved traffic there we could get them to lower the suggest vote value to 1.  At least 512 is better then default of 1024 which is what ZHPool still has set.

I would just suggest switching to 1GH but then we are putting all our hash in one pool which isn't healthy for the network overall.  I hope you understand this reorder! (we all owe you gratitude, but for the sake of the HVC network, need to keep the hash spread around a bit). Although I'd be the first to say reorder has always been very profession and one of the biggest supports of the HVC network.  But from a valuation standpoint it's better to have the hash spread around.

From my previous testing I believe if we could get around 6GH moved there it would be worth it and no one would feel like we took a hit by moving to a low hash network.

So I wanted to throw this idea out to the community to see if there is any interest in fighting back a bit for a lower vote count.  After all, if the community works as a team we have a "bigger voice" that will get heard.  I bet just the "threat" of moving will get them to take action and if not then when they see GH dropping from their pool, they will drop by the forum and figure out why and make the change.

What do you guys think?

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[cayars]

talk about scam :|
its pumped by same chinese whale(s) that robbed people blind using pump and dump fraud on many other alts

I would not call it a scam as everyone know exactly how it works and like the idea.  It's actually working well for them as it keeps BC in demand for buying which is good for that coin.

However if other coins try and follow that philosophy then it will not works as well for all involved as there will to to much dumping of the mined alt coins.

[cayars]

DEVS,

Since it seems I like to write messages in sets of three, this one is for you.

I'm going to ask for a minute core change that should be totally doable and will not change anything except for possible turmoil later.

What I'd suggest is changing the vote of sustain and last set of blocks in limit phase to also be 1024 instead of just upto 8.

1024/8=128

There will be many people who will not change their vote properly at the proper time.  This may or may not cause problems with blocks or voting. However, without changing any fundamental structure or intention of the coin you could take the vote count used up to 1024 and divide it by 128.  Thus a vote of 1024/128=8 which is the upper range you intended.  Your going to be dealing with decimals any way you cut it so this will just make the transition easier for those running GPU miners which is most people.

Is this something you would at least consider to make the transition easier?

Also, could you please address the wallet issue with OpenSSL and let us know what version of the lib you used and if a new update is in the works if needed?  It doesn't come across well to not comment on this especially when bitcoin forum has had a "news alert" at the top of the forum for a while now concerning this.

[gpools]

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[Wenzel745]

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Haha Kekkak is gonna show up like "Jesus shit you guys! Everytime I leave you guys start talking crazy shit!"

[jakiman]

Also, could you please address the wallet issue with OpenSSL and let us know what version of the lib you used and if a new update is in the works if needed?  It doesn't come across well to not comment on this especially when bitcoin forum has had a "news alert" at the top of the forum for a while now concerning this.

From what he said so far, it doesn't sound that vulnerable. But he will create a new build soon. See below.

The issue mostly applies to bitcoin-0.9.0, especially if you've used the payment protocol.

With Heavycoin you are vulnerable only if you set the rpcssl command-line option.  If it is not set, then no immediate action is required.  Otherwise, if you set rpcssl and if an attacker could have possibly communicated with the RPC port, then you should consider your wallet to be compromised.

Regardless, we will announce new builds soon.

[BigWait]

It's not that I don't think progressive liberals shouldn't be able to mine with their ipad air mini silver or iphone 9t in shit brown or whatever is fashionable and overpriced at the moment. Its just that i think that you are at the extreme bottom of everyone elses priority list.   


waltsmith

[mafostedu]

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I have also been checking his profile for the past couple of days & also having the same expression like you 

@ cayars

You are doing a real good job mate, I have been reading this thread almost every day (sometimes I may even miss to read newspaper but not this thread)
We are a group of 10 low to middle level miners (100 to 400 Mh power each) & we have been mining since 17th Mar, with all our rigs having set 128 as the vote since then.
Now starting from last week, we all have set the vote to 1 & luckily for past 3-4 days each of our rigs finds atleast 1 block every 24 hours. I hope other people also read this thread constantly & change their vote to 1 or atleast lower than 512. Since Devs seem busy with something HVC community must take necessary action for wellness of this coin. 

[TheRealSteve]

Pool hash rates and miners

pool	rate (Mh/s)*	delta***	% of network	miners**	rate/miner	fee (%)	payout
http://hvc.1gh.com/	39,897.31	5,022.28	59.27			1	RBPPS
http://heavycoin.zhpool.com/	26,142.80	5,437.50	38.83	449.1	58.21	1	PPLNS
http://heavycoin.miningpoolhub.com/	7,970.98	163.26	11.84	48.2	165.37	1	PROP
http://hvc.nonce-pool.com/	545.21	-88.75	0.81	33.3	16.37	1	PPLNS
https://heavycoinpool.com/	0.24	0.01	0	2	0.12		(shut  down)
http://heavy.stablehash.com/	0.00	-0.14	0	0	0	1	PROP
https://hvc.crunchharder.net/	0.00	0.00	0	0	0	2	PPLNS
total	74,556.54	10,534.16
network rate	67,320	7,870

