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Author Topic: [ANN] [HVC] Heavycoin - Ultra-secure, Decentralized Block Reward Voting, Fast  (Read 541741 times)
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April 15, 2014, 08:05:43 AM
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How many accounts did you create to support nonce pool?
I think the best is 1gh
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April 15, 2014, 11:55:17 AM
Last edit: April 15, 2014, 12:41:35 PM by TheRealSteve
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Pool hash rates and miners
pool
rate (Mh/s)*
delta***
% of network
miners**
  rate/miner
fee (%)
payout
http://hvc.1gh.com/
41,435.04
1,537.73
65.21
1
RBPPS
http://heavycoin.zhpool.com/
27,687.40
1,544.60
43.57
459.1
60.31
1
PPLNS
http://heavycoin.miningpoolhub.com/
7,995.40
24.42
12.58
47.9
166.92
1
PROP
http://hvc.nonce-pool.com/
636.27
91.06
1
38.2
16.66
1
PPLNS
https://heavycoinpool.com/
0.22
-0.02
0
2
0.11
(shut  down)
http://heavy.stablehash.com/
0.00
0.00
0
0
0
1
PROP
https://hvc.crunchharder.net/
0.00
0.00
0
0
0
2
PPLNS
total
77,754.33
3,197.79
network rate
63,540
-3,780
* due to rate variability displayed through pool statistics pages, rates are based on average of 10 samples over the past hour
** miner count for 1gh unavailable
*** Delta since last update


Block Progression and Pool Luck

last 24h
1gh
nonce
zhpool
poolhub
hash avg
42,240.87
742.59
27,277.89
7,972.84
blocks
454
6
304
36
hash %
53.99
0.95
34.87
10.19
blocks %
56.75
0.75
38.00
4.50
luck %
105.10
79.00
109.00
44.20
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last 7d
1gh
nonce
zhpool
poolhub
hash avg
43,948.93
640.75
32,908.38
8,425.33
blocks
2,652
36
1,928
346
hash %
51.15
0.75
38.30
9.81
blocks %
53.45
0.73
38.86
6.97
luck %
104.49
97.29
101.45
71.11

1gh Top stats
Top 100Mhash/s|Top 10Mhash/s
Total:33,706.62|Total:10,269.02
Mean rate:337.07|Mean rate:1,026.90
Median rate:209.51|Median rate:890.42
Mode(10) rate:120|Mode(100) rate:700
% of pool:81.3%|% of pool:24.8%
% of network:43.4%|% of network:13.2%

Pool voting


Mining (indicative, not authoritative!)
payoff per Mhash/s / dayideal solo
1gh
nonce
zhpool
poolhub
HVC4.64260
4.64
4.32
4.51
3.16
mBTC0.11602
0.12
0.11
0.11
0.08
USD0.05845
0.06
0.05
0.06
0.04
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pool take/day
1gh
nonce
zhpool
poolhub
HVC
2,060.98
27.98
1,498.33
268.89
BTC
0.05
0.00
0.04
0.01
USD
25.95
0.35
18.86
3.39
Based on last 7 days performance and... block reward: HVC544 | mBTC/HVC: 0.02499 | USD/BTC: $503.8

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April 15, 2014, 11:57:42 AM
Last edit: April 15, 2014, 12:31:29 PM by TheRealSteve
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Changed my stats post around a bit - mostly re-organizing the graphs, adding a 'Pool voting' bit.

Still not sure who's finding those 'other' blocks to begin with, if anybody knows if there's an active pool missing, let me know.  Otherwise I guess it's just somebody|ies with a fair bit of hashing power Smiley

Also no idea what's going on with miningpoolhub's luck.

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April 15, 2014, 02:54:07 PM
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If new miner would come out people would be re-downloading and since default block vote within the miner is 1 it might help lower vote as well.

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April 15, 2014, 03:03:23 PM
Last edit: April 16, 2014, 03:26:31 AM by cryptomines
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Still not sure who's finding those 'other' blocks to begin with, if anybody knows if there's an active pool missing, let me know.  Otherwise I guess it's just somebody|ies with a fair bit of hashing power Smiley


I'm wondering if it is the Chinese pool listed on page 1? Just a guess.

How many accounts did you create to support nonce pool?
I think the best is 1gh

I have just 1 account, not sure I follow the question tho. 1Gh is great and they were the first to lower the default vote, for that I have tremendous respect, but putting all our hashing power into one pool isn't good for the network. We need a few solid pools, not just 1 huge one.

