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September 03, 2020, 07:48:31 AM
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They decided that they could hand out invitations without doing any work for it.
So yes, you're right, they just opened up access to unlimited coins 2 times a month.
Greed. Inexhaustible greed.

No work = working hard in flip school on telegram teaching each new network participant what flip is, how to make them and testing them if they understand it correctly. For sure - no work.

First LIE
You're a liar.
I am on the Flip School telegram channel and read all messages.
And there is no hard work from the "teachers". 1-2 times a day they write something like - "yes, this is a good flip" or "no, this flip is bad, replace the pictures."
And this happens sooooo rarely.
So don't lie about hard work.

So yes, you're right, they just opened up access to unlimited coins 2 times a month.

Unlimited = ~3k DNA on average. (this number will go down with every epoch - network grow - lower reward for single invitation)

Unlimited - "not limited or restricted in terms of number, quantity, or extent."

3k =/= unlimited. Unless you can count only to 20 because that's how much fingers you have.

And idena has bounty campaign and has to pay for it.
Idena has community developers doing mobile APP, finished ledger support, Idena Ethereum Relay, chrome extension, Voting app using Idena-SignIn, Fairdrop, Lightweight web wallet, idena forum using Idena-SignIn and many more - https://idena-apps.org/apps.html. 6k DNA per month is not even a fraction of what they deserve.

Another LIE
You are so stupid that you yourself cannot understand what you are writing.
"Unlimited" - not limited or restricted in terms of number, quantity, or extent."
That's it.
Yes, they are limited in the number of coins earned per 1 validation.
BUT they are not limited in the number of validations.
That is, they will receive this reward an unlimited number of times, in a month, in 3 months, in 59 months, and they will continue to receive this reward.
'A certain number of coins' * 'non-limited number of validations' = 'unlimited coins'.
Are you incredibly dumb or just trying to mislead other people?

Developers can pay anyone and as many coins as they want, BUT only from 521k coins, which were intended for these purposes.
They do not have the right to get free coins out of thin air and use them on the network.
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September 03, 2020, 09:06:23 AM
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No. Everyone with healthy brain will not hate IDENA. People are divided into lovers and hidden lovers under haters mask to create fake FUD to buy more before it will explode to bitfinex, binance, kucoin, huobi. They know that nothing will stop price than. Its one of a kind innovative coin (with under 10 mln $ marketcap !!). Not another erc-20 token with big promises. Thats why main hater - Tyttifructawy Anus is here for months under few accounts (same posting style) posting same BS that was already explained many times.

This is true. I believe too that the price will explode once the project mature and will be listed on few major exchanges. I expect that IDNA price to go somewhere near $10 in the future.
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Last edit: September 03, 2020, 11:44:47 AM by Swinging Phallus
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Firstly, I want to say that this is an interesting project and I wish I heard about it sooner. The protocol and execution of it are a bit clunky but it's certainly worth watching.


They decided that they could hand out invitations without doing any work for it.
So yes, you're right, they just opened up access to unlimited coins 2 times a month.
Greed. Inexhaustible greed.

I am on the Flip School telegram channel and read all messages.
And there is no hard work from the "teachers". 1-2 times a day they write something like - "yes, this is a good flip" or "no, this flip is bad, replace the pictures."
And this happens sooooo rarely.
So don't lie about hard work.

Let's not forget that they built the wallet and the first PoP blockchain network...
They've also created multiple articles on Medium to clearly explain their protocol. I can already tell that they put a lot of work into this early on. (Probably to focus on development as this is a novel idea).


Developers can pay anyone and as many coins as they want, BUT only from 521k coins, which were intended for these purposes.
They do not have the right to get free coins out of thin air and use them on the network.


Anyone is free to judge it... but this wasn't an ICO (and if it were an ICO, you would have a solid point as these would have been allocated funds that were taken from investors, however all the value that is evaluated to this coin is being built by their hard work to make Idena what it is, a PoP blockchain and the only one of its kind). So tell me, are you really trying to 'gate keep' the usage of rewards embedded in Idenas protocol against the team that founded the project because "they do not have the right to get free coins and use them" ......even though there was no ICO?
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September 03, 2020, 12:19:58 PM
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I am on the Flip School telegram channel and read all messages.
And there is no hard work from the "teachers". 1-2 times a day they write something like - "yes, this is a good flip" or "no, this flip is bad, replace the pictures."
And this happens sooooo rarely.
So don't lie about hard work.

