[ANN] Spondoolies-Tech - carrier grade, data center ready mining rigs

[zvisha]

I recently received a used SP20. I know that it works, and can hash. When I received it, it had Firmware 2.5.61 installed. Virtually everything I have seen posted here for a recent version is 2.6.x. So I went down the route of "Upgrading the firmware". I went and let it choose the "latest firmware", and the result appears to be 2.6.1. I am virtually certain that many folks have 2.6.7 or possibly 2.6.14? I then tried the auto update again, and it says "I am current with the latest". I then looked into a "Manual Selection", and said that 2.5.12 was the only one I could choose from. That just didn't look right, so I decided to seek advice here before I try and advance beyond 2.6.1.

1) I am truly confused by the firmware version numbering scheme.

2) How do I get beyond 2.6.1 to something that's got better control of the fan?

If there is a discussion of this somewhere in the past 500 pages, please point me at it.

Thanks very much!!!

Select the firmware upgrade manually. 2.6.7 is currently shown as a test version but it works.

2.6.7 has 1 problem: it doesn't work unless both boards are connected to power.
There is 2.6.14 which should be good too and should work if 1/2 miner only connected, and also has 1 more recovery mechanism for i2c.
Please let me know how it works for you.

[Biodom]

I recently received a used SP20. I know that it works, and can hash. When I received it, it had Firmware 2.5.61 installed. Virtually everything I have seen posted here for a recent version is 2.6.x. So I went down the route of "Upgrading the firmware". I went and let it choose the "latest firmware", and the result appears to be 2.6.1. I am virtually certain that many folks have 2.6.7 or possibly 2.6.14? I then tried the auto update again, and it says "I am current with the latest". I then looked into a "Manual Selection", and said that 2.5.12 was the only one I could choose from. That just didn't look right, so I decided to seek advice here before I try and advance beyond 2.6.1.

1) I am truly confused by the firmware version numbering scheme.

2) How do I get beyond 2.6.1 to something that's got better control of the fan?

If there is a discussion of this somewhere in the past 500 pages, please point me at it.

Thanks very much!!!

when you go to "manual Selection" and see 2.5.12, there are two little arrows to the right of it.
Click on them without releasing the mouse and you will see pulldown menu with more choices. navigate to one of them, then release the mouse.
then upgrade.

[opentoe]

I've ordered today!
That's like getting into mining for the first time again  .

Hopefully ASIC mining will be fun as GPU mining was.

Good for you! You are able to get free electricity, right?

... why need free to make the sp20 worth it?

I was just curious, that's all. I heard it is a great machine. If the price was lower I would buy one just to have another piece of bitcoin hardware/history.

[Newar]

Tried to Load Balance the SP20 between two pools. Setting load-balance to true in the config.template works, however the quota flag seems to get eaten.

Reference from cgminer README:

"pools" : [
        {
                "url" : "poola:porta",
                "user" : "usernamea",
                "pass" : "passa"
        },
        {
                "quota" : "2;poolb:portb",
                "user" : "usernameb",
                "pass" : "passb"
        }
]

This would be 1 to 2.

I enter it like above, restart cgminer, but then template reverts to:

"pools" : [
        {
                "url" : "poola:porta",
                "user" : "usernamea",
                "pass" : "passa"
        },
        {
                "url" : "poolb:portb",
                "user" : "usernameb",
                "pass" : "passb"
        }
]

Resulting in 1:1.

[opentoe]

I've ordered today!
That's like getting into mining for the first time again  .

Hopefully ASIC mining will be fun as GPU mining was.

Good for you! You are able to get free electricity, right?

Yes, I Can run them on free electricity. But only up to 6 units. That is enough for me though. Doing it as a Hobby with a bit of cashflow 😊.
Hopefully I will receive them this week

yep, I'm a little jealous about the free electric. I bet some people are out right stealing electric from their work place by the thousands and no one has a clue. Imagine someone getting caught and fired from their job because of doing that. Why do I speak about it? I'm in a situation where it would be VERY easy for me to do. I have headends and OTN's all over the place I could install miners in, but it just isn't worth my job in the end. Damn, I hate getting jealous.

[takagari]

I've ordered today!
That's like getting into mining for the first time again  .

Hopefully ASIC mining will be fun as GPU mining was.

Good for you! You are able to get free electricity, right?

