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Author Topic: [ANN] [HVC] Heavycoin - Ultra-secure, Decentralized Block Reward Voting, Fast  (Read 541743 times)
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April 22, 2014, 06:50:42 PM
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So I don't get it... other than the devs not being very active in this forum, (they are available and very responsive via bitmessage) whats this major problem everyone is talking about? The fact that the miners can "manipulate" the vote upwards supposedly in their favor?? The vote is actually currently at its lowest since release.. no?


Where are they responsive via bitmessage? I've never received a response from them

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April 22, 2014, 06:57:12 PM
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and a few pretty charts
oh no you didn't!  Angry

Oh yes he did Smiley
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Actually, the charts are pretty - thanks Wink (I just make them for fun/exploring different graphing methods in LibreOffice as we're moving away from MS Office at work - also doing a graph for MaxCoin stuff for one of the pools out there - it's good exercise)
However, the data they draw from would be downright depressing if I had any stake in HVC Cheesy
[size=7t]( Not trolling or trying to talk people down - just a fact that this coin (like so many others) has seen more glorious days.  Perhaps the clones will do things better from the get-go. )[/size]

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Sorry, couldn't resist.
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April 22, 2014, 07:27:55 PM
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oh no you didn't!  Angry
Sorry, couldn't resist.
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April 22, 2014, 07:59:21 PM
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hmm... It's been 6 days since my last post.

Just a quick note to say that we Heavycoin developers are still here and we will continue to support Heavycoin for the long term.   If there's something urgent then please send us a BitMessage.

Finally we are calling out to the supportive members of the community who have shown long-term commitment to Heavycoin.  We'd like to hear from you on BitMessage if you have ideas for promoting Heavycoin and getting it accepted more places.  There's quite a bit of HVC in the Heavy Fund and this should be put to good use.  Committed members with good ideas and the time to contribute toward them will receive large bounties for meeting their targets.
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April 22, 2014, 08:22:07 PM
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hmm... It's been 6 days since my last post.

Just a quick note to say that we Heavycoin developers are still here and we will continue to support Heavycoin for the long term.   If there's something urgent then please send us a BitMessage.

Finally we are calling out to the supportive members of the community who have shown long-term commitment to Heavycoin.  We'd like to hear from you on BitMessage if you have ideas for promoting Heavycoin and getting it accepted more places.  There's quite a bit of HVC in the Heavy Fund and this should be put to good use.  Committed members with good ideas and the time to contribute toward them will receive large bounties for meeting their targets.

After this comment, hvc todamoon! Thanks!

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April 22, 2014, 08:35:18 PM
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We have added a new chart to the website showing good performance of Heavycoin's Temporal Retargeting algorithm.

http://heavycoin.github.io/avg-blocktime-graph.html

Average block time is being constantly kept on 120 seconds.

We are really pleased from the result.

Thanks,

Nomisugi.
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hmm... It's been 6 days since my last post.

Just a quick note to say that we Heavycoin developers are still here and we will continue to support Heavycoin for the long term.   If there's something urgent then please send us a BitMessage.

Finally we are calling out to the supportive members of the community who have shown long-term commitment to Heavycoin.  We'd like to hear from you on BitMessage if you have ideas for promoting Heavycoin and getting it accepted more places.  There's quite a bit of HVC in the Heavy Fund and this should be put to good use.  Committed members with good ideas and the time to contribute toward them will receive large bounties for meeting their targets.

last post keccak512 on: April 14, 2014, 09:38:24 PM
current date:                April 22, 2014, 08:35:50 PM


looks like 8 days there to me  

you don't respond to bitmessage either so that's bullshit


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April 22, 2014, 08:52:25 PM
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hmm... It's been 6 days since my last post.

Just a quick note to say that we Heavycoin developers are still here and we will continue to support Heavycoin for the long term.   If there's something urgent then please send us a BitMessage.

Finally we are calling out to the supportive members of the community who have shown long-term commitment to Heavycoin.  We'd like to hear from you on BitMessage if you have ideas for promoting Heavycoin and getting it accepted more places.  There's quite a bit of HVC in the Heavy Fund and this should be put to good use.  Committed members with good ideas and the time to contribute toward them will receive large bounties for meeting their targets.

After this comment, hvc todamoon! Thanks!



