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Author Topic: ⚽UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread -- 2021/22 winner - Real Madrid!  (Read 129359 times)
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November 25, 2021, 05:42:55 AM
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The easiest scenario for Milan to qualify to the next stage is by winning against Liverpool while Porto vs Atletico ended with a draw. In case both Milan and Atletico win the last match, the goal difference is the one to decide which team will go through because head to head between Milan and Atletico is the same/equal (1 win and 2 goals). If the goal difference will be the same after the last match, the number of given cards will be the last factor. The team with less cards will go through.
Liverpool are a tough team to beat so far in the Champions League and Liverpool are still unbeaten in the last 5 match they played in the group stages so Milan will be in a tough situation to qualify for the next round. Milan are very doubtful of qualifying by winning their last game vs Liverpool, so I think only a miracle can get them to appear in the round of 16 regardless of what scenario will help them at that time.

In the other group Inter and Juventus have managed to secure a ticket to the last 16 while Milan and Atalanta still have to work hard to do so until the last match. In my opinion, Atletico Madrid deserve to qualify for the next round compared to Milan, which until now is very difficult to get points in the last 5 match. But everything is still possible for the fans of each team to hope.

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November 25, 2021, 05:47:05 AM
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Last match become the key for AC Milan, Porto and Atletico Madrid qualify to the next stage, third club have the same chance who will be qualify exactly for AC Milan have bigger chance than Porto or Atletico Madrid, but last match Milan should defeat Liverpool and win what ever score to get second position, but if failed and other match Porto playing draw or win from Atletico Madrid make him as second position under Liverpool.
In my opinion, AC Milan's chances are very small, and this is what's not pleasant things if the chance are determined by the results of other teams' matches, and especially Liverpool will not just let go of this match even though the results do not change their position, still giving resistance and getting a win in the UCL will definitely remains a target for Klopp.

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November 25, 2021, 05:50:10 AM
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I bet on Ajax's victory. They did not disappoint me. At the end of the first half, Besiktas was leading 1-0. Then I thought maybe I'm going to lose the bet. But Ajax came back brilliantly in the second half. Sabastien Haller scored twice in the second half and Ajax won the match 2-1. Besiktas didn't get a chance to attack much in the second half.

Players showing them capabilities in game's like this, watched Haller closely and enjoyed he's game.
It's good to see him scoring goals, feels like gold.. having scored two goals yesterday coming from behind.

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November 25, 2021, 05:50:54 AM
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Barcelona could not score a goal against Benfica. The match ended in a goalless draw. However, Barcelona played well enough. Barcelona's gameplay was good enough. Barcelona has played better today than at least in the last few matches. In the last match in the champions league, they will play against the strong Bayern Munich. And it's Bayern Munich's home match. Hopefully we can see the stable gameplay of Barcelona against Bayern.
I doubt that, no miracle for Barcelona that came quickly, in fact Xavi still needs time to get back to Barcelona's best form. Although Bayern Munich has certainly qualified, but that will not make it lower the quality of their game play and it was proven by the result against Kyiv yesterday, Bayern Munich still won there. So, playing at home against Barcelona, I believe their prestige remains high so it is difficult for Barcelona to get points in their last match.

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November 25, 2021, 06:22:40 AM
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Paris SG took the lead with Mbappe but lost to Manchester City. Manchester City won 2-1.  Manchester City was the better player. Milan, on the other hand, managed to beat Atletico Madrid 1-0. This win could send Milan to the Europa League. Ajax beat Beşiktaş 2-1. They did 5/5w. Sporting Lisbon, on the other hand, defeated Borussia Dortmund 2-1 and placed second in the group.

