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September 11, 2021, 04:46:16 PM
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People could not connect the network right before validations and thence their identities were kicked out and then killed (I mean 'suspended -> zombied -> killed' cycle). So the growth started to decline of even go back. For now I think it is obvious that Idena need sharding in order to continue its growth.

I agree with majority of your post. The only thing is that network was growing exponential because mining reavenues were huge (we pumped 6x very fast). Its not the validation problems that stopped network from growing. It was price dump. Idena dumped 60% in 12 days. so if you were able to mine 500$ per month and people were buying invitations and yet no one was giving them away because everyone was spamming all friends and family memebers to join the network. Than price dumped, mining rewards too and people give up. At least with persuading all cousins, aunts and uncles at family dinners to join.

So the team recently has announced 27th hardfork which includes long awaited sharding:
https://medium.com/idena/idena-hard-fork-announcement-validation-sharding-ca910bac3599

I hope that this technolodgy will help Idena in terms of scaling. And when (and if) that happens we will see investors putting their money in Idena massively.

Yea. Its the biggest event since ... first epoch. Now we are ready for going wild.
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September 13, 2021, 04:17:38 PM
Last edit: September 14, 2021, 10:28:45 AM by realRioda
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Talking about eco friendly mining and low power PC's that can support running Idena node, in Discord, we ended up with Comunity dev @bus running node + web app on his mobile phone. Full node sync lasted 90 minutes! And what's even sillier, he succeeded on running node on his Galaxy Watch Cheesy

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September 14, 2021, 11:06:40 PM
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Now you can give your candidate an invitation code and tell him to try out Test Validation using link when he gets in Web App My Idena page

After he finishes it, he can show you his certificate Smiley
If he does not show it, you can terminate invitation and repeat the process


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September 15, 2021, 08:50:30 AM
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Now you can give your candidate an invitation code and tell him to try out Test Validation using link when he gets in Web App My Idena page

After he finishes it, he can show you his certificate Smiley
If he does not show it, you can terminate invitation and repeat the process


This is good and will try this one when I have an invitation to give so the inviter will not have wasted the invitation, glad that I did not go through I got my invitation on the first request and perfected the validation, hopefully, I can perfect my second validation.

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September 16, 2021, 04:06:38 PM
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Everyone who is running their own shared node, this can be usefull for troubleshooting Web App validation

https://github.com/idena-network/idena-web/discussions/123

Join in on the discussion so we can make troubleshooting easier for all.

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September 17, 2021, 12:33:17 PM
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Thanks to the help of a good friend, I was able to put together this simple guide on how to run an Idena node on a Raspberry Pi.

Hope it helps!


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September 17, 2021, 10:23:13 PM
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Guys, I have found some great tool to test your internet connection. Not speed, but router/connection capability.

http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest?httpsok=0

If your connection is graded A or B it is great and you can run your node and Desktop App for validation.

If it's graded below, maybe you are on wifi, try lan cable, if it still sucks, you MUST use Web App for validation.

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September 21, 2021, 11:32:26 PM
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Guys, I have found some great tool to test your internet connection. Not speed, but router/connection capability.

http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest?httpsok=0

If your connection is graded A or B it is great and you can run your node and Desktop App for validation.

If it's graded below, maybe you are on wifi, try lan cable, if it still sucks, you MUST use Web App for validation.

A great tool I am graded b here have bookmarked this and will use it hours before the validation, I thought I failed on last night validation I waited for hours for the validation results, I have to get a sleep and wait the next day and got up with a perfect validation and still have a 100% grade.
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September 23, 2021, 07:15:39 PM
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Guys, I have found some great tool to test your internet connection. Not speed, but router/connection capability.

http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest?httpsok=0

If your connection is graded A or B it is great and you can run your node and Desktop App for validation.

If it's graded below, maybe you are on wifi, try lan cable, if it still sucks, you MUST use Web App for validation.

A great tool I am graded b here have bookmarked this and will use it hours before the validation, I thought I failed on last night validation I waited for hours for the validation results, I have to get a sleep and wait the next day and got up with a perfect validation and still have a 100% grade.

Learn how to talk first then proceed to opening ur mouth. Thus far I could only understand incomprehensive dronning and railing on random stuff. Alright. Since Im here Im gonna light ur path, guys. I have been following Idena a couple years now and formed impartial opinion about it. My take is, we need something to allow an average customer on the block to verify their identity using internet DNS system. That can be done by binding ur name, credentials etc. to IPV6 address. Thoughts?
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September 23, 2021, 09:22:28 PM
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My take is, we need something to allow an average customer on the block to verify their identity using internet DNS system. That can be done by binding ur name, credentials etc. to IPV6 address. Thoughts?

