⚽UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread -- 2021/22 winner - Real Madrid!

[cryptofrka]

Opposing teams really do score screamers against Dinamo. Tough to take, Dinamo was better overall and deserved the win going into 2nd leg.

Still, since the away goal rules do not apply anymore, Dinamo can play at their own tempo without having to rush for the goal and it will give them the needed stability. They are the better team, which was obvious to see yesterday, and I hope they will show that in the 2nd leg.

There was a lot of fans unrest in Zagreb, it will be messy in Poland again.

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[Altryist]

Opposing teams really do score screamers against Dinamo. Tough to take, Dinamo was better overall and deserved the win going into 2nd leg.

Still, since the away goal rules do not apply anymore, Dinamo can play at their own tempo without having to rush for the goal and it will give them the needed stability. They are the better team, which was obvious to see yesterday, and I hope they will show that in the 2nd leg.

There was a lot of fans unrest in Zagreb, it will be messy in Poland again.

Dynamo played very well, but if they could not realize their advantage in the goals scored, then this is only the merit of Legia. In football, it happens that it is not the strongest team that wins. Hopefully in the return match Dynamo will be able to convert chances into goals scored. But in the second match Legia will play at home and the fans can be an additional help to them.

[hahay]

Spartak was a disappointment, Benfica is a good team, but they will start season this weekend, and Spartak is already playing, but obviously difference is quality is to big to overcome simply by this

For the second leg, I feel Benfica will still win the game by more than 2 goals. After winning 2-0 in the first leg, Benfica will have the second leg match on 11 August vs Spartak Moscow. Even though it's safe to only draw Benfica, I don't think the match will end in a draw. Benfica will be the favorite once again.

Spartak Moscow have started the League and of course it's a different condition and also, the quality of these two teams has a real difference I think. As for Benfica starting the season this weekend in fact, Spartak Moscow have the same schedule and in fact, they are already preoccupied with the already running faster League. That's what I say these two teams have different conditions, with Benfica's better quality and more favorable timing then of course Benfica will be able to win against Spartak Moscow in the first leg and maybe in the second, even though a draw is enough for him.

[DU18]

Spartak was a disappointment, Benfica is a good team, but they will start season this weekend, and Spartak is already playing, but obviously difference is quality is to big to overcome simply by this

For the second leg, I feel Benfica will still win the game by more than 2 goals. After winning 2-0 in the first leg, Benfica will have the second leg match on 11 August vs Spartak Moscow. Even though it's safe to only draw Benfica, I don't think the match will end in a draw. Benfica will be the favorite once again.

In that match, Spartak Moscow was actually more superior but it was clear when the match took place Benfica played quite well and Benfica could be said to be very lucky to beat Spartak with a score of 0-2 and of course it became a very good capital when later playing in the second leg, but even so Spartak still has a chance to qualify for the next round, especially this season, UEFA has officially abolished the away goals rule so that both teams still have a chance to qualify for the last qualification before heading to the Champions League group phase next season.

[KTChampions]

Spartak Moscow have started the League and of course it's a different condition and also, the quality of these two teams has a real difference I think. As for Benfica starting the season this weekend in fact, Spartak Moscow have the same schedule and in fact, they are already preoccupied with the already running faster League. That's what I say these two teams have different conditions, with Benfica's better quality and more favorable timing then of course Benfica will be able to win against Spartak Moscow in the first leg and maybe in the second, even though a draw is enough for him.

Benfica has already won the first match in this confrontation (yesterday) and with a handicap of two goals in reserve and playing at home, most likely it has already guaranteed itself an exit to the next round. Theoretically, a miracle can happen and Spartak will score two goals in the return leg, but after the first game it's hard to believe.

[NotATether]

Does anyone know the current odds of PSG winning the CL now that Messi's on the brink of joining them?

Might be a good idea to take advantage of this market if it's still available (and bookies offer it at this time) before a deal is confirmed.

[mv1986]

Does anyone know the current odds of PSG winning the CL now that Messi's on the brink of joining them?

Might be a good idea to take advantage of this market if it's still available (and bookies offer it at this time) before a deal is confirmed.

