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Question: What team will win the PBA 2021 All Filipino Conference?
Barangay Ginebra - 15 (45.5%)
SMB - 7 (21.2%)
Magnolia Hotshots - 4 (12.1%)
Talk and Text - 6 (18.2%)
Phoenix Fuel Masters - 1 (3%)
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May 30, 2024, 07:53:33 AM
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We all know many want Ginebra to win, but for the sake of the league it’s better if Meralco will take over the spot and proceed to the finals. Meralco should do everything to win because they already have a good chance and getting back into the finals is a big thing. Meralco vs SMB in the finals can finally change the scenario in PBA, and I bet for this to happen.

Not to take away the credit to Meralco Bolts but yeah they deserve to play in the Finals after playing good offense and defense against Ginebra and i don't know how the people (PBS fans in particular) would react in case the Bolts will take the final seat in the Finals, will they watch the SMB vs Meralco series? On the other hand, even if the stadium will not be fully filled but at least we would not see an all-smc team battling for the trophy this all-Filipino Cup.

What do we see during the last PBA finals between SMB vs Magnolia? People are not watching, right? Then I guess it's automatic that Ginebra will advance in the Finals, so they can sell seats as Ginebra has a huge fan based. I guess I'm taking value in this game, if they like to make it more exciting, they'll give the first half to the Bolts and Ginebra in the 2nd half, if that will happen, I can be happy taking the odds now which I think over x5,, (meralco/ginebra).

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May 30, 2024, 08:07:47 AM
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We all know many want Ginebra to win, but for the sake of the league it’s better if Meralco will take over the spot and proceed to the finals. Meralco should do everything to win because they already have a good chance and getting back into the finals is a big thing. Meralco vs SMB in the finals can finally change the scenario in PBA, and I bet for this to happen.

Not to take away the credit to Meralco Bolts but yeah they deserve to play in the Finals after playing good offense and defense against Ginebra and i don't know how the people (PBS fans in particular) would react in case the Bolts will take the final seat in the Finals, will they watch the SMB vs Meralco series? On the other hand, even if the stadium will not be fully filled but at least we would not see an all-smc team battling for the trophy this all-Filipino Cup.

What do we see during the last PBA finals between SMB vs Magnolia? People are not watching, right? Then I guess it's automatic that Ginebra will advance in the Finals, so they can sell seats as Ginebra has a huge fan based. I guess I'm taking value in this game, if they like to make it more exciting, they'll give the first half to the Bolts and Ginebra in the 2nd half, if that will happen, I can be happy taking the odds now which I think over x5,, (meralco/ginebra).

I like the new strategy of the commissioner's of bring the semis out-of-town, they don't just rely on the MOA or Araneta Coliseum, that's a good start for me. If Meralco will win the series against Ginebra then they can bring the venue of the Finals elsewhere like game 1 will be held in Batangas then game will be in Cebu hehe, that way they can attract people to watch Finals game.

I don't think the odds will reach x5 either way (pre-live) as this match is almost even with bookies giving Ginebra the slight favorite of the match.

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May 30, 2024, 09:18:31 AM
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We all know many want Ginebra to win, but for the sake of the league it’s better if Meralco will take over the spot and proceed to the finals. Meralco should do everything to win because they already have a good chance and getting back into the finals is a big thing. Meralco vs SMB in the finals can finally change the scenario in PBA, and I bet for this to happen.

Not to take away the credit to Meralco Bolts but yeah they deserve to play in the Finals after playing good offense and defense against Ginebra and i don't know how the people (PBS fans in particular) would react in case the Bolts will take the final seat in the Finals, will they watch the SMB vs Meralco series? On the other hand, even if the stadium will not be fully filled but at least we would not see an all-smc team battling for the trophy this all-Filipino Cup.

What do we see during the last PBA finals between SMB vs Magnolia? People are not watching, right? Then I guess it's automatic that Ginebra will advance in the Finals, so they can sell seats as Ginebra has a huge fan based. I guess I'm taking value in this game, if they like to make it more exciting, they'll give the first half to the Bolts and Ginebra in the 2nd half, if that will happen, I can be happy taking the odds now which I think over x5,, (meralco/ginebra).

I like the new strategy of the commissioner's of bring the semis out-of-town, they don't just rely on the MOA or Araneta Coliseum, that's a good start for me. If Meralco will win the series against Ginebra then they can bring the venue of the Finals elsewhere like game 1 will be held in Batangas then game will be in Cebu hehe, that way they can attract people to watch Finals game.

I don't think the odds will reach x5 either way (pre-live) as this match is almost even with bookies giving Ginebra the slight favorite of the match.

