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Question: What team will win the PBA 2021 All Filipino Conference?
Barangay Ginebra - 15 (45.5%)
SMB - 7 (21.2%)
Magnolia Hotshots - 4 (12.1%)
Talk and Text - 6 (18.2%)
Phoenix Fuel Masters - 1 (3%)
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May 24, 2024, 02:26:53 PM
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Big come back by SMB, they were down like almost 20 IIRC, and then they have a big run in the 4th quarter to beat the ROS by 7 points.

if we look at the scoring per quarter,
https://pba.ph/recap?match=2445863

SMB   25   16   34   32   107
ROS   27   28   32   13   100

That 4th quarter was when SMB decided to finished the series in game 4.


That is so painful to look if you are a Rain or shine fan. They gave up their big lead in the 4th quarter, that's just too bad, they could have avoided the sweep. Now, SMB will rest early while the other semi are already even, and might likely go to game 7.

JMF will be relax, will probably be streaming with his mobile legend games, LOL.. That's how cool their big guy but is beast in the court because he is unstoppable. I didn't finished the game but i think it was Don Trollano which was named as the best player of the game as he is the reason for the big comeback of the SMB.

He finished with 20 points from 9-14 shooting, that was very efficient.

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May 24, 2024, 09:55:42 PM
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Big come back by SMB, they were down like almost 20 IIRC, and then they have a big run in the 4th quarter to beat the ROS by 7 points.

if we look at the scoring per quarter,
https://pba.ph/recap?match=2445863

SMB   25   16   34   32   107
ROS   27   28   32   13   100

That 4th quarter was when SMB decided to finished the series in game 4.


That is so painful to look if you are a Rain or shine fan. They gave up their big lead in the 4th quarter, that's just too bad, they could have avoided the sweep. Now, SMB will rest early while the other semi are already even, and might likely go to game 7.

JMF will be relax, will probably be streaming with his mobile legend games, LOL.. That's how cool their big guy but is beast in the court because he is unstoppable. I didn't finished the game but i think it was Don Trollano which was named as the best player of the game as he is the reason for the big comeback of the SMB.

He finished with 20 points from 9-14 shooting, that was very efficient.

Yeah early rest for Abay, more than 20 rebounds 27 if I'm not mistaken  plus 17 points  decent enough for that big fellow, I was in the impressions that my predictions will come true as ROS still have that comfortable lead during the last quarter but to my surprise they've got limited and SMB overrun  them and snatched the game from them,  it's really a tough game for RoS they tried everything but SMB is really too much for them to handle,  congrats to all those who support SMB especially those live bettors who believes that SMB will win!

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May 24, 2024, 09:56:41 PM
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JMF will be relax, will probably be streaming with his mobile legend games, LOL.. That's how cool their big guy but is beast in the court because he is unstoppable. I didn't finished the game but i think it was Don Trollano which was named as the best player of the game as he is the reason for the big comeback of the SMB.
Does he plays ML and LOL? I thought that he's only playing Dota 2. But yeah, he can have his relaxation for now while waiting who's going to win against Ginebra and Meralco Bolts. By the way, congratulations to SMB for advancing to the finals after defeating Rain or Shine with a straight 4-0, they really are a strong team no doubt.