Really? To the moon? I've got some beach front property in Arizona if you're interested? Smiley

What a blow off message.  "Continue to support"?  What does this mean exactly?  By support, do you only mean making wallet changes and things of that nature when needed? Are you essentially washing your hands of the coin except for what "has to be done" like OpenSSL fixes to the wallet? Do you have something big in store?

Long term plans are great and all but what about a short term plan?  What is it? Anything planned at all to raise current value?

Long term plans frankly aren't as important right now as short term plans. Hash rates and HVC value is dropping like a rock. People are dumping and all we get is "continue to support"?

What is more "urgent" then this (hash rates and HVC value) right now?  Why did you bill this coin as a "community" coin and then all but ditch the community?  Now you even want to take messages off-line to BitMessage? This is more public avoidance and exactly WHAT WE DO NOT NEED OR WANT!!!

Sorry if this comes off negatively, but we don't need bribes/bounties for ideas in private messages.  People want/need you right here in the public forums discussing these and other issues. There are people who could possibly make a difference or help with code, marketing, etc but this isn't possible when you go into hiding and don't share/talk to the community.

How about stepping up and addressing the community at large with any short term plans? How about giving us something that shuts me (and a few others) up?  I'm getting sick of my own messages. Smiley
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April 22, 2014, 08:55:05 PM
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This coin is so dead...

 
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April 22, 2014, 09:02:31 PM
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I'm getting sick of my own messages. Smiley

Yeah! We're sick of his messages! (j/k Wink )

BTW, i'm going to come up with a digital game download storefront in the coming weeks that will include HVC as form of payment (as well as other cryptos) and will rally some other indie devs to it (i myself develop games).

I hope these efforts along with other members' can make this (and other nice cryptos out there) stronger.

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April 22, 2014, 09:51:28 PM
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This coin is so dead...

Doctor has called TOD at 07:59:21 PM  Angry
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April 22, 2014, 10:11:52 PM
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hmm... It's been 6 days since my last post.

Just a quick note to say that we Heavycoin developers are still here and we will continue to support Heavycoin for the long term.   If there's something urgent then please send us a BitMessage.

Finally we are calling out to the supportive members of the community who have shown long-term commitment to Heavycoin.  We'd like to hear from you on BitMessage if you have ideas for promoting Heavycoin and getting it accepted more places.  There's quite a bit of HVC in the Heavy Fund and this should be put to good use.  Committed members with good ideas and the time to contribute toward them will receive large bounties for meeting their targets.

After this comment, hvc todamoon! Thanks!



Really? To the moon? I've got some beach front property in Arizona if you're interested? Smiley

What a blow off message.  "Continue to support"?  What does this mean exactly?  By support, do you only mean making wallet changes and things of that nature when needed? Are you essentially washing your hands of the coin except for what "has to be done" like OpenSSL fixes to the wallet? Do you have something big in store?

Long term plans are great and all but what about a short term plan?  What is it? Anything planned at all to raise current value?

Long term plans frankly aren't as important right now as short term plans. Hash rates and HVC value is dropping like a rock. People are dumping and all we get is "continue to support"?

What is more "urgent" then this (hash rates and HVC value) right now?  Why did you bill this coin as a "community" coin and then all but ditch the community?  Now you even want to take messages off-line to BitMessage? This is more public avoidance and exactly WHAT WE DO NOT NEED OR WANT!!!

Sorry if this comes off negatively, but we don't need bribes/bounties for ideas in private messages.  People want/need you right here in the public forums discussing these and other issues. There are people who could possibly make a difference or help with code, marketing, etc but this isn't possible when you go into hiding and don't share/talk to the community.

How about stepping up and addressing the community at large with any short term plans? How about giving us something that shuts me (and a few others) up?  I'm getting sick of my own messages. Smiley
same question?
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April 22, 2014, 11:01:23 PM
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Maybe we need to wait 6 days for another reply.
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April 22, 2014, 11:18:48 PM
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IMO the devs need to use the IPO fund to hire at least a project/community manager to manage hvc activities.   171BTC is a lot of money... if this is not done this coin will die

He should be active here in btctalk, bitmessage or #heavycoin channel so that people could brainstorm and discuss...or whatever ...
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April 22, 2014, 11:54:55 PM
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I still don't get what the big deal is...