They need  to do that since making those big games available for people on out of the town may get back their interest to watch what PBA could offer to them. Also if they stay on their old venues then maybe they will not get much better result as they know the number of people still watching PBA live is declining so maybe they will be in huge shame if they can see that there's less people watching while they are heading to semis.

But also let see what will be the odds of this since we are not really so sure about that. I maybe think about betting on Ginebra if I have time but to watch their game online but if not maybe I will pass on it and just wat for finals since I don't have much huge interest on PBA since I don't find it interesting compare before where a lot of teams are so competitive.

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May 30, 2024, 09:48:07 AM
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They need  to do that since making those big games available for people on out of the town may get back their interest to watch what PBA could offer to them. Also if they stay on their old venues then maybe they will not get much better result as they know the number of people still watching PBA live is declining so maybe they will be in huge shame if they can see that there's less people watching while they are heading to semis.

Yeah, they need to fnd ways to bring the interest of the fans, they can coordinate those games with politicians to sponsor the venue for sure it will bring decent exposures not just for the PBA itself but more for the politicians especially that the incoming election is nearing they will manifest for this kind of events, just sharing what I think will make someting possible for the league, we know by the fact that if there's organizers that will host the venues fans will be there and with how they doing now, they are bringing people to watch the live games and it makes it doable to have those old time and newcomers to have that support back for PBA.

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But also let see what will be the odds of this since we are not really so sure about that. I maybe think about betting on Ginebra if I have time but to watch their game online but if not maybe I will pass on it and just wat for finals since I don't have much huge interest on PBA since I don't find it interesting compare before where a lot of teams are so competitive.

Better to wait for the finals if you don't have that choice inside you, like you, my interest is no longer that much unlike before when real competitions are really being witness inside the court, sister teams mostly controlled by the owners, not just rumors but a reality that most fans doesn't like about the league.

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May 30, 2024, 11:04:41 AM
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Better to wait for the finals if you don't have that choice inside you, like you, my interest is no longer that much unlike before when real competitions are really being witness inside the court, sister teams mostly controlled by the owners, not just rumors but a reality that most fans doesn't like about the league.

Or hold it if we are not sure which team to beat. However, we can choose on the other alternatives like the total which is the under/over. I don't know if you will have fun just betting on the total but that's what I do when I can't choose on the teams that will play. This is game 7, if the last 3 games was very physical, I think it will be more in game 7 as it's the last game of the series, sort like championship game.

I think at this point we have to trust the team with the better coach, and obviously we are aware that Tim Cone is the better coach here, so trust this man as he brought us a championship in the Asian games.

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May 30, 2024, 12:01:10 PM
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I don't think the odds will reach x5 either way (pre-live) as this match is almost even with bookies giving Ginebra the slight favorite of the match.

It's a first half/2nd half bet. You can see the actual odds once it's all available in here https://duelbits.com/sportsbook/basketball/match/50436103-Bolts-vs-Barangay-Ginebra...

Other sportsbooks may also have that kind of odds, I don't know what sportsbook you are using but just try to check it out. I just found that kind of betting when there's a posted that shared it here before, I could not remember the name but I was kinda intrigued with the odds as it's very attractive.

For example tomorrow on the NBA Finals,
https://duelbits.com/sportsbook/basketball/match/49324737-Minnesota-Timberwolves-vs-Dallas-Mavericks

if I will choose a halftime/full time bet  with Minnesota/Dallas, that would be x 9.60.


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May 30, 2024, 12:11:49 PM
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Better to wait for the finals if you don't have that choice inside you, like you, my interest is no longer that much unlike before when real competitions are really being witness inside the court, sister teams mostly controlled by the owners, not just rumors but a reality that most fans doesn't like about the league.

Or hold it if we are not sure which team to beat. However, we can choose on the other alternatives like the total which is the under/over. I don't know if you will have fun just betting on the total but that's what I do when I can't choose on the teams that will play. This is game 7, if the last 3 games was very physical, I think it will be more in game 7 as it's the last game of the series, sort like championship game.

I think at this point we have to trust the team with the better coach, and obviously we are aware that Tim Cone is the better coach here, so trust this man as he brought us a championship in the Asian games.

Good point in that last statement, though even how good the coach it will be depends on how the squad will play the game, and like what you mentioned I also think that it will be more physical as how we are witnessing it from that last 3 previous games, Meralco manage to push the series to the final game 7 do-or-die, I guess that's something that fans will really love to watch as it's more on a championship type of a game compared to the finals that awaits, with SMB waiting to whoever will win from these series not to disrespect to whoever will win but the advantage of SMB squad is really by far.


