[ANN] [HVC] Heavycoin - Ultra-secure, Decentralized Block Reward Voting, Fast

[incin]

Is there a free HVC api out there? Like blockchain.info has for BTC..

Heavychain.info has an api but looks like it's not free and it's restricted.

http://heavychain.info/api

[zedicus]

^^ thanks for the link! Ill check em out..

[zedicus]

I just tried to send some HVC and i got "transaction is too large" error! ? why would there be a limit to send?

[TheRealSteve]

Any ideas how much HVC I should be getting from a 200MH/s rig? I was thinking around 1850 or so a day?

Code:

block_reward / (difficulty * 2^32 / hashs_per_sec / 3600 / 24)

So....

Code:

582 / (2,223.36086671 * 4294967296 / 200,000,000 / 3,600 / 24) =  1,053.166 HVC/Day

Note that the difficulty jumps up and down quite a bit:
http://heavycoin.github.io/difficulty-graph.html

tstamp	block	difficulty	calculated reward (HVC)
Apr11 06:03	24357	2751.02	851.16
Apr11 11:18	24510	1894.96	1235.68

So I wouldn't really trust a spot calculation - better to at least use an average or check out the trend from that graph.
( My stats post also contains some numbers for the past 24 hours that give you the reward you would have gotten (more or less) if you had mined for the past 24 hours with 1Mhash/s power, along with pools' stats so that their luck, fee, etc. is taken into account.  Note that Mhash/s here is mining HVC, not just scrypt hash rate. )

[drukoz]

Fell so far, BTC also fell, mining without profit

[AceCobra1]

Any ideas how much HVC I should be getting from a 200MH/s rig? I was thinking around 1850 or so a day?

Code:

block_reward / (difficulty * 2^32 / hashs_per_sec / 3600 / 24)

So....

Code:

582 / (2,223.36086671 * 4294967296 / 200,000,000 / 3,600 / 24) =  1,053.166 HVC/Day

Thanks

[griffinriz]

Fell so far, BTC also fell, mining without profit

Mining with Loss  Profit is far far away

[drukoz]

Fell so far, BTC also fell, mining without profit

Mining with Loss  Profit is far far away

The whole network still has the count hashrate over 80g
 

Difficulty more than 2500

[griffinriz]

Fell so far, BTC also fell, mining without profit

Mining with Loss  Profit is far far away

The whole network still has the count hashrate over 80g
 

Difficulty more than 2500

Dont think people will turn off their machines now because they are mining in loss , some people think about future

[drukoz]

Fell so far, BTC also fell, mining without profit

Mining with Loss  Profit is far far away

The whole network still has the count hashrate over 80g
 

Difficulty more than 2500

Dont think people will turn off their machines now because they are mining in loss , some people think about future

but you can buy from the market,   
1btc=more than 5w, why mine!
 

[griffinriz]

Fell so far, BTC also fell, mining without profit

Mining with Loss  Profit is far far away

The whole network still has the count hashrate over 80g
 

Difficulty more than 2500

Dont think people will turn off their machines now because they are mining in loss , some people think about future

but you can buy from the market,   
1btc=more than 5w, why mine!
 

Because they already got rigs, they cant sell now cheaply what they got and buy coins,best thing they can do is keep mining and hope one day they can recover their losses.

[drukoz]

Fell so far, BTC also fell, mining without profit

Mining with Loss  Profit is far far away

The whole network still has the count hashrate over 80g
 

Difficulty more than 2500

Dont think people will turn off their machines now because they are mining in loss , some people think about future

but you can buy from the market,   
1btc=more than 5w, why mine!
 

Because they already got rigs, they cant sell now cheaply what they got and buy coins,best thing they can do is keep mining and hope one day they can recover their losses.

Refuse to realize one's error
so..

[griffinriz]

Fell so far, BTC also fell, mining without profit

Mining with Loss  Profit is far far away

The whole network still has the count hashrate over 80g
 

Difficulty more than 2500

Dont think people will turn off their machines now because they are mining in loss , some people think about future

but you can buy from the market,   
1btc=more than 5w, why mine!
 

Because they already got rigs, they cant sell now cheaply what they got and buy coins,best thing they can do is keep mining and hope one day they can recover their losses.

Refuse to realize one's error
so..

actually they are supporting the Network too,if no one Mine then the network will collapse,but true "Hard" times 

[reorder]

Yeah, it would have been much better if it was set to 128 or so as default instead of 512. Still better than not changing. 

