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December 08, 2020, 10:23:55 PM
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Lesson learned - just because the favorite team is on 1.37 odds doesn't mean they're going to win. <...>
been there done that  Wink rookie mistakes tho...hopefully you've learned to avoid those no-value lines, next step will be to start searching for the good value lines at 1.5x or higher. I usually look for 1.70 or higher, if i go for anything lower is prolly cos it's the best line i could find in the event i'm betting on

Even if it's meaningless game, it's still very painful to lose 3:0 at home.
both teams used their best starting XI available, looks to me like the managers and the players didn't think it was a meaningless match

Now Barca finished 2nd in the group and could face Bayern, Liverpool or Man City...oh boy  Roll Eyes

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December 08, 2020, 10:37:48 PM
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Manchester United lost to Leipzig, which means they are out of the champions league again and will be moving to play Europa league. Am very disappointed in the team for wasting their chance to book a slot in the quarters.

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December 08, 2020, 11:00:38 PM
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both teams used their best starting XI available, looks to me like the managers and the players didn't think it was a meaningless match

Now Barca finished 2nd in the group and could face Bayern, Liverpool or Man City...oh boy  Roll Eyes

Given the fact that Barcelona would qualify eventhough if They lose, it seems some players wasnt that motivated in the game though despite the managers were choosing to go with his best Starting Squad.

I wasnt that surprised either, Barcelona is kinda bad in LaLiga right now so yeah this could the best that They could do right now

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True, I'd stick with 1.7-2.4 odds because that is probably the best value.

MU are lost. Chelsea,

Manchester United probably wasnt expecting that early goals. Manchester United won in the first round by 5 goals and that probably would be the reason why Ole choose to go with silly lineups like that. Both Luke Shaw and Telles are on the field , How silly can this be. The team will be paying for the price because of this silly lineups because I dont think Manchester United would qualify for the next round even if PSG lose to Basaksehir

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December 08, 2020, 11:02:21 PM
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Manchester United lost to Leipzig, which means they are out of the champions league again and will be moving to play Europa league. Am very disappointed in the team for wasting their chance to book a slot in the quarters.

Manchester United's game is very inconsistent, so it's only natural that Leipzig can beat them. Which surprised me, the appearance of
Peter Gulacsi, who played admirably by making 7 saves, in my opinion it is suitable as a man of the match in that match. Then Angelino
also contributed to Leipzig's victory by providing one goal and one assist. It is very regrettable for a team as big as Manchester United to
leave the Champions League, but this is the fact that Leipzig and PSG deserve to qualify for the next round.

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December 08, 2020, 11:08:44 PM
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So is Juventus not so bad after all or is Barca a really trash team right now?

Impressive game from us and we achieved what was almost impossible before the game, the 1st spot in the group and statistically a better draw for the final stage.

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December 08, 2020, 11:08:52 PM
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Now Barca finished 2nd in the group and could face Bayern, Liverpool or Man City...oh boy  Roll Eyes
It will be lucky if Barcelona meets Man. City in the next stage. But it can be a nightmare if they should face Bayern or Liverpool. So, I think Barcelona still has a chance to survive and continue to the next stage. If they against Man City, I assume Barcelona has a bigger chance to win. Let's hope that Barcelona won't get a nightmare on the stage.  Cheesy

So is Juventus not so bad after all or is Barca a really trash team right now?
Yeah, Juventus is surely better than Barcelona.
Juventus has much better players, while Barcelona has a crisis in quality players. Plus, experiencing a crisis in mentality to win. Nowadays isn't a good time for Barcelona to face a big team like Juventus.

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December 08, 2020, 11:27:21 PM
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Manchester United in the Champions League this season is like a beautiful movie, with a strong start and its ending is weak. People forget the scenario and the details and remember the conclusion.
Missed opportunities at decisive moments and falling in front of Turkish team was the turning point that will be costing expensively. Migeslmann's Leipzig team exposed the tactical weaknesses in OGS so from now on he will be judged for his performance in the league and if he succeed he will be allowed to repair his defense if not the Axe will be waiting for him while Pochettinho will be looking for a house in Manchester.
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December 08, 2020, 11:32:21 PM
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Man Utd ending wasn't quite bad as they was really close to score for 3:3
PSG - Baseksehir will be finished tomorrow

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December 08, 2020, 11:52:34 PM
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For sure the most interesting games are in the PSG group with 3 teams at 9 points, who will pass? My bet is obvious for PSG and United with Leipzig in Europa League...

