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November 11, 2023, 10:38:02 PM
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England squashed Pakistan surprisingly since I was expecting Pak to win this one. I felt that Afridi dropped the game when he dropped Stokes's catch who was in his 20s which was relatively easy in my opinion.

Anyway, both of these teams qualified for the CT 2025 which is the silver lining for them since they were out of the semifinals race before the match started.
Every year these two teams have been in great form but due to poor performance of Pakistan and England in this year's Indian World Cup, England has been knocked out in the semi-final long ago and Pakistan has been knocked out in the semi-final by yesterday's match. However, the balance between these two teams was not right due to which they were eliminated from the semi-finals due to losing the early matches. However, both teams can participate in the 2025 Champions Trophy.

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November 11, 2023, 10:46:30 PM
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In last few events Pakistan fail to perform as expectations which is surely big concern for them even every time we have good hype about them, but they never reach into last four as well with last time they lost final in 1999 and semi-final in 2011 after this we have never them at this point which is clearly indicating how things are going without any solid strategy and work they were here in India for the title and having same result which mean they need to sit and work out on their future if they want to have better results otherwise things like these will bring them down like we have cricket in Sri Lanka.
As media reports are saying few changes will be happened before Australia tour, even this could be another worst tour for them because they had never been good and now in current situation they can go down badly again.

The startling game of the Pakistan was good like India and South Africa,but after the defeat with the South Africa.The bowling of the Pakistan was th easy one to the opponent,today the weakest performer of the league also made the 300+ runs with the Pakistan bowling was the biggest draw back to the team Pakistan.This was the unexpected loss for the Pakistan,because the England won the Pakistan with the run gap between 93 runs.This was the huge gap next to the India and South Africa performance in the today match,this was the biggest lesson for the Pakistan to keep their complete game till the league or else it leads to big opportunity loss like this to the semi finals.

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November 11, 2023, 10:47:11 PM
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England squashed Pakistan surprisingly since I was expecting Pak to win this one. I felt that Afridi dropped the game when he dropped Stokes's catch who was in his 20s which was relatively easy in my opinion.

Anyway, both of these teams qualified for the CT 2025 which is the silver lining for them since they were out of the semifinals race before the match started.
In my opinion, Pakistani team didn't deserve to be in semi final , Pakistani team not only in this but also in whole tournament not performed well and the Pakistan played against New Zealand , Pakistan won due to luck.New Zealand team deserves to be in final , Semi final between India and New Zealand will be very interesting.  England team not performed well in this tournament ,rather they are defending champion but they are at the bottom of points table. No one expect this type of performance of England team in World Cup. Indians are very tricky and they know all stat of any player and they plan and then execute it . But Next match will be very difficult for India because New Zealand team is playing good in this tournament and their bowling is top class . Santner will hit the wicket
and he will be man of the match in next match.
I completely disagreed with you about their performance win against New Zealand was not just because of the luck they perform well then ICC and event organizers give them two points and this rule apply for all matches and all teams with over all Pakistan were not good in this even but still I have feeling just two matches give them big setback first against Afghanistan and then South Africa they have done poor in these both matches and now have early flight back to home.
Pakistan having good players but mostly as team they fail to perform which is clearly lack of leadership and motivation which is also important in current era internal politics also having impact but still they have fifth spot which is reasonable for them with this performance in India where they have no experience and things were also not favorable for them.

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November 12, 2023, 02:19:17 AM
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The last group match in the ICC Cricket World Cup will be played today, between India and Netherlands. India is likely to experiment with their bench strength, by including players such as Ashwin and Prasidh Krishna in their XI. On the other hand, this match is very crucial for the Netherlands. If they can defeat India somehow, then they will qualify for the 2025 Champions Trophy. That would mean additional matches against full member teams and a big boost in the fund allocation from the ICC for the Netherlands.