Yes, I Can run them on free electricity. But only up to 6 units. That is enough for me though. Doing it as a Hobby with a bit of cashflow 😊.
Hopefully I will receive them this week

yep, I'm a little jealous about the free electric. I bet some people are out right stealing electric from their work place by the thousands and no one has a clue. Imagine someone getting caught and fired from their job because of doing that. Why do I speak about it? I'm in a situation where it would be VERY easy for me to do. I have headends and OTN's all over the place I could install miners in, but it just isn't worth my job in the end. Damn, I hate getting jealous.

Any idea how many IT people were fired or arrested back when software mining was worth it? running entire networks of work pc's at night with cgminer.

[Guy Corem]

Our thread is now in the third place in number of posts: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=76.0;sort=replies;desc
I don't expect we'll get any higher than third place, unless we'll piss off Gleb Gamow / Phinnaeus Gage  

Not too bad, considering we've started to sell less than 11 months ago.

[bigblind]

I've ordered today!
That's like getting into mining for the first time again  .

Hopefully ASIC mining will be fun as GPU mining was.

Good for you! You are able to get free electricity, right?

Yes, I Can run them on free electricity. But only up to 6 units. That is enough for me though. Doing it as a Hobby with a bit of cashflow 😊.
Hopefully I will receive them this week

yep, I'm a little jealous about the free electric. I bet some people are out right stealing electric from their work place by the thousands and no one has a clue. Imagine someone getting caught and fired from their job because of doing that. Why do I speak about it? I'm in a situation where it would be VERY easy for me to do. I have headends and OTN's all over the place I could install miners in, but it just isn't worth my job in the end. Damn, I hate getting jealous.

Any idea how many IT people were fired or arrested back when software mining was worth it? running entire networks of work pc's at night with cgminer.

Yeah... there is always a risk to that and it is not the right thing to do. If the boss is fine with it, why not. But not without permission.
I do run them at home, we have a electricity flat. But then again, I don't want to overextend it just because of the circuits and because of emission like heat and noise. I don't want to make an industry of it, just want to keep the game on and see where the whole story takes us.

Maybe you can look out for hosting centers near you or something?

[Syke]

Our thread is now in the third place in number of posts: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=76.0;sort=replies;desc
I don't expect we'll get any higher than third place, unless we'll piss off Gleb Gamow / Phinnaeus Gage  

Not too bad, considering we've started to sell less than 11 months ago.

You've gotten there by running a decent business. Keep up the good work and you won't have to worry about Bruno.

[sloopy]

No, not bad at all.
You guys have been responsive to the squeaky wheels, especially the ones with valid points and issues.
People sit up and pay attention when they see someone treated well by a company selling products they use.

I need a bit better BTC price, another drop in SP price, or a group buy to pickup a few more units, and I am not complaining about the price you are at, but I would order today if SP20 was at $370.00 EA or 3 for $1050.00.

Of course the business model changing to straight industrial co-op concerns me as a home miner. I hoped to cut my teeth through home mining and open a side business this summer strictly dealing with crypto in the community, help other home miners get started, and a few other ideas. If I have a hard time getting product from the best miner manufacturer it will be kinda hard to recommend them to others.

That is what I understood from Guy in a recent post, and I've heard about it and talked about it with other members.
Is that the true intent? In the future primarily dealing with Industrial accounts, or will you sell whatever unit you are building to anyone, but your focus is listening to the feedback from the big miners? I should probably ask Guy, hope I'm not putting you on the spot, and if you do not know the answer, what is your opinion, thoughts, how will it affect the future of Bitcoin mining, and how does it specifically effect decentralization?

[mdude77]

I'm trying to use extranonce.subscribe on my SP30 on westhash, and it doesn't seem to work.  I enabled it by setting the option to 2, to no avail.

Is this a known issue?

M

[wh00per]

I'm trying to use extranonce.subscribe on my SP30 on westhash, and it doesn't seem to work.  I enabled it by setting the option to 2, to no avail.

Is this a known issue?

M

SP30 with the old firmware did not have the right cgminer for westhash. I know Zvi issued one in the paycoin days, having a CGminer with extranonce .. what firmware are you on? If you're on the correct firmware, did you reboot to use the "new" cgminer?

Hi all. 2.5.52 (still experimantal)

- Support extranonce.subscribe added by your requests - you have to enable it in settings and reboot to use other binary. It is a binary I got from jtoomim that claims to be cgminer 4.8.0 - I have no idea what it is or who compiled it but it seams to be a legit cgminer with extranonce support, so use it at your own risk I tested it for 2 minutes exactly.
- Yellow led blinks 3 times if got no IP, 2 times if got IP.
- Supports "minimal hash rate". If unit goes under "minimal hash rate" it will restart miner_gate.
- Different downscale logic to prevent PSU issues - still I am not clear on the effects of this one but should increase stability.

