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September 18, 2020, 03:22:24 PM
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This post is only a unsolicited advice for this thread, what if the dev/OP of this thread make some changes and make an Official ANN for Idena? I think it will help a lot to recognize more this good project. What do you think guys?

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September 19, 2020, 11:29:25 AM
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Introducing predefined smart contracts
Motivation: As a fully functional smart contract layer takes significant development time, we are to release a set of predefined smart contract primitives. These smart contracts can be combined as building blocks to achieve a complex money flow driven by oracles’ decisions. If A happens then send coins to address B otherwise then if C happens then send coins to address D otherwise make a refund to all initial contributors. A and C are some facts that are certified by randomly selected Idena participants.
These primitives can be used for community-driven funding, prediction markets, dispute resolutions, paid votings, paid polls, games and etc.
The following list of predefined smart contracts will be available for anyone to use:
TimeLock — Lock coins on the smart contract address until a specified block number. Once the block number is mined the coins can be transferred to the specified address.
Multisig M-of-N — a multisignature wallet address with specified M and N. In order to send coins from the multisig M specific participants out of N have to provide their signatures.
OracleVoting — Oracle voting contract. The smart contract can control coins locked by EvidenceLock or RefundableEvidenceLock smart contracts.
EvidenceLock — a non-refundable smart contract that locks coins until a decision is made by oracles. If the voting result matches the expected value then coins are transferred to the address A otherwise to the address B. Both addresses have to be specified beforehand.
RefundableEvidenceLock — a refundable smart contract address that locks coins until a decision is made by oracles. It works similarly to the EvidenceLock, however it can provide a refund if either A address or B address is not specified. The refund is provided proportionally to the initial deposit made by an address.
In order to use these smart contracts, the Idena app development is to be finished (ETA end of Q4 2020). Until that these smart contracts won’t be available: An additional hard fork update is planned to enable these contracts.
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September 19, 2020, 01:13:10 PM
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Introducing predefined smart contracts
Motivation: As a fully functional smart contract layer takes significant development time, we are to release a set of predefined smart contract primitives. These smart contracts can be combined as building blocks to achieve a complex money flow driven by oracles’ decisions. If A happens then send coins to address B otherwise then if C happens then send coins to address D otherwise make a refund to all initial contributors. A and C are some facts that are certified by randomly selected Idena participants.
These primitives can be used for community-driven funding, prediction markets, dispute resolutions, paid votings, paid polls, games and etc.
The following list of predefined smart contracts will be available for anyone to use:
TimeLock — Lock coins on the smart contract address until a specified block number. Once the block number is mined the coins can be transferred to the specified address.
Multisig M-of-N — a multisignature wallet address with specified M and N. In order to send coins from the multisig M specific participants out of N have to provide their signatures.
OracleVoting — Oracle voting contract. The smart contract can control coins locked by EvidenceLock or RefundableEvidenceLock smart contracts.
EvidenceLock — a non-refundable smart contract that locks coins until a decision is made by oracles. If the voting result matches the expected value then coins are transferred to the address A otherwise to the address B. Both addresses have to be specified beforehand.
RefundableEvidenceLock — a refundable smart contract address that locks coins until a decision is made by oracles. It works similarly to the EvidenceLock, however it can provide a refund if either A address or B address is not specified. The refund is provided proportionally to the initial deposit made by an address.
In order to use these smart contracts, the Idena app development is to be finished (ETA end of Q4 2020). Until that these smart contracts won’t be available: An additional hard fork update is planned to enable these contracts.


Is that the upcoming hardfork, or is another one planned to implement this? Either way this is a pretty big deal. zso many people are blind to this project, hopefully updates like this will open their eyes soon.
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September 19, 2020, 01:19:16 PM
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Is that the upcoming hardfork, or is another one planned to implement this? Either way this is a pretty big deal. zso many people are blind to this project, hopefully updates like this will open their eyes soon.

