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November 08, 2020, 06:15:28 PM
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when sharding?
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November 08, 2020, 07:28:24 PM
Last edit: November 08, 2020, 08:45:22 PM by Tytanowy Janusz
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when sharding?

When ETH 2.0? Under development ... like everything in crypto... Dunno about sharding ETA but you can find the latest updates here: https://t.me/IdenaGithub - telegram notifier about every GitHub update. After recent mainnet release (that Andrew decided not to announce - are you scared of hype?) GitHub is on fire. Update few times daily.

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November 09, 2020, 01:42:42 PM
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when sharding?

When ETH 2.0? Under development ... like everything in crypto... Dunno about sharding ETA but you can find the latest updates here: https://t.me/IdenaGithub - telegram notifier about every GitHub update. After recent mainnet release (that Andrew decided not to announce - are you scared of hype?) GitHub is on fire. Update few times daily.

Good to here that development is on fire. Pretty bullish on Idena right now.
Btw is there any mandatory upgrade or hardfork planned as I'm not connected on Discord/Telegram as much as I wanted.

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November 11, 2020, 01:43:31 PM
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Good to here that development is on fire. Pretty bullish on Idena right now.
Btw is there any mandatory upgrade or hardfork planned as I'm not connected on Discord/Telegram as much as I wanted.
I'm also bullish on Idena, and hodl everything i get from mining, validations and invites.

Idena get hardforks almost every couple of months, and sometimes even more often. Previously, we know nothing about future changes until a new node version is released.

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November 12, 2020, 10:24:01 AM
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Idena get hardforks almost every couple of months, and sometimes even more often. Previously, we know nothing about future changes until a new node version is released.

I assume this happens because we are still on the testnet. Once we fully switch to mainnet I hope HF will be something you'll forget about.

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November 12, 2020, 04:17:42 PM
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I assume this happens because we are still on the testnet. Once we fully switch to mainnet I hope HF will be something you'll forget about.
I keep reading that Idena is now in the testnet stage. But this is obviously not true. Testnet means a network that is unstable and test coins that are not worth anything.

Have you seen at least one test coin that is traded on 4 exchanges?

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November 12, 2020, 08:04:12 PM
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Validation session are around the corner, only 3 days left ! If someone left outside need invitation code for this validation pm me here or in discord
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November 13, 2020, 10:45:30 AM
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I assume this happens because we are still on the testnet. Once we fully switch to mainnet I hope HF will be something you'll forget about.
I keep reading that Idena is now in the testnet stage. But this is obviously not true. Testnet means a network that is unstable and test coins that are not worth anything.

Have you seen at least one test coin that is traded on 4 exchanges?

Exchanges can list anything they want. Even ETH placeholder for coin that is not even in Testnet stage. Qtrade listed Idena in February when it was clearly a testnet with less than 200 nodes. But i agree that it is no longer testnet. I only don't know why Andrew is quiet about it:

"The seamless hard fork update mechanism is a major step towards decentralized onchain governance. We consider the Idena blockchain to be switched to the mainnet status once the network becomes capable of seamlessly upgrading protocol versions based on the agreement of the network’s majority. Every validated participant will be empowered to decide which node version to support."
https://medium.com/idena/idena-hard-fork-announcement-d194f8816d37

04.11 we had first seamless upgrade so network is capable of seamlessly upgrading protocol versions so its mainnet

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November 13, 2020, 11:39:52 AM
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Exchanges can list anything they want...
As far as I remember, Hotbit listing was made right after unlocking the developers coins at the end of summer. I am almost sure that these coins were used to pay for the listing. It does not look like a test coin, right?

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November 13, 2020, 12:36:16 PM
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Exchanges can list anything they want...
As far as I remember, Hotbit listing was made right after unlocking the developers coins at the end of summer. I am almost sure that these coins were used to pay for the listing. It does not look like a test coin, right?
At the end of the summer, or rather on August 31, coins were unblocked not by developers, but by early investors and they could not serve as payment, perhaps it was from other funds. more details here https://scan.idena.io/circulation
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November 13, 2020, 06:48:24 PM
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Exchanges can list anything they want. Even ETH placeholder for coin that is not even in Testnet stage. Qtrade listed Idena in February when it was clearly a testnet with less than 200 nodes. But i agree that it is no longer testnet. I only don't know why Andrew is quiet about it:

"The seamless hard fork update mechanism is a major step towards decentralized onchain governance. We consider the Idena blockchain to be switched to the mainnet status once the network becomes capable of seamlessly upgrading protocol versions based on the agreement of the network’s majority. Every validated participant will be empowered to decide which node version to support."
https://medium.com/idena/idena-hard-fork-announcement-d194f8816d37

04.11 we had first seamless upgrade so network is capable of seamlessly upgrading protocol versions so its mainnet

True, maybe they are quiet about it as a precaution measure. If anything goes wrong. Remember the glitch from epoch #46, where half the network were killed/suspended?!

