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April 11, 2014, 08:51:32 AM
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Please dump your HVC , i want more cheap coin
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April 11, 2014, 08:59:13 AM
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Please dump your HVC , i want more cheap coin

You over 10% of the supply yet?  Grin

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April 11, 2014, 09:00:12 AM
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Is there a free HVC api out there? Like blockchain.info has for BTC..

 
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April 11, 2014, 09:10:51 AM
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Is there a free HVC api out there? Like blockchain.info has for BTC..

Heavychain.info has an api but looks like it's not free and it's restricted.

http://heavychain.info/api

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April 11, 2014, 09:18:56 AM
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^^ thanks for the link! Ill check em out..

 
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April 11, 2014, 09:26:36 AM
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I just tried to send some HVC and i got "transaction is too large" error! ? why would there be a limit to send?

 
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April 11, 2014, 09:32:46 AM
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Any ideas how much HVC I should be getting from a 200MH/s rig? I was thinking around 1850 or so a day?

Code:
block_reward / (difficulty * 2^32 / hashs_per_sec / 3600 / 24)
So....
Code:
582 / (2,223.36086671 * 4294967296 / 200,000,000 / 3,600 / 24) =  1,053.166 HVC/Day
Note that the difficulty jumps up and down quite a bit:
http://heavycoin.github.io/difficulty-graph.html
tstampblockdifficultycalculated reward (HVC)
Apr11 06:03243572751.02851.16
Apr11 11:18245101894.961235.68
So I wouldn't really trust a spot calculation - better to at least use an average or check out the trend from that graph.
( My stats post also contains some numbers for the past 24 hours that give you the reward you would have gotten (more or less) if you had mined for the past 24 hours with 1Mhash/s power, along with pools' stats so that their luck, fee, etc. is taken into account.  Note that Mhash/s here is mining HVC, not just scrypt hash rate. )

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April 11, 2014, 09:34:03 AM
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Fell so far, BTC also fell, mining without profit Angry Angry Angry

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April 11, 2014, 09:58:19 AM
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Any ideas how much HVC I should be getting from a 200MH/s rig? I was thinking around 1850 or so a day?

Code:
block_reward / (difficulty * 2^32 / hashs_per_sec / 3600 / 24)

So....

Code:
582 / (2,223.36086671 * 4294967296 / 200,000,000 / 3,600 / 24) =  1,053.166 HVC/Day


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April 11, 2014, 10:01:11 AM
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Fell so far, BTC also fell, mining without profit Angry Angry Angry

Mining with Loss  Grin Profit is far far away
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April 11, 2014, 10:08:35 AM
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Fell so far, BTC also fell, mining without profit Angry Angry Angry

Mining with Loss  Grin Profit is far far away

The whole network still has the count hashrate over 80g
 Angry Angry

Difficulty more than 2500

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April 11, 2014, 10:21:18 AM
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Fell so far, BTC also fell, mining without profit Angry Angry Angry

Mining with Loss  Grin Profit is far far away

The whole network still has the count hashrate over 80g
 Angry Angry

Difficulty more than 2500

Dont think people will turn off their machines now because they are mining in loss , some people think about future
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April 11, 2014, 10:23:00 AM
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Fell so far, BTC also fell, mining without profit Angry Angry Angry

Mining with Loss  Grin Profit is far far away

The whole network still has the count hashrate over 80g
 Angry Angry

Difficulty more than 2500

Dont think people will turn off their machines now because they are mining in loss , some people think about future

but you can buy from the market,   
1btc=more than 5w, why mine!
 Huh Huh Huh

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April 11, 2014, 10:28:25 AM
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Fell so far, BTC also fell, mining without profit Angry Angry Angry

Mining with Loss  Grin Profit is far far away

The whole network still has the count hashrate over 80g
 Angry Angry

Difficulty more than 2500

Dont think people will turn off their machines now because they are mining in loss , some people think about future

but you can buy from the market,   
1btc=more than 5w, why mine!
 Huh Huh Huh

Because they already got rigs, they cant sell now cheaply what they got and buy coins,best thing they can do is keep mining and hope one day they can recover their losses.
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April 11, 2014, 10:34:04 AM
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Fell so far, BTC also fell, mining without profit Angry Angry Angry

Mining with Loss  Grin Profit is far far away

The whole network still has the count hashrate over 80g
 Angry Angry

Difficulty more than 2500

Dont think people will turn off their machines now because they are mining in loss , some people think about future

but you can buy from the market,   
1btc=more than 5w, why mine!
 Huh Huh Huh

Because they already got rigs, they cant sell now cheaply what they got and buy coins,best thing they can do is keep mining and hope one day they can recover their losses.