Not sure why that would have been 'better'.  The premise of the coin was, after all, that people could 'democratically' vote for the reward and some derived numbers from the get-go.  If you have to* pick a number between 0 and 1023, 512 is about as sane as it gets ( an argument could be made for 511 ).

I think the power of pools + apathy of miners was simply not anticipated.  The former causing pools to effectively 'dictate' the defaults, and the latter causing those defaults to not be changed.  Pools could have been more proactive in teaching people about it (by not inserting a default numeric value at all, instead using a textual placeholder - same as they do for the username / password placeholders, and explaining to users what the value does) but then they'd be putting up a barrier for the apathetic miners who just want to get up and running with mining fast.. and if Pool A makes them read a bunch of stuff and think about the vote, while Pool B does not.. all things being equal, Pool B gets the miners.

Perhaps truly 'better' would have been for vote-less results to be accepted - essentially have the miner abstaining from voting, and going along with whatever 'the network' ends up voting.  Then the minority who do care could have had more control, and those who didn't care but suddenly wondered why the reward was changing the way it did would educate themselves and join in on the voting.  Of course this wouldn't prevent pools from setting default values anyway, but at least it would put the onus on the pool to explain why they are voting the exact value they are, instead of the current 'well, we have to put something there, so we set it mid-way'.

* Oddly enough, the website does mention "to disable voting then see How to mine", but the mining page ( http://heavycoin.github.io/mining.html ) doesn't mentioning anything about voting at all.

Technically speaking, the miner is required to set the vote (it is a part of hashed block header), so there is no way a pool could override that.

On a side note, cryptos are already fueled by a fusion of trustlessness, greed and ignorance, adding democracy to that is pretty much counter-productive IMO.

[drukoz]

Fell so far, BTC also fell, mining without profit

Mining with Loss  Profit is far far away

The whole network still has the count hashrate over 80g
 

Difficulty more than 2500

Dont think people will turn off their machines now because they are mining in loss , some people think about future

but you can buy from the market,   
1btc=more than 5w, why mine!
 

Because they already got rigs, they cant sell now cheaply what they got and buy coins,best thing they can do is keep mining and hope one day they can recover their losses.

Refuse to realize one's error
so..

actually they are supporting the Network too,if no one Mine then the network will collapse,but true "Hard" times 

I know, I have shut down my machine！！

[TheRealSteve]

Technically speaking, the miner is required to set the vote (it is a part of hashed block header), so there is no way a pool could override that.

Yeah, I didn't mean to imply that pools override miners' votes, just that they do set a default value in the batch files / scripts they provide, hence the 'dictate' in single quotes
Though hypothetically speaking, I'd imagine it would be possible to reject submissions that disagree with a pool's 'allowed range' of votes.  Of course that also means less rewards for the pool to begin with, and miners would quickly realize and change to a different pool so that's even worse for the pool.

[liquiddrool]

Fell so far, BTC also fell, mining without profit

Mining with Loss  Profit is far far away

The whole network still has the count hashrate over 80g
 

Difficulty more than 2500

Dont think people will turn off their machines now because they are mining in loss , some people think about future

but you can buy from the market,   
1btc=more than 5w, why mine!
 

Because they already got rigs, they cant sell now cheaply what they got and buy coins,best thing they can do is keep mining and hope one day they can recover their losses.

If I choose to give up
Is that I lost all don't come back
Or does it mean that I have to reduce losses to a minimum?

[drukoz]

Fell so far, BTC also fell, mining without profit

Mining with Loss  Profit is far far away

The whole network still has the count hashrate over 80g
 

Difficulty more than 2500

Dont think people will turn off their machines now because they are mining in loss , some people think about future

but you can buy from the market,   
1btc=more than 5w, why mine!
 

Because they already got rigs, they cant sell now cheaply what they got and buy coins,best thing they can do is keep mining and hope one day they can recover their losses.

If I choose to give up
Is that I lost all don't come back
Or does it mean that I have to reduce losses to a minimum?

If you keep thinking of winning back what you have lost, you will lose more
Not overdo sth.guys

[cayars]

0.00001957 on MintPal

[kuperis]

not very nice view with the price of HVC, but anyway mostly coin following bitcoin, last night i bought more... paid 350$ for 1BTC and got 41k HVC...but that dosnt help, sell orders are small, looks like nobody wants to sell, just few miners/whales who sells with insta market orders..
anyway, still bullish in long run, if crypto market recovers after this mess..

and...

now keccak512 (devs) really could use little of that IPO fund, to buyback some HVC to support coin... atleast just help to keep the wall in ~3k