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Question: 2023/2024 La Liga Champion will be
Barcelona - 29 (23.6%)
Real Madrid - 83 (67.5%)
Atletico Madrid - 1 (0.8%)
Sevilla - 0 (0%)
Valencia - 1 (0.8%)
Villareal - 0 (0%)
Real Sociedad - 0 (0%)
Other - 9 (7.3%)
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July 08, 2023, 01:42:35 AM
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I am happy for this kid,  he came from playing at the top and fulfilled his dream by joining Fenerbahçe, then moving on to the world-renowned Real Madrid. He climbed towards his goal at a young age, and that's truly commendable. His talent is something unreal, technically an extraordinary and fantastic player. I am also happy for him because he has Modric in his corner. We may actually be looking at the future best Attacking midfielder the world has ever seen.
I still remember Real Madrid really wasting some of its young talent a few seasons ago. Martin Ødegaard is one of the players I'm talking about, he has grown into a really great midfielder at Arsenal while Real Madrid failed to develop his great skills. The same thing is still very likely to happen to Arda Güler, he is still very young and may not find himself in the Real Madrid first team any time soon.

Several young players were brought in for business reasons, it was a profitable business strategy in several big teams like Real Madrid and several others. So please don't get your hopes up too much before Arda Güler has won a place in the first team.
Odegaard has indeed grown in Arsenal as an important player but with Arda Güler's arrival to Real Madrid is indeed a long term investment, I know he will not get a place for the first in the next season may be more adapting and adjust to his new coach, if Arda Güler's skil has shown good talent in Real Madrid so he can get a place in the main squad even though the age is still very young.

I know recruiting young players who already have more talent in the recruitment of a big team they can expect him to grow and can be sold at high prices in the future, so I will never say Arda Güler will be immediately popular in Real Madrid he will definitely be many on the bench.

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July 08, 2023, 01:45:56 AM
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Xavi Hernandez deserves some accolades for a good job at camp nou. Barcelona outscored their main rival, Real Madrid, by an extensive margin. They have another opportunity to be consistent in their league games for the purpose to demonstrate that they are ready to compete against other outstanding clubs in top competitions. Xavi Hernandez did an excellent job for Barcelona the previous season, signing potential players capable of strengthening the club's competitiveness. The blaugrana have performed admirably in all rounds of competition, but the UEFA Champions League remains elusive to them.

The next season gonna be a hard season for barcelona. Barcelona's performance was so impressive last season but the problem if club is now still looking for some players. Barcelona and xavi have not yet gotten replacement for busquet.
I think that if this gonna be a very difficult task for all of them. Barcelona got gundogan but he is not enough to bring the club into the top again.

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July 08, 2023, 06:59:30 AM
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I am happy for this kid,  he came from playing at the top and fulfilled his dream by joining Fenerbahçe, then moving on to the world-renowned Real Madrid. He climbed towards his goal at a young age, and that's truly commendable. His talent is something unreal, technically an extraordinary and fantastic player. I am also happy for him because he has Modric in his corner. We may actually be looking at the future best Attacking midfielder the world has ever seen.
I still remember Real Madrid really wasting some of its young talent a few seasons ago. Martin Ødegaard is one of the players I'm talking about, he has grown into a really great midfielder at Arsenal while Real Madrid failed to develop his great skills. The same thing is still very likely to happen to Arda Güler, he is still very young and may not find himself in the Real Madrid first team any time soon.

