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[pakhitheboss]

Very much possible scenario.
I think ICC might give up their fantasy of spreading the test cricket in a longer run, let's say next 2 decades.

Even if they might not be successful in spreading Test cricket but i don't think anyone would get rid of The Ashes which is the most watched and entertaining series in cricket, Border–Gavaskar is another high profile series between Australia and India and so is Gandhi Mandela series between South Africa and India and Trans-Tasman series between Australia and New Zealand is always competitive and their rivalry are like India and Pakistan.

"By spreading Test Cricket" i meant adding new countries in Test playing nation list. The Ashes and Border-Gavaskar trophy is cash-cow for their respective boards so yeah, its not going anywhere.

Tournament that benefit the boards monetarily will always stay regardless of their format. The more viewership and revenue they will generate the longer they will stay. It also depends on the board on how well they promote these tournament and how good their team performs in test cricket format?

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[Juggy777]

Very much possible scenario.
I think ICC might give up their fantasy of spreading the test cricket in a longer run, let's say next 2 decades.

Even if they might not be successful in spreading Test cricket but i don't think anyone would get rid of The Ashes which is the most watched and entertaining series in cricket, Border–Gavaskar is another high profile series between Australia and India and so is Gandhi Mandela series between South Africa and India and Trans-Tasman series between Australia and New Zealand is always competitive and their rivalry are like India and Pakistan.

"By spreading Test Cricket" i meant adding new countries in Test playing nation list. The Ashes and Border-Gavaskar trophy is cash-cow for their respective boards so yeah, its not going anywhere.

Tournament that benefit the boards monetarily will always stay regardless of their format. The more viewership and revenue they will generate the longer they will stay. It also depends on the board on how well they promote these tournament and how good their team performs in test cricket format?

@JSRAW you’re absolutely correct as test cricket is definitely dying due to lack of promotion by the ICC, and I wouldn’t be surprised if more ODI matches take place instead of test matches in the near future. Also those tournaments mentioned by you will never be effected, because there’s lot of rivalry between those nations, and more rivalry means more money making opportunities for ICC (advertising, sponsors etc).

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https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/26414217/andrew-fidel-fernando-satirical-look-back-cricket-march-2019

[akram143]

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Maybe in the next decade we may not see much of the test cricket because it is the longest format of any sport available in the world, in modern era people are getting so busy with their work so they may not have much time to watch five day matches.

Very much possible scenario.

I think ICC might give up their fantasy of spreading the test cricket in a longer run, let's say next 2 decades.

More innovation in the World cricket would take place, we already have seen few in form of 3 teams Cricket / T-10 and soon with the 100 balls cricket.

I read about that 8 men three squad cricket but is that really possible? People may not get not much interest if three teams are playing against each other.But reducing the overs from T20 is highly possible in the coming years.

[pakhitheboss]

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Maybe in the next decade we may not see much of the test cricket because it is the longest format of any sport available in the world, in modern era people are getting so busy with their work so they may not have much time to watch five day matches.

Very much possible scenario.

I think ICC might give up their fantasy of spreading the test cricket in a longer run, let's say next 2 decades.

More innovation in the World cricket would take place, we already have seen few in form of 3 teams Cricket / T-10 and soon with the 100 balls cricket.

I read about that 8 men three squad cricket but is that really possible? People may not get not much interest if three teams are playing against each other.But reducing the overs from T20 is highly possible in the coming years.

Any experiment with a short format is always welcomed. It will be a success or not depends on the viewership and how much close these matches will end. No one likes one sided match in short form of cricket.

[FIFA worldcup]

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Maybe in the next decade we may not see much of the test cricket because it is the longest format of any sport available in the world, in modern era people are getting so busy with their work so they may not have much time to watch five day matches.

Very much possible scenario.

I think ICC might give up their fantasy of spreading the test cricket in a longer run, let's say next 2 decades.

More innovation in the World cricket would take place, we already have seen few in form of 3 teams Cricket / T-10 and soon with the 100 balls cricket.