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May 31, 2024, 07:35:59 AM
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Better to wait for the finals if you don't have that choice inside you, like you, my interest is no longer that much unlike before when real competitions are really being witness inside the court, sister teams mostly controlled by the owners, not just rumors but a reality that most fans doesn't like about the league.

Or hold it if we are not sure which team to beat. However, we can choose on the other alternatives like the total which is the under/over. I don't know if you will have fun just betting on the total but that's what I do when I can't choose on the teams that will play. This is game 7, if the last 3 games was very physical, I think it will be more in game 7 as it's the last game of the series, sort like championship game.

I think at this point we have to trust the team with the better coach, and obviously we are aware that Tim Cone is the better coach here, so trust this man as he brought us a championship in the Asian games.

Good point in that last statement, though even how good the coach it will be depends on how the squad will play the game, and like what you mentioned I also think that it will be more physical as how we are witnessing it from that last 3 previous games, Meralco manage to push the series to the final game 7 do-or-die, I guess that's something that fans will really love to watch as it's more on a championship type of a game compared to the finals that awaits, with SMB waiting to whoever will win from these series not to disrespect to whoever will win but the advantage of SMB squad is really by far.

That's a fair assessment, SMB really has a huge advantage to either of the teams playing in the semis. I guess that's the result of building a super team, the thrill in the game is lost because one team is too strong that can even sweep their opponent easily. I think the job here to make the Finals more exciting does not rely on the players or coach, it's on the refs, if you know what I'm saying.

By the way, just a little update on the point spread now.

Line is push to -4.5 from -3.5 for Ginebra and the total is now 173.5.

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May 31, 2024, 07:37:30 AM
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They need  to do that since making those big games available for people on out of the town may get back their interest to watch what PBA could offer to them. Also if they stay on their old venues then maybe they will not get much better result as they know the number of people still watching PBA live is declining so maybe they will be in huge shame if they can see that there's less people watching while they are heading to semis.

Yeah, they need to fnd ways to bring the interest of the fans, they can coordinate those games with politicians to sponsor the venue for sure it will bring decent exposures not just for the PBA itself but more for the politicians especially that the incoming election is nearing they will manifest for this kind of events, just sharing what I think will make someting possible for the league, we know by the fact that if there's organizers that will host the venues fans will be there and with how they doing now, they are bringing people to watch the live games and it makes it doable to have those old time and newcomers to have that support back for PBA.

They really don't have other choice but to do that since nothing will happen on a dying league if they will not out source it to other towns and its good that they think about this since for sure there would be a lot of gate attendance on the venue since even if we see that no one watching in their traditional venues still there are people who's willing to see their favorite player on those provinces. But I don't know if they can sustain this since what I think this will not give a long term solution in their drought. If the competition of PBA will still the same then maybe there would be a time that even if they do a out of town game again no one will watch them.


But also let see what will be the odds of this since we are not really so sure about that. I maybe think about betting on Ginebra if I have time but to watch their game online but if not maybe I will pass on it and just wat for finals since I don't have much huge interest on PBA since I don't find it interesting compare before where a lot of teams are so competitive.

Better to wait for the finals if you don't have that choice inside you, like you, my interest is no longer that much unlike before when real competitions are really being witness inside the court, sister teams mostly controlled by the owners, not just rumors but a reality that most fans doesn't like about the league.

Yeah I'm trying to watch how things will go with them on finals but if it happens that sister teams will face off then same as before I will still gonna pass this since we all know that this will be another scripted match.

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May 31, 2024, 08:22:09 AM
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Yeah I'm trying to watch how things will go with them on finals but if it happens that sister teams will face off then same as before I will still gonna pass this since we all know that this will be another scripted match.

Don't bet on Ginebra then so that sister team will not play anymore. Since it does look like everyone is riding on the Ginebra hype in game 7, I think I will have to go the other side which is the Bolts. I'm thinking if this will be a close game, I have a chance of winning taking the +4.5 spread.

By the way guys, I was only watching in facebook live but sometimes streams are getting take down, so I search some site and I found this one I like to share. You can watch the game uninterrupted here - https://pbarecap.ph/pba-live/


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May 31, 2024, 11:29:04 AM
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Yeah I'm trying to watch how things will go with them on finals but if it happens that sister teams will face off then same as before I will still gonna pass this since we all know that this will be another scripted match.

Don't bet on Ginebra then so that sister team will not play anymore. Since it does look like everyone is riding on the Ginebra hype in game 7, I think I will have to go the other side which is the Bolts. I'm thinking if this will be a close game, I have a chance of winning taking the +4.5 spread.