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November 12, 2023, 02:27:30 AM
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India vs Netherlands
The World Cup is almost at an end, today is the last match of the World Cup group stage in India vs Netherlands. India has confirmed the semi-final from number 1 in the points table, India will play in the semi-final against New Zealand. Today's match is not an important match for India, but India is unbeaten so far so they will try to win today's match. Today's match is very important for Netherlands, although the chance of Netherlands win today is not 5%, if Netherlands can win today by luck then they will have chance to play in ICC Champions Trophy. Because Bangladesh is at number 8 with 4 points, if Netherlands can win today, it will be 6 points and will move up to number 8 in the points table. However there is absolutely no chance of Netherlands winning today, I am sure India will win today.
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November 12, 2023, 02:28:04 AM
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In today match paksitan has to win his last match for his pride at least but unfortunately they didn't and lose against a team who played worst cricket from start and just won thier recent to be honest as a fan it's really tough.
England batted well and they carry forwarded the confidence from their last win but Pakistan batting lineup got confused and dropping Fakhar zaman costed them this in my opinion also Babar failed terribly and he didn't contrbute much in the runs column. Anyway while I was watching commentators mentioned that there is possibilty to drop Babar from captaincy due to lack of performance and PCB already made this decision, now sure how much valid this statement is but if its true then who will be the captain?
When Pakistan could not stop England in terms of runs, maybe their morale strength was lost. However, it is not possible to make impossible gaps according to their needs. But if Pakistan could have won the match as the last match then maybe we could say at positively. But in the end that didn't happen either. A target of 339 runs should have given the Pakistan team a more professional match. Because they won the last match brilliantly. Anyway, let's talk about the last four now. New Zealand will face India again. However, the performance of the Indian team this time is different from any other session. No team in the last three has the ability to beat them. But there is a matter of luck so we have to wait for the results on the field of play.
I think now we should discuss only the semi-final matches. Pakistan had a poor performance in the last match due to which they were defeated by England by a big margin. When we were dreaming of Pakistan going to the semi-finals, we should have thought earlier that no matter how much we tried to fix the equation, Pakistan would have to win against England first. Where Pakistan failed to win against England, we failed to match all the equations.  

The matches between the four teams that have qualified for the semi-finals have already been decided, with India taking on New Zealand and Australia taking on South Africa. It is sure to be a tough battle between these four teams but India will definitely be ahead against New Zealand and Australia will be ahead against South Africa.

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The last group match in the ICC Cricket World Cup will be played today, between India and Netherlands. India is likely to experiment with their bench strength, by including players such as Ashwin and Prasidh Krishna in their XI. On the other hand, this match is very crucial for the Netherlands. If they can defeat India somehow, then they will qualify for the 2025 Champions Trophy. That would mean additional matches against full member teams and a big boost in the fund allocation from the ICC for the Netherlands.
It would be surprising if India decides to rest fast bowlers, considering they are getting enough rest between every match and you don't want to break their rhythm before the semis. They also have 2 days rest for semis so i believe the workload is manageable.

If it's absolutely necessary then maybe Siraj or Bumrah can sit this one out and Krishna could come in. It's Wankede Chinnaswamy and all seamers are doing fine at this venue so Ashwin's services may not be required but again you never know what the Rohit-Dravid duo is thinking.
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November 12, 2023, 03:43:13 AM
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In today match paksitan has to win his last match for his pride at least but unfortunately they didn't and lose against a team who played worst cricket from start and just won thier recent to be honest as a fan it's really tough.
England batted well and they carry forwarded the confidence from their last win but Pakistan batting lineup got confused and dropping Fakhar zaman costed them this in my opinion also Babar failed terribly and he didn't contrbute much in the runs column. Anyway while I was watching commentators mentioned that there is possibilty to drop Babar from captaincy due to lack of performance and PCB already made this decision, now sure how much valid this statement is but if its true then who will be the captain?
When Pakistan could not stop England in terms of runs, maybe their morale strength was lost. However, it is not possible to make impossible gaps according to their needs. But if Pakistan could have won the match as the last match then maybe we could say at positively. But in the end that didn't happen either. A target of 339 runs should have given the Pakistan team a more professional match. Because they won the last match brilliantly. Anyway, let's talk about the last four now. New Zealand will face India again. However, the performance of the Indian team this time is different from any other session. No team in the last three has the ability to beat them. But there is a matter of luck so we have to wait for the results on the field of play.
I think now we should discuss only the semi-final matches. Pakistan had a poor performance in the last match due to which they were defeated by England by a big margin. When we were dreaming of Pakistan going to the semi-finals, we should have thought earlier that no matter how much we tried to fix the equation, Pakistan would have to win against England first. Where Pakistan failed to win against England, we failed to match all the equations.  

