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June 29, 2020, 07:13:28 PM
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If you ask players such as Virat Kohli and MS Dhoni, then I am sure that they would prefer the shorter format instead of the more traditional varieties. Cricket is a career, just like any other. The players would chose the format which takes the least effort and pays the most.
I do not remember any remarkable performance by MS Dhoni in Test cricket but he is the best in the shorter format and hence i would not doubt if he likes the shorter format, since there are more formats and you could get selected in the team in a specific format if you are performing consistently and many countries have different teams for Test, ODI and T20 and the players do not select which format they play but according to the performance they get selected.
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Lol, look at that! Sri Lankan former sport minister Mahindananda Aluthgamage smoking some fine weed nowadays. He's basically blaming sri lankan team that they fixed the match.

‘We sold the World Cup final to India’: Sri Lankan minister’s huge match-fixing accusation
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“I tell you today that we sold the 2011 World Cup finals,” Aluthgamage told Sirasa TV. “Even when I was sports minister I believed this.” Aluthgamage, sports minister from 2010 to 2015 and now state minister for renewable energy and power, said he “did not want to disclose” the plot at the time.

“In 2011, we were to win, but we sold the match. I feel I can talk about it now. I am not connecting players, but some sections were involved,” he said.


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Sri Lanka starting a investigation on "Sold the World Cup" allegation raised by former sport minister. Legendary batsman Aravinda de Silva is called up by the authorities and he's is meeting them today, he was chief selector back then. 

This headline tho... Fox print news at best.  Grin
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June 30, 2020, 10:00:23 AM
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This is really stupid. I do not think the match was sold or anything. India was the best team at that time and they played like a champ. All this shit talking has no means. I see no reason to discuss this issue by Srilankan board even.
Anyway, it would be fun to see India's reaction. Who was the chairman if ICC back then, by the way?

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June 30, 2020, 10:51:31 AM
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Follow up news

Sri Lanka starting a investigation on "Sold the World Cup" allegation raised by former sport minister. Legendary batsman Aravinda de Silva is called up by the authorities and he's is meeting them today, he was chief selector back then.  

This headline tho... Fox print news at best.  Grin
India’s World Cup glory under criminal investigation over Sri Lanka fixing allegations

Now that is one big sarcastic headline, "India's Worldcup glory". I assume after the investigation is over and if Srilankan players are found guilty( which I doubt) ICC will take back the World cup honor and trophy from India.

9 years ago this match was played, why it was not investigated at that time of why these gentelmens were quite at that time? They need to investigate the current situation not the past.


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June 30, 2020, 12:54:18 PM
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^^^ Sachin is no longer active in the international scene, and therefore I would argue that we should rather listen to the current players. If you ask players such as Virat Kohli and MS Dhoni, then I am sure that they would prefer the shorter format instead of the more traditional varieties. Cricket is a career, just like any other. The players would chose the format which takes the least effort and pays the most. Can you point me to any article where either Kohli or any of the other regular players say that they would prefer test matches over T20 (or IPL)?
Right now if we have voting system for format then surely we will have nearly 75% to 80% players those like Twenty/20 and never go for test because this is more entertaining and profitable for them so just because of this ICC is not going to do any thing which create more issue for them right now its good all three formats doing ok and we are enjoying with this all.

I have seen a lot of people complaining that test cricket is not being given any importance nowadays. I would strongly disagree. You can check the calendar from teams such as England and Australia. On average, they play 10 to 15 test matches per year. That is 50 to 75 days of test cricket, or more specifically 4,500 to 6,750 overs of test cricket per year. Comparing to this, the number of days/overs spent for ODI/T20 formats are much lower.
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Sri Lanka starting a investigation on "Sold the World Cup" allegation raised by former sport minister. Legendary batsman Aravinda de Silva is called up by the authorities and he's is meeting them today, he was chief selector back then. 
It is a really great news, there is a cancerous movement that is going on where you can accuse someone and then get away with it and there will be a shadow of doubt on the minds of people because a minister said something because he might know something the rest of the world does not know and by opening an investigation this idiotic culture of accusing anyone without solid proof will be put to rest and if someone wants to accuse someone for popularity sake then they will think twice if there is a backlash for the lies.
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It is a really great news, there is a cancerous movement that is going on where you can accuse someone and then get away with it and there will be a shadow of doubt on the minds of people because a minister said something because he might know something the rest of the world does not know and by opening an investigation this idiotic culture of accusing anyone without solid proof will be put to rest and if someone wants to accuse someone for popularity sake then they will think twice if there is a backlash for the lies.