By the way guys, I was only watching in facebook live but sometimes streams are getting take down, so I search some site and I found this one I like to share. You can watch the game uninterrupted here - https://pbarecap.ph/pba-live/

I'm betting for the Bolts pre-game as i would not want to see an all-smc teams in the finals hehe.

By the way, thanks for sharing the link, it is working fine in my laptop. Is this the official streaming site of the PBA or this will be taken down after this game?

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May 31, 2024, 11:52:01 AM
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Yeah I'm trying to watch how things will go with them on finals but if it happens that sister teams will face off then same as before I will still gonna pass this since we all know that this will be another scripted match.

Don't bet on Ginebra then so that sister team will not play anymore. Since it does look like everyone is riding on the Ginebra hype in game 7, I think I will have to go the other side which is the Bolts. I'm thinking if this will be a close game, I have a chance of winning taking the +4.5 spread.

By the way guys, I was only watching in facebook live but sometimes streams are getting take down, so I search some site and I found this one I like to share. You can watch the game uninterrupted here - https://pbarecap.ph/pba-live/



Just like what mentioned on the post above you, if ever Gin kings will climb up and be the one to play for the finals, I go with that script but what's written in that script will be depends from how gamblers will place their bets, it's been a rumors before and still continue as rumor but with how the results comes up and there's doubt about what happened, then it's on you to take if you'll going to believe, moving back to this game 7 might be possible also that a close game again and taking that handicap in case Gin kings win is very possible to take place.

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May 31, 2024, 12:33:22 PM
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Yeah I'm trying to watch how things will go with them on finals but if it happens that sister teams will face off then same as before I will still gonna pass this since we all know that this will be another scripted match.

Don't bet on Ginebra then so that sister team will not play anymore. Since it does look like everyone is riding on the Ginebra hype in game 7, I think I will have to go the other side which is the Bolts. I'm thinking if this will be a close game, I have a chance of winning taking the +4.5 spread.

By the way guys, I was only watching in facebook live but sometimes streams are getting take down, so I search some site and I found this one I like to share. You can watch the game uninterrupted here - https://pbarecap.ph/pba-live/

I'm betting for the Bolts pre-game as i would not want to see an all-smc teams in the finals hehe.

By the way, thanks for sharing the link, it is working fine in my laptop. Is this the official streaming site of the PBA or this will be taken down after this game?

I've been using that link for days already. I saw it when a facebook streamer use it for his stream, I thought all of their streams came from pilipinaslive.com where they have to pay monthly, so i tried to search in google luckily it's available and working fine. By the way, congrats on the Bolts, they are now leading by 5 points at the half. I like this one since it's out of town game, they aren't too familiar so the shooting will be more lower, after the first half, they are just combined with 67 points, I think they'll beat their low scoring game in game 6 with a lower total production for both teams.

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May 31, 2024, 01:59:07 PM
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I'm betting for the Bolts pre-game as i would not want to see an all-smc teams in the finals hehe.


Just right on the money mate. Meralco beat Ginebra with the final score of 78-69, just a total of 147 points combined, so the under also won it. Meralco are just too much for Ginebra in this game, and Ginebra looks tired with their short rotation, so Meralco deserved this win.

I'm very much impress with this rokie Brandon Matthew Bates, he was a big problem for Ginebra inside as he is a hard working big man, he grabbed offensive rebounds and he block shots. Though not really a good scorer and a FT shooter, but his presence on the floor was really big.

Now we are set, it's Meralco vs SMB in the Finals, how long this series will go, what do you think?


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I'm betting for the Bolts pre-game as i would not want to see an all-smc teams in the finals hehe.


Just right on the money mate. Meralco beat Ginebra with the final score of 78-69, just a total of 147 points combined, so the under also won it. Meralco are just too much for Ginebra in this game, and Ginebra looks tired with their short rotation, so Meralco deserved this win.

It's good to have a different teams fighting for the title this conference and at least the rumor of having a scripted match will be lessen.
They already have the schedules for the finals and hope to watch the live games and also have some bet. With the consistency of Meralco this season, I think they are more prepared to get the title but that will not be easy as SMB are also eager to get another trophy on their collections.

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May 31, 2024, 09:54:07 PM
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I'm betting for the Bolts pre-game as i would not want to see an all-smc teams in the finals hehe.


Just right on the money mate. Meralco beat Ginebra with the final score of 78-69, just a total of 147 points combined, so the under also won it. Meralco are just too much for Ginebra in this game, and Ginebra looks tired with their short rotation, so Meralco deserved this win.