The matches between the four teams that have qualified for the semi-finals have already been decided, with India taking on New Zealand and Australia taking on South Africa. It is sure to be a tough battle between these four teams but India will definitely be ahead against New Zealand and Australia will be ahead against South Africa.

Pakistan's performance has been poor since the start of this World Cup. The bowlers did not do well, as well as the performance of the batsmen was quite erratic. None of the batsmen in the squad could consistently perform well. This is why the Pakistan team failed to qualify for the semi-finals.

Australia, India, New Zealand and South Africa qualified for the semi-finals. And these four teams are in great form right now. Apart from New Zealand, the performance of the other three teams is very consistent. Indian team played well and won every match. And if they continue like this, India will not lose a single match in this World Cup and will become champions. I consider India as the most favorite to win the world championship.

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November 12, 2023, 05:01:19 AM
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India vs Netherlands
The World Cup is almost at an end, today is the last match of the World Cup group stage in India vs Netherlands. India has confirmed the semi-final from number 1 in the points table, India will play in the semi-final against New Zealand. Today's match is not an important match for India, but India is unbeaten so far so they will try to win today's match. Today's match is very important for Netherlands, although the chance of Netherlands win today is not 5%, if Netherlands can win today by luck then they will have chance to play in ICC Champions Trophy. Because Bangladesh is at number 8 with 4 points, if Netherlands can win today, it will be 6 points and will move up to number 8 in the points table. However there is absolutely no chance of Netherlands winning today, I am sure India will win today.

If you check the odds at stake.com, you will realize that for India you will only get 1.01 odds while if you risk your money on the Netherlands, you will get 12 odds. Though betting on the Netherlands looks too much tempting, the reality is that there is no way the Netherlands is going to win against the mighty India.



With this, we will end the 45 matches of the World Cup today and after today's match, there will be just 2 semi finals and the big final left to be played in this World Cup.

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Pakistan lost their last match of the World Cup. The poor journey of Pakistan in the ICC tournaments is continuous. They have to rethink their white-ball strategy. I think the major factor that contributed to Pakistan's loss was their bowling attack. Their main bowler, Shaheen Afridi has only three wickets with the new ball, and Rauf also performed below average. The wicket early on for Pakistan was not there, and the bowlers conceded too many runs in the power play.
Apart from a few batsmen, other Pakistan batters were not performing up to their potential. A journey to forget for Pakistan.

I am looking at the India vs Australia final, but I really hope South Africa and New Zealand should reach the final. At least, this way, we will have a new World Champion. 
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Australia, India, New Zealand and South Africa qualified for the semi-finals. And these four teams are in great form right now. Apart from New Zealand, the performance of the other three teams is very consistent. Indian team played well and won every match. And if they continue like this, India will not lose a single match in this World Cup and will become champions. I consider India as the most favorite to win the world championship.
No brother pakistan team performance wasn't that kind of poor in the beginning of this world cup. In the beginning they constantly on to match after that they loss 4 match in a row. After that they were trying to come back. But in the previous match it's true that they are bowling performance wasn't that good. Not only just there bowling performance they are batting performance was also pore against England that's why I think their loss the match. Anyway, Pakistan's loss is good for England.  Otherwise, their ranking would have remained at the bottom, now at least they are number seven in the points table.

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Pakistan lost their last match of the World Cup. The poor journey of Pakistan in the ICC tournaments is continuous. They have to rethink their white-ball strategy. I think the major factor that contributed to Pakistan's loss was their bowling attack. Their main bowler, Shaheen Afridi has only three wickets with the new ball, and Rauf also performed below average. The wicket early on for Pakistan was not there, and the bowlers conceded too many runs in the power play.
Apart from a few batsmen, other Pakistan batters were not performing up to their potential. A journey to forget for Pakistan.

More than the bowling, it is the poor batting performance from the Pakistan batsmen and some poor selection from the management.
In India, most of the teams who won have scored big runs in excess of 350 and Pakistan never looked to score or chase such big targets. Their approach seems to collect the traditional 270-290 runs and think that it is sufficient for them. In India pitches. you need to think beyond 350 for a safe win.