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May 25, 2024, 12:55:26 PM
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JMF will be relax, will probably be streaming with his mobile legend games, LOL.. That's how cool their big guy but is beast in the court because he is unstoppable. I didn't finished the game but i think it was Don Trollano which was named as the best player of the game as he is the reason for the big comeback of the SMB.
Does he plays ML and LOL? I thought that he's only playing Dota 2. But yeah, he can have his relaxation for now while waiting who's going to win against Ginebra and Meralco Bolts. By the way, congratulations to SMB for advancing to the finals after defeating Rain or Shine with a straight 4-0, they really are a strong team no doubt.
They rested early, I think they'll easily win the championship again in the Finals. I don't know if it's Ginebra or Meralco, but I like to see Meralco advancing to the Finals so it's MVP and Cojuangco group that will face, no more "cooking show" rumors between the two. It was an impressive performance by Ginebra in game 4, they were able to even the series but I think Meralco will bounce back next game and will also have their big win.
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May 25, 2024, 02:18:52 PM
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JMF will be relax, will probably be streaming with his mobile legend games, LOL.. That's how cool their big guy but is beast in the court because he is unstoppable. I didn't finished the game but i think it was Don Trollano which was named as the best player of the game as he is the reason for the big comeback of the SMB.
Does he plays ML and LOL? I thought that he's only playing Dota 2. But yeah, he can have his relaxation for now while waiting who's going to win against Ginebra and Meralco Bolts. By the way, congratulations to SMB for advancing to the finals after defeating Rain or Shine with a straight 4-0, they really are a strong team no doubt.
They rested early, I think they'll easily win the championship again in the Finals. I don't know if it's Ginebra or Meralco, but I like to see Meralco advancing to the Finals so it's MVP and Cojuangco group that will face, no more "cooking show" rumors between the two. It was an impressive performance by Ginebra in game 4, they were able to even the series but I think Meralco will bounce back next game and will also have their big win.
They have fresh legs, which is a big advantage for them in the Finals. SMB vs. GSMB might not be a good matchup, but we're talking about the crowd here. We know that when Ginebra is in the Finals, people will be watching the game.

However, based on my personal observation, the better team is Meralco, as they beat Ginebra in a close game. I don't think the last game reflects how good Ginebra is, because the law of averages will return in Game 5, and I don't think it will be a blowout win for either team.

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May 26, 2024, 08:39:03 AM
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However, based on my personal observation, the better team is Meralco, as they beat Ginebra in a close game. I don't think the last game reflects how good Ginebra is, because the law of averages will return in Game 5, and I don't think it will be a blowout win for either team.

Same here, I don't think game 5 would be a blowout win for either team but still, I am betting for Ginebra Kings tonight as they got their much-needed confidence on that game 4 win. This is a game of momentum and I think the Kings have high moral going into game 5.

My bet for tonight:
Ginebra -4.5 @1.83 vs Meralco

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Last edit: May 26, 2024, 12:50:40 PM by Distinctin
 #13487

However, based on my personal observation, the better team is Meralco, as they beat Ginebra in a close game. I don't think the last game reflects how good Ginebra is, because the law of averages will return in Game 5, and I don't think it will be a blowout win for either team.

Same here, I don't think game 5 would be a blowout win for either team but still, I am betting for Ginebra Kings tonight as they got their much-needed confidence on that game 4 win. This is a game of momentum and I think the Kings have high moral going into game 5.

My bet for tonight:
Ginebra -4.5 @1.83 vs Meralco



Looks like you are on the wrong side, mate. I wonder what happened to the line; it opened at -2.5 and moved to -4.5. Probably the amount of hype is very high after that big win by Ginebra. Now the game is very close, although Meralco led by double digits, Ginebra did come back. On a Sunday game, I think this will favor Ginebra, but since you are getting the spread, that's a tough one. Still, I'm hoping you'll win.

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Congrats @bisdak40 , just enough to win your bet as Ginebra won by 5 points.

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May 26, 2024, 01:42:20 PM
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However, based on my personal observation, the better team is Meralco, as they beat Ginebra in a close game. I don't think the last game reflects how good Ginebra is, because the law of averages will return in Game 5, and I don't think it will be a blowout win for either team.

Same here, I don't think game 5 would be a blowout win for either team but still, I am betting for Ginebra Kings tonight as they got their much-needed confidence on that game 4 win. This is a game of momentum and I think the Kings have high moral going into game 5.

My bet for tonight:
Ginebra -4.5 @1.83 vs Meralco



Looks like you are on the wrong side, mate. I wonder what happened to the line; it opened at -2.5 and moved to -4.5. Probably the amount of hype is very high after that big win by Ginebra. Now the game is very close, although Meralco led by double digits, Ginebra did come back. On a Sunday game, I think this will favor Ginebra, but since you are getting the spread, that's a tough one. Still, I'm hoping you'll win.

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Congrats @bisdak40 , just enough to win your bet as Ginebra won by 5 points.