PSG can't fail the access to the final stage, United is more likely but I don't think it will happen.

Forgot to comment on it...
I watched the game with Juventus of course but in the end, it happened.

Again Manchester United failed the 1st yearly objective, they need to refound everything they can continue in this path.



Champions bring to much money and a team can't fail to pass the group stage especially now with COVID.

Passing or not passion the group stage is a 30 million in the difference in the balance (it should be more but now we have no people at the stadium)

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December 09, 2020, 12:17:39 AM
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I was very pleased that the PSG players left the pitch together with those of Basaksehir, what happened today has no excuse, I read in an Italian newspaper that that idiom in Romanian is not offensive, but this is an international referee and cannot afford these things.
For the other games, I never thought that Juventus could humiliate Barcelona or that Manchester United could leave the Champions League.
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December 09, 2020, 12:26:06 AM
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Manchester United tried a comeback after 80th minute but it wasn't enough for them. Now they hope for Paris Saint-Germain to fail tomorrow.
Paris Saint-Germain - Başakşehir game will be played tomorrow.

The shocking result of the night was Barcelona loss, they finished group in 2nd place because of that third goal. We'll see how this play a role in next stage draw. Sometimes you see better teams come from 2nd place, it's all about draw luck.

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Manchester United tried a comeback after 80th minute but it wasn't enough for them. Now they hope for Paris Saint-Germain to fail tomorrow.
Paris Saint-Germain - Başakşehir game will be played tomorrow.

The shocking result of the night was Barcelona loss, they finished group in 2nd place because of that third goal. We'll see how this play a role in next stage draw. Sometimes you see better teams come from 2nd place, it's all about draw luck.

Yeah another bad night for Barcelona, game/result versus Juventus. Juventus played great and just indeed deserve the win, however, I felt one of those penalties for Juventus was a bit harsh.

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December 09, 2020, 01:52:28 AM
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Manchester United tried a comeback after 80th minute but it wasn't enough for them. Now they hope for Paris Saint-Germain to fail tomorrow.

Afaik head to head stats would the one to be used as tie breaker if points are equal at the end of the group stage . If PSG is to fail tomorrow means that both PSG and MU has 9 points, but PSG is leading head to head by 2-1 and 1-3 means that PSG will stay on 2nd position no matter what is the result of their match against Basaksehir. Correct me if I'm wrong. 





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December 09, 2020, 03:49:24 AM
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Manchester United tried a comeback after 80th minute but it wasn't enough for them. Now they hope for Paris Saint-Germain to fail tomorrow.
Paris Saint-Germain - Başakşehir game will be played tomorrow.

The shocking result of the night was Barcelona loss, they finished group in 2nd place because of that third goal. We'll see how this play a role in next stage draw. Sometimes you see better teams come from 2nd place, it's all about draw luck.

Yeah bad another night for Barcelona, game/result from Juventus. Juventus played  gratefully and  Just indeed deserved the win, how every, I felt one of those penalties for Juventus was a bit harsh.
Another night Cristiano Ronaldo effect, he was doing what he does, he scored 2 penalty. Meantime, Barcelona in a rebuilding process with great mentors. Let give him some time he has a very young squad. As far as my concern this team ain't doing such bad.
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December 09, 2020, 04:21:43 AM
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Afaik head to head stats would the one to be used as tie breaker if points are equal at the end of the group stage . If PSG is to fail tomorrow means that both PSG and MU has 9 points, but PSG is leading head to head by 2-1 and 1-3 means that PSG will stay on 2nd position no matter what is the result of their match against Basaksehir. Correct me if I'm wrong. 


Yes you are correct. PSG are leading right now with better head to head stats. It was all from the left- wing back Angelino who was heavily involved for Leipzig. Leipzig knew how crucial it was but United thought it too easy and Ole thought it differently and his side got kicked out of CL.

Now looking back at things, United were leading the group but in later stage got thrashed quite badly in last two CL games against PSG and Leipzig.
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December 09, 2020, 04:31:10 AM
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Manchester United tried a comeback after 80th minute but it wasn't enough for them. Now they hope for Paris Saint-Germain to fail tomorrow.
Paris Saint-Germain - Başakşehir game will be played tomorrow.