I read about that 8 men three squad cricket but is that really possible? People may not get not much interest if three teams are playing against each other.But reducing the overs from T20 is highly possible in the coming years.

Not sure of how three teams can play together ? Do you have any source of this information where we can read more details about the plan ?

Secondly there are already T10 and T6 formats, so there is no need to reduce the overs in T20 format.

[Vishnu.Reang]

"By spreading Test Cricket" i meant adding new countries in Test playing nation list. The Ashes and Border-Gavaskar trophy is cash-cow for their respective boards so yeah, its not going anywhere.

But that doesn't necessarily mean that test cricket is doing great. Ashes and Border-Gavaskar trophy are exceptions. There is hardly any interest for test matches involving teams outside the Big-3 group. Test cricket is declining and the ICC is unable to stem its decline. So far, I am not witnessing any positive impact from the ICC World Test Championship.

[eaLiTy]

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"By spreading Test Cricket" i meant adding new countries in Test playing nation list. The Ashes and Border-Gavaskar trophy is cash-cow for their respective boards so yeah, its not going anywhere.

That is a fact, i am not expecting new countries to embrace Test cricket and i will be surprised if a new team will be added after Afghanistan and they might be the last team to get Test status. ICC should focus on the shorter format to introduce to new countries rather than forcing them to play Test cricket.

But that doesn't necessarily mean that test cricket is doing great. Ashes and Border-Gavaskar trophy are exceptions. There is hardly any interest for test matches involving teams outside the Big-3 group. Test cricket is declining and the ICC is unable to stem its decline. So far, I am not witnessing any positive impact from the ICC World Test Championship.

If the match up is not one sided and if there is a competition then people will be watching the match, apart from the big three of India Australia and England any series between India and Pakistan will garner huge crowd and New Zealand and Australia matches also attracts the crowd because of their rivalry.

[akram143]

Not sure of how three teams can play together ? Do you have any source of this information where we can read more details about the plan ?

Secondly there are already T10 and T6 formats, so there is no need to reduce the overs in T20 format.

Not sure how the game rules works in 3 squad match, Actually I just saw the title somewhere but missed to read the article, if anyone found that on internet please leave the link here.

For international standards decreasing the overs to 10 will not be a right things because the match will become like a street cricket and not much of contribution from every player in the squads.

[BitSat19]

Not sure of how three teams can play together ? Do you have any source of this information where we can read more details about the plan ?

Secondly there are already T10 and T6 formats, so there is no need to reduce the overs in T20 format.

Not sure how the game rules works in 3 squad match, Actually I just saw the title somewhere but missed to read the article, if anyone found that on internet please leave the link here.

For international standards decreasing the overs to 10 will not be a right things because the match will become like a street cricket and not much of contribution from every player in the squads.

Here is link about this new format https://www.news24.com/sport/cricket/proteas/everything-you-need-to-know-about-csas-3-team-cricket-20200617

[JSRAW]

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Not sure of how three teams can play together ? Do you have any source of this information where we can read more details about the plan ?

~snip~Not sure how the game rules works in 3 squad match, Actually I just saw the title somewhere but missed to read the article, if anyone found that on internet please leave the link here.

Here you go fellas....

Experimental three-team format to kick off South Africa's return to cricket

"By spreading Test Cricket" i meant adding new countries in Test playing nation list. The Ashes and Border-Gavaskar trophy is cash-cow for their respective boards so yeah, its not going anywhere.

But that doesn't necessarily mean that test cricket is doing great. Ashes and Border-Gavaskar trophy are exceptions. There is hardly any interest for test matches involving teams outside the Big-3 group. Test cricket is declining and the ICC is unable to stem its decline. So far, I am not witnessing any positive impact from the ICC World Test Championship.

If "Doing great" means "Audience in the Stadium"  then India which is one the BIG-3 country. Its not doing great as well, will not go into details as we already knows , why?. Only positive thing about Test cricket in India is, National and domestic teams /players takes test cricket seriously, especially Indian skipper Virat Kohli. SENA countries doing okay as far as spectators in stadium are concern despite their performances.