Just saving the day for those Gin kings backers, noticing that the lead is enough to cover the handicap well it's a sunday game and most of the time Gin kings fans loves to watch and bet for the team, those who win today surely got their cold beers and a lot of shared stories after that escaped from losing the bets, though those who take the ML, still enough to enjoy the win.

Congrats to all those Gin kings backers, they are now leading the series 3-2 let see if they will complete this and end the series in game 6 or Meralco will recover and force for a do-or-die game 7.

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May 26, 2024, 09:04:39 PM
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However, based on my personal observation, the better team is Meralco, as they beat Ginebra in a close game. I don't think the last game reflects how good Ginebra is, because the law of averages will return in Game 5, and I don't think it will be a blowout win for either team.

Same here, I don't think game 5 would be a blowout win for either team but still, I am betting for Ginebra Kings tonight as they got their much-needed confidence on that game 4 win. This is a game of momentum and I think the Kings have high moral going into game 5.

My bet for tonight:
Ginebra -4.5 @1.83 vs Meralco



Looks like you are on the wrong side, mate. I wonder what happened to the line; it opened at -2.5 and moved to -4.5. Probably the amount of hype is very high after that big win by Ginebra. Now the game is very close, although Meralco led by double digits, Ginebra did come back. On a Sunday game, I think this will favor Ginebra, but since you are getting the spread, that's a tough one. Still, I'm hoping you'll win.

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Congrats @bisdak40 , just enough to win your bet as Ginebra won by 5 points.

Just saving the day for those Gin kings backers, noticing that the lead is enough to cover the handicap well it's a sunday game and most of the time Gin kings fans loves to watch and bet for the team, those who win today surely got their cold beers and a lot of shared stories after that escaped from losing the bets, though those who take the ML, still enough to enjoy the win.

Congrats to all those Gin kings backers, they are now leading the series 3-2 let see if they will complete this and end the series in game 6 or Meralco will recover and force for a do-or-die game 7.

That was really close for Ginebra backers as the spread closed at -4.5 and Ginebra didn't really dominate the game. They just came back after being down by double digits. The "never say die" attitude was on display once again, and it's a good thing C. Stand has a new trick up his sleeve. That mid-range jump shot was added and made him more deadly.

Also, Ahamnissi played great basketball. That was really good for Ginebra. However, I have a feeling that Game 6 will be Meralco's, and there will be a Game 7. In the Finals, it might be short, being dominated by SMB.

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That was really close for Ginebra backers as the spread closed at -4.5 and Ginebra didn't really dominate the game. They just came back after being down by double digits. The "never say die" attitude was on display once again, and it's a good thing C. Stand has a new trick up his sleeve. That mid-range jump shot was added and made him more deadly.

Also, Ahamnissi played great basketball. That was really good for Ginebra. However, I have a feeling that Game 6 will be Meralco's, and there will be a Game 7. In the Finals, it might be short, being dominated by SMB.

I never thought that my bet would still won because Ginebra played so lousy in the first half particularly in the second quarter, in fact i stop watching when the lead of the Bolts ballooned to double digits. Just got surprised when i saw the final score of 89-84 in favor of the Kings and the margin was enough to cover the spread.

Watched the highlights and yeah, CStand was amazing with his jumpshots but couldn't hit high percentage on his free throws hehe.
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That was really close for Ginebra backers as the spread closed at -4.5 and Ginebra didn't really dominate the game. They just came back after being down by double digits. The "never say die" attitude was on display once again, and it's a good thing C. Stand has a new trick up his sleeve. That mid-range jump shot was added and made him more deadly.

Also, Ahamnissi played great basketball. That was really good for Ginebra. However, I have a feeling that Game 6 will be Meralco's, and there will be a Game 7. In the Finals, it might be short, being dominated by SMB.

I never thought that my bet would still won because Ginebra played so lousy in the first half particularly in the second quarter, in fact i stop watching when the lead of the Bolts ballooned to double digits. Just got surprised when i saw the final score of 89-84 in favor of the Kings and the margin was enough to cover the spread.

