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June 22, 2014, 05:02:21 PM
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take a closer look into how much technology and innovative developments are going on now in russia:
http://rt.com/shows/technology-update/

the last 9 articles..... number nine is dated August 23, 2013 10:30 , such innovation , much amazing

if you dare to look closely you'll see that the program been running monthly since may 2007. last episode came out on 23 of may 2014. new one should come out any day now.
you see.
i cant believe the level of your arrogance and ignorance. i bet you never been to russia, though you are one of the loudest proponents here sharing your unsupported opinion which is in fact extremely bias. the opinion that you built regarding russians has been developed in your head since the fall of ussr. romania also had a 'revolution' in 89 heavily directed by cia, since then your government is nothing else but a marionette wassal state of the west. now that you are in eu the most educated people are leaving in masses leaving all the rest to carry the burden of your so called 'government' selling all possible assets to banking elites. face it, by acting this way you give your nation a bad name. since 1989 romanians were heading towards developing inferiority complex as quality of life in romania dramatically worsens. ask any old person when quality of live, education, healthcare was better; during nicolae ceausescu rule or now when all your sovereignty is in posession of brussels cartel?
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Gizmag, innovation everyday, see where does it come from:

http://www.gizmag.com/

And lot of people leave my country to go in Switzerland, that do not mean i have an irrational hate for Switzerland like Russian have for western...
I will blame my government not the government of the competitive country... Russian are bad losers...

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June 22, 2014, 05:30:48 PM
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take a closer look into how much technology and innovative developments are going on now in russia:
http://rt.com/shows/technology-update/

the last 9 articles..... number nine is dated August 23, 2013 10:30 , such innovation , much amazing

if you dare to look closely you'll see that the program been running monthly since may 2007. last episode came out on 23 of may 2014. new one should come out any day now.
you see.
i cant believe the level of your arrogance and ignorance. i bet you never been to russia, though you are one of the loudest proponents here sharing your unsupported opinion which is in fact extremely bias. the opinion that you built regarding russians has been developed in your head since the fall of ussr. romania also had a 'revolution' in 89 heavily directed by cia, since then your government is nothing else but a marionette wassal state of the west. now that you are in eu the most educated people are leaving in masses leaving all the rest to carry the burden of your so called 'government' selling all possible assets to banking elites. face it, by acting this way you give your nation a bad name. since 1989 romanians were heading towards developing inferiority complex as quality of life in romania dramatically worsens. ask any old person when quality of live, education, healthcare was better; during nicolae ceausescu rule or now when all your sovereignty is in posession of brussels cartel?

the revolution in the 89 was staged by ex kgb officers in Romania
the leader of the revolution was Ion Iliescu known for his ties with the former URSS and the one that denied a real revolution taking place in 90.

So , who's the ignorant now?

And about my people fleeing the country.. are they heading towards the evil west and the hell in Brussels or to the heaven called Russia?

Also I've been to Russia enough times both and after the 89' events.


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1941 memorial events staged all across Donbass, including the cities of Donetsk and Lugansk. A lot of young natives were signing up to join the resistance. Many of them in their late teens or early 20s.

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This was epic. Anyone who had watched the Russia v Belgium match at the FIFA World Cup 2014 (match finished an hour ago) must have noticed this: The flag of Donetsk People's Republic!

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June 23, 2014, 12:23:52 AM
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As I wrote before, the Ukraine crisis will give the Europeans a chance to escape the clutches of American imperialism. The original major ones like France, Germany, Austria, etc. have started showing signs they are hesitant to damage themselves as a result of the dictates of Empire. Now it turned out, even the poodles like Poland are showing signs of enlightenment.


