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January 25, 2015, 07:17:52 PM
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hm
i have a sp 31
sp-t ist the best
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January 25, 2015, 07:20:42 PM
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sp-t ist the best
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I have 9 sp20's far better for me in house.

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January 25, 2015, 07:21:03 PM
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cloud mining really ??
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January 25, 2015, 07:39:18 PM
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I am curious-what is the typical response time for support? Isn't Sunday a working day in Israel?
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January 25, 2015, 07:47:55 PM
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Sketchy part is that the fees are currently about 75% of the BTC mined, and the provision allowing them to terminate the contract with no refund to the customer puts the consumer in a weak position, actually a little surprised Spondoolies partnered with them given the gray area the contract puts the consumer in..

  yeah.  I think it is pretty expensive.  you do not own anything physical just a contract that can be cancelled.
the s-5 deal is better you own an s-5 not a contract. plus it is far cheaper per gh to buy it.  and a little cheaper by gh to run it.

Genesis made the first proposal for cloud  hash via spondoolies.

Bitmaintech is making the s-5 proposal own and host  via lee on this thread below:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=934581.0

Genesis needs to do better or won't sell much.

I never understood if you have profitable hardware and set up a farm why would you then offer mining to others via cloud? The only other reason is that the hardware was not paid in full and cloud farm kicks back the supplier.  After dealing with Hashfast I just stay far away from these. I have had great dealings with Spondoolies so far just hope this works out for everybody.  
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January 25, 2015, 08:30:44 PM
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Sketchy part is that the fees are currently about 75% of the BTC mined, and the provision allowing them to terminate the contract with no refund to the customer puts the consumer in a weak position, actually a little surprised Spondoolies partnered with them given the gray area the contract puts the consumer in..

  yeah.  I think it is pretty expensive.  you do not own anything physical just a contract that can be cancelled.
the s-5 deal is better you own an s-5 not a contract. plus it is far cheaper per gh to buy it.  and a little cheaper by gh to run it.

Genesis made the first proposal for cloud  hash via spondoolies.

Bitmaintech is making the s-5 proposal own and host  via lee on this thread below:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=934581.0

Genesis needs to do better or won't sell much.

I never understood if you have profitable hardware and set up a farm why would you then offer mining to others via cloud? The only other reason is that the hardware was not paid in full and cloud farm kicks back the supplier.  After dealing with Hashfast I just stay far away from these. I have had great dealings with Spondoolies so far just hope this works out for everybody.  

IMHO, cloud mining is simply shifting the risk of ROI and etc onto the customers, so that the operator of the cloud mining can pocket the roi and potential profits months ahead and leave all the risks involved solely onto the customer Grin   
and if it all fails then you simply get a message saying " sorry due to unforeseen circumstances cloud mining is closed now" .  At least if you buy the miner and all fails, you can use it as a door stopper or something, with cloud mining  you don't get jack sh!t for it  Cheesy

Put this way, if I had a money printing machine that is profitable why would I want to share it with someone else? would you? unless you know that you would never ever roi so it's better to offload it to a greater fool  Cool
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January 25, 2015, 08:54:10 PM
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cloud mining really ??
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January 25, 2015, 09:22:06 PM
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cloud mining really ??
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LOL...
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January 25, 2015, 09:24:14 PM
Last edit: January 25, 2015, 10:01:17 PM by bobsmoke
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Hello,

I had an increase in problems in one of my SP31...the Loop9 keeps being disabled.
I made 2 upgrades yesterday and is now at version 2.6.1 ... but looks like it continues - please see below:

FW Version 2.6.1

Temp Front / Back T,B 18 °C / 62,47 °C
Socket Voltage 224/225 volt
Fan Speed 80
Start Voltage 0.655 / 0.655
Max Voltage 0.75
Max Watts 1290 / 1290

LOOP[9] OFF TO:0 (test serial failed or something)
27: disabled (i2c good, no OC)
28: disabled (i2c good, no OC)
29: disabled (i2c good, no OC)


messages log has:
Jan 25 21:45:15 miner local1.warn minergate[855]: Loop BAD DATA (0) on 9
Jan 25 21:45:15 miner local1.warn minergate[855]: loop 9 disabled (code 5)
Jan 25 21:45:15 miner local1.warn minergate[855]: Critical: ^[[31mBad loop 9 = set loop as disabled^[[0;0m

Any ideas? .. hard reboot sometimes resolve but it comes back after a while ....

thx
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January 25, 2015, 10:02:59 PM
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Has anyone that has upgraded to firmware 2.6.9 seen slightly slower hash rate? I've flashed 6 SP20's and everyone of then is  10-20GH/s slower vs firmware 2.6.4. Just curious if anyone else is seeing the same.

Yep the same behavior. Less aggressive with the hashrate even if the temp goes down.

On auto fans? Or on any fans?