Sadly, nothing is going to happen. Here in India, the liberal media brigade (Barkha Dutt, Rajdeep Sardesai, Shekhar Gupta, Siddharth Varadarajan.etc) have been convicted multiple times for publishing fake news. But the maximum punishment given by the court is public apology. So these guys would publish a two line apology in their media, and then return publishing even more fake news. I just hope that things are different in Sri Lanka.
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July 01, 2020, 01:48:06 PM
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Sri Lanka starting a investigation on "Sold the World Cup" allegation raised by former sport minister. Legendary batsman Aravinda de Silva is called up by the authorities and he's is meeting them today, he was chief selector back then. 
This is hilarious. Sri Lanka and Bangladesh sports ministers usually cry over losses based on what I have observed, but I never expected the Sri Lankan to launch an investigation into this after almost a decade as I mentioned in one of my previous posts.

You can check the calendar from teams such as England and Australia. On average, they play 10 to 15 test matches per year. That is 50 to 75 days of test cricket, or more specifically 4,500 to 6,750 overs of test cricket per year. Comparing to this, the number of days/overs spent for ODI/T20 formats are much lower.
I disagree. Quantity does not automatically imply quality. Tests and ODIs have their own niche, but T20 cricket is way more popular in comparison due to the number of viewers, net revenue etc.

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Sadly, nothing is going to happen. Here in India, the liberal media brigade (Barkha Dutt, Rajdeep Sardesai, Shekhar Gupta, Siddharth Varadarajan.etc) have been convicted multiple times for publishing fake news. But the maximum punishment given by the court is public apology. So these guys would publish a two line apology in their media, and then return publishing even more fake news. I just hope that things are different in Sri Lanka.
May be these fake media will not get a harsh punished from the court for publishing the lies but their reputation for not bringing out the truth is gone from the public eyes, no idea about the rules and these media personals but i am sure no one would take their words seriously after getting caught lying and then you are just a joke spreading fake propaganda and sadly all the media will have their political favorites all around the world and i am sick seeing all these bullshit.
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July 01, 2020, 03:32:44 PM
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It is a really great news, there is a cancerous movement that is going on where you can accuse someone and then get away with it and there will be a shadow of doubt on the minds of people because a minister said something because he might know something the rest of the world does not know and by opening an investigation this idiotic culture of accusing anyone without solid proof will be put to rest and if someone wants to accuse someone for popularity sake then they will think twice if there is a backlash for the lies.

Sadly, nothing is going to happen. Here in India, the liberal media brigade (Barkha Dutt, Rajdeep Sardesai, Shekhar Gupta, Siddharth Varadarajan.etc) have been convicted multiple times for publishing fake news. But the maximum punishment given by the court is public apology. So these guys would publish a two line apology in their media, and then return publishing even more fake news. I just hope that things are different in Sri Lanka.

Why are you concerned about those journalist in a thread where we discuss about cricket. Whatever it is I would request the moderator to only allow queries related to cricket  and delete those post which are not, please also remove/ ban those who are not talking about cricket.

What exactly led to this discussion I am least bothered. But, we are not discussing anything else but cricket here. If we are unable to do so then we should remove members who divert from topic.

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Why are you concerned about those journalist in a thread where we discuss about cricket. Whatever it is I would request the moderator to only allow queries related to cricket  and delete those post which are not, please also remove/ ban those who are not talking about cricket.
You are not talking about cricket either here in this thread yet complaining about banning who are not talking about it Roll Eyes.

What exactly led to this discussion I am least bothered. But, we are not discussing anything else but cricket here. If we are unable to do so then we should remove members who divert from topic.
If you accuse something you need to understand what is going on rather than throwing around naive rhetorics.
Since there is not much going around cricket and i think it started regarding the investigation around the accusation in SL.
  
Lets not bring the drama which is going around in the forum in sports and gambling section. If you think something is inappropriate and needs to be deleted feel free to report those contents.
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Sri Lanka starting a investigation on "Sold the World Cup" allegation raised by former sport minister. Legendary batsman Aravinda de Silva is called up by the authorities and he's is meeting them today, he was chief selector back then. 
This is hilarious. Sri Lanka and Bangladesh sports ministers usually cry over losses based on what I have observed, but I never expected the Sri Lankan to launch an investigation into this after almost a decade as I mentioned in one of my previous posts.
Accusation directly pointing fingers at Sri lankan's selection committee or indirectly senior players like Murlitharan, Jayawardene, Malinga, Dilshan and more importantly Captaincy of Sangakkara, not Indian team.

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July 02, 2020, 11:52:11 AM
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Accusation directly pointing fingers at Sri lankan's selection committee or indirectly senior players like Murlitharan, Jayawardene, Malinga, Dilshan and more importantly Captaincy of Sangakkara, not Indian team.