Refuse to realize one's error
so.. Shocked Shocked Shocked

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April 11, 2014, 10:54:26 AM
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Fell so far, BTC also fell, mining without profit Angry Angry Angry

Mining with Loss  Grin Profit is far far away

The whole network still has the count hashrate over 80g
 Angry Angry

Difficulty more than 2500

Dont think people will turn off their machines now because they are mining in loss , some people think about future

but you can buy from the market,   
1btc=more than 5w, why mine!
 Huh Huh Huh

Because they already got rigs, they cant sell now cheaply what they got and buy coins,best thing they can do is keep mining and hope one day they can recover their losses.


Refuse to realize one's error
so.. Shocked Shocked Shocked

actually they are supporting the Network too,if no one Mine then the network will collapse,but true "Hard" times  Grin
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April 11, 2014, 11:14:01 AM
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Yeah, it would have been much better if it was set to 128 or so as default instead of 512. Still better than not changing.  Smiley
Not sure why that would have been 'better'.  The premise of the coin was, after all, that people could 'democratically' vote for the reward and some derived numbers from the get-go.  If you have to* pick a number between 0 and 1023, 512 is about as sane as it gets ( an argument could be made for 511 Wink ).

I think the power of pools + apathy of miners was simply not anticipated.  The former causing pools to effectively 'dictate' the defaults, and the latter causing those defaults to not be changed.  Pools could have been more proactive in teaching people about it (by not inserting a default numeric value at all, instead using a textual placeholder - same as they do for the username / password placeholders, and explaining to users what the value does) but then they'd be putting up a barrier for the apathetic miners who just want to get up and running with mining fast.. and if Pool A makes them read a bunch of stuff and think about the vote, while Pool B does not.. all things being equal, Pool B gets the miners.

Perhaps truly 'better' would have been for vote-less results to be accepted - essentially have the miner abstaining from voting, and going along with whatever 'the network' ends up voting.  Then the minority who do care could have had more control, and those who didn't care but suddenly wondered why the reward was changing the way it did would educate themselves and join in on the voting.  Of course this wouldn't prevent pools from setting default values anyway, but at least it would put the onus on the pool to explain why they are voting the exact value they are, instead of the current 'well, we have to put something there, so we set it mid-way'.

* Oddly enough, the website does mention "to disable voting then see How to mine", but the mining page ( http://heavycoin.github.io/mining.html ) doesn't mentioning anything about voting at all.

Technically speaking, the miner is required to set the vote (it is a part of hashed block header), so there is no way a pool could override that.

On a side note, cryptos are already fueled by a fusion of trustlessness, greed and ignorance, adding democracy to that is pretty much counter-productive IMO.
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April 11, 2014, 11:21:48 AM
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Fell so far, BTC also fell, mining without profit Angry Angry Angry

Mining with Loss  Grin Profit is far far away

The whole network still has the count hashrate over 80g
 Angry Angry

Difficulty more than 2500

Dont think people will turn off their machines now because they are mining in loss , some people think about future

but you can buy from the market,   
1btc=more than 5w, why mine!
 Huh Huh Huh

Because they already got rigs, they cant sell now cheaply what they got and buy coins,best thing they can do is keep mining and hope one day they can recover their losses.


Refuse to realize one's error
so.. Shocked Shocked Shocked

actually they are supporting the Network too,if no one Mine then the network will collapse,but true "Hard" times  Grin

I know, I have shut down my machine!! Sad Sad Sad Sad

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April 11, 2014, 11:22:15 AM
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Technically speaking, the miner is required to set the vote (it is a part of hashed block header), so there is no way a pool could override that.
Yeah, I didn't mean to imply that pools override miners' votes, just that they do set a default value in the batch files / scripts they provide, hence the 'dictate' in single quotes Smiley
Though hypothetically speaking, I'd imagine it would be possible to reject submissions that disagree with a pool's 'allowed range' of votes.  Of course that also means less rewards for the pool to begin with, and miners would quickly realize and change to a different pool so that's even worse for the pool.

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April 11, 2014, 11:25:10 AM
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Fell so far, BTC also fell, mining without profit Angry Angry Angry

Mining with Loss  Grin Profit is far far away

The whole network still has the count hashrate over 80g
 Angry Angry

Difficulty more than 2500

Dont think people will turn off their machines now because they are mining in loss , some people think about future

but you can buy from the market,   
1btc=more than 5w, why mine!
 Huh Huh Huh

Because they already got rigs, they cant sell now cheaply what they got and buy coins,best thing they can do is keep mining and hope one day they can recover their losses.


If I choose to give up
Is that I lost all don't come back
Or does it mean that I have to reduce losses to a minimum?

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