The shocking result of the night was Barcelona loss, they finished group in 2nd place because of that third goal. We'll see how this play a role in next stage draw. Sometimes you see better teams come from 2nd place, it's all about draw luck.

Yeah bad another night for Barcelona, game/result from Juventus. Juventus played  gratefully and  Just indeed deserved the win, how every, I felt one of those penalties for Juventus was a bit harsh.
Another night Cristiano Ronaldo effect, he was doing what he does, he scored 2 penalty. Meantime, Barcelona in a rebuilding process with great mentors. Let give him some time he has a very young squad. As far as my concern this team ain't doing such bad.

I don’t think that there’s any chance for Manchester United to be back in champions league now, because even if PSG lose they’ll yet be in. Furthermore Ronaldo just can’t stop upsetting Messi can he now, and it’s such a shame that these two are not playing in the same league week after week.

https://i.postimg.cc/ncsDnkZm/DCBB3690-11-E1-4-CEB-AAFA-971684-E9-C64-A.jpg

Sources:

https://www.goal.com/en/news/what-do-manchester-united-need-to-qualify-for-the-champions/145oicn23i851mtwbymemqgfa

https://www.sportskeeda.com/football/news-twitter-explodes-juventus-cristiano-ronaldo-destroy-barcelona-3-0
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December 09, 2020, 04:42:28 AM
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Still no report that the psg abandoned match will get resumed , it is been an hour, no updates.

Edit : the match will be resumed tomorrow 18.55 , source tancredi palmeri bein sports
At half time this is what was shown on the scoreboard at the time of the match being interrupted with no clear explanation of what was going to happen next:

It was shown as suspended but I guess they decided to resume it at a later date until everything was sorted out first.
From what I understood is if the Başakşehir match didn't get resumed then Manchester Utd would still be able to stay in only if they beat Paris St.Germain. Embarrassed
They have been offered to replace this romanian referee so the match can continue but basaksehir refused and want all the official referee to be replaced entirely, psg agree and then decided the match to be resumed later in the next day.
There is no chance for manchester united indeed just like many people said above for whatever the result in this match as they have letting the chance go by losing to leipzig, no way back , united to europa league and sayonara ole , he will get sacked soon.
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December 09, 2020, 05:19:22 AM
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Yeah bad another night for Barcelona, game/result from Juventus. Juventus played  gratefully and  Just indeed deserved the win, how every, I felt one of those penalties for Juventus was a bit harsh.
Despite losing, Barcelona will still qualify for the next round. This is Barcelona's first defeat in the group. I hope Barcelona can make more improvement after this, they are still a big team.

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December 09, 2020, 05:23:33 AM
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Manchester United tried a comeback after 80th minute but it wasn't enough for them. Now they hope for Paris Saint-Germain to fail tomorrow.

Afaik head to head stats would the one to be used as tie breaker if points are equal at the end of the group stage . If PSG is to fail tomorrow means that both PSG and MU has 9 points, but PSG is leading head to head by 2-1 and 1-3 means that PSG will stay on 2nd position no matter what is the result of their match against Basaksehir. Correct me if I'm wrong. 

PSG would take their chances in today's match they wouldn't take anything for granted irrespective of their position on the table although the odd favors them based on head to head rule and their chances of qualifying to the next round is very bright, they are not on any pressure they would have done their permutations. MU flopped in yesterday's match I was them to play well  expecting an outright win from them having improved and in-form lately in premier league however they disappointed their teeming fans.

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December 09, 2020, 05:54:31 AM
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Despite losing, Barcelona will still qualify for the next round. This is Barcelona's first defeat in the group. I hope Barcelona can make more improvement after this, they are still a big team.
Another bad match for Barcelona and even they managed to go next for Round-16, I have no belief that they will manage to go further than quarter round this season in Champions Leauge. They are weak, lots of problems with all of their system, defensive, midfield and attacking players. Messi looks very satisfied with this final season in Nou Camp. I don't say his bad rates so far is because of his burofax, and his intention to leave, it is the problems from Barca system and not only from Messi.

Koeman was right when he criticised the attitude of Barca player last week. 'I can handle the criticism. We cannot become obsessed by it': Ronald Koeman urges Barcelona stars to keep their heads amid financial storm and player rows engulfing the club

Barca might need a few seasons to come back with their full strength and competivity.

Looks good by the competition between Messi and Ronaldo and their good relationship beyond the field and matches.
I never saw Messi as a rival, Ronaldo says after Juventus win over Barcelona

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