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November 25, 2021, 06:36:16 AM
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It's shocking how bad Pochetino has become since leaving Tottenham. Is he the same man who Manutd fans are clamoring for to take Ole's place? What a pitiful team with no ambition.
Pochetino may not just be bad, the fact is Pep is very good tactically he makes some other coaches look as though they are not doing enough. With a squad like PSG though, before the start of the UCL, you would have easily imagined that sorry is the name of any team that meets them, But we are seeing a fairly regular team in play with almost no difference from other teams with names not as big as those in PSG. I am really wondering if Pochetino cannot do well with "Messi, Mbappe & Neymar, alongside some other big names" in PSG, how will he fair with CR7 and the likes of Pogba in Manchester United if he joins them?
Man City won against PSG because of their team work, the host played as a team with a well coordinated attack, worked harder and won, PSG rely on their individual talents, it has nothing to do with the manager (pochetino) irrespective of whoever coach them, PSG game plan was to create space for Mbappe a pacy player to score goals, assited by either Neymar or Messi, however their game plan didn't work kudos to Guordiola tactical prowess in curtailing PSG game plans, it very obvious Man City was the better side and deserve to win.

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November 25, 2021, 06:57:34 AM
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Paris SG took the lead with Mbappe but lost to Manchester City. Manchester City won 2-1.  Manchester City was the better player. Milan, on the other hand, managed to beat Atletico Madrid 1-0. This win could send Milan to the Europa League. Ajax beat Beşiktaş 2-1. They did 5/5w. Sporting Lisbon, on the other hand, defeated Borussia Dortmund 2-1 and placed second in the group.
Manchester City was good but you know PSG were more defensive minded they only tried to attack on the counter attack. Man City was balanced on the other hand, they attacked at the right time and defended at the right time. Man city played as a team and PSG was very bad at it. Need some real tactics against teams like Man city, Liverpool, Chelsea Bayern. High press put PSG under pressure and the whole game PSG was stuck with a single plan. Pochettino really need to think of getting the best out of his players with tactical changes when required. Mbappe, Neymar, Messi strolls on the pitch most of the time.They don't even press. Managing egos, is another coaching skill on its own.
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November 25, 2021, 07:12:43 AM
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I bet on Ajax's victory. They did not disappoint me. At the end of the first half, Besiktas was leading 1-0. Then I thought maybe I'm going to lose the bet. But Ajax came back brilliantly in the second half. Sabastien Haller scored twice in the second half and Ajax won the match 2-1. Besiktas didn't get a chance to attack much in the second half.

Players showing them capabilities in game's like this, watched Haller closely and enjoyed he's game.
It's good to see him scoring goals, feels like gold.. having scored two goals yesterday coming from behind.

Ajax is one of the teams to be reckoned with in the Champions League no wonder when they fall behind they still play aggressively
Players have a good mentality even against strong teams like Chelsea or Liverpool , nice to see ajax go to the next stage with perfect points

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November 25, 2021, 07:26:06 AM
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Just came across this item of news this early morning. Missed it somehow as was watching Liverpool plus listening to a slew of other matches on radio, but in the late minutes of the Atletico-Milan match, something magical happened and the group is now as wide open as it's ever been for the final qualification spot, with everything to decide on final match day. We've progressed a game ago of course, but Simeone will be seething at 3 consecutive losses.

But the scorer of Milan's winner, Junior Messias, has a back story, climbing all the way up from Italy's 5th division to now his debut at 30, only his 3rd appearance for the club, and on his very first game at Champions League and on his very first attempt on goal.

Used to be a fridge delivery guy too!

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Barcelona could not score a goal against Benfica. The match ended in a goalless draw. However, Barcelona played well enough. Barcelona's gameplay was good enough. Barcelona has played better today than at least in the last few matches. In the last match in the champions league, they will play against the strong Bayern Munich. And it's Bayern Munich's home match. Hopefully we can see the stable gameplay of Barcelona against Bayern.