Several young players were brought in for business reasons, it was a profitable business strategy in several big teams like Real Madrid and several others. So please don't get your hopes up too much before Arda Güler has won a place in the first team.
Real Madrid is team with full of star players and only the best players who can able to playing with them so those who cannot performing well will never gets one place in Madrid starting lineup and i think the problem is not Madrid but i think to the player himself because if the young players shows very good progress then Madrid are more likely will include them in the starting lineup but indeed Madrid has bought plenty of young players previously but mostly those players were failed to impress and eventually they have been sold to other clubs

But not all young players who bought by Madrid were failed to gets the opportunity to play and the one who can prove that he really deserves to play for Madrid is Vinicius Jr that he was bought from Flamengo when he was 18 years old and since arrived to Madrid he has showing good progress and this make Ancelotti trust him to playing regularly last season and for Arda Güler he has a tough job because he has to earn Ancelotti's trust

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July 08, 2023, 07:35:52 AM
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There are a great deal teams to keep an eye on next season; we just need to take our time making reasonable predictions about their fates. Real Madrid and Barcelona are unquestionably among the clubs that ought to perform more effectively; they are always first or second on the La Liga table. Sevilla is one of the underestimated clubs. I know Nervionenses doesn't focus their emphasis on La Liga, but rather on the Europa League, which they don't dismiss altogether, and they are considered an excellent competitive team in the Europa League.
I know Real Madrid and Barcelona are going after the best  in the market,  no doubt about. Some of the transfer news we may be hearing concerning them not yet confirmed, but  I'm very sure they are still  going after the best against next season, because how real madrid and Barcelona go after good players,  it is always hard to predict by this  time to know which team will come first. Next season will be very interesting and Real Madrid is  coming up with the strong squad not to  lose trophies like they did this season,  and Barcelona will also want to form a strong squad too knowing how tough Real Madrid is.

The president of Barcelona was very positive about the future regarding the financial problems as he said they are in talks with some huge sponsors or investor. I think it was sponsors, but he is confident that they can attack the top of the soccer rankings again also internationally in the near future or maybe in the coming season already. Maybe they are not finished yet and are still looking for more improvements besides their Gundogan transfer. I think players like him and Lewandowski are also pushing for further players because they want to win trophies at the end of their career. But still, I don't think Barcelona is already able to pull off mega transfers. Consolidation is probably still their number one goal.
With Barcelona's performance in the just concluded season, we can say with confidence that Barcelona will perform well in the coming season, and if they could get more investors that will pump in money so that the club can sign new players in the current transfer market and even also because new players onboard will deliver the club their desired position in the la Liga.

Barcelona came close to topping the league in the last season and for this coming season if Real Madrid didn't stand well they may lose it to Barcelona.


There are plenty of examples where the performance of last season is not a good indicator for the next season. Who would have thought that Liverpool would ever collapse like that and even miss the Champions League? They recovered quite a bit towards the end of the season, but last season doesn't matter. If it was true what you are saying, what about Real Madrid who became the champion with 13 points ahead of Barcelona prior to last season? This really depends on how new players get integrated, whether the core of the team stays healthy or gets injured and so on and so forth.

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July 08, 2023, 08:48:40 AM
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I don't think Real Madrid will continue to have that much problem in the La Liga this season as well. Every big team have this kind of seasons in which they can't be competitive enough for the league title. I will be expecting Real Madrid to pull themselves together and be better this time. They are even on the verge of bringing Mbappe to the team.

In case he comes here this summer Barcelona had better be ready for an extra challenging season against Real Madrid.  Grin  I don't think Mbappe would have any issues with adaptation here. Both team like to play a fast game and Vinicius - Mbappe can be a great duo in the attacking line after Benzema has left.

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July 08, 2023, 09:24:33 AM
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There are plenty of examples where the performance of last season is not a good indicator for the next season. Who would have thought that Liverpool would ever collapse like that and even miss the Champions League? They recovered quite a bit towards the end of the season, but last season doesn't matter. If it was true what you are saying, what about Real Madrid who became the champion with 13 points ahead of Barcelona prior to last season? This really depends on how new players get integrated, whether the core of the team stays healthy or gets injured and so on and so forth.

I also share your view, last season performance will not serve as criteria for the next season. Another typical example is the case of Chelsea. The Blues spend close to $500m to get new quality players and most people expected that at least they will be able to make it to the top four in the Premiership. It turned out to be the opposite because Chelsea ended up in 12th place. Chelsea had so many issues with new players integrating with the team. The team that finished 13th last season might end up winning the league next season.

