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April 27, 2021, 12:24:48 PM
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I just heard about Proof-Of-Person. However, my friend also mined there, and recently I noticed idena experienced a price increase in the week. I think it's very good. My friend is mining here, I'll be right away.

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May 01, 2021, 02:57:22 PM
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There is new hard fork on the way:
https://medium.com/idena/idena-hard-fork-announcement-early-invitations-9d6d171015c7

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May 01, 2021, 04:37:37 PM
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I last year had wanted to mine idena. It's an interesting project for me. Where "Idena is the first proof-of-person blockchain based on democratic principles. Every node is linked to a cryptoidentity – one single person with equal voting power and mining income."
Hell, I would not refuse such a price for an Idna coin, I think anyone would see it would be happy   Cheesy , maybe someday, who knows  Wink
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May 03, 2021, 10:14:28 PM
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This has been asked so many times before but I cannot access information about nodes right now, I cannot connect my wallet there are no nodes, I have deleted my idena application download the latest version but I still do not have nodes running, how can I fix this?

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May 03, 2021, 10:28:43 PM
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This has been asked so many times before but I cannot access information about nodes right now, I cannot connect my wallet there are no nodes, I have deleted my idena application download the latest version but I still do not have nodes running, how can I fix this?

From here: %appdata%\Idena\node\datadir, delete folders "idenachain.db" and "ipfs"
From here: %appdata%\Idena, delete all .json files
and restart PC

Also check if your antivirus has blocked Idena in any way.

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May 04, 2021, 09:58:49 AM
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One more Idena node is included on my home network. a completely different computer, no VPS, VM... just clear OS (win 7).
It's connected to the same internet connection, the same IP. mining is ON.

Why my first default node (my personal computer) have a regular mining reward, and everything is fine but on this win7 mining reward is 4x smaller.
For example, node1 rewarded with 60IDNA for 15 days but node2 just 30iDNA in the last 30 days.

does this mean that two nodes cannot work on one IP address?

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May 04, 2021, 10:16:55 AM
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One more Idena node is included on my home network. a completely different computer, no VPS, VM... just clear OS (win 7).
It's connected to the same internet connection, the same IP. mining is ON.

Why my first default node (my personal computer) have a regular mining reward, and everything is fine but on this win7 mining reward is 4x smaller.
For example, node1 rewarded with 60IDNA for 15 days but node2 just 30iDNA in the last 30 days.

does this mean that two nodes cannot work on one IP address?

It has nothing to do with same IP address. You need to calculate Balance + Locked + Stake, not just Balance.

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May 04, 2021, 10:33:09 AM
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One more Idena node is included on my home network. a completely different computer, no VPS, VM... just clear OS (win 7).
It's connected to the same internet connection, the same IP. mining is ON.

Why my first default node (my personal computer) have a regular mining reward, and everything is fine but on this win7 mining reward is 4x smaller.
For example, node1 rewarded with 60IDNA for 15 days but node2 just 30iDNA in the last 30 days.

does this mean that two nodes cannot work on one IP address?

It has nothing to do with same IP address. You need to calculate Balance + Locked + Stake, not just Balance.

regardless, approximately 4x is less rewarding on the second node. the numbers I have given are the only example. The same is for the amount at stake.
This machine is behind another local router, I doubt maybe he's making a problem.

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May 04, 2021, 08:05:53 PM
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I just found out about this coin, and bought some, and have some questions, sorry if the answers are covered elsewhere or if they are dumb questions.

1) Is there anything done by the humans on the network aside from capcha type solving?

2) If not, do you have any plans to develop the algorithm to do other work?

3) Is the coding open source? Or a mix of open and other?

4) Your block explorer https://scan.idena.io/#topaddress says 42,608,000 coins roughly, of which greater than 30,000,000 are in ten addresses and most of the rest in a few dozen more addresses. Who controls the ten largest addresses?

5) In the 'online miners' tab there are 7154 listed. First some which say 'last seen recently', then some that say 'last seen 10 minutes' then more that say 'last seen recently'. And the page says '5724 online miners'. Do you have more than 5,000 people mining at a given moment, or is that for the past day or other amount of time?

6) Is your blockchain amenable to regular explorers? If Fairglu wanted to put an idena explorer at chainz.cryptoid.info could he easily do it?

7) Are there any explorers online not controlled by the dev team?

It looks like a great project, and I bought some and might try to figure out how to do the human mining part.







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I just found out about this coin, and bought some, and have some questions, sorry if the answers are covered elsewhere or if they are dumb questions.