I doubt that barcelona will be able to beat bayern munchen in the last match later, now indeed barcelona  game has improved a bit but the blunt ness of the spearhead makes it difficult for them to score goals, ansu fati and depay have not can be  fully replaced messi role as the target man on the barcelona front line in the match So far, I think that even though Bayern Munich are now quite safe, but I doubt they will relax their attack when playing at home in later

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November 25, 2021, 08:09:41 AM
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Man City won against PSG because of their team work, the host played as a team with a well coordinated attack, worked harder and won, PSG rely on their individual talents, it has nothing to do with the manager (pochetino) irrespective of whoever coach them, PSG game plan was to create space for Mbappe a pacy player to score goals, assited by either Neymar or Messi, however their game plan didn't work kudos to Guordiola tactical prowess in curtailing PSG game plans, it very obvious Man City was the better side and deserve to win.
The manager's role is to determine how a team plays!!! If you want your team to play as a unit, it is your responsibility to implement it in your team, and any player who does not follow instructions will be benched. Only the manager has this authority, so if PSG players lack teamwork, it is the coach's responsibility. Tuchel accomplished a fantastic job at PSG, bringing all of the greatest players to the inaugural UCL final.

Pochentino will continue to struggle with his team if he is unable to communicate with them, and the same will be true if he goes to Manutd.

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November 25, 2021, 08:21:51 AM
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Milan really does have a million lives - a goal in the 87th minute scored by a 30-year old guy who played semi-professionally until a few years ago - a classic Italian football story.
They were better than Atletico though, the last group games will be really fun to watch. Liverpool will rotate again and all remaining teams have a chance to qualify.

I'm most disappointed with Borussia, I expected them to easily qualify from their group.

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Let's take a look at the other matches played last night. Liverpool beat Porto 2-0. Leipzig beat Club Brugge 5-0. We can say that the Sheriff's dream ends here because they lost 3-0 to Real Madrid. However, they will continue their way in the Europa League. The excitement will continue in some groups until the final matches. While Bayern has secured the lead, the struggle for second place between Barça and Benfica will continue. Group G is a mess. There is a possibility that all 4 teams will be eliminated from the group.

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November 25, 2021, 08:39:20 AM
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Honestly, I like the performance of the English teams so far. All English teams toping their respective groups. I wont be surprised if we see two of them in the final again. Firstly it was Liverpool that I was afraid they wont make it out from their group as it was ''Group of death''.. Now they have slaughtered the competition. 5 wins out of 5 games and already ten points clear of Porto with just a match to play which is Ac Milan in San Siro. Manchester United and Manchester City and Chelsea also stumped up a beautiful performance too. So far this season champions league has been all about English team upping their stakes on the grandest stage of all.
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November 25, 2021, 08:46:06 AM
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Let's take a look at the other matches played last night. Liverpool beat Porto 2-0. Leipzig beat Club Brugge 5-0. We can say that the Sheriff's dream ends here because they lost 3-0 to Real Madrid. However, they will continue their way in the Europa League. The excitement will continue in some groups until the final matches. While Bayern has secured the lead, the struggle for second place between Barça and Benfica will continue. Group G is a mess. There is a possibility that all 4 teams will be eliminated from the group.
There is no favorite team in Group G because all the teams there have capacities or qualities that are not much different, so it's not surprising that four teams in Group G still have a chance to qualify and that is something interesting. About Sheriff Tiraspol I've said it before and really believe the standings will be like that and it's proven now, it's interesting to see what the dark horse team in this tournament will be like they will make another surprise later.