Grab a popcorn and let's see what happens.
I cannot believe that these idiots would blame such legends who retired now. This is absolute stupidity.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/29392906/sangakkara-jayawardene-called-investigation-2011-world-cup-final%3fplatform=amp

The Sri Lankan government should have focused on developing the current team and helping them improve instead of playing these useless gimmicks. On top of all this, they chose this point when the world is reeling from COVID. Absolute stupidity indeed.

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July 02, 2020, 02:07:09 PM
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Accusation directly pointing fingers at Sri lankan's selection committee or indirectly senior players like Murlitharan, Jayawardene, Malinga, Dilshan and more importantly Captaincy of Sangakkara, not Indian team.

Grab a popcorn and let's see what happens.
The media will run with it as if something serious have taken place even though they clearly knows that there is nothing to point fingers at these players nor the ICC anti corruption unit is investigating the claims made by the politician to get some mileage. What will happen now is the media will drag many names and they will have a talking point for a week and then move on to other subjects. 
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Accusation directly pointing fingers at Sri lankan's selection committee or indirectly senior players like Murlitharan, Jayawardene, Malinga, Dilshan and more importantly Captaincy of Sangakkara, not Indian team.

Grab a popcorn and let's see what happens.
The media will run with it as if something serious have taken place even though they clearly knows that there is nothing to point fingers at these players nor the ICC anti corruption unit is investigating the claims made by the politician to get some mileage. What will happen now is the media will drag many names and they will have a talking point for a week and then move on to other subjects. 
Now this is real serious matter in Sri Lanka as today I was watching news channel they have few live reports police call 2011 Chief Selector Arvinda DeSilva and investigated for 6 hours then they call Upal Tharanga and investigated for nearly 2 hours next call is for Jai Wardanai and Kumar Sangakara many other players and local authorties calling this is rediculas but now police in action and they will bring someone as main suspect and end this all in next few days.
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I heard that the Samagi Jana Balawegaya (SJB) staged a protest to support the players. It is just ridiculous. Yesterday, two of the legendary players were interrogated (Kumar Sangakkara and Mahela Jayawardene). These players are widely respected even outside Sri Lanka. Tarnishing their reputation, and that too based on some wild allegation is tragic, to say the least.

And as expected, the politicians are picking sides. Sajith Premadasa just tweeted against the SLC. I would just request these politicians not to make scapegoats out of cricket players, just for their own political benefit.
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^^ Holy cow!! read some reports that they interrogated players for around 5-10 hours or something..

If there is some truth in all allegation then former sport minister should follow Sanga advice and approach the ICC anti corruption unit, call out all names or stop bitching around..
https://twitter.com/MahelaJay/status/1273518778941411328

https://twitter.com/KumarSanga2/status/1273578234718957568

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July 03, 2020, 07:42:29 AM
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^^ Holy cow!! read some reports that they interrogated players for around 5-10 hours or something..

If there is some truth in all allegation then former sport minister should follow Sanga advice and approach the ICC anti corruption unit, call out all names or stop bitching around..
https://twitter.com/MahelaJay/status/1273518778941411328

https://twitter.com/KumarSanga2/status/1273578234718957568


As Mahela mentioned it is plain simple politics and I am sure nothing further will happen. This investigation will only tarnish the reputation of legendary players. These how you get the attention of the whole nation only for your political ambition.

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Lol

That was quick, everything is over with in 2 days. Poor Mahindananda Aluthgamage must be hiding his face now for being a dick.

Ah i forget he's politician so no guilt or anything.. lol Grin
Sri Lanka police call-off 2011 World Cup final match-fixing probe over lack of evidence

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The Sri Lankan police on Friday (July 3) dropped the match-fixing investigation regarding the 2011 World Cup final after they failed to find any concrete evidence of Sri Lankan players letting India win as per latest reports.

Former skipper Kumar Sangakkara, ex-chief selector Aravinda de Silva and a couple of others were interrogated this week over suspicions that have dogged the match for years.

"We are satisfied with their explanation," a top police official told AFP.

"The inquiry is now closed." "They had reasonable explanations about the changes that were made to the final squad," the officer added.

"We found no evidence of any wrongdoing."

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July 03, 2020, 12:35:17 PM
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As Mahela mentioned it is plain simple politics and I am sure nothing further will happen. This investigation will only tarnish the reputation of legendary players. These how you get the attention of the whole nation only for your political ambition.

I would disagree with the second sentence. It is not the investigation, but unsubstantiated rumors which are going to tarnish the reputation of the players. An investigation, if conducted properly can undo any damage which was brought as a result of these rumors. And this is what happened now. The police department has clarified that there is no evidence to substantiate any of the wild allegations.

That said, I am afraid that the damage is already done. Kumar Sangakkara was being talked about as one of the potential candidates to replace Shashank Manohar. But now, I don't think that he'll jump in to the fray.
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