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November 16, 2020, 11:44:12 AM
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Hello All,

I would like to ask that Unnamed Exchange, https://www.unnamed.exchange/, be considered for listing for Idena.  This exchange has many features desirable for listing and is relatively inexpensive at only 0.05 BTC for 8 trading pairs.  There is a troll box where you can promote and tip and has been used effectively by some.  Overall, Unnamed Exchange is a great value!!

Cheers,

Waya

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November 16, 2020, 01:57:02 PM
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At the end of the summer, or rather on August 31, coins were unblocked not by developers, but by early investors and they could not serve as payment, perhaps it was from other funds. more details here https://scan.idena.io/circulation
Oh, my bad. I knew about the existence of a such section in the Idena explorer, but for some reason I was sure of what I wrote above. My mistake. It means that the payment for listing on Hotbit was made from another source.

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November 16, 2020, 05:39:32 PM
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Hello All,

I would like to ask that Unnamed Exchange, cut link , be considered for listing for Idena.  This exchange has many features desirable for listing and is relatively inexpensive at only 0.05 BTC for 8 trading pairs.  There is a troll box where you can promote and tip and has been used effectively by some.  Overall, Unnamed Exchange is a great value!!

Cheers

a no larger font is needed to read your message. Default is okay.

I don't think that listing on 3rd part exchange worth 0.05BTC. You are not a company, just private and anonymous service handled by one or two people. There is no guarantee that you will operate more than a month or two.





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November 17, 2020, 10:36:55 AM
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Hello All,

I would like to ask that Unnamed Exchange, https://www.unnamed.exchange/, be considered for listing for Idena.  This exchange has many features desirable for listing and is relatively inexpensive at only 0.05 BTC for 8 trading pairs.  There is a troll box where you can promote and tip and has been used effectively by some.  Overall, Unnamed Exchange is a great value!!

Cheers,

Waya

Trading volume is very low even though the listing fee is quite expensive in my opinion around 0.05 BTC, I think idena will be listing on some major exchanges as well as other in the near future, please go to their telegram group to offer this, looks like it will be difficult to get them to want to be listed on a small exchange

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November 17, 2020, 03:08:39 PM
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Looks like we have first AI/human-farm attack. According to this telegram message 700 nodes are connected to single qtrade deposit address.

"this qtrade deposit adress:
https://scan.idena.io/address/0x442FB9F44922e6Ff9e3281753953546942EfFB7B
is connected to 15 nodes:
https://scan.idena.io/address/0xdeC6C15F2E4B06880A361ecBeaf4A47Cc132076b
https://scan.idena.io/address/0x63062137B01B13CfB53F57e1d271Cb6fc406F54b
https://scan.idena.io/address/0x240B38f8809E29FE3257A2bEf95C588b1d24d6c3
https://scan.idena.io/address/0x90962375f5Ce9346596Ea441BC1b9619BCf6277A
https://scan.idena.io/address/0x0ecc4Da09df752Bd0Be6a937E31aC161F15DdE29
https://scan.idena.io/address/0xEA9F20BCb0102f280C13BC4C01893Cc5e3fceb4A
https://scan.idena.io/address/0x104c1C8F89e414baD8dCF27b8Bb16eC31b28dFB3
https://scan.idena.io/address/0x37590b1dA8Ef2Aa12AD760087e70F20E7316A042
https://scan.idena.io/address/0x85a93785cFD0b6d6dB57e39f25af445AD89851a9
https://scan.idena.io/address/0x4C08CF3Fd4CA78EFaE881cA83c4dA0895cf876eE
https://scan.idena.io/address/0x53C34539ad373412129198F51dCBD1cEa8814876
https://scan.idena.io/address/0x1E0D0E1b9e97d2A3689381CE67B3A8ccA33312A1
https://scan.idena.io/address/0x28f4B70Bd1291AECf8e1f695674Ad41c525a3d2a
These 15 nodes collect founds from ~50 small (1-5 epoch old) nodes each. This farm of at least 700 nodes belong to 1 person and minned 140k iDNA during 1.5 epoch. 10-15% of all indena nodes belong to 1 person and it was all achieved during 4-5 validations. He will have more than half nodes in next few epochs."
https://t.me/idena_trading/30534

No official response yet.

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November 17, 2020, 07:59:51 PM
 #1717

Looks like we have first AI/human-farm attack. According to this telegram message 700 nodes are connected to single qtrade deposit address.