Watched the highlights and yeah, CStand was amazing with his jumpshots but couldn't hit high percentage on his free throws hehe.

Most of the time when watching games and you've got some bets on it you lose interest when things seems not favoring your side, though it's really nice when the outcome brings you the win, hahaha, but kidding aside, it's something that you might think that Bolts already have that comfortable lead but Gin kings did not lose hope and with that good executions and defensive stop they manage to win and snatch the game and now leads from these series.

Again, Congrats kabayan!

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Watched the highlights and yeah, CStand was amazing with his jumpshots but couldn't hit high percentage on his free throws hehe.

C Stand has improve his game, he needed that mid range jumper so he can still get some points even not close to the paint. And yes, his problem really is the FT, it's very low, I think he should change his form as I believe that can be develop. In fact, I think Gobert was worst than him in terms of FT, but look at Gobert now, his FT percentage is very high, he knew how to do the right timing when throwing the ball. I hope to see C. Stand improve in the future as with his size and height, it would be easy for him to get fouled, so his FT is one of the best weapon.

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Watched the highlights and yeah, CStand was amazing with his jumpshots but couldn't hit high percentage on his free throws hehe.

C Stand has improve his game, he needed that mid range jumper so he can still get some points even not close to the paint. And yes, his problem really is the FT, it's very low, I think he should change his form as I believe that can be develop. In fact, I think Gobert was worst than him in terms of FT, but look at Gobert now, his FT percentage is very high, he knew how to do the right timing when throwing the ball. I hope to see C. Stand improve in the future as with his size and height, it would be easy for him to get fouled, so his FT is one of the best weapon.

It's Game 6 today. After two straight wins by the Gin Kings, I think it's time for the Meralco Bolts to bounce back and even the series. Game 7 this coming Friday would be fun since they can expect a big crowd, and of course, when there's a crowd, Ginebra is most likely to win the game.

Based on the current betting spread, Ginebra is -3.5, but I'll take the opposite side. Just in case the Wolves lose but the game is close, I think I'm still on the right side. The game will start at 7:30 PM, so we can definitely watch this game.

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May 29, 2024, 10:28:20 AM
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Watched the highlights and yeah, CStand was amazing with his jumpshots but couldn't hit high percentage on his free throws hehe.

C Stand has improve his game, he needed that mid range jumper so he can still get some points even not close to the paint. And yes, his problem really is the FT, it's very low, I think he should change his form as I believe that can be develop. In fact, I think Gobert was worst than him in terms of FT, but look at Gobert now, his FT percentage is very high, he knew how to do the right timing when throwing the ball. I hope to see C. Stand improve in the future as with his size and height, it would be easy for him to get fouled, so his FT is one of the best weapon.

It's Game 6 today. After two straight wins by the Gin Kings, I think it's time for the Meralco Bolts to bounce back and even the series. Game 7 this coming Friday would be fun since they can expect a big crowd, and of course, when there's a crowd, Ginebra is most likely to win the game.
I want a game 7 as well so I also think that Meralco will come up victorious. They did that in 2 straight games, I don't think they can't do it again in a do or die game. This is still a very physical game for sure, but the key factor for Meralco is Allen Maliksi, if he is shooting well outside, then they have the edge over Ginebra who are not really a good 3 point shooters.

Based on the current betting spread, Ginebra is -3.5, but I'll take the opposite side. Just in case the Wolves lose but the game is close, I think I'm still on the right side. The game will start at 7:30 PM, so we can definitely watch this game.

It has moved a bit, I saw it moved to -4.5 but it's back to -3.5 now. Not sure what is the indication of that but it looks like the line movement is telling us that Ginebra will win. The under/over is currently 177.5, it's a bit higher compared to their production in the last 2 games, but I feel it's going to be over as long as Meralco will dictate.

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Watched the highlights and yeah, CStand was amazing with his jumpshots but couldn't hit high percentage on his free throws hehe.