I tried auto-fan and it's too hot here for my setup in my home. The fan went to 90% on both machine. I run one of them at 40% and the 30% (to avoid an annoying resonating noise)
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January 25, 2015, 10:50:52 PM
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Is it possible to change to PSU efficiency in the formula that calculates "wall watts" ?
I know the preset one is 0.90, but mine are 0.93
If I can update that number in the firmware, I'd have more correct readouts.
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January 26, 2015, 12:50:29 AM
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Interesting observation related to
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Active_noise_control

i have three Sp20 and one S5 in the same room with S5 running with Noctua and Scythe ultra kaze fans (push pull).
I suddenly realized that i have much less noise in comparison when I had just two Sp20 and one S5.
Upon measurement, approximately same amount of noise is coming from each Sp20 at ~69dB and a little less (maybe 64db from S5 with two fans) with all measurements at 1 ft.
However, at the door, just four feet away, the noise already drops to just 61 dB, which is a much faster drop comparing with a single machine.
My point is that most likely some of these miners produce the "anti-noise" (see article).
I set up (accidentally) my three Sp20 in such a way that one is at fan 10 (fixed), one at fan 6 and one at fan 14 (these two on auto).

Right now with all four miners running, I have just 51dB ten feet away and can barely hear them- a great improvement.
My point is that by having multiple machines at the different fan speeds they might produce a canceling anti-noise and the whole setup would be less loud (at least this seemed to happen in my case).
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January 26, 2015, 01:12:56 AM
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which one of those SLOTS labeled as 1,2,3,4 are the slots that power the back chips ?
Thank you !

Slots 1 and 3 powers the two back ASICs on each board

Back being farthest from the fan or closest?

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January 26, 2015, 01:38:17 AM
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Interesting observation related to
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Active_noise_control

i have three Sp20 and one S5 in the same room with S5 running with Noctua and Scythe ultra kaze fans (push pull).
I suddenly realized that i have much less noise in comparison when I had just two Sp20 and one S5.
Upon measurement, approximately same amount of noise is coming from each Sp20 at ~69dB and a little less (maybe 64db from S5 with two fans) with all measurements at 1 ft.
However, at the door, just four feet away, the noise already drops to just 61 dB, which is a much faster drop comparing with a single machine.
My point is that most likely some of these miners produce the "anti-noise" (see article).
I set up (accidentally) my three Sp20 in such a way that one is at fan 10 (fixed), one at fan 6 and one at fan 14 (these two on auto).

Right now with all four miners running, I have just 51dB ten feet away and can barely hear them- a great improvement.
My point is that by having multiple machines at the different fan speeds they might produce a canceling anti-noise and the whole setup would be less loud (at least this seemed to happen in my case).

My dog has ability to move and see at ultra high speed (at nearly 150 FPS). Thats my conclusion after witness him doge a light spark from my fireworks by bending down and lick his balls.

Anything wrong with my conclusion? Should i test this with a Glock?


PS. you didnt understand jack about sound wave let alone calling something "Active Noise Cancellation". Go to a Cinema, buy all the seats then start experiment listening at every seat.....
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January 26, 2015, 01:39:24 AM
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which one of those SLOTS labeled as 1,2,3,4 are the slots that power the back chips ?
Thank you !

Slots 1 and 3 powers the two back ASICs on each board

Back being farthest from the fan or closest?

the closest to the fan run hottest so they would be the back ones.

this is true due to the fan pulling the hot air from the  asics closer to the pcie jacks (front asics)  those two  get cool air  from the grill by the pcie jacks.

90% sure I have it correct.

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January 26, 2015, 01:43:39 AM
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Interesting observation related to
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Active_noise_control

i have three Sp20 and one S5 in the same room with S5 running with Noctua and Scythe ultra kaze fans (push pull).
I suddenly realized that i have much less noise in comparison when I had just two Sp20 and one S5.
Upon measurement, approximately same amount of noise is coming from each Sp20 at ~69dB and a little less (maybe 64db from S5 with two fans) with all measurements at 1 ft.
However, at the door, just four feet away, the noise already drops to just 61 dB, which is a much faster drop comparing with a single machine.
My point is that most likely some of these miners produce the "anti-noise" (see article).
I set up (accidentally) my three Sp20 in such a way that one is at fan 10 (fixed), one at fan 6 and one at fan 14 (these two on auto).

Right now with all four miners running, I have just 51dB ten feet away and can barely hear them- a great improvement.
My point is that by having multiple machines at the different fan speeds they might produce a canceling anti-noise and the whole setup would be less loud (at least this seemed to happen in my case).

My dog has ability to move and see at ultra high speed (at nearly 150 FPS). Thats my conclusion after witness him doge a light spark from my fireworks by bending down and lick his balls.

Anything wrong with my conclusion? Should i test this with a Glock?


