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[Vishnu.Reang]

I’m very disappointed that Ireland did not win yesterday’s game because they truly deserved to win it, and earn those points which would help them qualify for the 2023 World Cup. Also I’m waiting to see which other teams will play under this new format which is launched by the ICC, and lastly I’m excited to find out which teams will qualify for the 2023 World Cup.

Source:

https://www.firstpost.com/firstcricket/sports-news/icc-launches-new-odi-super-league-to-determine-qualifiers-for-2023-world-cup-to-be-held-in-india-8644471.html

This time, they have a proper qualifying format, unlike the sham they had for the 2019 CWC. Out of the 13 teams taking part in the ODI Super League, only 8 teams will be getting the automatic qualification for the 2023 CWC. If you remember, the qualification process for the 2019 Cricket World Cup was very unfair for the associate teams. But still, I would say that we can't call this tournament as a World Cup, if just 10 teams are taking part.

[n0ne]

Ireland managed to play their 50 overs and did well to cross 200 runs and were better than the 1st match. England managed to get it quickly in 32.3 overs the target of 213, but in this process lost 6 wickets. But finally they are leading the series by 2-0. Let us see what happens in the final ODI match.

At one point, England was struggling at 141/6 and still required another 70 plus runs with just 4 wickets in hand. But the Irish bowlers failed to pick quick wickets, and as a result they lost the match. This was a golden opportunity for Ireland to grab media headlines, but they wasted it. It was the lower order batsman David Willey who propelled England to victory.

Yes, Ireland broke the starting partnership, and failed to do the same in the last order. The last match seems to be more interesting, Ireland will surely comeback strong. Small mistakes made by the team is the reason for the losing to England. If it bats first, atleast it should score above 280 runs.

[Haunebu]

Their target should not be to win only, but to win with conviction.

Well said. Anyone with a half decent brain could figure out the fact that a team like England actually struggled quite a lot against a team like Ireland. If Willey fell quickly, the result could have swung the other way. Conviction matters.

The last match seems to be more interesting, Ireland will surely comeback strong. Small mistakes made by the team is the reason for the losing to England. If it bats first, atleast it should score above 280 runs.

Ireland is probably low on confidence right now and you cannot expect professional players like Morgan, Roy etc to always fall quickly. This will probably end in a whitewash.

[Sithara007]

Yes, Ireland broke the starting partnership, and failed to do the same in the last order. The last match seems to be more interesting, Ireland will surely comeback strong. Small mistakes made by the team is the reason for the losing to England. If it bats first, atleast it should score above 280 runs.

Ireland doesn't get too many chances to play against the Big 3 teams. They need to make the maximum use out of such opportunities. I believe that this was one of the occasions where they had a realistic chance of causing an upset. England was really struggling after they lost the 6th wicket. But Ireland failed in keeping the pressure on England.

[7788bitcoin]

Ireland is probably low on confidence right now and you cannot expect professional players like Morgan, Roy etc to always fall quickly. This will probably end in a whitewash.

When they played the warm up match, Ireland players were able to put a good score on the board even though they lost the match and when the series started Ireland was finding it difficult to put runs on the board by the top order batsman and the tail end players were able to score some runs to spare them from the embarrassment and a white wash in inevitable.

England was really struggling after they lost the 6th wicket. But Ireland failed in keeping the pressure on England.

If Ireland was able to put some runs on the board then they could trouble them.

[Vishnu.Reang]

If Ireland was able to put some runs on the board then they could trouble them.

They made a total of 200 plus. You can't ask anything more from a team such as Ireland, which always lose their best players to England. The batsmen did what they could, but this time the bowlers failed miserably. Lack of consistency is the problem. Even Josh Little was very expensive during his first spell, before taking three quick wickets to put England in a worrisome position.

[7788bitcoin]

For a change Ireland won the toss and elected to field and it looks like it was a good decision as England lost both the openers cheaply and they are 59 for 3 and if Ireland can put pressure they can pick a couple of wickets that will put the end to the disastrous form by the England side, the surprising fact is that even though they lost wickets they are playing aggressively as Morgan is timing the ball really well.

emmm,  Ireland has some good players but the team is not skilled like England. it is not wise to compare Ireland team to England. England is far better than Ireland. even we can see a battle on T-20 match. but I hope if England's fortunes are not extremely bad then they will easily win the match against Ireland .