Let me get this straight. This is shitcoin. Devs are liers. DEvs are greedy scammers. Devs are stealing money but ... you read all messages on one of Idena telegram groups (and not even main group)? If there was anyone here who was not yet sure about your intentions (to lie and create false FUD) for sure has no doubts now.

"Unlimited" - not limited or restricted in terms of number, quantity, or extent."
That's it.
Yes, they are limited in the number of coins earned per 1 validation.
BUT they are not limited in the number of validations.
'A certain number of coins' * 'non-limited number of validations' = 'unlimited coins'.
Are you incredibly dumb or just trying to mislead other people?

So yes, you're right, they just opened up access to unlimited coins 2 times a month.
Greed. Inexhaustible greed.

You said (from your second account) that they have access to unlimited coins 2 times a month. They have access to 3k coin 2 times a month on average.

But even if ... unlimited validations? There will be no more than 1500 validation in next 100 years out of which devs will get around 2.2 mln coins (considering linear network grow, it will be closer to 1 mln coin because network grow is far from linear) - less than 5% of current supply. It is more limited than you think.

Are you incredibly dumb or just trying to mislead other people?

Again you come back here after months. I smash your lies with facts and you start to offend... Leave this topic like last time, come back after next few months with same lies and I will destroy them with the same arguments.

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September 03, 2020, 12:21:23 PM
Last edit: September 05, 2020, 01:04:53 AM by Tyttifructawy Anus
 #1425

Anyone is free to judge it... but this wasn't an ICO (and if it were an ICO, you would have a solid point as these would have been allocated funds that were taken from investors, however all the value that is evaluated to this coin is being built by their hard work to make Idena what it is, a PoP blockchain and the only one of its kind). So tell me, are you really trying to 'gate keep' the usage of rewards embedded in Idenas protocol against the team that founded the project because "they do not have the right to get free coins and use them" ......even though there was no ICO?
Before you say something, analyze the situation.
They didn't have ICO, they didn't have ICO ... That's how Idena's bots shout everywhere...
But they had a private presale! It's even worse than ICO.
ICO is at least public.

And on this private presale they sold 7,000,000 coins at * $ 0.1 = $ 700,000
Fine ? Do you like it?
They have money, but they prefer to get money out of thin air by giving out invitations and using it.


Again you come back here after months. I smash your lies with facts and you start to offend... Leave this topic like last time, come back after next few months with same lies and I will destroy them with the same arguments.

Did you inspire yourself that you are capable of destroying something?
You have not given a single argument.
And I'm just talking about facts - developers get money out of the air by giving out invitations.
You're talking nonsense. Because you are one of the developers, and you are being devoured by greed.
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September 03, 2020, 12:37:42 PM
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Again you come back here after months. I smash your lies with facts and you start to offend... Leave this topic like last time, come back after next few months with same lies and I will destroy them with the same arguments.
Did you inspire yourself that you are capable of destroying something?
You have not given a single argument.
And I'm just talking about facts - developers get money out of the air by giving out invitations.
You're talking nonsense. Because you are one of the developers, and you are being devoured by greed.
Don't waste your time with this polska shmolska who thinks he knows something.
Just add it to the ignore list, like I did.
The greed of these bastards is off the charts.
Even to delete your own flip, you have to pay an amount equal to one day of mining.
Does deleting a flip have any effect on the network? Harm the network? Not.
Just pay and that's it.
Proof-Of-Greediness coin.

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September 03, 2020, 03:05:41 PM
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Probably I miss some information how to find answers to below questions .

Is it possible to find how many nodes with
Human, verified and newbies by group?

Additionally in next Epoch , how many invitations technically possible?

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September 03, 2020, 04:01:57 PM
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too much FUD and people insult this good project whereas they can leave this thread without having to judge bad about IDENA

Idena is listed on Probit and they have trade competitions too, I hope to be part of the top 20 there
https://twitter.com/probit_exchange/status/1301401591279284224
Too many scammers around as the project getting decent userbase and starting talking about it. I think we all know which one is right, without having to judge just fall into rumors likely wrong.

Listing on new exchange always a good think. Looks forward more new exchange listing occurs. Congrats to those who involved!