ICC WTC is not some magic spell, i agree results are not promising for smaller countries but its honest initiative and might take some time to kick off IMO.

That is a fact, i am not expecting new countries to embrace Test cricket and i will be surprised if a new team will be added after Afghanistan and they might be the last team to get Test status. ICC should focus on the shorter format to introduce to new countries rather than forcing them to play Test cricket.

In current situation, i would like to see Group system in the Test Cricket.

Group A : Top 6 teams
Group B : Bottom 6 teams

Replace bottom teams (4 and 5 5 and 6) from Group A > with topper teams ( 7 and 8 ) of Group B. After every FTP cycle.

[akram143]

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Not sure of how three teams can play together ? Do you have any source of this information where we can read more details about the plan ?

~snip~Not sure how the game rules works in 3 squad match, Actually I just saw the title somewhere but missed to read the article, if anyone found that on internet please leave the link here.

Here you go fellas....

Experimental three-team format to kick off South Africa's return to cricket

Its kind of more complicated to understand and I don't think it will be used in the international tournaments.

Pakistan's tour of ENG second test will be on 13th Aug, Do you think Pakistan has any chance to give comback performance after their lost in the first math.

[Indymoney]

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Not sure of how three teams can play together ? Do you have any source of this information where we can read more details about the plan ?

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Its kind of more complicated to understand and I don't think it will be used in the international tournaments.

Pakistan's tour of ENG second test will be on 13th Aug, Do you think Pakistan has any chance to give comback performance after their lost in the first math.

For me its very difficult for Pakistan to fight back even they are unpredictable and able to do these things but after losing first test very poorly they have very few chances to fight back and level this series team management need to do some work on players as they try to play like a team not individualy because its not going helping them.

[Vishnu.Reang]

If the match up is not one sided and if there is a competition then people will be watching the match, apart from the big three of India Australia and England any series between India and Pakistan will garner huge crowd and New Zealand and Australia matches also attracts the crowd because of their rivalry.

A series between India and Pakistan is not going to happen, at least for the next 2-3 decades. So for now we can ignore that scenario. I am not denying the fact that a lot of bad blood exists between Australia and New Zealand. But when these two teams play against each other, not much hype is generated outside Oceania. On the other hand, the Ashes and the Border Gavaskar Trophy attracts attention from all over the world.

[BitSat19]

If the match up is not one sided and if there is a competition then people will be watching the match, apart from the big three of India Australia and England any series between India and Pakistan will garner huge crowd and New Zealand and Australia matches also attracts the crowd because of their rivalry.

A series between India and Pakistan is not going to happen, at least for the next 2-3 decades. So for now we can ignore that scenario. I am not denying the fact that a lot of bad blood exists between Australia and New Zealand. But when these two teams play against each other, not much hype is generated outside Oceania. On the other hand, the Ashes and the Border Gavaskar Trophy attracts attention from all over the world.

Now PCB already announces they already closed this chapter they never request India to Play against Pakistan because its nothing serious business both teams doing their own commitments with other teams and have some good cricket its enough for these both dirty politics and politicians giving bad out come here in Sub Continent so good thing this is now end from both sides.

[JSRAW]

Experimental three-team format to kick off South Africa's return to cricket

Its kind of more complicated to understand and I don't think it will be used in the international tournaments.

Cricket itself is very complicated sport so i don't really buy this "complicated" argument. Sample data is very small atm as it was just an exhibition game. We need more games of 3TC so that we can analysis pros and cons.

I watched it and IMO it was bit boring at start may be because of empty stadium but after couple of overs it was enjoyable.

Pakistan's tour of ENG second test will be on 13th Aug, Do you think Pakistan has any chance to give comback performance after their lost in the first math.

Pakistan is unpredictable team so you never know but if they are batting second then they have less than 5% chance of winning the match as they suck at chasing, even small target.