It's good to have a different teams fighting for the title this conference and at least the rumor of having a scripted match will be lessen.
They already have the schedules for the finals and hope to watch the live games and also have some bet. With the consistency of Meralco this season, I think they are more prepared to get the title but that will not be easy as SMB are also eager to get another trophy on their collections.

Tough series again for Meralco after beating the Gin kings in a final game 7 series,  compared with Gin Kings, SMB is more quicker and they've got deeper inside protected, though we've seen how consistent Meralco was and how competitive they are and again they will be tested, it's the final so for sure there are many fans and bettors that will monitor this series and not to be biased I do see that SMB will win, JMF will again be the big difference and still the powerhouse support from all the stars from the lineup..

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May 31, 2024, 10:29:29 PM
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I thought that it is going to be Ginebra Ginkings and SMB Beermen, as always sister companies. But this time, we've got Meralco in the finals against the Beermen. Game 1 will be on June 5, Wednesday and it is going to be in the Smart Araneta Coliseum. I want to watch but it seems that there's a hectic schedule on my end and I hope that they allow some games on some other days of the weekdays because Wednesday and Friday won't do for me. But they won't do that just because I want to.  Tongue
Is everyone going to go with Beermen for the championship?

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June 01, 2024, 12:18:16 AM
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I'm betting for the Bolts pre-game as i would not want to see an all-smc teams in the finals hehe.


Just right on the money mate. Meralco beat Ginebra with the final score of 78-69, just a total of 147 points combined, so the under also won it. Meralco are just too much for Ginebra in this game, and Ginebra looks tired with their short rotation, so Meralco deserved this win.

I'm very much impress with this rokie Brandon Matthew Bates, he was a big problem for Ginebra inside as he is a hard working big man, he grabbed offensive rebounds and he block shots. Though not really a good scorer and a FT shooter, but his presence on the floor was really big.

Now we are set, it's Meralco vs SMB in the Finals, how long this series will go, what do you think?

Just lucky that i betted for the Bolts because seeing how Ginebra struggled with its jumpers and free throws, i thought throwing a few dollars on the Bolts is the way to go hehe.

Now, against the experienced Beermen, i think that the Bolts will struggle as no one in their team is capable of guarding Junemar Fajardo 1-on-1, they have to double him everytime he gets the ball down low and somebody in the perimeter will be open.

My fearless forecast is that this will still be a Beermen show, the only question here is how long the series will go.

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June 01, 2024, 06:07:39 AM
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I'm betting for the Bolts pre-game as i would not want to see an all-smc teams in the finals hehe.


Just right on the money mate. Meralco beat Ginebra with the final score of 78-69, just a total of 147 points combined, so the under also won it. Meralco are just too much for Ginebra in this game, and Ginebra looks tired with their short rotation, so Meralco deserved this win.

I'm very much impress with this rokie Brandon Matthew Bates, he was a big problem for Ginebra inside as he is a hard working big man, he grabbed offensive rebounds and he block shots. Though not really a good scorer and a FT shooter, but his presence on the floor was really big.

Now we are set, it's Meralco vs SMB in the Finals, how long this series will go, what do you think?

Just lucky that i betted for the Bolts because seeing how Ginebra struggled with its jumpers and free throws, i thought throwing a few dollars on the Bolts is the way to go hehe.

Now, against the experienced Beermen, i think that the Bolts will struggle as no one in their team is capable of guarding Junemar Fajardo 1-on-1, they have to double him everytime he gets the ball down low and somebody in the perimeter will be open.

My fearless forecast is that this will still be a Beermen show, the only question here is how long the series will go.

We are all betting in SMB here as obviously the defense of Meralco won't work against a team that are very confident with theour outside shooting. Although they have a big man that showed up in the game 7 which is Bates, but he is just a rookie, he can't guard JMF in the paint who is bigger than him.

I don't know yet the betting spread in game one but it's like be -5.5 for the SMB and I will gladly take it. Actually, Meralco only won that series because Ginebra is undermanned, no Grey and Malonzo who are both great outside shooters, but now Meralco will be facing a healthy SMB which is a better team that Ginebra.

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June 01, 2024, 09:51:32 AM
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I don't know yet the betting spread in game one but it's like be -5.5 for the SMB and I will gladly take it. Actually, Meralco only won that series because Ginebra is undermanned, no Grey and Malonzo who are both great outside shooters, but now Meralco will be facing a healthy SMB which is a better team that Ginebra.

Because the game 1 is on June 5, so it's too early to expect for the odds. Just relax a bit, I understand the urge to bet but just like the NBA, they also have a break to rest and be fully ready in the Finals. By the way, anyone here interested to bet with my, I'm betting on the SMB and will be giving a spread of -2.5 for my team. Just DM me if anyone is interested here.

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