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August 11, 2021, 08:26:29 AM
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Yes, yes, Gers out. They did me well in Europa but it wasn't to be this season, maybe the league loss so soon after the Invincibles season took a bite out of their morale.



PSG odds to win UCL have never been better, but City (!) still the favourites?

Hahaha, It's really funny. But now we can’t take the PSG team lightly. They have one of the best players in the world in their team. Ramos is one of the best players in the world in defending. Messi is the dribbling master at the forward, moreover, there is no other player with such great speed as Mbappe. One of the best goalkeepers Donnarumma is in their squad. PSG will be a little ahead of Manchester City in terms of players. But City is in charge of Guardiola. He can turn the game around at any time.

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August 11, 2021, 08:35:13 AM
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Did not watch Dinamo game since I was playing football with my mates but I am really happy they passed and Crvena Zvezda did not. Not that I have anything against Zvezda but there would have been some shit situations with supporters for sure. Better we avoided that and our (Croatian) European coefficient got another boost Smiley

Really surprised about Rangers, I was sure they are winning this. Killed all my tickets but I know they feel much worse than me so not gonna rant here.

Agreed, it was jumpy even against Legia - against Zvezda there would have been chaos. Also - from a football standpoint - Sheriff looks like an easier draw anyway, so good for Dinamo again.
They did not really play well yesterday but neither did Legia - both teams looked really tired throughout the whole 2nd half.

Regarding Rangers - sorry for Stevie. They had everything in their hands but lost concentration for 5 minutes, which was enough for Malmo.

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August 11, 2021, 09:53:31 AM
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Now there are still several teams fighting for 6 more tickets to qualify for the 2021/22 Champions League qualifying round and of course this will be a very difficult journey for these clubs, but what is quite interesting in my opinion this season is the return of one of the teams. big italian league after almost 7 seasons have never played in the highest caste of european football that is ac milan, and in my opinion the return of ac milan to the champions league is a great thing, but of course AC Milan will be a little difficult because it has a very small UEFA coefficient point after a long absence from the Champions League and this causes Ac Milan to be willing to be in pot 4 in the draw later, besides that, it is likely that Ac Milan will get a hell group because of the large number of big clubs occupying Pot 1 to Pot 3.

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August 11, 2021, 09:58:16 AM
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Yes, yes, Gers out. They did me well in Europa but it wasn't to be this season, maybe the league loss so soon after the Invincibles season took a bite out of their morale.



PSG odds to win UCL have never been better, but City (!) still the favourites?

With players like Neymar, Mbappé and the campaign, PSG will definitely be the Champions League favorite, their only problem is that the domestic championship does not allow maintaining a high level of players' motivation due to its weakness.
It is very good that there is always a high level of randomness in the playoffs and that other teams always have the opportunity to beat the money bag  Smiley

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August 11, 2021, 02:12:08 PM
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Hahaha, It's really funny. But now we can’t take the PSG team lightly. They have one of the best players in the world in their team. Ramos is one of the best players in the world in defending. Messi is the dribbling master at the forward, moreover, there is no other player with such great speed as Mbappe. One of the best goalkeepers Donnarumma is in their squad. PSG will be a little ahead of Manchester City in terms of players. But City is in charge of Guardiola. He can turn the game around at any time.

Never have, I always think they'll go far, but fall short -- sort of like City. Slick as you like, bursting with talent, but you question their ability to dig in, and it's hard to be hungrier than the underdogs once you reach the final. Real is probably one of the few teams capable of that feat and that's down to Zidane having his team at his feet.

PSG-City final on the cards? Cept I got Liverpool to win it at almost 9/1 ha ha.

With players like Neymar, Mbappé and the campaign, PSG will definitely be the Champions League favorite, their only problem is that the domestic championship does not allow maintaining a high level of players' motivation due to its weakness.
It is very good that there is always a high level of randomness in the playoffs and that other teams always have the opportunity to beat the money bag  Smiley

No one enjoys it like I do. Almost every 10/1 or more game in UCL is a must-bet for me;)

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August 11, 2021, 04:37:29 PM
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Shakhtar Monaco is definitely the highlight for me, but I would really like to see the French make it through to the group stages.