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September 03, 2020, 06:22:02 PM
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What does the idena face represent, if you guys don't mind?
I was really interested in the project but couldn't find enough information concerning the face, name and few other things while researching it. I guess info on those will also help potential participants have some idea behind the project.

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Sadly I was away from my computer during the last validation period because of that I have failed the verification. Can I re-apply to get verified using the same address or I will have to use a different address this time.

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Sadly I was away from my computer during the last validation period because of that I have failed the verification. Can I re-apply to get verified using the same address or I will have to use a different address this time.

Thanks

No matter what happens you keep the same address (public key for transfers/priv key)
If you were candidate or newbie than you need another invitation to be able to take part in validation (to become miner). Always, if you are not sure what you are supposed to do, check your current task.




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September 04, 2020, 08:53:04 AM
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Hi, I'm new in IDENA platform. I need an invitation code to active my wallet, thanks!
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September 04, 2020, 10:05:47 AM
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Hi, I'm new in IDENA platform. I need an invitation code to active my wallet, thanks!


You can try the Idena Flip school telegram channel to learn more about flips and possibly an invitation too . here you go

t.me/idenaflipschool

also make sure to sync your node


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September 04, 2020, 02:34:14 PM
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Hi, I'm new in IDENA platform. I need an invitation code to active my wallet, thanks!


If you want to know how to join and participate with Idena, take the time to watch this video, maybe this will help you in the future and help you get an invitation code to get more detailed knowledge about Idena validation ..

For information you can find in the video description: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUcfEWTdcdg&feature=youtu.be

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September 04, 2020, 05:56:24 PM
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Hi, I'm new in IDENA platform. I need an invitation code to active my wallet, thanks!


If you want to know how to join and participate with Idena, take the time to watch this video, maybe this will help you in the future and help you get an invitation code to get more detailed knowledge about Idena validation ..

For information you can find in the video description: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUcfEWTdcdg&feature=youtu.be

Maybe the tutorial is good and useful, but since is in another language (Indonesian) I don't think many people will understand the audio. A English version would be better.
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September 04, 2020, 06:46:53 PM
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Probably I miss some information how to find answers to below questions .

Is it possible to find how many nodes with
Human, verified and newbies by group?

Additionally in next Epoch , how many invitations technically possible?

It is possible to find the number of nodes with human verified but theres no link to find newbies group cause it seems to be removed after the validation day
To my knowledge about the project, theres no way to know how many invitation will be possible if the validation is yet to execute.

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September 04, 2020, 09:45:31 PM
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Probably I miss some information how to find answers to below questions .

Is it possible to find how many nodes with
Human, verified and newbies by group?

Additionally in next Epoch , how many invitations technically possible?

It is possible to find the number of nodes with human verified but theres no link to find newbies group cause it seems to be removed after the validation day
To my knowledge about the project, theres no way to know how many invitation will be possible if the validation is yet to execute.


Guys you should read the Idena FAQ section you would find this:
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What is the invitations distribution?
The targeted number of invitations in the network is calculated as 50% of the network size after each validation (Idena foundation invitations remaining extra).

it means that if we currently (in this eopch) have ~ 3,600 nodes, the number of invitations (theoretically) may reach ~ 1,800, will there be a demand for such a large number? we will see .... on a telegram and discord many people ask about them every day ....

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September 05, 2020, 04:31:43 AM
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Sadly I was away from my computer during the last validation period because of that I have failed the verification. Can I re-apply to get verified using the same address or I will have to use a different address this time.

Thanks

No matter what happens you keep the same address (public key for transfers/priv key)
If you were candidate or newbie than you need another invitation to be able to take part in validation (to become miner). Always, if you are not sure what you are supposed to do, check your current task.



Thank you very much for the infographics that really helped me. I was trying to do get an invitation from the flip school but, suddenly a random guy asked if I need an invitation code would it be safe to use that invitation code? Or should I get them from flip school?


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September 05, 2020, 04:32:00 AM
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it means that if we currently (in this eopch) have ~ 3,600 nodes, the number of invitations (theoretically) may reach ~ 1,800, will there be a demand for such a large number? we will see .... on a telegram and discord many people ask about them every day ....

Why theoretically? If the protocol issue 50% of the current nodes of invites this is it. Some are using them and some are not, but the invites are there. BTW I have an invite available for someone interested, just PM me.
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