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SPT, while I hate that there won't be a product like the SP20 offered moving forward I certainly don't fault you for moving to where your best stream of revenue is- you are a business. I do have to say out of my S3,4,5's, and SP20's the SP20 is hands down my favorite.
In this space of miners you will be missed but good luck and best wishes.
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February 27, 2015, 08:31:29 PM |
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February 27, 2015, 08:41:16 PM |
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Will home miners forced out still use Bitcoin or would they start following some alt they could mine?
If it all comes down to a few big miners, why keep using the coin?
Why wouldn't you? Are you saying you are using Bitcoin only for its home mining friendliness?? You are missing some good things this technology has to offer. [...] 3) We'll sell it with Rack mount and PSUs
I'm starting a mining business and have about 180 kW of power which puts me about as a small/medium buyer. I understand the attractiveness of rack mount with PSUs included miners for the bulk buyer. However, I found the price premium for this too expensive. My last buying order, I opted for SP20 which was sold at 366 USD / unit in a 15 units bundle which is about 244 USD / TH.s^-1 (Without PSU). The SP31 is now at 430 USD / TH.s^-1 with PSU. The choice was clear from a buyer standpoint to take the SP20 and buy the PSU somewhere else. I don't know if this premium is the result of a desire to liquidate your SP20 inventory, but if it is the result of a manufacturing cost... I think you should let the miners provide the PSU. I'm eager to see what SP will have to offer in the near futur. My order with them went really well and unfortunately for me, the SP20 being out of stock without alternative, is delaying my expansion project. I knew I worded my question incorrectly and should have clarified. I think it was Guy but may have been someone else who said we would end up with 1 or 2 companies left. If we truly end up with one or two companies controlling 99% of the mining then it isn't the coin I fell in love with. At that point or even close to it no, I would not use it anymore.
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Transaction fees go to the pools and the pools decide to pay them to the miners. Anything else, including off-chain solutions are stealing and not the way Bitcoin was intended to function. Make the block size set by the pool. Pool = miners and they get the choice.
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February 27, 2015, 09:04:06 PM |
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February 27, 2015, 09:06:44 PM |
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Not really independently verified since Rossi was directly involved in the test.
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Buy & Hold
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February 27, 2015, 09:07:34 PM |
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Wow this would be amazing. Can you imagine not having to be tied to the grid and the price manipulations. Just so cool.
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February 27, 2015, 09:09:01 PM |
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Not really independently verified since Rossi was directly involved in the test. I don't believe the E-Cat is real, still a wow was the appropriate reaction after reading it.
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February 27, 2015, 09:10:19 PM |
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In October 2014 a non-peer-reviewed paper by the same authors as the May 2013 report describes results from evaluations in March 2014 of an upgraded version of the E-Cat which runs at higher temperatures. Unlike previous demonstrations, the test was carried out with monitoring equipment and in a laboratory not supplied by Rossi, and was run over an extended duration (32 days).[66] However, as with the previous report, the authors were not in full control of the process yep, not a truly independent testing http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_Catalyzer
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February 27, 2015, 09:34:50 PM |
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Not really independently verified since Rossi was directly involved in the test. I don't believe the E-Cat is real, still a wow was the appropriate reaction after reading it. As in "wow, people still believe this guy isn't full of shit after it's been proven he's a snake oil salesman"?
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February 27, 2015, 09:36:20 PM |
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Not really independently verified since Rossi was directly involved in the test. I don't believe the E-Cat is real, still a wow was the appropriate reaction after reading it. As in "wow, people still believe this guy isn't full of shit after it's been proven he's a snake oil salesman"? No, I must admit it's the first time I heard about it. Again, I didn't believe it, but my initial reaction was "wow".
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February 27, 2015, 09:41:57 PM |
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Not really independently verified since Rossi was directly involved in the test. I don't believe the E-Cat is real, still a wow was the appropriate reaction after reading it. As in "wow, people still believe this guy isn't full of shit after it's been proven he's a snake oil salesman"? No, I must admit it's the first time I heard about it. Again, I didn't believe it, but my initial reaction was "wow". This professor is still around? I thought years ago that they sent him to Nuts-Hill.
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February 27, 2015, 09:55:30 PM |
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I full heartedly agree with your two opening statements. Unfortunately, I don't see how can we survive by implementing your suggestion.