So what, so some guy makes an argument (and that's all it is, an argument, nothing technically wrong with the coin) about time frames and mint phases ect, and what HE THINKs is best...

We can all speculate on how things will play out, but fact of the matter is, not one single person or one single crypto-currency will ever get supply/demand/time correct. Its impossible to predict the traction something will gain/not gain with any sort of real accuracy. Adding the voting was a new and innovative way of trying to deal with this reality, and is offering a much better experiment/feature then 99% of the all the other coins out there.

Also, all of you claiming the coin is dead because its not getting a complete make over every week...  The devs are not required to do anything but pass out bounties, and "SUPPORT THE COIN". Implementing some random dudes argument about what he thinks is better IS NOT part of their responsibility.

Does the Litecoin developer sit in the Litecoin thread all day long responding to trolls?? No... He does not, and nobody cares because all that matters is security updates and basic bug fixes. No little argument about economic models is going to change the rules of Litecoin, and subsequently the whole game for all the investors who already bought in already knowing and agreeing to those rules. To change the coin properties based on one speculator would be unfair to everyone else.

ALSO, why wouldn't you just trade on your speculation about what will happen to price down the road, when it happens, Instead of coming in here now and making multiple long posts about it?? Especially if you were a supposed stake holder... I think we all know by now that there really is only one reason to do such things... Just sad how much this coin has taken a beating from all this. Could have really had some natural momentum going for it from the starting line, but now everyone is all skeptical because of the price drop.   Angry
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April 23, 2014, 12:26:40 AM
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I still don't get what the big deal is...
In one word: SECURITY
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So what, so some guy makes an argument (and that's all it is, an argument, nothing technically wrong with the coin) about time frames and mint phases ect, and what HE THINKs is best...

We can all speculate on how things will play out, but fact of the matter is, not one single person or one single crypto-currency will ever get supply/demand/time correct. Its impossible to predict the traction something will gain/not gain with any sort of real accuracy. Adding the voting was a new and innovative way of trying to deal with this reality, and is offering a much better experiment/feature then 99% of the all the other coins out there.

Also, all of you claiming the coin is dead because its not getting a complete make over every week...  The devs are not required to do anything but pass out bounties, and "SUPPORT THE COIN". Implementing some random dudes argument about what he thinks is better IS NOT part of their responsibility.

Does the Litecoin developer sit in the Litecoin thread all day long responding to trolls?? No... He does not, and nobody cares because all that matters is security updates and basic bug fixes. No little argument about economic models is going to change the rules of Litecoin, and subsequently the whole game for all the investors who already bought in already knowing and agreeing to those rules. To change the coin properties based on one speculator would be unfair to everyone else.

ALSO, why wouldn't you just trade on your speculation about what will happen to price down the road, when it happens, Instead of coming in here now and making multiple long posts about it?? Especially if you were a supposed stake holder... I think we all know by now that there really is only one reason to do such things... Just sad how much this coin has taken a beating from all this. Could have really had some natural momentum going for it from the starting line, but now everyone is all skeptical because of the price drop.   Angry
Don't take anyone's word for it. Breakout a spreadsheet or get out your calculator and some paper and do a few math problems.  Will take you all of 5 or 10 minutes. You can easily figure out what the vote counts will do to the different phases of the coin. Just run it 3 times.  Vote of 1, 512 and 1024 to see the extremes and mid vote.  Then use a number you think from your gut that will be the vote count entering each phase.

What happens and will there be miners left in the sustain phase?  If not you have a security problem and the coin is compromised.  You'll see for yourself what happens with a mid-point vote of 512 which more then likely will be close to the vote give or take 150.  Reward jumps up in second phase (which will more then likely cause the coin to de-value as more coins are being produced.  Then it drops to at most 8 HVC in 3rd phase.  How does the coin survive a 100 fold decrease in mining profitability?  It can't in all but the most likelyhood.  When you loose miners, you loose hashing and all your coins security.

But again, don't take anyone's word for it.  Do the math yourself, then come back and post what you find.  Then decide if it's something you want to mine now or invest in.

If the answer is YES, then you basically have as much coins to buy cheap now that you want.
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April 23, 2014, 01:06:16 AM
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I still don't get what the big deal is...
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So immaculately well said. I couldn't agree more.