Rangers were a shock yes, but I think the expectations were too high on them. Remember they've not been in Champions League for so long and the quality of Europa where they played is very different. Full credit to Malmo. Have they ever been in Champions League?

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August 11, 2021, 07:05:34 PM
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I think there is no point to open a new thread for one game but remember the game with the winner of the Champion's League and the winner of the Europa League is ongoing.

Chelsea - Villareal started and 0-0 for now, Chelsea is doing better.

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August 11, 2021, 08:02:21 PM
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I think it would be a good idea to take some bets early for next round of Champions League wualifications, and few of them are away win for Dinamo  against Sheriff Tiraspol, even taking safer option draw-no-bet still pays nice and you will get back your money if match ends as a draw.
Benfica vs PSV will probably be the best match of this qualifications, and this two teams often played in CL competition before.

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August 11, 2021, 09:17:44 PM
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I think there is no point to open a new thread for one game but remember the game with the winner of the Champion's League and the winner of the Europa League is ongoing.

Chelsea - Villareal started and 0-0 for now, Chelsea is doing better.

So far the score is 1-1 and the teams are playing the same... If there is a penalty shootout, I think Chelsea will win! The last 15 minutes left... I'd like to see Villarreal score a goal...
By the way, the odds on one of the teams to win are just cosmic! Cheesy

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August 11, 2021, 09:39:08 PM
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City / PSG / Real Madrid final. I think it will be City vs PSG with PSG winning the match. If PSG do not win the champions league in the next 2 years with Messi, Neymar, Mbappe I think Mbappe will leave and Neymar might follow. Mbappe to Madrid sounds like a good deal for both clubs if PSG do not win the champions league.
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August 11, 2021, 09:56:39 PM
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Chelsea won on penalties. Quite an expected result, Chelsea specializes in penalty shootout wins  Grin I was confident in their victory even after the first hit and miss by Havertz. By the way, I noticed that the rule "who begins a series of penalties that wins" was the work even more tightly than before. I can't even remember when I last saw the opposite, although statistically the team starting the streak has an advantage of about 10%.

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August 12, 2021, 02:34:44 AM
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Hahaha, It's really funny. But now we can’t take the PSG team lightly. They have one of the best players in the world in their team. Ramos is one of the best players in the world in defending. Messi is the dribbling master at the forward, moreover, there is no other player with such great speed as Mbappe. One of the best goalkeepers Donnarumma is in their squad. PSG will be a little ahead of Manchester City in terms of players. But City is in charge of Guardiola. He can turn the game around at any time.

Never have, I always think they'll go far, but fall short -- sort of like City. Slick as you like, bursting with talent, but you question their ability to dig in, and it's hard to be hungrier than the underdogs once you reach the final. Real is probably one of the few teams capable of that feat and that's down to Zidane having his team at his feet.

PSG-City final on the cards? Cept I got Liverpool to win it at almost 9/1 ha ha.

With players like Neymar, Mbappé and the campaign, PSG will definitely be the Champions League favorite, their only problem is that the domestic championship does not allow maintaining a high level of players' motivation due to its weakness.
It is very good that there is always a high level of randomness in the playoffs and that other teams always have the opportunity to beat the money bag  Smiley

No one enjoys it like I do. Almost every 10/1 or more game in UCL is a must-bet for me;)

Indeed, very true comparison between City and PSG, go far and fall short. That is what would be so exciting if indeed both teams would face each other in a Champions League. One thing would be certain even before the game would have started: there'd be much more trauma to come for one of the two! Tongue

But Messi facing Pep and all the superstars in both squads, that would be a final worth every single second of the 90 minutes watching the game. I think that Messi will have one of his stronger seasons of his career in the coming year. Ligue 1 won't motivate him much although he will deliver, but in the CL I can see him go nuts once more as if he had to prove something bigger one more time.