PS. you didnt understand jack about sound wave let alone calling something "Active Noise Cancellation". Go to a Cinema, buy all the seats then start experiment listening at every seat.....
Just another confirmation of my theory regarding the correlation between low trust scores and commentary that deserves to be ignored.
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January 26, 2015, 01:56:39 AM
Last edit: January 26, 2015, 02:13:01 AM by Biodom
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Interesting observation related to
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Active_noise_control

i have three Sp20 and one S5 in the same room with S5 running with Noctua and Scythe ultra kaze fans (push pull).
I suddenly realized that i have much less noise in comparison when I had just two Sp20 and one S5.
Upon measurement, approximately same amount of noise is coming from each Sp20 at ~69dB and a little less (maybe 64db from S5 with two fans) with all measurements at 1 ft.
However, at the door, just four feet away, the noise already drops to just 61 dB, which is a much faster drop comparing with a single machine.
My point is that most likely some of these miners produce the "anti-noise" (see article).
I set up (accidentally) my three Sp20 in such a way that one is at fan 10 (fixed), one at fan 6 and one at fan 14 (these two on auto).

Right now with all four miners running, I have just 51dB ten feet away and can barely hear them- a great improvement.
My point is that by having multiple machines at the different fan speeds they might produce a canceling anti-noise and the whole setup would be less loud (at least this seemed to happen in my case).

My dog has ability to move and see at ultra high speed (at nearly 150 FPS). Thats my conclusion after witness him doge a light spark from my fireworks by bending down and lick his balls.

Anything wrong with my conclusion? Should i test this with a Glock?


PS. you didnt understand jack about sound wave let alone calling something "Active Noise Cancellation". Go to a Cinema, buy all the seats then start experiment listening at every seat.....
Just another confirmation of my theory regarding the correlation between low trust scores and commentary that deserves to be ignored.

i don't see anything particularly wrong in my comment, especially since I have dB measurement included. Who is to say that Sp20 with fans at different speed would not produce waves that are out of phase with each other, but I digress.
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January 26, 2015, 02:51:41 AM
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My dog has ability to move and see at ultra high speed (at nearly 150 FPS). Thats my conclusion after witness him doge a light spark from my fireworks by bending down and lick his balls.

Anything wrong with my conclusion? Should i test this with a Glock?


PS. you didnt understand jack about sound wave let alone calling something "Active Noise Cancellation". Go to a Cinema, buy all the seats then start experiment listening at every seat.....

I hate it when I read comments that make me go back and figure out wtf is going on.  All I can say is that I'm glad I wasn't taking a drink when I read this one!  Grin
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January 26, 2015, 10:40:31 AM
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i don't see anything particularly wrong in my comment, especially since I have dB measurement included. Who is to say that Sp20 with fans at different speed would not produce waves that are out of phase with each other, but I digress.

Fan noise is 99+% a random mix of many frequencies that cannot be neutralized by anti-noise as there is not sync or phase.
your db rating were from very different distances afaik.
running sp20 or s5 with Scythe ultra kaze also does not make too much sense for me as that fan is 3pin and not pwm.
next point is the hashrate: downclocked to 900 Gh/s you can make eiter s5 or sp20 down to 40db with 0.3A PC Fans an let them run in a living room.
but at 1200+ GH they got to hot and I doubt you get it under 46db

a little physics:

db rating is not easy to understand.

example: 1 sp20 = 55db ; 2 sp20 = 58db  Shocked

doubling (independent) noise sources are always +3db regardless of the distance.

if you double the distance your db gets down by 6 db. if you check that with db meter you'll not always agree, bit this is most up to reflections in smaller rooms.

your db ratings were from 1, 4 and 10 feet. in theory 10 ft. db should be roughly 20db less than 1 ft.

and the "human ear" is recognizing doubled noise in 10db steps but this depends a bit on the frequencies. It's probably a bit less than 10db.
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January 26, 2015, 02:52:06 PM
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i don't see anything particularly wrong in my comment, especially since I have dB measurement included. Who is to say that Sp20 with fans at different speed would not produce waves that are out of phase with each other, but I digress.

Fan noise is 99+% a random mix of many frequencies that cannot be neutralized by anti-noise as there is not sync or phase.
your db rating were from very different distances afaik.
running sp20 or s5 with Scythe ultra kaze also does not make too much sense for me as that fan is 3pin and not pwm.
next point is the hashrate: downclocked to 900 Gh/s you can make eiter s5 or sp20 down to 40db with 0.3A PC Fans an let them run in a living room.
but at 1200+ GH they got to hot and I doubt you get it under 46db

a little physics:

db rating is not easy to understand.

example: 1 sp20 = 55db ; 2 sp20 = 58db  Shocked

doubling (independent) noise sources are always +3db regardless of the distance.

if you double the distance your db gets down by 6 db. if you check that with db meter you'll not always agree, bit this is most up to reflections in smaller rooms.

your db ratings were from 1, 4 and 10 feet. in theory 10 ft. db should be roughly 20db less than 1 ft.

and the "human ear" is recognizing doubled noise in 10db steps but this depends a bit on the frequencies. It's probably a bit less than 10db.


OK, I get it re frequency. I got less sound somehow anyway and when using a single machine the sound does not drop as fast as you posted (maybe due to reflections). However, you don't have to use a PWM fan. Instead, you can use a 3 pin fan, power it from PSU, then adjust frequency so the machine is not overheating (less than 65C for S5 or less than 115C for SP20).
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