I don't think Real Madrid will continue to have that much problem in the La Liga this season as well. Every big team have this kind of seasons in which they can't be competitive enough for the league title. I will be expecting Real Madrid to pull themselves together and be better this time. They are even on the verge of bringing Mbappe to the team.

In case he comes here this summer Barcelona had better be ready for an extra challenging season against Real Madrid.  Grin  I don't think Mbappe would have any issues with adaptation here. Both team like to play a fast game and Vinicius - Mbappe can be a great duo in the attacking line after Benzema has left.

For now, the future of Mbappe is uncertain. He has refused to extend his contract which will end next year. And the club management has given him an ultimatum to renew his contract or he would be sold to the highest bidder. Mbappe who is currently enjoying a good time in his home country Cameroon wants to leave PSG next season as a free agent. Real Madrid is his possible destination but for now, nothing is certain. He is a good striker but sometimes has unhealthy relationships with his teammates. Sometimes he acts selfish and wants to get all the goals and attention. I hope he blends with young teammates like Vinicius Junior, Rodrygo, and Arda Guler.

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July 08, 2023, 10:00:56 AM
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I still remember Real Madrid really wasting some of its young talent a few seasons ago. Martin Ødegaard is one of the players I'm talking about, he has grown into a really great midfielder at Arsenal while Real Madrid failed to develop his great skills. The same thing is still very likely to happen to Arda Güler, he is still very young and may not find himself in the Real Madrid first team any time soon.

Several young players were brought in for business reasons, it was a profitable business strategy in several big teams like Real Madrid and several others. So please don't get your hopes up too much before Arda Güler has won a place in the first team.
Martin Ødegaard has quit well performance after joining with Arsenal and Mikel Arteta trust him as captain teams, but Real Madrid waste his talent and difficulty breaking into the main squad even Martin Ødegaard had to borrow several times to other clubs. I don't think with Real Madrid waste talent from Martin Ødegaard but he come on Santiago Bernabéu stadium wrong time, since arrive there Real Madrid has many solid midfielder are on the top perform and made Ødegaard can't get minutes playing.

For Arda Guler looks promising because he come when Real Madrid midfielder have been over age and get bigger chance to be main players, but in this season looks little difficult because Modric, Kroos still favorite players for Carlo Ancelotti and Guler need waiting right time to be main player in Real Madrid.

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July 08, 2023, 10:13:59 AM
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For now, the future of Mbappe is uncertain. He has refused to extend his contract which will end next year. And the club management has given him an ultimatum to renew his contract or he would be sold to the highest bidder. Mbappe who is currently enjoying a good time in his home country Cameroon wants to leave PSG next season as a free agent. Real Madrid is his possible destination but for now, nothing is certain. He is a good striker but sometimes has unhealthy relationships with his teammates. Sometimes he acts selfish and wants to get all the goals and attention. I hope he blends with young teammates like Vinicius Junior, Rodrygo, and Arda Guler.

There is a lot of hype around Mbappe now, it seems that he is selfish not only on the field but also in relation to his bosses, since PSG clearly did not like the desire to leave the club as a free agent next year, and they are already accusing Mbappe of some kind of intrigue, due to negotiations with Real Madrid , who of course would like to get such a player as a free agent. This attitude on the part of Mpabbe will certainly change the way they approach him in teams, because in fact he puts financial interest above all else, but I think he already has enough money to spoil the relationship because of this.

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July 08, 2023, 10:36:33 AM
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I don't think Real Madrid will continue to have that much problem in the La Liga this season as well. Every big team have this kind of seasons in which they can't be competitive enough for the league title. I will be expecting Real Madrid to pull themselves together and be better this time. They are even on the verge of bringing Mbappe to the team.