Let me tell you a story and is free to tell the management of your company. We were established in 1996 and we have worked with small customers. thousands of small customers. and by 2000 we still had thousands of small customers as well as two large customer who have worked 95% of the traffic got so until 2008 while one large customer abandoned us. We endured even to 2009 until they appeared layoffs, the sale of assets. The highlight was just today until I signed the application for bankruptcy. I warn partners too dangerous to depend on that one single annual sales carries 40-50% of total sales. Also in my private little hotel I do not allow guests staying more than 30 days, i dont allow guests renting the entire floor for cash to be alone in the house. I still have a Russian customer who offers to rent the entire facility 90 days and pay for it to stay 15 days in total privacy. Once disappear from the market hard to be back. you hit the nail on the head man. if diversification of your customer base is a good goal.
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February 27, 2015, 09:58:05 PM |
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Zoomhash hosting is you send miner to them or they use cloud miner according to plan and machine you buy and length of contract??
Example of Antminer s5 for 1 year is $35/month equals less than .085 electricity and maintenance, and dc space.
Check again Zoomhash is selling hardware from china (s4s) brand new and s3s used with a 5 day turn around.
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February 28, 2015, 01:06:30 AM |
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Zoomhash hosting is you send miner to them or they use cloud miner according to plan and machine you buy and length of contract??
Example of Antminer s5 for 1 year is $35/month equals less than .085 electricity and maintenance, and dc space.
Check again Zoomhash is selling hardware from china (s4s) brand new and s3s used with a 5 day turn around. how legit is zoomhash? I have never ordered from them before.
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February 28, 2015, 01:38:12 AM |
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Zoomhash hosting is you send miner to them or they use cloud miner according to plan and machine you buy and length of contract??
Example of Antminer s5 for 1 year is $35/month equals less than .085 electricity and maintenance, and dc space.
Check again Zoomhash is selling hardware from china (s4s) brand new and s3s used with a 5 day turn around. how legit is zoomhash? I have never ordered from them before. The deliver what they sell. I bought some Gridseeds from them before multiple times and never had an issue.
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February 28, 2015, 01:55:41 AM |
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Zoomhash hosting is you send miner to them or they use cloud miner according to plan and machine you buy and length of contract??
Example of Antminer s5 for 1 year is $35/month equals less than .085 electricity and maintenance, and dc space.
Check again Zoomhash is selling hardware from china (s4s) brand new and s3s used with a 5 day turn around. how legit is zoomhash? I have never ordered from them before. The deliver what they sell. I bought some Gridseeds from them before multiple times and never had an issue. I bought quite a few miners from them in the past & they were ALOT better than GAW in shipping times ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Call them,they used to answer their phones & were very helpful ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) GAW never answered their phones,no one else did either,Bitmain,BFL,or most other sellers http://zoomhash.com/Let us know how it goes ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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February 28, 2015, 04:43:23 AM |
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wow - how the heck did that all happen? To wreck the PCIe connectors on both hashboards and have a pinched ribbon cable? it looks an aweful lot like the one PCIe connector had the plug jammed in incorrectly enough to bend the pin and force a bit of a bridge between 12V and GND
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February 28, 2015, 04:44:39 AM |
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I'll fwd this to barbara.
Auch. How much did you pushed it? *cough*karma*cough*
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I'll fwd this to barbara.
Auch. How much did you pushed it? *cough*karma*cough*youd think it had been OCd but nope - less than 900 at the wall. just managed to get the fkd headers off... ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FHrks7Ll.jpg&t=665&c=slPwwcSYGK6xEQ) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FTBZujKR.jpg&t=665&c=DMMgxW2FfblNhw) plz explain your muffled karma coughing fit... he implied you got what you deserved by running it too hard. At least I see it that way. Now I have no idea what really happened. But to be kind I would like to think the factory pinched that cable and caused the failure. Truth is I will never know so I won't guess either way. As to your fault or factory's. But I think roadstress has guessed it is your fault.
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February 28, 2015, 05:19:39 AM |
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I find the likelihood of factory fault very low. We shipped thousands of SP20, and this is the third or so report. It's probably inadequate cables, but I'm not sure.
We'll ship the components to Edgar, but we can't be responsible for actually fixing it.
Edgar, If you want to ship it back on your expense, we'll attempt to fix it and send it back. I'm not sure it make sense economically.
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