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August 12, 2021, 03:20:04 AM
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Hahaha, It's really funny. But now we can’t take the PSG team lightly. They have one of the best players in the world in their team. Ramos is one of the best players in the world in defending. Messi is the dribbling master at the forward, moreover, there is no other player with such great speed as Mbappe. One of the best goalkeepers Donnarumma is in their squad. PSG will be a little ahead of Manchester City in terms of players. But City is in charge of Guardiola. He can turn the game around at any time.

Never have, I always think they'll go far, but fall short -- sort of like City. Slick as you like, bursting with talent, but you question their ability to dig in, and it's hard to be hungrier than the underdogs once you reach the final. Real is probably one of the few teams capable of that feat and that's down to Zidane having his team at his feet.

PSG-City final on the cards? Cept I got Liverpool to win it at almost 9/1 ha ha.

With players like Neymar, Mbappé and the campaign, PSG will definitely be the Champions League favorite, their only problem is that the domestic championship does not allow maintaining a high level of players' motivation due to its weakness.
It is very good that there is always a high level of randomness in the playoffs and that other teams always have the opportunity to beat the money bag  Smiley

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Indeed, very true comparison between City and PSG, go far and fall short. That is what would be so exciting if indeed both teams would face each other in a Champions League. One thing would be certain even before the game would have started: there'd be much more trauma to come for one of the two! Tongue

But Messi facing Pep and all the superstars in both squads, that would be a final worth every single second of the 90 minutes watching the game. I think that Messi will have one of his stronger seasons of his career in the coming year. Ligue 1 won't motivate him much although he will deliver, but in the CL I can see him go nuts once more as if he had to prove something bigger one more time.

I also would like to add that Poch has a huge task at his hand with this randomly assembled squad, hence I don’t expect PSG to win Champions League because they barely had any time to integrate all player’s. Furthermore while these are superstars, but the bigger superstar bigger their ego, so Poch will have a hard time managing their fragile egos.
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Indeed, very true comparison between City and PSG, go far and fall short. That is what would be so exciting if indeed both teams would face each other in a Champions League. One thing would be certain even before the game would have started: there'd be much more trauma to come for one of the two! Tongue

But Messi facing Pep and all the superstars in both squads, that would be a final worth every single second of the 90 minutes watching the game. I think that Messi will have one of his stronger seasons of his career in the coming year. Ligue 1 won't motivate him much although he will deliver, but in the CL I can see him go nuts once more as if he had to prove something bigger one more time.
I also would like to add that Poch has a huge task at his hand with this randomly assembled squad, hence I don’t expect PSG to win Champions League because they barely had any time to integrate all player’s. Furthermore while these are superstars, but the bigger superstar bigger their ego, so Poch will have a hard time managing their fragile egos.

If we look at Pochettino's career as a coach, before becoming PSG coach, Pochettino has never been the coach of a big team with many star
players. So I agree with you that being PSG coach must be a tough task for Pochettino, because Pochettino must be a firm and authoritative coach,
so that he is respected by the star players at PSG. It is very difficult to control many star players, because star players must have their own ego.
It is very interesting that Pochettino, who has a systematic strategy, has to manage PSG players who are dominated by many star players.
Moreover, we know Icardi and Messi have personal problems, this will be an internal problem in the PSG squad.

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Indeed, very true comparison between City and PSG, go far and fall short. That is what would be so exciting if indeed both teams would face each other in a Champions League. One thing would be certain even before the game would have started: there'd be much more trauma to come for one of the two! Tongue
But Messi facing Pep and all the superstars in both squads, that would be a final worth every single second of the 90 minutes watching the game. I think that Messi will have one of his stronger seasons of his career in the coming year. Ligue 1 won't motivate him much although he will deliver, but in the CL I can see him go nuts once more as if he had to prove something bigger one more time.
I also would like to add that Poch has a huge task at his hand with this randomly assembled squad, hence I don’t expect PSG to win Champions League because they barely had any time to integrate all player’s. Furthermore while these are superstars, but the bigger superstar bigger their ego, so Poch will have a hard time managing their fragile egos.
If we look at Pochettino's career as a coach, before becoming PSG coach, Pochettino has never been the coach of a big team with many star
players. So I agree with you that being PSG coach must be a tough task for Pochettino, because Pochettino must be a firm and authoritative coach,
so that he is respected by the star players at PSG. It is very difficult to control many star players, because star players must have their own ego.
It is very interesting that Pochettino, who has a systematic strategy, has to manage PSG players who are dominated by many star players.
Moreover, we know Icardi and Messi have personal problems, this will be an internal problem in the PSG squad.