I am looking at the India vs Australia final, but I really hope South Africa and New Zealand should reach the final. At least, this way, we will have a new World Champion.  

India is unbeaten in this World Cup while Australia have come back strongly after some early matches loss. I think both of these two teams have good mental strength and that is required in big matches such as the World Cup Semi finals and the final.

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November 12, 2023, 06:09:38 AM
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Australia, India, New Zealand and South Africa qualified for the semi-finals. And these four teams are in great form right now. Apart from New Zealand, the performance of the other three teams is very consistent. Indian team played well and won every match. And if they continue like this, India will not lose a single match in this World Cup and will become champions. I consider India as the most favorite to win the world championship.
No brother pakistan team performance wasn't that kind of poor in the beginning of this world cup. In the beginning they constantly on to match after that they loss 4 match in a row. After that they were trying to come back. But in the previous match it's true that they are bowling performance wasn't that good. Not only just there bowling performance they are batting performance was also pore against England that's why I think their loss the match. Anyway, Pakistan's loss is good for England.  Otherwise, their ranking would have remained at the bottom, now at least they are number seven in the points table.

Pakistan started the World Cup against the Netherlands and Sri Lanka. These two teams are the weakest in this World Cup. Even then, Pakistan did not get an easy win against these two teams. Both the matches were very competitive.

After that, Pakistan lost all four matches in a row. If the performance of the bowlers had been better then maybe we would have seen 2 more wins from Pakistan. But the performance of Pakistani bowlers is quite weak in this World Cup. And finally, the team finished the World Cup journey from fifth place in the points table.

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Pakistan lost their last match of the World Cup. The poor journey of Pakistan in the ICC tournaments is continuous. They have to rethink their white-ball strategy. I think the major factor that contributed to Pakistan's loss was their bowling attack. Their main bowler, Shaheen Afridi has only three wickets with the new ball, and Rauf also performed below average. The wicket early on for Pakistan was not there, and the bowlers conceded too many runs in the power play.
Apart from a few batsmen, other Pakistan batters were not performing up to their potential. A journey to forget for Pakistan.
We are thinking that Pakistan will out perform in the last match and will make a good run rate to qualify for the ICC World cup but they didn't set the Run Rate oppositely they lost the match. 😆😆
By the way you written a bad journey of Pakistan. And some matches was really interesting. And some matches disappointed us much.
So now we are looking India much better as compare to other teams. So I think India will win ICC World Cup

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November 12, 2023, 07:47:21 AM
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Pakistan started the World Cup against the Netherlands and Sri Lanka. These two teams are the weakest in this World Cup. Even then, Pakistan did not get an easy win against these two teams. Both the matches were very competitive.

After that, Pakistan lost all four matches in a row. If the performance of the bowlers had been better then maybe we would have seen 2 more wins from Pakistan. But the performance of Pakistani bowlers is quite weak in this World Cup. And finally, the team finished the World Cup journey from fifth place in the points table.

Talking particularly of the Pakistan journey in this World Cup, yes they were just disappointed with their forms. Even their wins against the small teams were not by a big margin due to which they struggled in the run rate too. Apart from fakhar zaman one performance in the match against New Zealand where he scored 126 runs, i can't remember any significant performance from their batting lineup. Even in that match, had it not been interrupted by rain, Pakistan may not have chased 400+.

Also, there is nothing special to talk about their bowlers too. We know that over the past World Cups, Pakistan had some great bowlers but in this World Cup they had an ordinary bowling attack. Shaheen Shah Afridi, their trump card, did not look comfortable at the start of this bowling spell and went for too many runs, putting pressure on the other bowlers.

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November 12, 2023, 08:17:27 AM
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Pakistan lost their last match of the World Cup. The poor journey of Pakistan in the ICC tournaments is continuous. They have to rethink their white-ball strategy. I think the major factor that contributed to Pakistan's loss was their bowling attack. Their main bowler, Shaheen Afridi has only three wickets with the new ball, and Rauf also performed below average. The wicket early on for Pakistan was not there, and the bowlers conceded too many runs in the power play.
Apart from a few batsmen, other Pakistan batters were not performing up to their potential. A journey to forget for Pakistan.