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November 25, 2021, 09:03:21 AM
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It's shocking how bad Pochetino has become since leaving Tottenham. Is he the same man who Manutd fans are clamoring for to take Ole's place? What a pitiful team with no ambition.
Pochetino may not just be bad, the fact is Pep is very good tactically he makes some other coaches look as though they are not doing enough. With a squad like PSG though, before the start of the UCL, you would have easily imagined that sorry is the name of any team that meets them, But we are seeing a fairly regular team in play with almost no difference from other teams with names not as big as those in PSG. I am really wondering if Pochetino cannot do well with "Messi, Mbappe & Neymar, alongside some other big names" in PSG, how will he fair with CR7 and the likes of Pogba in Manchester United if he joins them?
Nowadays football is not about individual work but about team work because literally their front three trio combining of Messi Neymar and Kyllian Mbappe is more superb than city front three but despite that city took control of the game and should have been 2-0 up in the first half. It is very hard for a Coach to be able to manage egos, is another coaching skill on its own. These trident strolls on the pitch most of the time and cut short that defensive cover from the attackers. In my oppinion, Pochettino sets out his tactics and tells them how to play. But Neymar and Mbappe ends up playing their way. Controlling star players at this level is not an easy role.
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November 25, 2021, 09:17:34 AM
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I bet on Ajax's victory. They did not disappoint me. At the end of the first half, Besiktas was leading 1-0. Then I thought maybe I'm going to lose the bet. But Ajax came back brilliantly in the second half. Sabastien Haller scored twice in the second half and Ajax won the match 2-1. Besiktas didn't get a chance to attack much in the second half.
Besiktas never had a single point ever since the state of match at the group stage, Ajax have more ULC experience than Besiktas also. I also predicted the match to be won by Ajax. S. Haller is good, he scored the 2 goals for Ajax.

Barcelona could not score a goal against Benfica. The match ended in a goalless draw. However, Barcelona played well enough.
It is very bad, I was expecting Benfica to win Barcelona again, but yesterday surprised me, though it is a home match for Barcelona. But about playing well, it is no no for Barcelona, the club was never like this until Messi left. Hope the club will get back strong on track.



If Barcelona is not careful, the club will not qualify for round of 16. Likely Bayern will win Barcelona again in the next match which is the final match in the group stage, Benfica is playing with Dynamo Kyiv which Benfica have more chance to win. If it the result is like this or if Barcelona draw with Bayern with Benfica win Dynamo Kyiv, Benfica will qualify for round of 16 instead instead of Barcelona.

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November 25, 2021, 09:21:09 AM
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5 wins out of 5 for Klopp’s mighty red men. Our group was billed as the group of death when the draw was made with opponents of the quality of Atletico, Porto & Milan. I’m surprised but very happy to have won the group so easily. Hope we don’t draw PSG in the next round though.

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I'm so concerned about this Paris Saint German situation. Because Pochettino is not in control of his front three, Neymar Messi and Mbappe. The club football manager Leonardo seems to be in control. And it states the club is badly run. Get a good director of football and give your gaffer the freedom. Because No manager will ever win any European title. Emery and Tuchel left PSG and won some European trophies the following season. That states how bad it is. Even Pep won't last, I don't think Zidane will love to be controlled and that's why they have fall out with managers easily. Pochettino is not allowed to be Pochettino. Pochettino's system entails a front line pressure with the forwards narrowing together allowing the fullbacks to provide width. But the forward line provides zero press and that makes the fullback suffer.
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November 25, 2021, 10:25:48 AM
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It's shocking how bad Pochetino has become since leaving Tottenham. Is he the same man who Manutd fans are clamoring for to take Ole's place? What a pitiful team with no ambition.
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Nowadays football is not about individual work but about team work because literally their front three trio combining of Messi Neymar and Kyllian Mbappe is more superb than city front three but despite that city took control of the game and should have been 2-0 up in the first half. It is very hard for a Coach to be able to manage egos, is another coaching skill on its own. These trident strolls on the pitch most of the time and cut short that defensive cover from the attackers. In my oppinion, Pochettino sets out his tactics and tells them how to play. But Neymar and Mbappe ends up playing their way. Controlling star players at this level is not an easy role.
He is not a disciplined coach, and no player is more important than the manager. This is the same team that Tuchel bent to his own style of play. Did you know that C.Ronaldo and Ranous were branched at Real Madrid at one point under Mourinho? You have the right to branch such a player till they obey instructions if they are not playing. Real Madrid, Barcelona, Inter Milan, and AC Milan all had larger squads than PSG, but they never relied on individual brilliance and instead played as a team

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