What happens and will there be miners left in the sustain phase?  If not you have a security problem and the coin is compromised.  You'll see for yourself what happens with a mid-point vote of 512 which more then likely will be close to the vote give or take 150.  Reward jumps up in second phase (which will more then likely cause the coin to de-value as more coins are being produced.  Then it drops to at most 8 HVC in 3rd phase.  How does the coin survive a 100 fold decrease in mining profitability?  It can't in all but the most likelyhood.  When you loose miners, you loose hashing and all your coins security.

But again, don't take anyone's word for it.  Do the math yourself, then come back and post what you find.  Then decide if it's something you want to mine now or invest in.

If the answer is YES, then you basically have as much coins to buy cheap now that you want.

Miners always think they're so important. Guess what? They're not.

 
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April 23, 2014, 01:15:01 AM
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I believe that heavycoin will go down this is because miners are greedy.  They set the number of coins rewards to be too high and thus cause an excessive supply of heavycoin.  They then being dumping this coin to get their profit.  I believe that there should be a balance to this coin in that 50% of the votes should come from PoS.

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April 23, 2014, 01:59:46 AM
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Oh my god! Finally the vote is sub 500! To bad network hashrate is so low. But as I said before, this might be what we need to get the vote down to a good level for longer term mining. The problem is that if hvc gains value all the greedy miners will come back and vote high as they have done up untill now. This is the problem that never goes away. The hvc faithful will vote low because they believe long term mining is key to hvc success.
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April 23, 2014, 03:49:48 AM
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I still don't get what the big deal is...
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So what, so some guy makes an argument (and that's all it is, an argument, nothing technically wrong with the coin) about time frames and mint phases ect, and what HE THINKs is best...

We can all speculate on how things will play out, but fact of the matter is, not one single person or one single crypto-currency will ever get supply/demand/time correct. Its impossible to predict the traction something will gain/not gain with any sort of real accuracy. Adding the voting was a new and innovative way of trying to deal with this reality, and is offering a much better experiment/feature then 99% of the all the other coins out there.

Also, all of you claiming the coin is dead because its not getting a complete make over every week...  The devs are not required to do anything but pass out bounties, and "SUPPORT THE COIN". Implementing some random dudes argument about what he thinks is better IS NOT part of their responsibility.

Does the Litecoin developer sit in the Litecoin thread all day long responding to trolls?? No... He does not, and nobody cares because all that matters is security updates and basic bug fixes. No little argument about economic models is going to change the rules of Litecoin, and subsequently the whole game for all the investors who already bought in already knowing and agreeing to those rules. To change the coin properties based on one speculator would be unfair to everyone else.

ALSO, why wouldn't you just trade on your speculation about what will happen to price down the road, when it happens, Instead of coming in here now and making multiple long posts about it?? Especially if you were a supposed stake holder... I think we all know by now that there really is only one reason to do such things... Just sad how much this coin has taken a beating from all this. Could have really had some natural momentum going for it from the starting line, but now everyone is all skeptical because of the price drop.   Angry
Don't take anyone's word for it. Breakout a spreadsheet or get out your calculator and some paper and do a few math problems.  Will take you all of 5 or 10 minutes. You can easily figure out what the vote counts will do to the different phases of the coin. Just run it 3 times.  Vote of 1, 512 and 1024 to see the extremes and mid vote.  Then use a number you think from your gut that will be the vote count entering each phase.

What happens and will there be miners left in the sustain phase?  If not you have a security problem and the coin is compromised.  You'll see for yourself what happens with a mid-point vote of 512 which more then likely will be close to the vote give or take 150.  Reward jumps up in second phase (which will more then likely cause the coin to de-value as more coins are being produced.  Then it drops to at most 8 HVC in 3rd phase.  How does the coin survive a 100 fold decrease in mining profitability?  It can't in all but the most likelyhood.  When you loose miners, you loose hashing and all your coins security.

But again, don't take anyone's word for it.  Do the math yourself, then come back and post what you find.  Then decide if it's something you want to mine now or invest in.

If the answer is YES, then you basically have as much coins to buy cheap now that you want.

LOL cayars...

"Do the math yourself" LOL. You're still only speculating on what the value/price will be. You cant "do the math" without that variable....
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