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January 25, 2021, 07:40:58 PM
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a few days ago i saw some information saying if we can mine idena for free, is that true? If true, to be honest I would like to do it but unfortunately the information does not provide clear details and is there anyone here that can provide accurate information about mining on the Idena platform and does Idena mining have an application that can be used on a smartphone? Can the OP provide information about the mining to me or is there a link I can get to learn about mining idena?

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January 25, 2021, 08:48:11 PM
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Can the OP provide information about the mining to me or is there a link I can get to learn about mining idena?

In short:

IDENA uses a kind of proof of stake mining system with validations. All miners need to make a kind of test at the same time to prove behind every node there is a human. When validated (around every 15 days) you can mine until the next validation. 

I know, it sounds weird. Take your time and read about it. 

More info:

https://idena.io/?view=technology

https://t.me/IdenaNetworkPublic

example of validation process:

https://youtu.be/Bb5tE9Y7M4c 


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January 25, 2021, 10:38:12 PM
 #1863

Can the OP provide information about the mining to me or is there a link I can get to learn about mining idena?
In short:

IDENA uses a kind of proof of stake mining system with validations. All miners need to make a kind of test at the same time to prove behind every node there is a human. When validated (around every 15 days) you can mine until the next validation. 

I know, it sounds weird. Take your time and read about it.

I have found new hobbie. I look for YouTube channels that are covering POW mining, then I find their Discord server and start discussion about POW and how it's inferior to Proof-Of-Person. It realy gets interesting sometimes.

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January 26, 2021, 12:44:11 PM
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The next update of the IDENA client has been released: 0.20.0

Changes:
- Showing the number of new votings in todo list
- Handling app URL  for raw transactions: dna://raw/
- Translation update: Japanese
- Bug fixes

An update is  recommended

A source:https://t.me/IdenaAnnouncements/687

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January 26, 2021, 01:59:47 PM
 #1865

Hello, there is new oracle voting for supporting my_idena mobile app development, please check it out and place your vote.
Fine example of oracle usecase for community governance.

Do you support the Idena mobile app development by @redDwarf03?

There is Idena mobile app developed by @redDwarf03:
https://apps.apple.com/us/app/my-idena/id1535914607
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=io.reddwarf.my_idena
It's a community-driven development that could be supported with Idena foundation wallet funds.

There are 5000 iDNA blocked at the OracleLock address:
0x7a7c9eb1ff4e7df0889637bc3b19a38b8bedcf19

In case of 51% support, the funds will be automatically unlocked in favor of the wallet of @redDwarf03:
0xf429e36D68BE10428D730784391589572Ee0f72B

Otherwise, the coins will be returned to the foundation wallet:
0xcbb98843270812eeCE07BFb82d26b4881a33aA91

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January 26, 2021, 02:13:06 PM
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Hello, there is new oracle voting for supporting my_idena mobile app development, please check it out and place your vote.
Fine example of oracle usecase for community governance.

Do you support the Idena mobile app development by @redDwarf03?

There is Idena mobile app developed by @redDwarf03:
https://apps.apple.com/us/app/my-idena/id1535914607
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=io.reddwarf.my_idena
It's a community-driven development that could be supported with Idena foundation wallet funds.

There are 5000 iDNA blocked at the OracleLock address:
0x7a7c9eb1ff4e7df0889637bc3b19a38b8bedcf19

In case of 51% support, the funds will be automatically unlocked in favor of the wallet of @redDwarf03:
0xf429e36D68BE10428D730784391589572Ee0f72B

Otherwise, the coins will be returned to the foundation wallet:
0xcbb98843270812eeCE07BFb82d26b4881a33aA91
I saw this vote, and it is available to me this time, and voted for it, it is necessary to support the developer, the mobile application is necessary and useful for the community Wink


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January 27, 2021, 03:51:09 AM
 #1867

I saw this vote, and it is available to me this time, and voted for it, it is necessary to support the developer, the mobile application is necessary and useful for the community Wink

yes guys support so you can do validation on mobile  Grin but you still shared node or setup Virtual Private Server run your own node

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 #1868

I saw this vote, and it is available to me this time, and voted for it, it is necessary to support the developer, the mobile application is necessary and useful for the community Wink

yes guys support so you can do validation on mobile  Grin but you still shared node or setup Virtual Private Server run your own node
Of course, this is only a client that is installed on your mobile phone ,the node itself must stand in a different place on a PC or VPS , but nevertheless it can be very convenient and useful  Wink


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January 28, 2021, 04:47:54 AM
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 #1869

Hello friends, I'm pleased to introduce new version of idena.site

It has been reorganised to act as a Introduction to Idena blog which will explain in simple way how to start with idena for people that are not very familiar with blockchain or crypto.

- It's constructed to support multiple languages, (EN, and ex-YU are here for start)
- Dark/light mode

It will be updated with new texts and features as time goes on.

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January 28, 2021, 04:53:06 PM
 #1870

In case of 51% support, the funds will be automatically unlocked in favor of the wallet of @redDwarf03:
0xf429e36D68BE10428D730784391589572Ee0f72B

Otherwise, the coins will be returned to the foundation wallet:
0xcbb98843270812eeCE07BFb82d26b4881a33aA91

So we have first usage of smart contranct and first automatic govermance decision? 0 hype about it? It went out unnoticed? Damn we have to be in last stage of market cycle (depression).

Its 51% of network or 51% of voting nodes?

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January 28, 2021, 05:15:54 PM
 #1871

So we have first usage of smart contranct and first automatic govermance decision? 0 hype about it? It went out unnoticed? Damn we have to be in last stage of market cycle (depression).