Looks like I will make more coin at Nonce than I was at Zhpool! Will report back after 24 hours. Good to see more miners moving over to Nonce!
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April 15, 2014, 03:36:52 PM
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Last 10 blocks each:
Nonce: 307.7 and dropping fast as the last 5 out of 6 blocks have a vote count of 1 <-- nice
ZHPool: 467.4 average for the last 10 blocks

Could be dumb luck but it looks like the word is getting out to lower votes!

PS I like getting 50+ coins a pop at Nonce right now per block.
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April 15, 2014, 04:01:01 PM
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Hey Devs any marketing developments or updates as to how things are going? we need to maybe get some advertising done or something.
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April 15, 2014, 04:01:37 PM
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Last 10 blocks each:
Nonce: 307.7 and dropping fast as the last 5 out of 6 blocks have a vote count of 1 <-- nice
ZHPool: 467.4 average for the last 10 blocks

Could be dumb luck but it looks like the word is getting out to lower votes!

PS I like getting 50+ coins a pop at Nonce right now per block.

Just pointed my 240 Mh to Nonce.

Let's see how it goes, I was getting about 1100-1300/day coins on 1GH with them,
If I was solo mining I would have got atleast 1650+ for the past few days, because each of these 3 gets atleast 1 block daily.

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April 15, 2014, 04:08:28 PM
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I've been mining Heavycoin for a bit now. What's the consensus on votes? I don't feel like fishing through 352 pages, and noticed someone mentioning it on this page.

What should I change it to?
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April 15, 2014, 04:20:46 PM
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I've been mining Heavycoin for a bit now. What's the consensus on votes? I don't feel like fishing through 352 pages, and noticed someone mentioning it on this page.

What should I change it to?

Your choice but 1 would be fine. Smiley

Lower block reward extends current mining phase. See http://heavycoin.github.io/about.html for details (click "decentralized voting" tab).

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April 15, 2014, 04:23:26 PM
Last edit: April 15, 2014, 04:39:54 PM by cryptomines
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I've been mining Heavycoin for a bit now. What's the consensus on votes? I don't feel like fishing through 352 pages, and noticed someone mentioning it on this page.

What should I change it to?

Vote 1 please. A longer mint phase benefits everyone. I actually dropped mine to 0.


Just pointed my 240 Mh to Nonce.

Let's see how it goes, I was getting about 1100-1300/day coins on 1GH with them,
If I was solo mining I would have got atleast 1650+ for the past few days, because each of these 3 gets atleast 1 block daily.



Good to see you over there. I was on Zhpool and was getting 275 HVC daily, in 18 hours at nonce Ive got 265 HVC. I'll be sticking with Nonce. The bigger payouts are nice too.
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April 15, 2014, 04:43:02 PM
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I'm wondering if it is the Chinese pool listed on page 1? Just a guess.
Maybe.  I never got that thing to load and assumed it was either dead or simply doesn't have a webpage Smiley

Of the pools listed:
poolstatus
hvc.nonce-pool.comhealthy
heavycoin.zhpool.comhealthy
hvc.1gh.comhealthy
heavycoin.miningpoolhub.comhealthy (but see note on 'luck')
heavy.stablehash.cominactive
hvc.crunchharder.netinactive
hvc.pool.mninactive and misconfigured
hvc.v36.net:8002won't load
heavycoinpool.comshut down

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April 15, 2014, 04:54:27 PM
Last edit: April 15, 2014, 07:13:25 PM by incin
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Nice little boost to Nonce hash rate, pushed it over 1GH/s....  Grin

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April 15, 2014, 06:25:17 PM
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Nice little boost to Nonce hash rate, pushed it over 1GH....  Grin

What boost ? I can see 1GH having 40x more hashrate than nonce ? The last block on nonce was 5h ago ?
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April 15, 2014, 06:35:13 PM
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Nice little boost to Nonce hash rate, pushed it over 1GH....  Grin
What boost ? I can see 1GH having 40x more hashrate than nonce ? The last block on nonce was 5h ago ?
woosh Wink

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April 15, 2014, 06:37:48 PM
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Nice little boost to Nonce hash rate, pushed it over 1GH....  Grin

What boost ? I can see 1GH having 40x more hashrate than nonce ? The last block on nonce was 5h ago ?

Nonce hash went up 35% from when i posted that. Yes 1GH still massive. Block found at nonce just a few minutes ago...

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April 15, 2014, 06:55:14 PM
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Excellent, thank you.

Pulled rig off of Zhpool and moved to nonce pool. Hope to see more miners do the same, at least until Zhpool removes the 1024 default vote.

hm... we can do that if you need us to make the deicision for you.