Wouldn't bookies consider that type of news anyway when it is publicly discussed that heavily? This is actually an interesting question so it would be good to know if someone knew both the odds from before the deal was discussed and now that it is publicly known Messi is talking to PSG.

[condoras]

Does anyone know the current odds of PSG winning the CL now that Messi's on the brink of joining them?

Might be a good idea to take advantage of this market if it's still available (and bookies offer it at this time) before a deal is confirmed.

Wouldn't bookies consider that type of news anyway when it is publicly discussed that heavily? This is actually an interesting question so it would be good to know if someone knew both the odds from before the deal was discussed and now that it is publicly known Messi is talking to PSG.

Bookies don't change odds based on rumors or "talkings". It's well known that when (and if) these rumors being a fact, odds for PSG taking the CL will definitely change. I don't know how much and I don't believe that will change dramatically. However, bookies will know and it's more than sure that they will be prepared. After all, we are talking about Messi.

[NotATether]

Wouldn't bookies consider that type of news anyway when it is publicly discussed that heavily? This is actually an interesting question so it would be good to know if someone knew both the odds from before the deal was discussed and now that it is publicly known Messi is talking to PSG.

Too late, I already placed my bet on them before the odds slide  https://sportsbet.io/sharebetslip/3df4aef2-2f6f-4926-b265-6805133ec06d

Man City top 2 in EPL, Bayern Munich Bundesliga winner and PSG CL winner at boosted 7.18x odds is a no-brainer. It's not like Messi's going to stay a free agent the whole season, Man City already bought Grealish and aren't interested in him anymore, the rest of the rumors surrounding his transfer to other clubs (except for PSG) are a laughingstock.

No silliness this time around like I did with England - Denmark in the euros: just straight-up facts.

[Koal-84]

Some surprising results in Champions League Qualifications, Rangers lost from Malmo and it could be second club from Scotland to miss Champions League if they don't win at home next leg.
I expected Olympiacos to win but they only managed to get a 1:1 draw in last minutes of the match, and now Ferencvaros is leading with two goals against Slavia Prague.
Second leg is going to be even harder to predict but my early pick is on Rangers to win.

For me there were no big surprises, Celtic and Rangers are not the teams they used to be, but Rangers still have a chance for promotion. But it won't be easy.

For both Prague teams it will be over in this round, but they will both continue in the Europa League group stage and there they can collect points.

[Joca97]

Some surprising results in Champions League Qualifications, Rangers lost from Malmo and it could be second club from Scotland to miss Champions League if they don't win at home next leg.
I expected Olympiacos to win but they only managed to get a 1:1 draw in last minutes of the match, and now Ferencvaros is leading with two goals against Slavia Prague.
Second leg is going to be even harder to predict but my early pick is on Rangers to win.

For me there were no big surprises, Celtic and Rangers are not the teams they used to be, but Rangers still have a chance for promotion. But it won't be easy.

For both Prague teams it will be over in this round, but they will both continue in the Europa League group stage and there they can collect points.

Rangers lost and will have to win big at home. Gerrard is a really good manager and will probobly make a good tactic they arent fighting a tough opponent but they will have to play outstanding at home to win. Slavia Prague lost due to a goalkeeper mistake and has to recover two goals

[mv1986]

Some surprising results in Champions League Qualifications, Rangers lost from Malmo and it could be second club from Scotland to miss Champions League if they don't win at home next leg.
I expected Olympiacos to win but they only managed to get a 1:1 draw in last minutes of the match, and now Ferencvaros is leading with two goals against Slavia Prague.
Second leg is going to be even harder to predict but my early pick is on Rangers to win.

For me there were no big surprises, Celtic and Rangers are not the teams they used to be, but Rangers still have a chance for promotion. But it won't be easy.

For both Prague teams it will be over in this round, but they will both continue in the Europa League group stage and there they can collect points.

Rangers lost and will have to win big at home. Gerrard is a really good manager and will probobly make a good tactic they arent fighting a tough opponent but they will have to play outstanding at home to win. Slavia Prague lost due to a goalkeeper mistake and has to recover two goals

Well, they don't have to win that big I would say. If they can score a 2 to 0 they get the job done, and even with a 2 - 1 they make it to extra time. It will be hard though if Malmo manages to score first there, but the Rangers are definitely at tough opponent for almost any team in a home game.