* due to rate variability displayed through pool statistics pages, rates are based on average of 10 samples over the past hour
** miner count for 1gh unavailable
*** Delta since last update

Pool luck

last 24h luck 1gh nonce hvcpool zhpool poolhub hash avg 46,930.92 654.59 0.24 35,741.30 8,484.36 blocks 434 1 0 280 49 hash % 51.12 0.71 0.00 38.93 9.24 blocks % 56.82 0.13 0.00 36.66 6.39 luck % 111.20 18.40 0.00 94.20 69.10

last 7d luck 1gh nonce hvcpool zhpool poolhub hash avg 46,930.92 654.59 0.24 35,741.30 8,484.36 blocks 2,621 34 0 1,928 347 hash % 51.12 0.71 0.00 38.93 9.24 blocks % 53.16 0.69 0.00 39.11 7.04 luck % 104.01 96.73 0.00 100.46 76.17

Pool voting

Mining (indicative, not authoritative!)

payoff per Mhash/s / day ideal solo 1gh nonce hvcpool zhpool poolhub HVC 4.29679 4.30 4.00 0.00 4.15 3.15 mBTC 0.11180 0.11 0.10 0.00 0.11 0.08 USD 0.05060 0.05 0.05 0.00 0.05 0.04

pool take / day 1gh nonce hvcpool zhpool poolhub HVC 2,036.89 26.42 0.00 1,498.33 269.67 BTC 0.05 0.00 0.00 0.04 0.01 USD 23.99 0.31 0.00 17.65 3.18

Based on last 7 days performance and... block reward: HVC544 | mBTC/HVC: 0.02602 | USD/BTC: $452.6
Block progression

overall 1gh hvcpool noncepool zhpool poolhub other total Blocks 2621 0 34 1928 347 157 5999 Percent 43.7 0 0.6 32.1 5.8 2.6 84.8 hash_rate 46931 0 655 35741 8484 1 91812 Percent 51.1 0 0.7 38.9 9.2 0 99.9

1gh Top stats

___Top_100___ ___Top_10___ Total: 32,379.70 Mhash/s Total: 10,230.60 Mhash/s % of pool: 81.2% % of pool: 25.6% % of network: 43.4% % of network: 13.7% Mean rate: 323.80 Mhash/s Mean rate: 1,023.06 Mhash/s Median rate: 209.93 Mhash/s Median rate: 862.05 Mhash/s Mode(10) rate: 100 Mhash/s Mode(100) rate: 700 Mhash/s

Note: I added a 'pool voting' chart.  This is a work-in-progress and subject to change.
Question: The 'Other' timeline for block progression is showing quite a few blocks - am I missing a pool?  Let me know!

[Djinou94]

So there is not mulitpool?

[cayars]

Haha Kekkak is gonna show up like "Jesus shit you guys! Everytime I leave you guys start talking crazy shit!"

Then maybe somebody who just made $106K off IPO a little over a month ago, shouldn't skip town for days at a time. They are probably working on stuff for us, BUT it would be nice to at least have them drop in daily, answer any questions from the previous day and give us an update of any marketing things being worked on.  For a coin based on community aspects there is not a lot of communications from the devs.

Also, could you please address the wallet issue with OpenSSL and let us know what version of the lib you used and if a new update is in the works if needed?  It doesn't come across well to not comment on this especially when bitcoin forum has had a "news alert" at the top of the forum for a while now concerning this.

From what he said so far, it doesn't sound that vulnerable. But he will create a new build soon. See below.

The issue mostly applies to bitcoin-0.9.0, especially if you've used the payment protocol.

With Heavycoin you are vulnerable only if you set the rpcssl command-line option.  If it is not set, then no immediate action is required.  Otherwise, if you set rpcssl and if an attacker could have possibly communicated with the RPC port, then you should consider your wallet to be compromised.

Regardless, we will announce new builds soon.

Would love to see a response posted by devs here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=563790.0
Goes to credibility of devs and coin.

@ cayars

You are doing a real good job mate, I have been reading this thread almost every day (sometimes I may even miss to read newspaper but not this thread)
We are a group of 10 low to middle level miners (100 to 400 Mh power each) & we have been mining since 17th Mar, with all our rigs having set 128 as the vote since then.
Now starting from last week, we all have set the vote to 1 & luckily for past 3-4 days each of our rigs finds atleast 1 block every 24 hours. I hope other people also read this thread constantly & change their vote to 1 or atleast lower than 512. Since Devs seem busy with something HVC community must take necessary action for wellness of this coin.  

Thanks for the kind words and for setting your vote count low.  Every little bit helps.

On a related note. Sill a huge amount of 1024 votes coming from ZHPool: http://heavycoin.zhpool.com/index.php?page=statistics&action=blocks
Average vote of 573 for all blocks currently showing.

[cayars]

So there is not mulitpool?

No multipool at present as it's probably better to mine this coin directly.

