[ANN] [HVC] Heavycoin - Ultra-secure, Decentralized Block Reward Voting, Fast

[fredeq]

Can someone tell me what is the usual heavycoin power usage compared to scrypt? Lower, higher? I need a specific value for the hashrate you get. Best would be for udnervolted 280x or 290.

I am trying to add heavy to my site and need this data.

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[kqpahv]

Can someone tell me what is the usual heavycoin power usage compared to scrypt? Lower, higher? I need a specific value for the hashrate you get. Best would be for udnervolted 280x or 290.

I am trying to add heavy to my site and need this data.

Way,way lower. I am getting 480W for a 80Mhash 4x 280x rig. Apparently not everyone are getting numbers as low but 600W for 80Mhash is very easy to achieve.

[incin]

Can someone tell me what is the usual heavycoin power usage compared to scrypt? Lower, higher? I need a specific value for the hashrate you get. Best would be for udnervolted 280x or 290.

I am trying to add heavy to my site and need this data.

3 x 270x System

Code:

Scrypt: 655 watts @ 500 MH/s / Card

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HVC: 440 watts @ 15MH/s / Card

[fredeq]

Thank you for the data

[Wenzel745]

a little word to you all, the reason for the success of blackcoin and the likes is because people don't put their orders above for a lazy profit. It dissuades the market makes it top heavy and makes you wait longer / never until cashing that. You see 100s of smart asses buy up and put a double up sell down oblivious to the fact when that happens the market will shake.

TAKE OFF THE HIGH SELLS PLEASE.

blackcoins multipool helps a lot, that's one of the reasons their price is doing so well.

BC Multipool only buys between 50-100BTC/day based on Twitter. Driving force on their price is strong community involvement, CoinKite adoption, PoS model, etc.

I would argue that in this current climate of tumbling coin prices that their multipool, by creating buy support, has essentially made their coin stand out as one which is bucking the downward trend, this in turn has attracted investors and those who feel its a safe store of value while everything else decreases.

The question for us then, would be why would miners mine on an HVC multipool if BC already has that niche filled? An HVC multipool would lose the efficiency of Hefty1, and decreases the network hashrate. If we go PoS, sure, multipool would be great. But buy support for a weaker network doesn't seem like it's a great idea.

[akabane]

a little word to you all, the reason for the success of blackcoin and the likes is because people don't put their orders above for a lazy profit. It dissuades the market makes it top heavy and makes you wait longer / never until cashing that. You see 100s of smart asses buy up and put a double up sell down oblivious to the fact when that happens the market will shake.

TAKE OFF THE HIGH SELLS PLEASE.

blackcoins multipool helps a lot, that's one of the reasons their price is doing so well.

BC Multipool only buys between 50-100BTC/day based on Twitter. Driving force on their price is strong community involvement, CoinKite adoption, PoS model, etc.

I would argue that in this current climate of tumbling coin prices that their multipool, by creating buy support, has essentially made their coin stand out as one which is bucking the downward trend, this in turn has attracted investors and those who feel its a safe store of value while everything else decreases.

The question for us then, would be why would miners mine on an HVC multipool if BC already has that niche filled? An HVC multipool would lose the efficiency of Hefty1, and decreases the network hashrate. If we go PoS, sure, multipool would be great. But buy support for a weaker network doesn't seem like it's a great idea.

Yes no point of doing a multipool it will only decrease security of the network.
What HVC need is to be accepted in services like prypto.

[massiveman]

a little word to you all, the reason for the success of blackcoin and the likes is because people don't put their orders above for a lazy profit. It dissuades the market makes it top heavy and makes you wait longer / never until cashing that. You see 100s of smart asses buy up and put a double up sell down oblivious to the fact when that happens the market will shake.

TAKE OFF THE HIGH SELLS PLEASE.

blackcoins multipool helps a lot, that's one of the reasons their price is doing so well.

BC Multipool only buys between 50-100BTC/day based on Twitter. Driving force on their price is strong community involvement, CoinKite adoption, PoS model, etc.