C Stand has improve his game, he needed that mid range jumper so he can still get some points even not close to the paint. And yes, his problem really is the FT, it's very low, I think he should change his form as I believe that can be develop. In fact, I think Gobert was worst than him in terms of FT, but look at Gobert now, his FT percentage is very high, he knew how to do the right timing when throwing the ball. I hope to see C. Stand improve in the future as with his size and height, it would be easy for him to get fouled, so his FT is one of the best weapon.

It's Game 6 today. After two straight wins by the Gin Kings, I think it's time for the Meralco Bolts to bounce back and even the series. Game 7 this coming Friday would be fun since they can expect a big crowd, and of course, when there's a crowd, Ginebra is most likely to win the game.

Based on the current betting spread, Ginebra is -3.5, but I'll take the opposite side. Just in case the Wolves lose but the game is close, I think I'm still on the right side. The game will start at 7:30 PM, so we can definitely watch this game.

It will be interesting if Gin kings loses game 6 and play again for the game 7 do-or-die match, though I have that feeling that they might push everything that they've got to win the game. It's a big risk if they give Bolts another chance as the team can snatch this series as how we watch the games previously, without the help of that loud voice of Al francis to the ref I think the series might be still in favor for the the Bolts, just kidding, but let see if what will happen for today's game, good luck to all those who already place their bets!

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It will be interesting if Gin kings loses game 6 and play again for the game 7 do-or-die match, though I have that feeling that they might push everything that they've got to win the game. It's a big risk if they give Bolts another chance as the team can snatch this series as how we watch the games previously, without the help of that loud voice of Al francis to the ref I think the series might be still in favor for the the Bolts, just kidding, but let see if what will happen for today's game, good luck to all those who already place their bets!
This is more like giving a PBA Finals feeling for me as the two teams are evenly matched. I also have a feeling that we might not see Ginebra vs. SMB in the Finals; it will be Meralco vs. SMB since they are not owned by the same company. The Bolts' defense has also improved, as they only allowed Ginebra to score 81 points. I think whoever gets into the PBA Finals and can limit SMB to scoring less than 90 points per game has a chance of winning, but if not, the opposite will happen.

Newsome struggled with his shooting but the clutch Free throws in the end that didn't give the Ginebra a chance to come back was huge, he didn't miss all 4 free throws so they keep the 2 position ball game within few seconds left only.

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May 29, 2024, 09:08:59 PM
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It will be interesting if Gin kings loses game 6 and play again for the game 7 do-or-die match, though I have that feeling that they might push everything that they've got to win the game. It's a big risk if they give Bolts another chance as the team can snatch this series as how we watch the games previously, without the help of that loud voice of Al francis to the ref I think the series might be still in favor for the the Bolts, just kidding, but let see if what will happen for today's game, good luck to all those who already place their bets!
This is more like giving a PBA Finals feeling for me as the two teams are evenly matched. I also have a feeling that we might not see Ginebra vs. SMB in the Finals; it will be Meralco vs. SMB since they are not owned by the same company. The Bolts' defense has also improved, as they only allowed Ginebra to score 81 points. I think whoever gets into the PBA Finals and can limit SMB to scoring less than 90 points per game has a chance of winning, but if not, the opposite will happen.

Newsome struggled with his shooting but the clutch Free throws in the end that didn't give the Ginebra a chance to come back was huge, he didn't miss all 4 free throws so they keep the 2 position ball game within few seconds left only.
We all know many want Ginebra to win, but for the sake of the league it’s better if Meralco will take over the spot and proceed to the finals. Meralco should do everything to win because they already have a good chance and getting back into the finals is a big thing. Meralco vs SMB in the finals can finally change the scenario in PBA, and I bet for this to happen.

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It will be interesting if Gin kings loses game 6 and play again for the game 7 do-or-die match, though I have that feeling that they might push everything that they've got to win the game. It's a big risk if they give Bolts another chance as the team can snatch this series as how we watch the games previously, without the help of that loud voice of Al francis to the ref I think the series might be still in favor for the the Bolts, just kidding, but let see if what will happen for today's game, good luck to all those who already place their bets!
This is more like giving a PBA Finals feeling for me as the two teams are evenly matched. I also have a feeling that we might not see Ginebra vs. SMB in the Finals; it will be Meralco vs. SMB since they are not owned by the same company. The Bolts' defense has also improved, as they only allowed Ginebra to score 81 points. I think whoever gets into the PBA Finals and can limit SMB to scoring less than 90 points per game has a chance of winning, but if not, the opposite will happen.