Hopefully we will see a battle in the T20 series but if Ireland could restrict England below 250 and then Ireland top order plays well then they might even win this match.

[ene1980]

Ireland only require wickets here to help them to get all out England before 50 overs.

Ireland need to pick wickets and that is not happening now as Eoin Morgan raised to his century and the youngster Tom Banton is giving him good company as he raised to his first half century in his international career and he took the opportunity given and wish to see him score a big ton as well. The odds for England were not good and hence i went with under 359 runs but they way in which these players are batting they will score over 350 runs.

[JSRAW]

Poor Ireland

At one time England was standing at 44/3 and then 216/7 but Irish bowlers still managed to mess everything for their team and its not even England's best team. David Willey Man of the series?

[BitSat19]

Poor Ireland

At one time England was standing at 44/3 and then 216/7 but Irish bowlers still managed to mess everything for their team and its not even England's best team. David Willey Man of the series?

Lack of experience is big problem for Ireland bowlers not able to have some good advantage so they are suffering now batting is doing some good as right now they ahve 44/0 after 8 overs mean today they will give some good fight if someone will able to stand on crease for some long time from Ireland side.

[ene1980]

You will win it because England are 308/9 in 46.3 overs. Curran is batting on 28 runs in 45 balls so does not seems that they would be able to cross 330 as well. Only if they can play full 50 overs then there is chance of crossing 330 seems difficult for now. Ireland will need to get a good start and atleast try to reach as close as possible so that it will be little interesting to watch as well.

I won that easily, once Morgan lost his wicket i knew it will be hard for England to score that much runs but still they someone scored over 328 runs after loosing their 7 wicket for 216 runs. Ireland had the best start chasing the score and they just lost the first wicket for 50 runs and if they can play like this and reach over 200 runs without loosing much wicket at a decent run rate and then if Kevin O'Brien is still in the crease he has enough firepower to chase the score.


@ JSRAW David Willey should be the player of the series as he performed well with the bat and ball. 5 wicket hall in the first match and a batting average of 98 in the series  

[BitSat19]

You will win it because England are 308/9 in 46.3 overs. Curran is batting on 28 runs in 45 balls so does not seems that they would be able to cross 330 as well. Only if they can play full 50 overs then there is chance of crossing 330 seems difficult for now. Ireland will need to get a good start and atleast try to reach as close as possible so that it will be little interesting to watch as well.

I won that easily, once Morgan lost his wicket i knew it will be hard for England to score that much runs but still they someone scored over 328 runs after loosing their 7 wicket for 216 runs. Ireland had the best start chasing the score and they just lost the first wicket for 50 runs and if they can play like this and reach over 200 runs without loosing much wicket at a decent run rate and then if Kevin O'Brien is still in the crease he has enough firepower to chase the score.

K O Brien is still to come and right now Paul Stirling is playing very good inning if they able to stay on for some time then surely today we are going to have some good cricket as now they already lost series but still want to fight for pride they already once chase 327 in Bengluru against England.

[Vishnu.Reang]

Poor Ireland

At one time England was standing at 44/3 and then 216/7 but Irish bowlers still managed to mess everything for their team and its not even England's best team. David Willey Man of the series?

Lack of experience perhaps... Tim Murtagh and Boyd Rankin are no longer representing Ireland, as they are concentrating on county cricket. Only Paul Stirling and Kevin O'Brien are there from the squad that beat England in 2011. There is hardly anything positive for Ireland to take away from this series. I am really worried about their future, once Stirling also retires. BTW, both Craig Young and Curtis Campher showed some promise during this series.

[Indymoney]

Poor Ireland

At one time England was standing at 44/3 and then 216/7 but Irish bowlers still managed to mess everything for their team and its not even England's best team. David Willey Man of the series?