I would argue that in this current climate of tumbling coin prices that their multipool, by creating buy support, has essentially made their coin stand out as one which is bucking the downward trend, this in turn has attracted investors and those who feel its a safe store of value while everything else decreases.

basically i believe people are fickle, especially in the crypto currency world which has very few true investors, lots of speculators. So I think buy support is good, that's why I believe in a multi-pool for this coin. You say blackcoin has that niche filled but there is tons of room for another multi pool,the BC pool doesnt have that many miners even.
The question for us then, would be why would miners mine on an HVC multipool if BC already has that niche filled? An HVC multipool would lose the efficiency of Hefty1, and decreases the network hashrate. If we go PoS, sure, multipool would be great. But buy support for a weaker network doesn't seem like it's a great idea.

[Kreativekrypto]

Let's think outside the box on this multipool possibility, what if we developed the first x11/hefty-1 merged mining multipool. Issue with hvc network solved? I'm purely trying to figure out new options for us.

[dygus]

Can someone tell me what is the usual heavycoin power usage compared to scrypt? Lower, higher? I need a specific value for the hashrate you get. Best would be for udnervolted 280x or 290.

I am trying to add heavy to my site and need this data.

Way,way lower. I am getting 480W for a 80Mhash 4x 280x rig. Apparently not everyone are getting numbers as low but 600W for 80Mhash is very easy to achieve.

How did you get 80 Mhs for such low power. I also have 4x280 and I've got only 70 Mhs for 630 W?

[cayars]

I could be totally wrong but I would think the multi pool idea has some problems of its own.

The pool mines other coins and dumps/exchanges them for BTC. This causes those coins to lose value as there is a constant sell going on from the pool.  You then also have two sets of fees to factor in.

I'm sure we'll see copy cats of BC doing this soon. All this hash power mining and selling the other alt coins will drive down the price of the BTC you get from mining which is needed to purchase HVC.

It'll work OK for the first coin but have diminishing returns with multiple coins trying to setup multipools.

Just a thought.

We might need an original idea of own that no one else is doing to get maximum benefit.

[jakiman]

How did you get 80 Mhs for such low power. I also have 4x280 and I've got only 70 Mhs for 630 W?

Best I could do 585W (at wall) @ 1080/1000 @ 1.054V @ 19.8MH/s each. (79.2 Mhs)
(4 x Gigabyte 280x, AMD FM2 4400, 8GB RAM, Bronze PSU)

[jakiman]

I could be totally wrong but I would think the multi pool idea has some problems of its own.

The pool mines other coins and dumps/exchanges them for BTC. This causes those coins to lose value as there is a constant sell going on from the pool.  You then also have two sets of fees to factor in.

I'm sure we'll see copy cats of BC doing this soon. All this hash power mining and selling the other alt coins will drive down the price of the BTC you get from mining which is needed to purchase HVC.

It'll work OK for the first coin but have diminishing returns with multiple coins trying to setup multipools.

Just a thought.

We might need an original idea of own that no one else is doing to get maximum benefit.

Nothing changes for other coins. Multipool has been around for quite a while now.
Same amount of coins are mined per day regardless and similar are getting sold.

It works well for Blackcoin because they made a nice anonymous pool and the coin itself cannot be mined.
But for other PoW coins, only reason I can see is if you want ASIC miners to mine & forget getting HVC. (if they even want HVC that is...)

[incin]

Well anyone with BlackCoin in their bags has seen a 4 fold price increase in 3 days. I bought this morning at the then current high and i have made more on that than 24 hours of mining (top 30 @ 1gh hash). Blackcoin is POS and has a very talented dev/market team supported by a strong community. We have a talented but near silent dev and strong community. A multipool requires competent people working the markets, that is to say blackcoin doesn't flood the market with altcoins. They disburse them across all the exchanges (automated where possible). If they devalue the alts then they shoot themselves in the foot.