News item from a leaked FM Sikorski conversation:


A Polish news magazine said on Sunday it had
obtained a secret recording of Foreign Minister
Radoslaw Sikorski, in contention for a senior
European Union job, saying that Poland's
relationship with the United States was
worthless.
The Wprost news magazine said the recording
was of a private conversation earlier this year
between Sikorski and Jacek Rostowski, a member
of parliament with the ruling Civic Platform who
until last year was finance minister.
...
Aides to Sikorski and Rostowski said they had no
immediate comment. A government spokeswoman
said it was hard to form a view based on a few
excerpts of a conversation, but there might be a
comment later.
According to a transcript of excerpts of the
conversation that was published by Wprost on its
Internet site, Sikorski told Rostowski: "You know
that the Polish-US alliance isn't worth anything."
"It is downright harmful, because it creates a
false sense of security ... Complete bullshit.
We'll get in conflict with the Germans, Russians
and we'll think that everything is super, because
we gave the Americans a blow job. Losers.
Complete losers."
According to the transcript, Sikorski described
Warsaw's attitude towards the United States
using the Polish word "murzynskosc."
That derives from the word "murzyn," which
denotes a dark-skinned person and someone who
does the work for somebody else , according to
the PWN Polish language dictionary.


Putin has really helped the Europeans to start fighting for their freedom from thr Empire.



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Genocide in Eastern Ukraine.

America Cleanses Southeastern Ukraine of Ethnic Russians

http://www.globalresearch.ca/america-cleanses-southeastern-ukraine-of-ethnic-russians/5388101
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Putin has really helped the Europeans to start fighting for their freedom from thr Empire.

No thanks, last time you did it was the worst regime ever in history. The pro-russian here in France are avoided neonazi from "front national"... That's cool keep your fucking neonazi home...

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June 23, 2014, 07:49:20 AM
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1941 memorial events staged all across Donbass, including the cities of Donetsk and Lugansk. A lot of young natives were signing up to join the resistance. Many of them in their late teens or early 20s.



It's not surprising. This is a local Fatherland War for the people living there, the fist one after the Second Great Fatherland War of 1941-1945. people there fight for their land, their homes, their lives, their children's right to live and be first rate citizens in their own state, for the right to speak their own language.

“Dark times lie ahead of us and there will be a time when we must choose between what is easy and what is right.”
“We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.”
“It is important to fight and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated.”
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1941 memorial events staged all across Donbass, including the cities of Donetsk and Lugansk. A lot of young natives were signing up to join the resistance. Many of them in their late teens or early 20s.



It's not surprising. This is a local Fatherland War for the people living there, the fist one after the Second Great Fatherland War of 1941-1945. people there fight for their land, their homes, their lives, their children's right to live and be first rate citizens in their own state, for the right to speak their own language.

The children in the picture looks like 11 to 15 years old. This is basically child soldiers. This is a violation on Geneva convention.

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No thanks, last time you did it was the worst regime ever in history.
Who told you that? Did you asked Adolf Hitler, Augusto Pinochet or Julius Caesar about their opinion? Cheesy

The pro-russian here in France are avoided neonazi from "front national"...
Oh, it's you again... Thank you for entertainment, your libertarian xenophobic idiotism will never cease to amaze me.  Smiley It seems that you forgot about the role of French nationalism in the history of your country. French nationalism is the reason of your existence, a France would still be an absolute monarchy for ages without french nationalism. So speak for yourself, kid... And better way to speak is to participate in elections after learning the subject. Learn the meaning of "neonazi" word before using it to talk about national movements.

That's cool keep your fucking neonazi home...
It's time to ask your alma mater for chargeback, because it seems that you have misinterpreted the history of europe.  Grin

P.S. Talking about Front National... It's interesting that they have stopped their cooperation with ukrainian "Svoboda" party since 2011.
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1941 memorial events staged all across Donbass, including the cities of Donetsk and Lugansk. A lot of young natives were signing up to join the resistance. Many of them in their late teens or early 20s.



It's not surprising. This is a local Fatherland War for the people living there, the fist one after the Second Great Fatherland War of 1941-1945. people there fight for their land, their homes, their lives, their children's right to live and be first rate citizens in their own state, for the right to speak their own language.

The children in the picture looks like 11 to 15 years old. This is basically child soldiers. This is a violation on Geneva convention.

The picture is from the anti-war rally in Donetsk, when people collected signatures asking Washington not to murder them.

However, during 1941-954 there were a lot of teens fighting to defend their homes. When the enemy is at the gates, threatening to overrun your town or village, and there is a real possibility that you yourself, your mother, your siblings will be killed, you tend to grow up very fast, you take to arms and defend what is dear. The scale is different, it becomes very personal, and the world politics as we see it here.