1) Is there anything done by the humans on the network aside from capcha type solving?
Capcha making aka flip creation. Voting on oracles.

2) If not, do you have any plans to develop the algorithm to do other work?
Ads are comming so people will be able to do that too.

3) Is the coding open source? Or a mix of open and other?
Open source https://github.com/idena-network/

4) Your block explorer https://scan.idena.io/#topaddress says 42,608,000 coins roughly, of which greater than 30,000,000 are in ten addresses and most of the rest in a few dozen more addresses. Who controls the ten largest addresses?
See more on circulation page, and read Idena community report for details in the bottom link
https://scan.idena.io/circulation


5) In the 'online miners' tab there are 7154 listed. First some which say 'last seen recently', then some that say 'last seen 10 minutes' then more that say 'last seen recently'. And the page says '5724 online miners'. Do you have more than 5,000 people mining at a given moment, or is that for the past day or other amount of time?
7154 is total number of validated identities that can mine if they want. 5724 is number of people that are mining at the moment. Any answer other than that is currently too complicated.

6) Is your blockchain amenable to regular explorers? If Fairglu wanted to put an idena explorer at chainz.cryptoid.info could he easily do it?
Idena Explorer works using an public API. As far as I see, all info that chainz.cryptoid.info needs can be pulled by API in one way or other.

7) Are there any explorers online not controlled by the dev team?
https://idena.today/

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I just found out about this coin, and bought some, and have some questions, sorry if the answers are covered elsewhere or if they are dumb questions.

1) Is there anything done by the humans on the network aside from capcha type solving?
Capcha making aka flip creation. Voting on oracles.

2) If not, do you have any plans to develop the algorithm to do other work?
Ads are comming so people will be able to do that too.

3) Is the coding open source? Or a mix of open and other?
Open source https://github.com/idena-network/

4) Your block explorer https://scan.idena.io/#topaddress says 42,608,000 coins roughly, of which greater than 30,000,000 are in ten addresses and most of the rest in a few dozen more addresses. Who controls the ten largest addresses?
See more on circulation page, and read Idena community report for details in the bottom link
https://scan.idena.io/circulation


5) In the 'online miners' tab there are 7154 listed. First some which say 'last seen recently', then some that say 'last seen 10 minutes' then more that say 'last seen recently'. And the page says '5724 online miners'. Do you have more than 5,000 people mining at a given moment, or is that for the past day or other amount of time?
7154 is total number of validated identities that can mine if they want. 5724 is number of people that are mining at the moment. Any answer other than that is currently too complicated.

6) Is your blockchain amenable to regular explorers? If Fairglu wanted to put an idena explorer at chainz.cryptoid.info could he easily do it?
Idena Explorer works using an public API. As far as I see, all info that chainz.cryptoid.info needs can be pulled by API in one way or other.

7) Are there any explorers online not controlled by the dev team?
https://idena.today/

Thanks for taking the time to answer.

It looks like one of the best projects I have seen so far. One of my favorites in the past was BitHire. It was a brilliant idea and went sky high. I kept 'buying the dip' as it dropped and got a lot at a really good price https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1201420.0

One of the things that bothered some people about BitHire was that everybody involved with the coin was anonymous. Everybody supports the idea of anonymity, but some people thought there should be somebody, anybody who knows the identity of the developer.

8 ) Is there anybody who knows the identity of anybody on the dev team?

The basic idea of the coin is definitely the next step in crypto. Human mining can lead to fair distribution and work based distribution in the future. Maybe not with this coin, since almost 30% of coins seem to be distributed already, but if this coin is done well it will pave the way.

I bought some, and support the coin as best I can.




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May 04, 2021, 09:43:22 PM
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8 ) Is there anybody who knows the identity of anybody on the dev team?

The basic idea of the coin is definitely the next step in crypto. Human mining can lead to fair distribution and work based distribution in the future. Maybe not with this coin, since almost 30% of coins seem to be distributed already, but if this coin is done well it will pave the way.

I bought some, and support the coin as best I can.

8 ) Is there anybody who knows the identity of anybody on the dev team?
Not that I'm aware of. During the last year of communicating with them either directly on Telegram, or just by reading their articles, there was nothing fishy or unprofessional. That is just my impression of them.

Coins supply is uncapped, so I see current distribution, only as that, current situation that will change over time.