Hard forks are quite often in here - experimental mainnet. I think we will have at least 2 more before end of 2021 - when smart contracts will be released.

closest hard fork changes that will affect network 23 sep 2020:

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2. Flip reporting system improvement
3. Flip lottery improvement
4. Last 10 epochs results to calculate the total score
5. Invitations distribution improvement
6. Restricting the stake withdrawal address
7. Gas model for transaction fees
8. Peering improvement

hopefully updates like this will open their eyes soon.

Naaah. Money loves silence ... Smart money needs time accumulate. Then 100x pump and then hype and every influencer talking about idena so that dump money could jump on the top of the new tech bubble and loss money again. Thats why everyone is talking about DEFI now (not when projects like Link was in accumulation zone 2017-2020). Its the top of the DEFI bubble - you know that by looking at alt section seeing 70% topics being about DEFI.

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September 19, 2020, 06:20:12 PM
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In my opinion for now it is crucial to have sharding implemented (at least for validation session) rather than smart contracts and oracle. Because the second is only required when the network has a lot of users.

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September 20, 2020, 06:12:24 AM
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Sorry was not much active here can some explain what was the main reason for them to do a hard fork of the network? and is everything is alright right now? When is the hard fork scheduled for?
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September 20, 2020, 09:49:09 AM
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Sorry was not much active here can some explain what was the main reason for them to do a hard fork of the network? and is everything is alright right now? When is the hard fork scheduled for?
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There is no hardfork scheduled in the coming days as far as I know. Last ford was a long time ago and was to implement some features/changes into the validation (6 flips instead of 5, more words to choose from,etc).
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September 20, 2020, 10:34:46 AM
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Sorry was not much active here can some explain what was the main reason for them to do a hard fork of the network? and is everything is alright right now? When is the hard fork scheduled for?
Thanks

Everything is alright. Hardfork is scheduled for September 23, 2020 (in about 3 days).

https://medium.com/idena/idena-hard-fork-announcement-b8e36ee756bb

Main reason? I was already writing here about changes. I'll quote it once again.

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1. Introducing increased flip rewards
2. Flip reporting system improvement
3. Flip lottery improvement
4. Last 10 epochs results to calculate the total score
5. Invitations distribution improvement
6. Restricting the stake withdrawal address
7. Gas model for transaction fees
8. Peering improvement

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September 20, 2020, 12:43:40 PM
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Unfortunately, AFAIK, smart-contracts aren't available in this hardfork.

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September 20, 2020, 01:29:35 PM
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Unfortunately, AFAIK, smart-contracts aren't available in this hardfork.

No, that will be in a future fork. This is still the beginning, it is a new idea of a project so there will need to be many improvements as the time goes on and more problems arrive.
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September 20, 2020, 06:20:59 PM
 #1511

Unfortunately, AFAIK, smart-contracts aren't available in this hardfork.

No, that will be in a future fork. This is still the beginning, it is a new idea of a project so there will need to be many improvements as the time goes on and more problems arrive.

do we have to do anything other than updating the client for the hardfork ? I'm running the latest build in a VPS


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September 20, 2020, 06:21:09 PM
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Idena Flip school recently closed (https://t.me/idenaflipschool).

Now there is this option:
1 - log In to the website https://idena.codes/ with a fully synchronized version.

2 - Complete the challenge by the decision of the flips: https://idena.codes/#FlipChallenge.

3 - Fill out the form: https://forms.gle/oLAnq7g4n72uunPG8.

After completing these steps successfully, you will be contacted and your address will be activated.
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September 20, 2020, 06:23:24 PM
 #1513

Unfortunately, AFAIK, smart-contracts aren't available in this hardfork.