"this qtrade deposit adress:
https://scan.idena.io/address/0x442FB9F44922e6Ff9e3281753953546942EfFB7B
is connected to 15 nodes:
https://scan.idena.io/address/0xdeC6C15F2E4B06880A361ecBeaf4A47Cc132076b
https://scan.idena.io/address/0x63062137B01B13CfB53F57e1d271Cb6fc406F54b
https://scan.idena.io/address/0x240B38f8809E29FE3257A2bEf95C588b1d24d6c3
https://scan.idena.io/address/0x90962375f5Ce9346596Ea441BC1b9619BCf6277A
https://scan.idena.io/address/0x0ecc4Da09df752Bd0Be6a937E31aC161F15DdE29
https://scan.idena.io/address/0xEA9F20BCb0102f280C13BC4C01893Cc5e3fceb4A
https://scan.idena.io/address/0x104c1C8F89e414baD8dCF27b8Bb16eC31b28dFB3
https://scan.idena.io/address/0x37590b1dA8Ef2Aa12AD760087e70F20E7316A042
https://scan.idena.io/address/0x85a93785cFD0b6d6dB57e39f25af445AD89851a9
https://scan.idena.io/address/0x4C08CF3Fd4CA78EFaE881cA83c4dA0895cf876eE
https://scan.idena.io/address/0x53C34539ad373412129198F51dCBD1cEa8814876
https://scan.idena.io/address/0x1E0D0E1b9e97d2A3689381CE67B3A8ccA33312A1
https://scan.idena.io/address/0x28f4B70Bd1291AECf8e1f695674Ad41c525a3d2a
These 15 nodes collect founds from ~50 small (1-5 epoch old) nodes each. This farm of at least 700 nodes belong to 1 person and minned 140k iDNA during 1.5 epoch. 10-15% of all indena nodes belong to 1 person and it was all achieved during 4-5 validations. He will have more than half nodes in next few epochs."
https://t.me/idena_trading/30534

No official response yet.


How is that possible? How can a bot solve the flips?
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November 17, 2020, 09:41:21 PM
 #1718

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How is that possible? How can a bot solve the flips?

artificial intelligence is very advanced, there are many services they offer captcha solving for cheap money. I am not surprised.
Even if that, I am surprised how scammers they always find a way to cheat. they expend a lot of energy and knowledge to create a whole system of fraud. if they spent that energy on something real, they would probably make maybe more money from there.





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November 18, 2020, 07:06:21 AM
 #1719

Nothing is official now. We need to wait for announcement. It could be anything. Price is quite stable considering such bad news. If thats not the end of IDENA (it could be) ... definitely its the bottom.

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November 18, 2020, 10:22:56 AM
Last edit: November 18, 2020, 11:10:16 AM by Anthrogic
 #1720

Looks like we have first AI/human-farm attack. According to this telegram message 700 nodes are connected to single qtrade deposit address.

"this qtrade deposit adress:
https://scan.idena.io/address/0x442FB9F44922e6Ff9e3281753953546942EfFB7B
is connected to 15 nodes:
https://scan.idena.io/address/0xdeC6C15F2E4B06880A361ecBeaf4A47Cc132076b
https://scan.idena.io/address/0x63062137B01B13CfB53F57e1d271Cb6fc406F54b
https://scan.idena.io/address/0x240B38f8809E29FE3257A2bEf95C588b1d24d6c3
https://scan.idena.io/address/0x90962375f5Ce9346596Ea441BC1b9619BCf6277A
https://scan.idena.io/address/0x0ecc4Da09df752Bd0Be6a937E31aC161F15DdE29
https://scan.idena.io/address/0xEA9F20BCb0102f280C13BC4C01893Cc5e3fceb4A
https://scan.idena.io/address/0x104c1C8F89e414baD8dCF27b8Bb16eC31b28dFB3
https://scan.idena.io/address/0x37590b1dA8Ef2Aa12AD760087e70F20E7316A042
https://scan.idena.io/address/0x85a93785cFD0b6d6dB57e39f25af445AD89851a9
https://scan.idena.io/address/0x4C08CF3Fd4CA78EFaE881cA83c4dA0895cf876eE
https://scan.idena.io/address/0x53C34539ad373412129198F51dCBD1cEa8814876
https://scan.idena.io/address/0x1E0D0E1b9e97d2A3689381CE67B3A8ccA33312A1
https://scan.idena.io/address/0x28f4B70Bd1291AECf8e1f695674Ad41c525a3d2a
These 15 nodes collect founds from ~50 small (1-5 epoch old) nodes each. This farm of at least 700 nodes belong to 1 person and minned 140k iDNA during 1.5 epoch. 10-15% of all indena nodes belong to 1 person and it was all achieved during 4-5 validations. He will have more than half nodes in next few epochs."
https://t.me/idena_trading/30534

No official response yet.


I'd like to note there is currently NO evidence these nodes all belong to one person, there are other possible explanations, such as someone hiring others to solve/make flips for a cut (unknowing about Idena as a whole), scammers, etc. We will likely get an official response on the matter soon enough. I'm personally not too worried, since it's unlikely one person actually controls all these nodes and could cause any havoc at the current stage of things.

Not to mention they are clearly not too worried about this getting noticed, since they used the same Qtrade address repeatedly.

Edit: New client update appears it may have solved the issue. This post didn't age well D:
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