[Koal-84]

Some surprising results in Champions League Qualifications, Rangers lost from Malmo and it could be second club from Scotland to miss Champions League if they don't win at home next leg.
I expected Olympiacos to win but they only managed to get a 1:1 draw in last minutes of the match, and now Ferencvaros is leading with two goals against Slavia Prague.
Second leg is going to be even harder to predict but my early pick is on Rangers to win.

For me there were no big surprises, Celtic and Rangers are not the teams they used to be, but Rangers still have a chance for promotion. But it won't be easy.

For both Prague teams it will be over in this round, but they will both continue in the Europa League group stage and there they can collect points.

Rangers lost and will have to win big at home. Gerrard is a really good manager and will probobly make a good tactic they arent fighting a tough opponent but they will have to play outstanding at home to win. Slavia Prague lost due to a goalkeeper mistake and has to recover two goals

Well, they don't have to win that big I would say. If they can score a 2 to 0 they get the job done, and even with a 2 - 1 they make it to extra time. It will be hard though if Malmo manages to score first there, but the Rangers are definitely at tough opponent for almost any team in a home game.

I still see a good chance for Rangers and promotion, but you shouldn't underestimate Malmö, as RedBull Salzburg have seen a few times when they lost to Malmö as favourites or were knocked out in the play-offs. Malmö has become a good middle class team in Europe in recent years and you should not underestimate them from the start.

[snipie]

Does anyone know the current odds of PSG winning the CL now that Messi's on the brink of joining them?

Might be a good idea to take advantage of this market if it's still available (and bookies offer it at this time) before a deal is confirmed.

I didn't follow the evolution of odds previously but right now it is 4.4 for PSG and 4.2 for City, Chelsea @10?? and ManU @13. I don't see the other teams able to compete those 4 and PSG, although having less chance than City considering the actual odds, seems to be the best in term of players skills especially if we count Messi on!
What I find quite disturbing is Chelsea odds, I mean they won the last version, they improved their team with good players and still have weird odds!

[KTChampions]

I didn't follow the evolution of odds previously but right now it is 4.4 for PSG and 4.2 for City, Chelsea @10?? and ManU @13. I don't see the other teams able to compete those 4 and PSG, although having less chance than City considering the actual odds, seems to be the best in term of players skills especially if we count Messi on!
What I find quite disturbing is Chelsea odds, I mean they won the last version, they improved their team with good players and still have weird odds!

Where do you see these odds, could you provide a link? To be honest, they look unrealistic, because if we place a bet on each of these 4 outcomes for $ 100, then for any outcome we will be in profit by at least $ 20, and a maximum by ~ 900.
Maybe you have confused something?
By the way, I am glad that the chances of moving to the English championship are greater than in PSG, I would not want Messi to be there.

[tyz]

Does anyone know the current odds of PSG winning the CL now that Messi's on the brink of joining them?

Might be a good idea to take advantage of this market if it's still available (and bookies offer it at this time) before a deal is confirmed.

I didn't follow the evolution of odds previously but right now it is 4.4 for PSG and 4.2 for City, Chelsea @10?? and ManU @13. I don't see the other teams able to compete those 4 and PSG, although having less chance than City considering the actual odds, seems to be the best in term of players skills especially if we count Messi on!
What I find quite disturbing is Chelsea odds, I mean they won the last version, they improved their team with good players and still have weird odds!

It has always been the case over the last few years that ManCity and PSG have been the highest favorites, and they have never won. It will be the same again this year. Even if PSG gets Messi, they won't win the CL. For one simple reason: they are not a real team. In the last few years, teams that were a united team have always won. Real Madrid, Bayern Munich and Chelsea.

[Altryist]

It has always been the case over the last few years that ManCity and PSG have been the highest favorites, and they have never won. It will be the same again this year. Even if PSG gets Messi, they won't win the CL. For one simple reason: they are not a real team. In the last few years, teams that were a united team have always won. Real Madrid, Bayern Munich and Chelsea.