[mdude77]

I'm trying to use extranonce.subscribe on my SP30 on westhash, and it doesn't seem to work.  I enabled it by setting the option to 2, to no avail.

Is this a known issue?

M

SP30 with the old firmware did not have the right cgminer for westhash. I know Zvi issued one in the paycoin days, having a CGminer with extranonce .. what firmware are you on? If you're on the correct firmware, did you reboot to use the "new" cgminer?

Hi all. 2.5.52 (still experimantal)

- Support extranonce.subscribe added by your requests - you have to enable it in settings and reboot to use other binary. It is a binary I got from jtoomim that claims to be cgminer 4.8.0 - I have no idea what it is or who compiled it but it seams to be a legit cgminer with extranonce support, so use it at your own risk I tested it for 2 minutes exactly.
- Yellow led blinks 3 times if got no IP, 2 times if got IP.
- Supports "minimal hash rate". If unit goes under "minimal hash rate" it will restart miner_gate.
- Different downscale logic to prevent PSU issues - still I am not clear on the effects of this one but should increase stability.

Using 2.6.1.  I restarted minergate, but not the whole unit.

M

[opentoe]

Were there Spondoolie's in this video?

http://youtu.be/K8kua5B5K3I

[philipma1957]

Were there Spondoolie's in this video?

http://youtu.be/K8kua5B5K3I

  I did not see them  and I would think it is hard to send the gear to china

[Biodom]

Were there Spondoolie's in this video?

http://youtu.be/K8kua5B5K3I

  I did not see them  and I would think it is hard to send the gear to china

looks similar, but not the same.

[takagari]

Very happy.

Seems customers. S has my farm,  over.long weekend. Bastard.  But not your fault.

[alh]

@biodom: Thanks very much for the clue about the drop-down selection box for the SP20 firmware version. I didn't notice the "down arrow" and assumed there was only one. I see several other TEST versions now.

@zvi: Thanks for elaborating on the 2.6.7 and 2.6.14 versions of the firmware. I's really nice to have that kind of insight. I also appreciate that Spndoolies has a a true technical guy on here from time to time, and not strictly a "corporate mouthpiece" to dispense the company line.

While I only have about 10 hours on the 2.6.14 firmware it's vastly more useful than 2.6.1. I haven't been able to coax the fan below 10 yet, even when using auto, I think I'll be able to make good progress with this.

Thanks again folks, and Spondoolies!

[zvisha]

@biodom: Thanks very much for the clue about the drop-down selection box for the SP20 firmware version. I didn't notice the "down arrow" and assumed there was only one. I see several other TEST versions now.

@zvi: Thanks for elaborating on the 2.6.7 and 2.6.14 versions of the firmware. I's really nice to have that kind of insight. I also appreciate that Spndoolies has a a true technical guy on here from time to time, and not strictly a "corporate mouthpiece" to dispense the company line.

While I only have about 10 hours on the 2.6.14 firmware it's vastly more useful than 2.6.1. I haven't been able to coax the fan below 10 yet, even when using auto, I think I'll be able to make good progress with this.

Thanks again folks, and Spondoolies!

Thanks!
10% might be the minimum that it will work.
To try to set it to lower value: ssh to the unit, "vi  /etc/mg_custom_mode", change the fan to setting to "5" for example. If you set it to "0" it will become "auto", which starts about 60 and then goes down if system is cold.
Might work, but I never set it to lower then 10%.

[zvisha]

I'm trying to use extranonce.subscribe on my SP30 on westhash, and it doesn't seem to work.  I enabled it by setting the option to 2, to no avail.

Is this a known issue?

M

SP30 with the old firmware did not have the right cgminer for westhash. I know Zvi issued one in the paycoin days, having a CGminer with extranonce .. what firmware are you on? If you're on the correct firmware, did you reboot to use the "new" cgminer?

Hi all. 2.5.52 (still experimantal)

- Support extranonce.subscribe added by your requests - you have to enable it in settings and reboot to use other binary. It is a binary I got from jtoomim that claims to be cgminer 4.8.0 - I have no idea what it is or who compiled it but it seams to be a legit cgminer with extranonce support, so use it at your own risk I tested it for 2 minutes exactly.
- Yellow led blinks 3 times if got no IP, 2 times if got IP.
- Supports "minimal hash rate". If unit goes under "minimal hash rate" it will restart miner_gate.
- Different downscale logic to prevent PSU issues - still I am not clear on the effects of this one but should increase stability.

Using 2.6.1.  I restarted minergate, but not the whole unit.

M

you need to do unit reboot.