Actually, we will not suggest our minners' votes now and future, minners should make their own choice per their own decision.

And, we don't think low voting do much benifit to HeavyCoin community but only the price when you dump your coins for money.

We have worked or been working on ---

1. We have completed HeavyCoin voting system merged to latest MPOS release, and share all the source code we are running to HeavyCoin developper.

2. We tested HVC algo with FPGA, and publish the result to community, giving you the confidence in HeavyCoin technically.

3. We are helping choosing and pushing a nice name to the biggest market - China. Currently on one of the biggest Chinese info site http://yibite.com/download/112.html

4. We are sitll waiting for keccak512 to choose the new logo, we are planning producing some really nice custom gift for our minners(as reward) and the community(for sale with HVC) I am not supposed to annouce this at this time.

5. We devoted 8 delicated servers to run a dedicated pool for HeavyCoin, those cost us everyday, but we have not dump one single HVC to market.

We have the confidence in HVC, we are trying to help as we can.
Pumping the price? that is the last thing we do.

Anyway, you have your choice to mine at any HVC pool, and your vote.


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April 15, 2014, 10:13:25 PM
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i dont know but really something wrong with this coin, hes goes all the just down and down...i almost every drop buying, but that is never ends, i keep 137k HVC.. escpecially in this i think i can call altcoins bull market... i have ready 2BTC to buy HVC, but now not sure...
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April 15, 2014, 10:24:41 PM
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I'm doing a research project on coin distribution for both older and new coins. I'm interested on gathering some data for top addresses and how much of the coins the top100 have. This along with the number of people (addresses) actually holding any amount of coins.

I have some info from bitinfocharts on a few coins but I really do need some data on other coins along with less exposed or new ones.

If anyone knows an explorer with this feature drop a line.

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April 15, 2014, 10:37:53 PM
Last edit: April 16, 2014, 12:06:55 AM by cayars
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Excellent, thank you.

Pulled rig off of Zhpool and moved to nonce pool. Hope to see more miners do the same, at least until Zhpool removes the 1024 default vote.

hm... we can do that if you need us to make the deicision for you.

Actually, we will not suggest our minners' votes now and future, minners should make their own choice per their own decision.

And, we don't think low voting do much benifit to HeavyCoin community but only the price when you dump your coins for money.

As a pool operator I'm surprised you don't get it as it's just simple math.  Plus we've been discussing it in the forum the past week.  It seems you only care about "price to dump" your coin for.  I guess "rape and pillage" is one way to go if you're a pool operator but that is not good for the rest of us. And honestly you yourself could make more off of a lower vote count.
 
ZHPool, a question for you.  Assuming voting stays the same.  What do you think will happen to both your pool and HVC in general if the reward per block suddenly drops from 550 coins to 5 coins?  This could very well happen when the coin enters the sustain phase. Remember the sustain phase will not pay more then 8 HVC per block (at the highest) regardless of vote count!

If there is NOT a smooth transition from the current block reward down to under 10 HVC there could be problems entering the sustain phase.

If you assume the voting stays about the same and the value of the coin stays about the same then all of a sudden the coin will be worth about 100 times less to mine when phase 3 (sustain) takes affect. Your HVC pool may very well die and maybe the coin too.

Now let me propose a different strategy:  People start voting much lower.  This will increase difficulty but will also expand the mint phase. The market will slowly adjust and the value of HVC will go up as the difficulty goes up because they coin is harder to mine.  Nothing is going to happen overnight BUT with the reward per block slowly getting smaller and the value of HVC getting bigger they will "cover/complement" each other. 

This allows the reward per block reward to get smaller and smaller over the next couple of months while HVC increases in value.  If done correctly then the reward per block won't be 550 but maybe 50 or so.  There will not be such a drastic drop off in reward going into the sustain phase.

PLUS, by reducing the vote count it will EXTEND the mint phase which in turn givse more time for the value of HVC to adjust. 

Translation, you "can" make more as a pool operator by helping to extend the mint phase. You surely can make more long term by having the coin still alive and doing well in 3 months!

Just for clarification: No one is asking to "force" anyone to do anything.  All we are suggesting is replacing the default vote count in your samples with a vote count of 1.  Users are still free to change it to whatever they choose.

I would be happy to put together a 5 or 6 line paragraph explaining the vote parameter you could include with the configs.

I would be happy to take this offline to PM or email if you like.  I'd first love to "win you over" personally first.  At best it would be good for your pool and the worst case would probably be "neutral" to your pool.

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