Newsome struggled with his shooting but the clutch Free throws in the end that didn't give the Ginebra a chance to come back was huge, he didn't miss all 4 free throws so they keep the 2 position ball game within few seconds left only.
We all know many want Ginebra to win, but for the sake of the league it’s better if Meralco will take over the spot and proceed to the finals. Meralco should do everything to win because they already have a good chance and getting back into the finals is a big thing. Meralco vs SMB in the finals can finally change the scenario in PBA, and I bet for this to happen.
We are gonna fade the public this time, I'm sure everyone will backing the Ginebra in game 7. Honestly, I find the move very risky because Ginebra does win a game 7 most of the time, but that was the time when Brownlee was playing, here it's all Filipino cup, I don't know if they can still make it but with the support of the crowd in a Friday night, they might demonstrate the never say die attitude, so it's quite risky. I think I'll just go with the total, probably under.

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May 29, 2024, 11:08:13 PM
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It will be interesting if Gin kings loses game 6 and play again for the game 7 do-or-die match, though I have that feeling that they might push everything that they've got to win the game. It's a big risk if they give Bolts another chance as the team can snatch this series as how we watch the games previously, without the help of that loud voice of Al francis to the ref I think the series might be still in favor for the the Bolts, just kidding, but let see if what will happen for today's game, good luck to all those who already place their bets!
This is more like giving a PBA Finals feeling for me as the two teams are evenly matched. I also have a feeling that we might not see Ginebra vs. SMB in the Finals; it will be Meralco vs. SMB since they are not owned by the same company. The Bolts' defense has also improved, as they only allowed Ginebra to score 81 points. I think whoever gets into the PBA Finals and can limit SMB to scoring less than 90 points per game has a chance of winning, but if not, the opposite will happen.

Newsome struggled with his shooting but the clutch Free throws in the end that didn't give the Ginebra a chance to come back was huge, he didn't miss all 4 free throws so they keep the 2 position ball game within few seconds left only.
We all know many want Ginebra to win, but for the sake of the league it’s better if Meralco will take over the spot and proceed to the finals. Meralco should do everything to win because they already have a good chance and getting back into the finals is a big thing. Meralco vs SMB in the finals can finally change the scenario in PBA, and I bet for this to happen.
We are gonna fade the public this time, I'm sure everyone will backing the Ginebra in game 7. Honestly, I find the move very risky because Ginebra does win a game 7 most of the time, but that was the time when Brownlee was playing, here it's all Filipino cup, I don't know if they can still make it but with the support of the crowd in a Friday night, they might demonstrate the never say die attitude, so it's quite risky. I think I'll just go with the total, probably under.

Yeah most of the time Gin kings shows that never say attitude as they'll do everything to win it for the crowd,  though I can smell something might be cooking behind, the chance of seeing Meralco to the finals might bring competition but in the other hand, without Gin kings in the finals chances that fans might not also gain that interest hahaha I'm torn between my manipulative speculation against the reality that Meralco also deserves it if ever they managed to upset the Gin kings, and same with you I'll also be looking for another alternative and not to go with who will win between these two competing teams.

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May 29, 2024, 11:48:22 PM
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We all know many want Ginebra to win, but for the sake of the league it’s better if Meralco will take over the spot and proceed to the finals. Meralco should do everything to win because they already have a good chance and getting back into the finals is a big thing. Meralco vs SMB in the finals can finally change the scenario in PBA, and I bet for this to happen.

Not to take away the credit to Meralco Bolts but yeah they deserve to play in the Finals after playing good offense and defense against Ginebra and i don't know how the people (PBS fans in particular) would react in case the Bolts will take the final seat in the Finals, will they watch the SMB vs Meralco series? On the other hand, even if the stadium will not be fully filled but at least we would not see an all-smc team battling for the trophy this all-Filipino Cup.
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