Big part of what makes Idena great in my opinion is verification without any form of KYC. Also, there is other project which is maybe closer to what you are proposing with IP's, nyzo.io

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September 23, 2021, 10:00:08 PM
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Big part of what makes Idena great in my opinion is verification without any form of KYC. Also, there is other project which is maybe closer to what you are proposing with IP's, nyzo.io


Idena verifies that a person is participating, and it makes the 'work' of each of those people financially equal, but the thing that stands out is that the 'work' is non productive, as with bitcoin.

You can verify that a person is 'mining' by either having them do productive or unproductive work.

At some point people will develop scripts or bots to do whatever a 'human centric' coin will do.

And it is better to have those hackers or bot makers develop scripts to imitate productive work rather than unproductive.

If you found a way to have idena miners verify their presence by doing some human work along the lines of primecoin or gridcoin you would become the number one coin, maybe ahead of bitcoin, until you got copied and cloned to second place.
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September 23, 2021, 10:24:25 PM
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Big part of what makes Idena great in my opinion is verification without any form of KYC. Also, there is other project which is maybe closer to what you are proposing with IP's, nyzo.io


Idena verifies that a person is participating, and it makes the 'work' of each of those people financially equal, but the thing that stands out is that the 'work' is non productive, as with bitcoin.

You can verify that a person is 'mining' by either having them do productive or unproductive work.

At some point people will develop scripts or bots to do whatever a 'human centric' coin will do.

And it is better to have those hackers or bot makers develop scripts to imitate productive work rather than unproductive.

If you found a way to have idena miners verify their presence by doing some human work along the lines of primecoin or gridcoin you would become the number one coin, maybe ahead of bitcoin, until you got copied and cloned to second place.

I love your take on productive/unproductive part of current Idena process. For now no one came up with better idea on how to secure Proof-Of-Person network. Let's hope that as Idena reaches more people and grow in popularity, new bright ideas will come which could turn this process around to 100% productive in every way possible. That would be truly incredible.

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September 28, 2021, 11:35:58 PM
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 My take is, we need something to allow an average customer on the block to verify their identity using internet DNS system. That can be done by binding ur name, credentials etc. to IPV6 address. Thoughts?


There have been a lot of projects which involve creating a trustable online identity, even entire coins built around that idea.

Just two examples, but there are dozens.

https://nameid.org/

https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/civic/

Of course if you have some definitive way to value identities to eliminate spam then you could do the 'human verification' part of idena by using trusted identities. A lot of effort has gone into that type of thing both by official mainstream projects and non mainstream e.g. crypto.

If you eliminated that 'verification' step then you would sort of have a modern version of huntercoin, a human mined coin, but without the game part. You would have to find something for the verified identities to do to earn coins.
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October 05, 2021, 07:48:26 AM
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Dear community,

To stimulate the discussion and endorse the efforts of the participants the core team announces a bounty for the best proposal of the community wallet governance mechanics.

The participants should post a detailed description of the governance mechanics for the community wallet. Proposals can be posted on any publication platform.

The best proposal will be chosen by the whole-network oracle voting initiated by the core team when the list of proposals is finalized. The oracle will also have a "no proposal is good enough" option in the voting which will return the reward to the foundation wallet.

The reward from the core team is set to 5K iDNA. The reward can be later increased by the community as a crowdfunding initiative.

The proposals are accepted in the community-wallet-use channel on Idena Discord starting from now on until October 31. After that, on November 1 the oracle voting will be started.

Source: https://t.me/IdenaAnnouncements/905

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October 07, 2021, 06:43:19 AM
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Are you new to Idena and looking for an invitation to join the network?

👋🏻 Tired of asking for an invite in chats and wonder why there's only few responses?

🤓 Want to know more about how the invitation system works?

🤔 Or simply don't know where to start?

➡️ Here's a guide that will help you to secure your invitation with confidence!
https://medium.com/idena/how-to-get-idena-invitation-easy-and-fast-ec1faace5cc7

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October 09, 2021, 01:27:15 PM
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Idena first tweet https://twitter.com/idenaperson/status/1446744653437546498

(for the general good, activity is needed in the form of subscriptions, reposts and likes) Thanks

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October 09, 2021, 02:34:22 PM
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I don't know if it's only me but I always get a penalty even if I turn off the mining and close the wallet, do I have to just open a wallet a little longer before closing it, anyway two days to go before the validation and I'm very excited now looking forward to my third validation.

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October 10, 2021, 03:57:51 AM
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Looking for a invite to this been following for some time now and am in love with this concept for a blockchain.

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October 11, 2021, 12:42:19 PM
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Idena explorer has new update, now containing charts to better visualise network metrics growth.

https://scan.idena.io/charts

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October 11, 2021, 08:07:55 PM
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Idena validation results for epoch #0076 on 11.10.2021

Identities validated: 10,296
https://scan.idena.io/epoch/76/validation

Validation rewards paid: 481,290 iDNA
https://scan.idena.io/epoch/76/rewards

Minimum total score for Humans to get the second invitation and Verified to get an invitation: 98.15%

https://twitter.com/IdenaNetwork/status/1447568740447555586

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