During the last two weeks that I was away on vacation, I had a chance to follow Russian TV news from RTR Planeta and lack of news from Euronews, which during this covered all between Iraq and Karachi, but not the massacres happening in Europe.

Whatever we write or discuss here has little effect on the outcome. Washington-backed murdered in Kiev have been escalating the scale and brutality of the ethnic cleansing of Russians.

At the same time, Russia takes in the refugees that manage to escape the hellfire of the heavy artillery, air raids, bullets and phosphor bombs. There are currently over 140000 registered refugees being sheltered in 5 regions of Russia (http://kinofilms-online.ru/hot-news/novosti/obshchestvo/5853-kolichestvo-bezhentsev-s-ukrainy-v-rossiyu-stremitelno-rastet). All refugees are questioned and their statements are noted. Russia prepares a large lawsuit to be filed to the international war crimes court in the Hague. It will also assist individual refugees filing their separate lawsuits. This is the only thing that can ultimately stop the lawlessness unleashed and condoned by Washington.

In the meantime, we can write of 50 male medics killed in a town hospital for treating the "wrong" people.
We can write of a father who in vain carried the lifeless bleeding body of his 5-year old daughter to a nearest hospital.
We can write of refugee children who panic once they hear engine sounds of an airplane, expecting bombs to start falling.
We can write of a village where Right Sector killed off all males between 16 and 50.
We can write about a man who had dinner with his family, went out of the kitchen and hears a shell exploding there, and upon rushing back, finding his wife torn to bits.
We can write about towns without water and sewage living in blockade
We can write about nightly artillery shelling of residential areas, hospitals, kindergardens, schools
We can write about the scorched earth war being conducted to destroy infrastructure and people, to drive them from their land
We can write of refugees trying to find a safe passage under bullet, while Valtsman (Poroshenko) talks of "humanitarian corridors" - the Russian journalists killed by artillery were preparing for a report about one such refugee column.
We can write about villages that were overrun by the invading forces, where unobtrusive markings were appearing on the doors, showing which families had their members in the resistance and thus the whole family was slated for extermination
We can write about forbidden phosphor bombs being used against the people of Donbass.
We can write about a lot of thing, but it won't change a thing because Europe (its media) stuck fingers into their ears and sings "la-la-la everything is fine".

I'll try to post daily headline digests of Russian news as far my time allows, and I also plan to translate some articles and posts from Russian to help break the information blockade, the iron curtain, just a little.

“Dark times lie ahead of us and there will be a time when we must choose between what is easy and what is right.”
“We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.”
“It is important to fight and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated.”
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1.Who told you that? Did you asked Adolf Hitler, Augusto Pinochet or Julius Caesar about their opinion? Cheesy

2.Oh, it's you again... Thank you for entertainment, your libertarian xenophobic idiotism will never cease to amaze me.  Smiley

3.It seems that you forgot about the role of French nationalism in the history of your country.

4.French nationalism is the reason of your existence, a France would still be an absolute monarchy for ages without french nationalism.

5.So speak for yourself, kid... And better way to speak is to participate in elections after learning the subject. Learn the meaning of "neonazi" word before using it to talk about national movements.

6.it's time to ask your alma mater for chargeback, because it seems that you have misinterpreted the history of europe.  Grin

1.Cause communism was a good thing for the world... Even your country has stop this stupidity, just noth korea still...

2.Your stupid nationalism and the way you love to suck your leader more than any other people in the world amaze me...

3.French nationalism like the maréchal Pétain who collaborate with nazi ? cause national front have very much pétainist...

4.You are wrong, The goal of french revolution was to have freedom  from the government, it's was inspired by the enlightenment philosopher and the first human right declaration was created. The "déclaration des droits de l'homme et du citoyen de 1789" is about protecting the individual right from the government.

"The aim of every political association is the preservation of the natural
and imprescriptible rights of Man. These rights are Liberty, Property, Safety and
Resistance to Oppression."

The goal of French revolution is not about sucking hard our political leader...