Lack of experience perhaps... Tim Murtagh and Boyd Rankin are no longer representing Ireland, as they are concentrating on county cricket. Only Paul Stirling and Kevin O'Brien are there from the squad that beat England in 2011. There is hardly anything positive for Ireland to take away from this series. I am really worried about their future, once Stirling also retires. BTW, both Craig Young and Curtis Campher showed some promise during this series.

Ireland was good but suddenly they are down and lack of some good expereinced players is also hurting them badly they need some good domestic teams but sadly soccer is priority for youngsters and they have not good money in this game which is also not good for them but today they are doing good hopefully this will bring some more good for them.

[Haunebu]

Poor Ireland

At one time England was standing at 44/3 and then 216/7 but Irish bowlers still managed to mess everything for their team and its not even England's best team. David Willey Man of the series?

It is the Willey curse. The Irish are probably planning to focus on him primarily in the future since he continues to haunt them with both the bat and the ball. He has proved to be a great all-rounder with a bright future.

K O Brien is still to come and right now Paul Stirling is playing very good inning if they able to stay on for some time then surely today we are going to have some good cricket as now they already lost series but still want to fight for pride they already once chase 327 in Bengluru against England.

I don't expect Ireland to stay composed till the end. They will probably lose wickets very quickly once Stirling falls due to chasing pressure. England still has the upper hand in my opinion.

[Vishnu.Reang]

Impressive batting by Stirling and Balbirnie so far. They need another 169 runs, with 25 overs and 9 wickets in hand. Both the batsmen kept the scoreboard ticking, scoring somewhere between 6 and 7 runs per over. Ireland needs to win at least this match, to remain in media spotlight. Unless they are defeating the big 3 teams frequently, the major sponsors are not going to support them.

[Indymoney]

Impressive batting by Stirling and Balbirnie so far. They need another 169 runs, with 25 overs and 9 wickets in hand. Both the batsmen kept the scoreboard ticking, scoring somewhere between 6 and 7 runs per over. Ireland needs to win at least this match, to remain in media spotlight. Unless they are defeating the big 3 teams frequently, the major sponsors are not going to support them.

[eaLiTy]

Ireland surprised me in this match as i never expected them to chase this well without loosing much wicket, Paul Stirling reached his century and Andy Balbirnie is still in the crease and either of them should stay till the end for Ireland to win the match as the rest of the players could crumble under the pressure and i have not seen Kevin O'Brien perform well in a long time. 

[7788bitcoin]

Ireland surprised me in this match as i never expected them to chase this well without loosing much wicket, Paul Stirling reached his century and Andy Balbirnie is still in the crease and either of them should stay till the end for Ireland to win the match as the rest of the players could crumble under the pressure and i have not seen Kevin O'Brien perform well in a long time. 

If you watch the first two matches and the way in which Ireland top order failed to score runs no one would expect them to chase 328 runs but the way in which Ireland is chasing they could win the match easily as they need 81 runs from 66 balls and with the T20 era it is not a big task as they still have 9 wickets in hand. England could put pressure if they are able to break this partnership, sad i did not put a bet on Ireland as the odds were over 11 at one point.

[Indymoney]

Ireland surprised me in this match as i never expected them to chase this well without loosing much wicket, Paul Stirling reached his century and Andy Balbirnie is still in the crease and either of them should stay till the end for Ireland to win the match as the rest of the players could crumble under the pressure and i have not seen Kevin O'Brien perform well in a long time. 

If you watch the first two matches and the way in which Ireland top order failed to score runs no one would expect them to chase 328 runs but the way in which Ireland is chasing they could win the match easily as they need 81 runs from 66 balls and with the T20 era it is not a big task as they still have 9 wickets in hand. England could put pressure if they are able to break this partnership, sad i did not put a bet on Ireland as the odds were over 11 at one point.

203 runs in last 31 overs great fight from these two now leading for remarkable win and its second time now they are chasing 325+ against England Andy Balbirnie and Paul Stirling have some good form in right time few minutes ago I was watching odds for Ireland its nearly @3.6 and now these are same for England @3.6 good for punters as today they have some good win.