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February 23, 2015, 07:05:22 PM
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""Don't underestimate how important it is that this company is actively resisting pre-orders.
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^^ agreed. It is easy to accept pre-orders but it almost always puts undue pressure on designers and manufacturers as well as tends to build unrealistic expectations on delivery times and performance on untested technology.

Much respect to Spondoolies for their decision process.

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February 23, 2015, 07:06:21 PM
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12U, 16kw, 10 replaceable hashing boards.

What kind of price range can we expect the 3rd gen hardware to cost? Will the price be more than $10,000 or $25,000+? Per 12U unit?
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February 23, 2015, 07:06:57 PM
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Just to be clear.

What means bulk buyer?

50-100kw

100-500kw

500kw-1Mw

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last time was 200 sp20 meaning above 240kw
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February 23, 2015, 07:07:19 PM
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12U, 16kw, 10 replaceable hashing boards.

What kind of price range can we expect the 3rd gen hardware to cost? Will the price be more than $10,000 or $25,000+? Per 12U unit?

I would like to see a target of $8,000 Smiley

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February 23, 2015, 07:08:19 PM
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12U, 16kw, 10 replaceable hashing boards.

What kind of price range can we expect the 3rd gen hardware to cost? Will the price be more than $10,000 or $25,000+? Per 12U unit?

I would like to see a target of $8,000 Smiley

Without knowing the hash rate for this 16,000 watt rig?  I'm supposing it would be about 30 TH/s

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February 23, 2015, 07:09:14 PM
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12U, 16kw, 10 replaceable hashing boards.

What kind of price range can we expect the 3rd gen hardware to cost? Will the price be more than $10,000 or $25,000+? Per 12U unit?

I would like to see a target of $8,000 Smiley

Without knowing the hash rate for this 16,000 watt rig?

I am thinking in the 40 TH/s range for ~$8,000

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February 23, 2015, 07:10:41 PM
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12U, 16kw, 10 replaceable hashing boards.

What kind of price range can we expect the 3rd gen hardware to cost? Will the price be more than $10,000 or $25,000+? Per 12U unit?

I would like to see a target of $8,000 Smiley

Without knowing the hash rate for this 16,000 watt rig?

I am thinking in the 40 TH/s range for ~$8,000

I was thinking 30 TH/s range with 16,000 watts and .51 watts per GH

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February 23, 2015, 07:16:43 PM
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12U, 16kw, 10 replaceable hashing boards.

What kind of price range can we expect the 3rd gen hardware to cost? Will the price be more than $10,000 or $25,000+? Per 12U unit?

I would like to see a target of $8,000 Smiley

Without knowing the hash rate for this 16,000 watt rig?

I am thinking in the 40 TH/s range for ~$8,000

It would more than likely be around $12,600.00 to $14,200.00 if it were a 30 TH/s rig with built in PSU's.

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February 23, 2015, 07:51:28 PM
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The following "requirements" don't require a new chip design:

"I was thinking 30 TH/s range with 16,000 watts and .51 watts per GH"

The above, except possibly for cost, can be done with roughly 30 SP20's. It can easily be donwclocked to make the .51 W/GH without trouble.
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February 23, 2015, 08:00:45 PM
Last edit: February 23, 2015, 08:10:56 PM by dmeter
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all new 16nm FF+ turbo is 15 % faster to16 nm FF chips 16 FF nm around 40% faster of 20 nm chips or 75% of 28 nm chips

0,125 gh/w standard or 0,2 gh/w turbo
SP-100 be 100 TH machine in cold or  80 th turbo.
but we must wait next year
because all 3 manufacture have problem Samsung,TSMC,Intel
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February 23, 2015, 08:16:08 PM
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12U, 16kw, 10 replaceable hashing boards.

What kind of price range can we expect the 3rd gen hardware to cost? Will the price be more than $10,000 or $25,000+? Per 12U unit?

I would like to see a target of $8,000 Smiley

Without knowing the hash rate for this 16,000 watt rig?

I am thinking in the 40 TH/s range for ~$8,000

I think what Guy was talking about is franchising, so you might even not own anything.
SPT will hire a franchise to host multiple miners presumably on a revenue sharing basis plus some support contract.
Obviously, it (franchising and contracting) would make little sense for one SP100.
I don't want to put words in anybodies mouth, but this is how it sounded to me.