In case he comes here this summer Barcelona had better be ready for an extra challenging season against Real Madrid.  Grin  I don't think Mbappe would have any issues with adaptation here. Both team like to play a fast game and Vinicius - Mbappe can be a great duo in the attacking line after Benzema has left.
Next season will be a proof that Real Madrid will be able to win back the La Liga title from Barcelona and with the depth of squad that Real Madrid has now, of course it will begin to threaten the throne previously won by Barcelona. If Real Madrid manages to get Mbappe in the summer, of course we will see a fast counter attack led by Fran Garcia, Valverde, Rodrygo, Vini and Mbappe.

How terrible if that really happened and for any defender it would be very difficult to keep up with the player's speed. But indeed everything is still uncertain, but if Mbappe does not join Real Madrid this season then we will see that fast counter attack.

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Risks must be taken, I actually don't know this player, but after I saw footage of him playing, I think this player has the potential to become a famous player in the future.
As a young player, I agree with you that he will most likely not develop and so on which will make him a player who ultimately does not continue his shine. But that can be overcome as long as he can work hard.
I believe that there are players who already have talent from birth, and there are players who create their talent through hard work.

Not many people know about this player he only plays in the Turkey League with Fenerbahce, what makes me curious is at the age of 18 he managed to take place in Turkey main squad even scored one goal in 4 matches so I understand why Real Madrid brought it with a transfer fee of 20 million. Real Madrid was lucky to bring him because last season  Arda Guler was the target of Barcelona and AC Milan even Barcelona almost reached an agreement with 17 million but failed because of the regulations related to the player's salary.

I will not deny if you doubt the future of this player because we know that Madrid is not a team that usually gives rise to new talents except Vinicius Junior, they prefer to bring players who are ready to fight but this time let them try it or maybe another option is loaned like Brahim Diaz loaned to AC Milan last season.
Now we just need to see how the youngster adapts to Madrid because at his age and with his confidence, he could be a good alternative for Madrid in the future and of course if he develops, he will be another asset for Madrid in addition to other youngsters like Valverde, Vini and Rodrygo.
Doubts remain at his age and there have not been any matches for him in Madrid but in this case when he makes a good contribution when he is given the opportunity then indeed the judgement about the doubts may change.

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July 08, 2023, 11:06:50 AM
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This is an excellent signing by Real Madrid; the Spanish club definitely understands how to be a Galacticos with the way they reshape, rebuild and also strengthen their squad players through out different cycle. Slowly but surely; Real Madrid has assembled a very young squad of excellent and technical geniuses.

With a search for a striker ongoing; and a new coach soon; i just Real Madrid to resume their dominance again!
I am happy for this kid,  he came from playing at the top and fulfilled his dream by joining Fenerbahçe, then moving on to the world-renowned Real Madrid. He climbed towards his goal at a young age, and that's truly commendable. His talent is something unreal, technically an extraordinary and fantastic player. I am also happy for him because he has Modric in his corner. We may actually be looking at the future best Attacking midfielder the world has ever seen.

If he gets the chance to play enough, I'm sure he will be very successful. This kid just needs experience, the whole world thinks the same about how talented he is. We may be watching one of the brightest players of the future. I hope he doesn't suffer any injuries and can perform well at Real Madrid, I'm sure we'll hear a lot more about him in the years to come Smiley

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July 08, 2023, 11:41:23 AM
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I know recruiting young players who already have more talent in the recruitment of a big team they can expect him to grow and can be sold at high prices in the future, so I will never say Arda Güler will be immediately popular in Real Madrid he will definitely be many on the bench.

I think he will not become a business object. I think Madrid's goal is for achievement. Let's see, he is still quite young. Real Madrid made a bet by buying this young player. I wish he wasn't like Kubo. Maybe the same from Asia Guler has better posture. I hope he can perform optimally and be ready for a long-term Madrid project. Hopefully he can adapt well, doesn't become a failed transfer. Maybe the hope is he is better than Benzema.