What about Bayern, I agree, this is a real team, a single organism, but Chelsea does not seem to me to be a best team than Manchester City. Guardiola made a good team out of City, but managing such a team is difficult because there are many stars and everyone wants to prove themselves. Chelsea are just a team that wants to win, without showing off, perhaps this has become their main trump card in victory.

[3meek]

Does anyone know the current odds of PSG winning the CL now that Messi's on the brink of joining them?

Might be a good idea to take advantage of this market if it's still available (and bookies offer it at this time) before a deal is confirmed.

I didn't follow the evolution of odds previously but right now it is 4.4 for PSG and 4.2 for City, Chelsea @10?? and ManU @13. I don't see the other teams able to compete those 4 and PSG, although having less chance than City considering the actual odds, seems to be the best in term of players skills especially if we count Messi on!
What I find quite disturbing is Chelsea odds, I mean they won the last version, they improved their team with good players and still have weird odds!

It has always been the case over the last few years that ManCity and PSG have been the highest favorites, and they have never won. It will be the same again this year. Even if PSG gets Messi, they won't win the CL. For one simple reason: they are not a real team. In the last few years, teams that were a united team have always won. Real Madrid, Bayern Munich and Chelsea.

Man City are a good club too, they play great in the home championship! It's just that Chelsea have more experience in Champions League matches, they've won the Champions League title twice...
As for PSG, I think they could well win this season... They've played great in the past as well!

[BitcoinHunt3r]

Does anyone know the current odds of PSG winning the CL now that Messi's on the brink of joining them?

Might be a good idea to take advantage of this market if it's still available (and bookies offer it at this time) before a deal is confirmed.

I didn't follow the evolution of odds previously but right now it is 4.4 for PSG and 4.2 for City, Chelsea @10?? and ManU @13. I don't see the other teams able to compete those 4 and PSG, although having less chance than City considering the actual odds, seems to be the best in term of players skills especially if we count Messi on!
What I find quite disturbing is Chelsea odds, I mean they won the last version, they improved their team with good players and still have weird odds!

It has always been the case over the last few years that ManCity and PSG have been the highest favorites, and they have never won. It will be the same again this year. Even if PSG gets Messi, they won't win the CL. For one simple reason: they are not a real team. In the last few years, teams that were a united team have always won. Real Madrid, Bayern Munich and Chelsea.

Man City are a good club too, they play great in the home championship! It's just that Chelsea have more experience in Champions League matches, they've won the Champions League title twice...
As for PSG, I think they could well win this season... They've played great in the past as well!

I also say this is the best year for PSG they have been waiting for this title for too long so this is a great opportunity for them, PSG have a strong line-up this season and news of Messi's move to PSG is getting closer I can't imagine how they play with such a composition of players.

[mv1986]

Some surprising results in Champions League Qualifications, Rangers lost from Malmo and it could be second club from Scotland to miss Champions League if they don't win at home next leg.
I expected Olympiacos to win but they only managed to get a 1:1 draw in last minutes of the match, and now Ferencvaros is leading with two goals against Slavia Prague.
Second leg is going to be even harder to predict but my early pick is on Rangers to win.

For me there were no big surprises, Celtic and Rangers are not the teams they used to be, but Rangers still have a chance for promotion. But it won't be easy.

For both Prague teams it will be over in this round, but they will both continue in the Europa League group stage and there they can collect points.

Rangers lost and will have to win big at home. Gerrard is a really good manager and will probobly make a good tactic they arent fighting a tough opponent but they will have to play outstanding at home to win. Slavia Prague lost due to a goalkeeper mistake and has to recover two goals

Well, they don't have to win that big I would say. If they can score a 2 to 0 they get the job done, and even with a 2 - 1 they make it to extra time. It will be hard though if Malmo manages to score first there, but the Rangers are definitely at tough opponent for almost any team in a home game.

I still see a good chance for Rangers and promotion, but you shouldn't underestimate Malmö, as RedBull Salzburg have seen a few times when they lost to Malmö as favourites or were knocked out in the play-offs. Malmö has become a good middle class team in Europe in recent years and you should not underestimate them from the start.

Nono, definitely not underestimating them. Malmö can certainly achieve a draw at the Rangers and even win a close match on a good day. They do have the quality to do that. On the other hand the Rangers are a strong team at home and I still see this as being a 50:50 one.