On the other hand, making something like a kibbutz out of it is perhaps a solid idea.
Say, a facility with 5-10 SP100 with machines paid for by five people or so.
hosting partner would be the one contacting SPT for service.
It could work, I think.
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February 23, 2015, 08:31:33 PM
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all new 16nm FF+ turbo is 15 % faster to16 nm FF chips 16 FF nm around 40% faster of 20 nm chips or 75% of 28 nm chips

0,125 gh/w standard or 0,2 gh/w turbo
SP-100 be 100 TH machine in cold or  80 th turbo.
but we must wait next year
because all 3 manufacture have problem Samsung,TSMC,Intel


16nm over rated.  Bitfury is still squeezing out under .3 efficiency at 28nm

But by next year diff will be 100-120 billion
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February 23, 2015, 08:38:25 PM
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I think what Guy was talking about is franchising, so you might even not own anything.
SPT will hire a franchise to host multiple miners presumably on a revenue sharing basis plus some support contract.
Obviously, it (franchising and contracting) would make little sense for one SP100.
I don't want to put words in anybodies mouth, but this is how it sounded to me.

On the other hand, making something like a kibbutz out of it is perhaps a solid idea.
Say, a facility with 5-10 SP100 with machines paid for by five people or so.
hosting partner would be the one contacting SPT for service.
It could work, I think.


Just my opinion, but franchising instead of owning isn't something I'd be comfortable with.

I could, however, get behind (and potentially facilitate) something like the "kibbutz" with a half dozen or so machines owned by individuals.

Still rather see a <1KW relatively quiet miner for individuals. Maybe we'll have to make it ourselves.

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February 23, 2015, 08:45:41 PM
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We intend to allow quick upgrade between our 3rd and future gens.
We'll probably manufacture the hashing boards closer to the packaging house and ship them by air, while the chassis will be shipped by sea or be manufactured closer to the deployment locations.

I just came back to read this. I'm pleased by the news.

We won't take pre-orders until the technology will be proven. Afterwards, we might, depending on the market and our funding situation. I find it very unlikely.

I want to do another pre-order GB just for the fun of it! (also for the betting)

Group Buy.

Problem Solved.

If I arrange one will you be the first?  Grin

The group buys were nice PR, not a real commercial success.

You can never have enough PR.

Our warehouse here is ready with 1.5 MW transformer and 2 cent per kw power.

Do you work with small customers or only bulk?

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February 23, 2015, 09:26:56 PM
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Our warehouse here is ready with 1.5 MW transformer and 2 cent per kw power.

Do you work with small customers or only bulk?

No, we will buy in bulk for our own.

May be later we can make purchase in bulk then we ship it to our warehouse and sell it to customer like what lee do on his S5 group buy here:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=934581.0

We are from Sudan and i don't no if the people will trust us or not.
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February 23, 2015, 10:16:11 PM
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The following "requirements" don't require a new chip design:

"I was thinking 30 TH/s range with 16,000 watts and .51 watts per GH"

The above, except possibly for cost, can be done with roughly 30 SP20's. It can easily be donwclocked to make the .51 W/GH without trouble.

They are on the way, Sir.  Hence, my estimate on costs for this 12U/16kW rig "with" new chips.

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February 23, 2015, 10:22:35 PM
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16nm overrated.  Bitfury is still squeezing out under .3 efficiency at 28nm

But by next year diff will be 100-120 billion
16 nm is not overrated,this is the laws of physics
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February 23, 2015, 10:37:21 PM
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16nm overrated.  Bitfury is still squeezing out under .3 efficiency at 28nm

But by next year diff will be 100-120 billion
16 nm is not overrated,this is the laws of physics

It does and samsung  is proving it.

What i meant is it will work for  the big boys eventually and with mass production  but not so much with asics, its costly and time consuming and i dont think it will  be here by next block halving which is what everyone is pushing  for right now. By then with the difficulty i can only see a few big players left, maybe even only 1 or 2.
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February 24, 2015, 12:41:47 AM
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I'm seeing a lot of denial in this thread... home miners desperately clinging to hope.
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February 24, 2015, 12:55:35 AM
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Group Buy.

Problem Solved.

If I arrange one will you be the first?  Grin


Nope not keen on a single unit... not sure I am keen on financials of any type of mining at this point given the massive amounts of mining still being added to the network as well as the price drop. Also not keen on seen the "wealthiest" Bitcoin holders getting together to "talk" about the future of Bitcoin. I think that doesn't bode well for consumers and users of the coin. Plenty of other better investments out there besides mining.

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