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July 08, 2023, 11:53:19 AM
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I think he will not become a business object. I think Madrid's goal is for achievement. Let's see, he is still quite young. Real Madrid made a bet by buying this young player. I wish he wasn't like Kubo. Maybe the same from Asia Guler has better posture. I hope he can perform optimally and be ready for a long-term Madrid project. Hopefully he can adapt well, doesn't become a failed transfer. Maybe the hope is he is better than Benzema.
Man, he's not even a pure striker, it's not possible to compare him with Benzema. He's a right midfielder player, I think he's the next Valverde because he's flexible, he have a good pass and he know to find the right moment. Yeah Kubo was a failed transfer by Real Madrid, but it seems no problem for them because every club ever done wrong sign a player. Signing a young player is risky, he could develop become a great player or a nothing.

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July 08, 2023, 11:55:11 AM
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Now we just need to see how the youngster adapts to Madrid because at his age and with his confidence, he could be a good alternative for Madrid in the future and of course if he develops, he will be another asset for Madrid in addition to other youngsters like Valverde, Vini and Rodrygo.
Doubts remain at his age and there have not been any matches for him in Madrid but in this case when he makes a good contribution when he is given the opportunity then indeed the judgement about the doubts may change.
we must not doubt the young players who have just been brought in by Real Madrid and we must always want that there are very many young players who have talent, it's just that they don't have experience and this is the best choice to combine young players with old players to give each other a positive contribution. good and give each other the spirit of experience to be able to dominate in La Liga in the summer.

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July 08, 2023, 12:55:30 PM
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Now we just need to see how the youngster adapts to Madrid because at his age and with his confidence, he could be a good alternative for Madrid in the future and of course if he develops, he will be another asset for Madrid in addition to other youngsters like Valverde, Vini and Rodrygo.
Doubts remain at his age and there have not been any matches for him in Madrid but in this case when he makes a good contribution when he is given the opportunity then indeed the judgement about the doubts may change.
we must not doubt the young players who have just been brought in by Real Madrid and we must always want that there are very many young players who have talent, it's just that they don't have experience and this is the best choice to combine young players with old players to give each other a positive contribution. good and give each other the spirit of experience to be able to dominate in La Liga in the summer.
If I don't want to be doubted then I can't help but be underestimated, Arda Guller and Madrid must prove that their choice is very correct.
Actually there is no mistake and certainly every club expects talented young players but a really good fit and adaptation must still be seen because even though the potential is high but when there is no proof then this is also difficult to convince, right.
We can not only see the positive side when a potential young player comes in but also have to see some other conditions and the worst possibilities.
It would be great if it was like Valverde, Vini or Rodrygo in terms of performance but if it ends up being like Mariano then indeed this will also be very difficult for Madrid, Isnt it?

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I still remember Real Madrid really wasting some of its young talent a few seasons ago. Martin Ødegaard is one of the players I'm talking about, he has grown into a really great midfielder at Arsenal while Real Madrid failed to develop his great skills. 

Everyone says this about Martin Ødegaard but then this is not Real Madrid fault haha; Martin Ødegaard wasn't cut out to succeed at Real Madrid and thats just it. Infact, no midfielder in the entire world would displace Kroos, Modric and Casemiro from the Real Madrid line up in those amazing 5 years when Real Madrid won 4 champions league titles.

Instead it was Martin Ødegaard who wasn't cut out to compete for game time against those stars; for example, Camavinga despite his young age competed for games and got good performance in the champions league quarters and semi finals, what did Martin Ødegaard did in his chances? he flopped. In the end, i am happy for Martin Ødegaard career turn in London with Arsenal.

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After ending his contract with PSG, Real Madrid is a very reasonable place for Mbappe to train and shine. He's talented, he's young. It's a waste to stay at PSG. I think Real Madrid will be the place to train him to become a killer goalscorer like Ronaldo. He is lacking good teachers, a professional training environment, and high discipline. Real Madrid do a great job in that regard.
The question is whether Real Madrid will still want to buy him when they already have Vinicius Junior and Rodrygo.