As for HVC, I have supported it from day 1. HVC is POW and multipool is unlikely beneficial to the coin at this stage. As has been mentioned getting HVC accepted with some more merchants would probably be the single best thing right now. Voting is voting, big miners mine for profit (typically dumping) and low vote goes against their quick profits. Unfortunately they also are the ones with the most credited votes. Campaigning the big dogs to lower their vote isn't likely gonna happen either. HVC is still strong and a great algo. I think people are panicking too soon. The only issue with HVC right now is the sustain phase. We'll just have to see how it pans out i guess.

[Kreativekrypto]

Congrats everyone we completed our thunderclap goal 100%!!!

We can still add more to it but its now guaranteed to drop thank you to everyone who spread the word to make it happen.

Also with over 100,000 social reach we may get some people new to crypto posting here so we just need to be patient and grow the community through social and education!

[gpools]

Now we are have 100% support https://www.thunderclap.it/projects/10329-heavycoin-secure-e-currency?locale=en we need more please vote

[gpools]

Now we are have 100% support https://www.thunderclap.it/projects/10329-heavycoin-secure-e-currency?locale=en we need more please vote

Kreativekrypto PM me i want more plan PR HVC

[cayars]

I could be totally wrong but I would think the multi pool idea has some problems of its own.

The pool mines other coins and dumps/exchanges them for BTC. This causes those coins to lose value as there is a constant sell going on from the pool.  You then also have two sets of fees to factor in.

I'm sure we'll see copy cats of BC doing this soon. All this hash power mining and selling the other alt coins will drive down the price of the BTC you get from mining which is needed to purchase HVC.

It'll work OK for the first coin but have diminishing returns with multiple coins trying to setup multipools.

Just a thought.

We might need an original idea of own that no one else is doing to get maximum benefit.

Nothing changes for other coins. Multipool has been around for quite a while now.
Same amount of coins are mined per day regardless and similar are getting sold.

It works well for Blackcoin because they made a nice anonymous pool and the coin itself cannot be mined.
But for other PoW coins, only reason I can see is if you want ASIC miners to mine & forget getting HVC. (if they even want HVC that is...)

What I meant is that with 2 or 3 different multipools mining the same set of coins there would be a huge amount of dumping that would cause the mining of that coin to not be as profitable as just one multipool dumping it.

[cryptomines]

Congrats everyone we completed our thunderclap goal 100%!!!

We can still add more to it but its now guaranteed to drop thank you to everyone who spread the word to make it happen.

Also with over 100,000 social reach we may get some people new to crypto posting here so we just need to be patient and grow the community through social and education!

Great work! HVC has a great community!

If you are voting low please consider voting 1 as it will apply the maximum downward pressure to the vote. Longer term mining on the mint phase is our best option right now. Let's slow the mint and give us more time to figure out the next 2 phases.

Votes over the last 60min, 1024- 13 votes, 512- 27 votes, 64- 2 votes, 10- 2 votes, 1- 16 votes

How low can we go? Sub 500 for the next block reward?

Would be really good to have the final HVC logo before the thunder clap goes off....

[cayars]

Well anyone with BlackCoin in their bags has seen a 4 fold price increase in 3 days. I bought this morning at the then current high and i have made more on that than 24 hours of mining (top 30 @ 1gh hash).

its a pump and dump parasitic shitcoin, that is being over pumped and a lot of people will be left holding bags.
also why would anyone go "alt->bc->btc->usd" instead of simply "alt->btc->usd"?

probably more like alt>btc>bc>btc>usd
fee to change alt coint to btc
fee to change btc to black coin
on sell
fee on bc to btc
etc

[incin]

Well anyone with BlackCoin in their bags has seen a 4 fold price increase in 3 days. I bought this morning at the then current high and i have made more on that than 24 hours of mining (top 30 @ 1gh hash).

its a pump and dump parasitic shitcoin, that is being over pumped and a lot of people will be left holding bags.
also why would anyone go "alt->bc->btc->usd" instead of simply "alt->btc->usd"?

probably more like alt>btc>bc>btc>usd
fee to change alt coint to btc
fee to change btc to black coin
on sell
fee on bc to btc
etc

talk about scam :|
its pumped by same chinese whale(s) that robbed people blind using pump and dump fraud on many other alts

They are being added to Coinkite....
https://coinkite.com/faq/alts