Its 51% of network or 51% of voting nodes?



Yeah, very usefull, but focus of general crypto community is in defi clouds, sadly.

As I understand it 5397 can vote, 54 are required to vote so we have quorum (enough people so the voting is valid)
and from any number above 54 people, we need 51% of them, so desicion can be made. (My grammar is terrible... I hope it's understandable)

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 #1872

So we have first usage of smart contranct and first automatic govermance decision? 0 hype about it? It went out unnoticed? Damn we have to be in last stage of market cycle (depression).

Its 51% of network or 51% of voting nodes?



Yeah, very usefull, but focus of general crypto community is in defi clouds, sadly.

As I understand it 5397 can vote, 54 are required to vote so we have quorum (enough people so the voting is valid)
and from any number above 54 people, we need 51% of them, so desicion can be made. (My grammar is terrible... I hope it's understandable)
As I understand it, the end of the vote will come in 4 days (1.02.2021) and we will know the results of this vote


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January 29, 2021, 10:35:50 AM
 #1873

Yeah, very usefull, but focus of general crypto community is in defi clouds, sadly.

Maybe new binance lauchpool will throw some attention on identity on blockchain solutions.

https://research.binance.com/en/projects/litentry

"Litentry is a decentralized identity aggregation protocol across multiple networks, featuring a Decentralized Identity (DID) indexing mechanism and a Substrate-based credit computation network."

Its completly different story but ... might build some hype around idena in next few days.

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February 04, 2021, 06:37:58 PM
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In a few months, I am opening a small private cinema for several people, in which, in addition to the national currency, I will accept payments in iDNA. Here https://t.me/idenapay , at times, I will talk about the progress of affairs and share my observations.

I understand that this is a drop in the ocean, but you have to start somewhere.

I wish the developers patience.

Good luck!

Sorry for possible mistakes, I'm not a native English speaker
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February 05, 2021, 03:51:16 PM
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In a few months, I am opening a small private cinema for several people, in which, in addition to the national currency, I will accept payments in iDNA. Here https://t.me/idenapay , at times, I will talk about the progress of affairs and share my observations.

I understand that this is a drop in the ocean, but you have to start somewhere.

I wish the developers patience.

Good luck!

Sorry for possible mistakes, I'm not a native English speaker

Where do you come from ? maybe i can visit your home and pay my idena to watch cinema with you  Grin
I think it is a full support for IDENA, making IDENA known by many people. If you have a shop, IDENA may be used as a means of payment
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February 05, 2021, 08:51:35 PM
 #1876

The Idena validation results

5644 identities are validated:
https://scan.idena.io/epoch/63/validation

Validation rewards paid:
https://scan.idena.io/epoch/63/rewards

Minimum Total score for Humans to get the second invitation and Verified to get an invitation: 100%

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February 06, 2021, 08:49:50 AM
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I think Identity total score is somehow rigged.  Grin Is there a bug in the calculation, or am I missing something else?

I have a total score of 89.06% but if I take my last 10 epoch and make the calculations I get:
- short session: 92.167%
- long Session: 96.521%
= average: 94.344%

I wonder how the protocol got 89.06% ?

Note: I don't complain, since I don't use the invites, and I don't care too much about 1non-spent invite reward, but maybe there are people around affected by this issue (if this is an issue).
Made some digging since it just popped into my eyes that I am not Human anymore and I am Verified.

If you want to have a look: https://scan.idena.io/address/0xb98f5b979efd32174c54c0b7d20b759e4a1e03c4




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February 06, 2021, 09:20:34 AM
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I think Identity total score is somehow rigged.  Grin Is there a bug in the calculation, or am I missing something else?

I have a total score of 89.06% but if I take my last 10 epoch and make the calculations I get:
- short session: 92.167%
- long Session: 96.521%
= average: 94.344%

I wonder how the protocol got 89.06% ?

Note: I don't complain, since I don't use the invites, and I don't care too much about 1non-spent invite reward, but maybe there are people around affected by this issue (if this is an issue).
Made some digging since it just popped into my eyes that I am not Human anymore and I am Verified.

If you want to have a look: https://scan.idena.io/address/0xb98f5b979efd32174c54c0b7d20b759e4a1e03c4


I am not sure why you are confused here everything seems very clear to me. When checking your last validation, you had a 66.7% (4/6) or https://scan.idena.io/identity/0xb98f5b979efd32174c54c0b7d20b759e4a1e03c4/epoch/63/validation
Also one before just 80% (4/5) https://scan.idena.io/identity/0xb98f5b979efd32174c54c0b7d20b759e4a1e03c4/epoch/62/validation

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February 06, 2021, 09:30:58 AM
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I am not sure why you are confused here everything seems very clear to me. When checking your last validation, you had a 66.7% (4/6) or https://scan.idena.io/identity/0xb98f5b979efd32174c54c0b7d20b759e4a1e03c4/epoch/63/validation
Also one before just 80% (4/5) https://scan.idena.io/identity/0xb98f5b979efd32174c54c0b7d20b759e4a1e03c4/epoch/62/validation


True, but the total score is the average of the last 10 validations. Which is 92.167% not 89.06%
This is why I am confused.

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February 06, 2021, 11:11:58 AM
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I had a couple questions.

I can miss a session because I am human and will go to suspended.

1. If I have an invite out, will I still get the invite rewards if I miss that specific validation?
2. If I terminate my identity to get my stake, will the invite rewards I get in the next epoch(s) still come through even after I terminated?
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