More than the bowling, it is the poor batting performance from the Pakistan batsmen and some poor selection from the management.
In India, most of the teams who won have scored big runs in excess of 350 and Pakistan never looked to score or chase such big targets. Their approach seems to collect the traditional 270-290 runs and think that it is sufficient for them. In India pitches. you need to think beyond 350 for a safe win.
Pakistan poor batting and bowling performance in world cup. England won by 93 runs against Pakistan. Pakistan all out in 244 runs in 43.3 overs, From Pakistan Salman Ali Agha batting well scored fifty 51 runs in 45 balls and Babar Azam only scored 38 runs in 45 balls. England outstanding bowling performance David Willey picked 3 wickets  and Gus Atkinson picked 2 wickets by giving 45 runs in 8 overs. The player of the match is David Willey for his amazing all round batting and bowling performance they picked 3 important wicktes by giving 56 runs in 10 over and also scored 15 important runs in just 5 balls and play an important role in England victory.

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November 12, 2023, 08:55:27 AM
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India vs Netherland

India won the toss and decided to bat against the Netherlands. The weakest team in the World Cup is the Netherlands, on the other hand, the strongest team is India. India showed great dominance and won every match. I have no doubt that India will win today's match very easily.

My guess is that India's batsmen will at least give a target of 360 or more today. The pitch is batting-friendly, as well as India's batsmen are in very good form. Indian batsmen are batting with the aim of collecting 400 runs. India collected 53 runs without losing any wickets in 6 overs. Shubman Gill unbeaten with 26 runs off 13 balls

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India vs Netherlands! My bet is on Gill to score a century in this match since he seemed to have recovered his form recently. They are already off to a great start and they will probably end up posting a total in excess of 340.

Dead rubber match for both teams basically. However, I still am impressed with how Netherlands has performed through majority of this tournament.

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November 12, 2023, 09:11:55 AM
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India won the toss and decided to bat against the Netherlands. The weakest team in the World Cup is the Netherlands, on the other hand, the strongest team is India. India showed great dominance and won every match. I have no doubt that India will win today's match very easily.

My guess is that India's batsmen will at least give a target of 360 or more today. The pitch is batting-friendly, as well as India's batsmen are in very good form. Indian batsmen are batting with the aim of collecting 400 runs. India collected 53 runs without losing any wickets in 6 overs. Shubman Gill unbeaten with 26 runs off 13 balls

I agree with you. India are batting today with a target of 400 runs. India collected 91 runs in 10 overs of power play. India scored more than 9 runs per over. And they haven't lost a single wicket yet. Shubman Gill scored 47 off 26 balls and Rohit Sharma remained unbeaten on 42 off 34 balls. The two openers got off to a great start. Virat Kohli and KL Rahul are also in very good form. India will collect more than 350 in today's match very easily. But I won't be surprised if India scores the highest runs in this World Cup. India has this capability.

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November 12, 2023, 09:18:26 AM
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India won the toss and decided to bat against the Netherlands. The weakest team in the World Cup is the Netherlands, on the other hand, the strongest team is India. India showed great dominance and won every match. I have no doubt that India will win today's match very easily.

My guess is that India's batsmen will at least give a target of 360 or more today. The pitch is batting-friendly, as well as India's batsmen are in very good form. Indian batsmen are batting with the aim of collecting 400 runs. India collected 53 runs without losing any wickets in 6 overs. Shubman Gill unbeaten with 26 runs off 13 balls

I agree with you. India are batting today with a target of 400 runs. India collected 91 runs in 10 overs of power play. India scored more than 9 runs per over. And they haven't lost a single wicket yet. Shubman Gill scored 47 off 26 balls and Rohit Sharma remained unbeaten on 42 off 34 balls. The two openers got off to a great start. Virat Kohli and KL Rahul are also in very good form. India will collect more than 350 in today's match very easily. But I won't be surprised if India scores the highest runs in this World Cup. India has this capability.

It's to hard to cross 400 runs but i thik if the opening batsman Rohit Sharma and Shubman Gill partnership goes strong. Then there is possibility to easily cross 350+ . If they play good partnership then they there is possibility to cross 400 runs. Let's see what happens. But we can surely say that india going to win.

The current situation is 98 in 11.2 overs. There is no chance to win Netherland. Chears for India.

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