No, that will be in a future fork. This is still the beginning, it is a new idea of a project so there will need to be many improvements as the time goes on and more problems arrive.

do we have to do anything other than updating the client for the hardfork ? I'm running the latest build in a VPS
No, the maximum that will need to be done is to update the version of the node and the client. But just in case, it's better to keep an eye on updates.
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September 21, 2020, 10:38:15 AM
 #1514

if someone needs an invite, i still have one to share
there is an only requirement to have fully synchronized node, before sending an invite

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September 21, 2020, 02:29:27 PM
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I got my first mining penalty Sad last night. Im not even sure what happened, when I woke up I checked and my vps node was off. I checked my logs and I did not see anything to cause it. I'm going to create a cronjob to avoid this in the future.
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September 21, 2020, 07:23:17 PM
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I got my first mining penalty Sad last night. Im not even sure what happened, when I woke up I checked and my vps node was off. I checked my logs and I did not see anything to cause it. I'm going to create a cronjob to avoid this in the future.

Hi buddy, to avoid this problem in the future you can add your node to the telegram bot ( @idna_node_watcher_Bot ) and it will alert you when your node is inactive for more than 15min, this way you avoid the penalty.

I have a cronjob in all my nodes to restart the server every 24 hours, it has never given me problems, I hope it helps you...
restart the computer at 11AM every day "0 11   * * *    /sbin/shutdown -r +5"
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September 22, 2020, 09:20:03 AM
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I got my first mining penalty Sad last night. Im not even sure what happened, when I woke up I checked and my vps node was off. I checked my logs and I did not see anything to cause it. I'm going to create a cronjob to avoid this in the future.

Hi buddy, to avoid this problem in the future you can add your node to the telegram bot ( @idna_node_watcher_Bot ) and it will alert you when your node is inactive for more than 15min, this way you avoid the penalty.

I have a cronjob in all my nodes to restart the server every 24 hours, it has never given me problems, I hope it helps you...
restart the computer at 11AM every day "0 11   * * *    /sbin/shutdown -r +5"


You can also use realRioda's website notifier on idena.site to avoid downtime. But it works only if you are awake and near your PC since you have under 1h to restart the node.
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September 23, 2020, 06:01:12 AM
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Everyone ready for today hardfork? It is planned from 12:30 to 13:30 UTC. All mining status will be deactivated. You will have to update node to start mining again (It's good to update ASAP to mine faster (with lower difficulty) before others update their nodes).

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Dear Idena community,

We plan to release a new version of the Idena node tomorrow, on September 23, 2020, from 12:30 to 13:30 UTC.

It will be a hard fork. The miner status for all validated nodes will be deactivated in the new version. Please be ready for the update.

Planned changes:
- Introducing increased flip rewards
- Flip reporting system improvement
- Flip lottery improvement
- Last 10 epochs results to calculate the total score
- Invitations distribution improvement
- Restricting the stake withdrawal address
- Gas model for transaction fees
- Introducing predefined smart contracts
- Peering improvement

Please see the details here: https://medium.com/idena/idena-hard-fork-announcement-b8e36ee756bb

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September 23, 2020, 06:43:27 AM
 #1519

Everyone ready for today hardfork? It is planned from 12:30 to 13:30 UTC. All mining status will be deactivated. You will have to update node to start mining again (It's good to update ASAP to mine faster (with lower difficulty) before others update their nodes).

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Dear Idena community,

We plan to release a new version of the Idena node tomorrow, on September 23, 2020, from 12:30 to 13:30 UTC.

It will be a hard fork. The miner status for all validated nodes will be deactivated in the new version. Please be ready for the update.

Planned changes:
- Introducing increased flip rewards
- Flip reporting system improvement
- Flip lottery improvement
- Last 10 epochs results to calculate the total score
- Invitations distribution improvement
- Restricting the stake withdrawal address
- Gas model for transaction fees
- Introducing predefined smart contracts
- Peering improvement

Please see the details here: https://medium.com/idena/idena-hard-fork-announcement-b8e36ee756bb

I was waiting for a while now for this after the last epoch. will update asap, once the notification show update option for the new version.


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New Age of DEFI
A Non-Code Platform for
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September 23, 2020, 07:01:54 AM
 #1520

Thanks for the heads-up guys, I will update asap my node too. Anyone knows what is the latest version - the hardfork version - so I will update to the latest one? Is already out?
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