Lots of star players on the team, controlling them will be a difficult task for Pochettino. However, Messi is not fierce. He will not have a problem with the coach. Ramos and Mbappe can be a bit difficult to control. Since Mbappe has been at PSG for a few years, maybe his relationship with the coach is good. It will be a bit difficult to control Ramos. Rumor has it that PSG will sell Icardi, if it does, then Messi-Icardi's problem is solved. Moreover, Messi, Neymar, and Mbappe will be in the forward. Icardi will not get too many chances to play with Messi.

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~snip
Moreover, Messi, Neymar, and Mbappe will be in the forward. Icardi will not get too many chances to play with Messi.

and in the end, they will end up not getting CL title this season
they will score many goals during group stage, probably have some 7,8 goals games this season, but when comes to decision making, teams that have tough defense and better tactics will end up better

nevertheless, it is still qualification rounds, so PSG will join later in the competition, but making news due to Messi arrival
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Indeed, very true comparison between City and PSG, go far and fall short. That is what would be so exciting if indeed both teams would face each other in a Champions League. One thing would be certain even before the game would have started: there'd be much more trauma to come for one of the two! Tongue

But Messi facing Pep and all the superstars in both squads, that would be a final worth every single second of the 90 minutes watching the game. I think that Messi will have one of his stronger seasons of his career in the coming year. Ligue 1 won't motivate him much although he will deliver, but in the CL I can see him go nuts once more as if he had to prove something bigger one more time.
I do not think that Messi should prove something to someone, for him at PSG it may take some time before he adapts to a new city, to a new team. He was very depressed when he left Barcelona, this can also affect his psychological state. But he is a professional, so everything should be fine. This season can really be good for him.

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Indeed, very true comparison between City and PSG, go far and fall short. That is what would be so exciting if indeed both teams would face each other in a Champions League. One thing would be certain even before the game would have started: there'd be much more trauma to come for one of the two! Tongue

But Messi facing Pep and all the superstars in both squads, that would be a final worth every single second of the 90 minutes watching the game. I think that Messi will have one of his stronger seasons of his career in the coming year. Ligue 1 won't motivate him much although he will deliver, but in the CL I can see him go nuts once more as if he had to prove something bigger one more time.

The main similarity between City and PSG is that they are moneybags. It's hard for me to imagine what the lineups of these clubs would have been if UEFA hadn't introduced a financial fair play. Although even without this, the composition of PSG and City often resembles the composition of Real from the era of the galacticos.
In the Champions League I will cheer against both of these teams, I don't like moneybags  Cheesy

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But Messi facing Pep and all the superstars in both squads, that would be a final worth every single second of the 90 minutes watching the game. I think that Messi will have one of his stronger seasons of his career in the coming year. Ligue 1 won't motivate him much although he will deliver, but in the CL I can see him go nuts once more as if he had to prove something bigger one more time.

Football spectacle tat will be indeed. If Pep gets his team glued together without strikers and good old Poch finds his way to meld the egos at his disposal I think the match will be huge. But a semifinal match only please, I'd love to see Klopp and Poch go at each other's throats in a final... heavy metal football versus Galactico 2.0!

P.S. Don't forget Europa and Conference league games tonight people;)

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I think there is no point to open a new thread for one game but remember the game with the winner of the Champion's League and the winner of the Europa League is ongoing.

Chelsea - Villareal started and 0-0 for now, Chelsea is doing better.
- Chelsea won the 2021 European Super Cup. The Blues won after beating Villarreal on penalties.
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