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July 08, 2023, 02:16:36 PM
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After ending his contract with PSG, Real Madrid is a very reasonable place for Mbappe to train and shine. He's talented, he's young. It's a waste to stay at PSG. I think Real Madrid will be the place to train him to become a killer goalscorer like Ronaldo. He is lacking good teachers, a professional training environment, and high discipline. Real Madrid do a great job in that regard.
The question is whether Real Madrid will still want to buy him when they already have Vinicius Junior and Rodrygo.
That's not the case, Vini and Rodygo are open to Mbappe, it's just that PSG won't let that happen until Mbappe has given up on being sold or extending his contract. For Mbappe, now feels the risk because he used to play with Madrid's feelings and decided to extend his contract, but after the transfer season opened he tried to trick PSG by saying he wanted to finish the contract and wanted to leave for free, precisely this is where PSG's role is to continue to curb Mbappe freedom.

So I finally understood the consequences that befell Mbappe from his own decisions last season. So, Madrid was willing to buy it from PSG, but gradually the price continued to rise until it exceeded Madrid budget limit for this season's expenses. Like it or not, I don't think Mbappe can move freely.

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There are plenty of examples where the performance of last season is not a good indicator for the next season. Who would have thought that Liverpool would ever collapse like that and even miss the Champions League? They recovered quite a bit towards the end of the season, but last season doesn't matter. If it was true what you are saying, what about Real Madrid who became the champion with 13 points ahead of Barcelona prior to last season? This really depends on how new players get integrated, whether the core of the team stays healthy or gets injured and so on and so forth.
Of course every season will always be different, a strong team will maintain its performance while a team that is down will struggle to get up and everything is possible to happen, it is impossible for a team to always be on top and vice versa.
In La Liga competition often occurs between Real Madrid and Barcelona and these two teams take turns to beat each other, so last season cannot be a benchmark that it will be the same again in the following season.
Barcelona and Real Madrid are arch rivals in La Liga. A Barcelona vs Real Madrid match means a different kind of excitement. If Real Madrid wins the league title in any season, Barcelona wins the league title in the next season. Fans of each team are as happy to win against each other as they are to win the Champions League. When Messi, Neymar, Ronaldo, Sergio Ramos were in La Liga, La Liga was one of the best leagues in Europe. The popularity of this league has decreased somewhat as most of the star players have left for other leagues. Although the popularity of this league has decreased relatively, people still look forward to watch the rivalry between Barcelona and Real Madrid.

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July 08, 2023, 02:26:25 PM
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I think he will not become a business object. I think Madrid's goal is for achievement. Let's see, he is still quite young. Real Madrid made a bet by buying this young player. I wish he wasn't like Kubo. Maybe the same from Asia Guler has better posture. I hope he can perform optimally and be ready for a long-term Madrid project. Hopefully he can adapt well, doesn't become a failed transfer. Maybe the hope is he is better than Benzema.
Man, he's not even a pure striker, it's not possible to compare him with Benzema. He's a right midfielder player, I think he's the next Valverde because he's flexible, he have a good pass and he know to find the right moment. Yeah Kubo was a failed transfer by Real Madrid, but it seems no problem for them because every club ever done wrong sign a player. Signing a young player is risky, he could develop become a great player or a nothing.
Looking at some of Arda Güler's video shows he seems to have good skills in processing his ball this is exactly the same as Bernardo Silva in terms of his game as an attacking midfielder, Real Madrid will still know his potential how forward he is, maybe it will be very good if he continues to develop in helping Real Madrid's attack.

Of the many failed transfers but there have been many successful ones from that transfer, so it's not a big problem for Real Madrid about the failure of the players recruited this is indeed common even with expensive purchases there are those who do not match their expectations.

But I think this Arda Güler will be his future expectation, if seen from his ball carrying skills.

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