5.Participate at fifth republic election ? Are you serious ? This system not work, when it was created he protected a lot of law made during the nazi collaboration by méchéral pétain, including the KGB sponsored communist (CGT, FO, "France télévision", "l'humanité", french communist party...) who still have an incredible amount of power even if just 6% of people agree with them...

And the "honor leader" of the national front still think we must burn the jews, few week ago he say "Ebola epidemic would be good to fight overpupulation" and every month we see neonazi like the "groupe identitaire" or the "GUD" in front national...

6.Don't think so.

That's what type of nationalism you agree with:


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A interesting letter that I translated:
http://stanislavs.org/the-wild-wild-west/

“Dark times lie ahead of us and there will be a time when we must choose between what is easy and what is right.”
“We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.”
“It is important to fight and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated.”
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War time journalists of Komsomol'skaja Pravda Aleksands Kots and Dmitrij Steshin returned home from their reporting duty in besieged Slavjansk. Here is how they were returning under cover using back roads, and after that a summary of highlights of their reporting - each day - new deaths and destruction:

http://m.kp.ru/daily/26246.7/3126955/

Steshin wrote in his twitter that he know knows the hardships associated with the name of "The citizen of blockaded Leningrad".
https://twitter.com/kp_steshin

They were the ones reporting Ukrainian use of the forbidden phosphor bombs:
http://www.kp.ru/daily/26240.4/3124052/

White phosphor is contained in water as it catches fire upon contact with air and burns at 800 degrees. If droplets of phosphor munition touches a human, only the organic parts burn - the clothes remain intact.

Phosphor bombs seem to have a Georgian trace...



More on phosphorus bombs:
http://futuristrendcast.wordpress.com/2014/06/13/kiev-provocations-phosphorus-bombing-of-slavyansk-and-ukraine-apcs-breach-russian-border/

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“We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.”
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It is always interesting to look at past predictions and see how well they fir with current reality.
I translated one such article from the time Maidan was only starting to turn violent:
http://stanislavs.org/velvet-divorce/

“Dark times lie ahead of us and there will be a time when we must choose between what is easy and what is right.”
“We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.”
“It is important to fight and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated.”
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watch this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4FhYcdWMJU
 
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It breaks my heart watching it.  Cry

And what about the ceasefire?! Yesterday, the Russian and Austrian presidents urged Poroshenko to extend the 7-hour window. And a couple hours after that Poroshenko made a completely opposite move, saying that the ceasefire can be aborted at any moment, and that the military and the private bandit groups are authorised to use full force at a smallest provocation.

The freedom fighters of Novorossia  actually didn't see any traces of ceasefire - shelling of the civilians continued as usual, cities are still under blockade, and the refugees are still denied safe passage by the aggressors.

And:

Humanitarian situation in Ukraine aggravates every minute
http://rt.com/op-edge/168056-humanitarian-situation-ukraine-aggravates/

Rostov region is in the state of emergency due to inflow of the refugees (in all, over 150.000 people, mainly women and children fled Eastern-Ukraine), with Russian government allocating 240 million roubles to address the problem:
http://rusvesna.su/news/1403680925



And a telling sentiment from Novorossia:
If Poroshenko promises peace, one should prepare for war:
http://rusvesna.su/news/1403645222

Novorossia asks that Russian peacekeepers be sent to the country:
http://rusvesna.su/news/1403680817



In the meantime, Merkel is dead set on committing a political suicide:

http://rt.com/news/line/2014-06-25/#64724
Merkel threatens more sanctions, cites ‘slow progress’ in Ukraine

German Chancellor Angela Merkel has warned new sanctions against Russia could be put back on the agenda if progress in stabilizing the situation in Ukraine does not speed up. On Wednesday, she praised Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko’s call for a unilateral ceasefire in eastern Ukraine. Merkel also described Russian President Vladimir Putin’s decision to renounce his right to intervene as “psychologically important.” She told parliament, however, that “progress is slow” and “if nothing else works, sanctions can be put back on the agenda.”

“Dark times lie ahead of us and there will be a time when we must choose between what is easy and what is right.”
“We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.”
“It is important to fight and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated.”
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