[eaLiTy]

i would like to see Group system in the Test Cricket.
Group A : Top 6 teams
Group B : Bottom 6 teams
Replace bottom teams (4 and 5) from Group A > with topper teams ( 7 and 8 ) of Group B. After every FTP cycle.

We have discussed this earlier but the ICC should take this into account, as cricket fans is it possible to forward proposals through their official channels if so we can start signing petition and sending these group system so that they would consider when they really understand the need for change according to the rankings rather than putting lower ranked teams against top teams.

On a side note if there was a group system we would never see West Indies or Pakistan and England and these cricket boards will revolt against the group system because most of the teams want the top teams to play against these teams to get business and since cricket is business oriented it is highly unlikely we will see that happening and West Indies board recently proposed England to tour West Indies and return the favor for visiting them when every team was taking a break.

A series between India and Pakistan is not going to happen, at least for the next 2-3 decades. So for now we can ignore that scenario. I am not denying the fact that a lot of bad blood exists between Australia and New Zealand. But when these two teams play against each other, not much hype is generated outside Oceania.

India Pakistan series might not happen in the near future but what i was trying to tell is that when ever they play it was a blockbuster viewership.
Australia and New Zealand is popular but the population they have is not huge compared to Asian countries and hence we cannot compare the viewership and hence the lack of hype here, if you watch the old matches in West Indies every series was a carnival like situation even though the players in the squad are from different countries.

[pakhitheboss]

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Not sure of how three teams can play together ? Do you have any source of this information where we can read more details about the plan ?

~snip~Not sure how the game rules works in 3 squad match, Actually I just saw the title somewhere but missed to read the article, if anyone found that on internet please leave the link here.

Here you go fellas....

Experimental three-team format to kick off South Africa's return to cricket

Its kind of more complicated to understand and I don't think it will be used in the international tournaments.

Pakistan's tour of ENG second test will be on 13th Aug, Do you think Pakistan has any chance to give comback performance after their lost in the first math.

Yeah, it is pretty complicated for sure and I do not think fans want a complicated cricket format but, we need to wait and see how it works on the field.

Pakistan can win but they need to be more focused this time. They need to rethink their strategy for the second half.

[JSRAW]

i would like to see Group system in the Test Cricket.
Group A : Top 6 teams
Group B : Bottom 6 teams
Replace bottom teams (4 and 5) from Group A > with topper teams ( 7 and 8 ) of Group B. After every FTP cycle.

We have discussed this earlier but the ICC should take this into account, as cricket fans is it possible to forward proposals through their official channels if so we can start signing petition and sending these group system so that they would consider when they really understand the need for change according to the rankings rather than putting lower ranked teams against top teams.

You are expecting too much from the ICC, they are not NGO.  . Take this for an example, almost everyone wants to see 16+ team participation in the World Cup but ICC not even thinking about it.

On a side note if there was a group system we would never see West Indies or Pakistan and England

If that's the case then obvious argument is -We as a cricket fan shouldn't bitch about competitiveness much-.

[akram143]

A Big Shocking News!

MS Dhoni announced his retirement via his instagram

Source: https://www.hindustantimes.com/cricket/ms-dhoni-announces-retirement-from-international-cricket/story-vlFfrbT21FWo9RZUZlzh9K.html

Honestly it is a really shocking news for the cricket lovers in India even for the whole world because he got fans from all around the world, so no more blue jersy on MSD and only Yellow love from now on.

[bitcoinisbest]

Legendary MS Dhoni took the social media to announce his retirement from all forms of International cricket. This is one of the days which nobody in cricketing world would wanted to see it the way he has personified himself on the cricketing pitch and the unmatched Wicketkeeper/Batsman and a captain India has ever produced. This would be hard times for the fans to see him bid adieu and now only they would see him in IPL and most likely this may be his last IPL as well.

Under his leadership India won all forms of world cups and gave hope that India could be champions in all forms of cricket. All would miss him and his strategies on field.

Thank you for giving so many wonderful moments to cherish.