Coins emission:
Block reward: 6 iDNA
Blocks per minute: 3
Maximum number of blocks per day: 4,320
Mining cap per day: 25,920 iDNA (50%)
Accumulating fund per day for validation session: 25,920 iDNA (50%)
Total daily emmision: 51,840 iDNA

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8 ) Is there anybody who knows the identity of anybody on the dev team?
Not that I'm aware of. During the last year of communicating with them either directly on Telegram, or just by reading their articles, there was nothing fishy or unprofessional. That is just my impression of them.

Coins supply is uncapped, so I see current distribution, only as that, current situation that will change over time.

Coins emission:
Block reward: 6 iDNA
Blocks per minute: 3
Maximum number of blocks per day: 4,320
Mining cap per day: 25,920 iDNA (50%)
Accumulating fund per day for validation session: 25,920 iDNA (50%)
Total daily emmision: 51,840 iDNA

The fact that supply is uncapped definitely makes it more possible this could be a serious coin with regard to developing 'human mining', but there are a few basic questions that still arise.

The supply page mentions a lot about distribution to investors.

9) Did these investors invest without knowing the identity of the developer? Are there links to the solicitations that early investors responded to, even if it was just advertisements?

I strongly support the coin and especially support the idea of coin network development outside the corporate framework. The Idena core developer has a much better focus on ai than most people https://twitter.com/IdenaNetwork/status/1126759210450972673 and obviously is developing the coin in that direction, but it would be a stronger coin if it offered a path, however far in the future, a bit less centralized.

If the dev or others involved with this coin want to develop on a path to ai using taskwork they should start a thread or forum on that topic and make the development priorities more clear. Google's fake ai is one sort of nightmare, but a world with millions of people filling capchas is also dark.


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May 04, 2021, 10:30:08 PM
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A little question that confused me. Does each IDENA account have different mining income depending on the validation score?
I made a comparison between two newbie accounts that just did one validation
The first account passes validation with a score of 5/6 (83%)
The second account passes validation with a score of 6/6 (100%)

The two accounts so far have different IDNA credits.

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Balance
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Locked
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Wallet 1
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13.6 IDNA
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14.6 IDNA
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44.0 IDNA
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Wallet 2
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15.3 IDNA
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16.3 IDNA
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49.1 IDNA
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May 05, 2021, 12:40:50 PM
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A little question that confused me. Does each IDENA account have different mining income depending on the validation score?
I made a comparison between two newbie accounts that just did one validation

Validation score does not affect mining rewards. Each node no matter how old it is or how high score it get mine with the same speed. Sometimes 1 node mine faster than second but its temporary and will catch up in longer term.
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May 05, 2021, 02:17:18 PM
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Validation score does not affect mining rewards. Each node no matter how old it is or how high score it get mine with the same speed. Sometimes 1 node mine faster than second but its temporary and will catch up in longer term.

Then there will be a point where IDNA's income is less than the capital that the miner has to spend. That way, this ecosystem will stagnate and there will be no more growth. Unless the IDNA coin price increases to balance the miner's income with their initial capital to rent a VPS.


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May 05, 2021, 03:19:44 PM
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Then there will be a point where IDNA's income is less than the capital that the miner has to spend. That way, this ecosystem will stagnate and there will be no more growth. Unless the IDNA coin price increases to balance the miner's income with their initial capital to rent a VPS.

From economic point of view there is no difference.

1-flat rewards per whole network = annual inflation decrease year by year = this build value in long term based on stock to flow ratio

2-More miners -> chain has bigger value -> tokens price should fallow network value in long term

3-More miners ->  Better chain use cases (advertise, oracle) -> tokens price should fallow network value in long term

If you would go with flat rewards per each miner you take care about miners, but you resign from p1 making inflation of coin depending on the number of nodes which makes this coin uninvestable ( I would not invest in a coin not knowing how big inflation is)
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May 07, 2021, 03:15:49 AM
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Can the validation times be extended for those of us that work 12 hour days? I couldnt participate today and I wont be able to on the next one either and its bumming me out.

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May 07, 2021, 08:45:22 AM
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Can the validation times be extended for those of us that work 12 hour days? I couldnt participate today and I wont be able to on the next one either and its bumming me out.

Quit your job, now you work for iDNA

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May 07, 2021, 09:10:28 AM
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Can the validation times be extended for those of us that work 12 hour days? I couldnt participate today and I wont be able to on the next one either and its bumming me out.
You can set Idena node on the VPS and simply connect to it from the workplace.
If you don't want to use VPS, then you can set a remote control to your home PC through TeamViewer (or something you like).
Validation can be passed in 10 minutes, I don't think that your boss will swear strongly.

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