But there are regular pools of course.

[cryptomines]

First I'd personally like to thank reorder for changing the default vote used for new setups on hvc.1gh.com to 1.

reoder is also the person who gave us GPU mining on AMD processors! He has been really supportive of our community to say the least and very professional.  He and team also run a first class pool!
Many in the community are very great full for all you have done.

--------------------------------

heavycoinpool.com is dead and has the following posted: "Dear friends, the pool is officially dead. Please cash out by 4/15/2014 and THANK YOU ALL for sticking with us to the end!" This pool had promise but Cryptomind dropped out of site in the forums and IRC and the pool went down hill.

hvc.nonce-pool.com is still alive and kicking but with only about 600MH.  But they are still finding blocks here and there.
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We have also asked ZHPool to make a similar change to voting in their scripts/batch files as 1GH but this hasn't happened (unlike 1GH who was very responsive). Not even a comment from ZHPool. What's more since ZHPool actually has our email address and whatnot it would have been even easier for them to help us get the vote count lower by doing a one time email on our behalf.

I'm throwing this out to the community as a question.  Would any of you be interesting in doing a boycott on ZHPool until such time as they lower the vote count?
hvc.nonce-pool.com from my split testing was previously the best paying of all 4 up to the time they lost hash rate. Fast in the US and a very responsive website for MPOS. They have 1% pool fee but only 0.01 (not 0.1) HVC transfer fee.  If enough people would boycott ZHPool until they make a change we could move some substantial traffic to Nonce which would send a message that they need to listen to the community!

Nonce has 512 as the default vote count but I'm sure if we moved traffic there we could get them to lower the suggest vote value to 1.   At least 512 is better then default of 1024 which is what ZHPool still has set.

I would just suggest switching to 1GH but then we are putting all our hash in one pool which isn't healthy for the network overall.  I hope you understand this reorder! (we all owe you gratitude, but for the sake of the HVC network, need to keep the hash spread around a bit). Although I'd be the first to say reorder has always been very profession and one of the biggest supports of the HVC network.  But from a valuation standpoint it's better to have the hash spread around.

From my previous testing I believe if we could get around 6GH moved there it would be worth it and no one would feel like we took a hit by moving to a low hash network.

So I wanted to throw this idea out to the community to see if there is any interest in fighting back a bit for a lower vote count.  After all, if the community works as a team we have a "bigger voice" that will get heard.   I bet just the "threat" of moving will get them to take action and if not then when they see GH dropping from their pool, they will drop by the forum and figure out why and make the change.

What do you guys think?

This is a great idea! Much respect to reorder for the default vote of 1! The low vote camp should work as hard as we can to negate the greedy camp's 1024 votes. Zhpool has done the community a great disservice with their 1024 default vote. I'd really like to hear their logic behind that. Everyone stands to benefit far more from an extended mint phase.

We are a group of 10 low to middle level miners (100 to 400 Mh power each) & we have been mining since 17th Mar, with all our rigs having set 128 as the vote since then.
Now starting from last week, we all have set the vote to 1 & luckily for past 3-4 days each of our rigs finds atleast 1 block every 24 hours. I hope other people also read this thread constantly & change their vote to 1 or atleast lower than 512. Since Devs seem busy with something HVC community must take necessary action for wellness of this coin. 

This is great, and exactly what we need to have happen. Lets put maximum downward pressure on the vote and stay vocal about the community's displeasure with high default votes.

Keep up the great work all, we have a great community here!

[incin]

From a pool's perspective higher block reward means greater fees collected. Not saying that's why they have the vote @ 1024 but seems logical.

[Finansist]

talk about scam :|
its pumped by same chinese whale(s) that robbed people blind using pump and dump fraud on many other alts

I would not call it a scam as everyone know exactly how it works and like the idea.  It's actually working well for them as it keeps BC in demand for buying which is good for that coin.

However if other coins try and follow that philosophy then it will not works as well for all involved as there will to to much dumping of the mined alt coins.

Hope this isn't a hoax
We have been lied enough

[gpools]

blackcoin safe . i like Blackcoin

[cryptomines]

From a pool's perspective higher block reward means greater fees collected. Not saying that's why they have the vote @ 1024 but seems logical.

More coins might seem logical but not so with HVC..... vote high now, lots of coins, real fast, worth pennies $, ridiculous inflation, everyone loses.

Or.... vote low, less coins, longer mint, more time to gain value $$$, lower inflation, lower electric bills, more profit $$$, everyone wins! 

[yhgfhy8]

Set it at 1 too and still nothing. I hope somebody forks it and releases a fair coin.

We have set it to 1 for valuation purposes...  I believe you should focus on difficulty in regard to mining.

[gpools]

Set it at 1 too and still nothing. I hope somebody forks it and releases a fair coin.

We have set it to 1 for valuation purposes...  I believe you should focus on difficulty in regard to mining.

no more support. Dev not here.

[yang5034]

very nice  this sunmy i will mine hvc