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September 11, 2014, 03:16:13 PM
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ok, thats over an hour of lost mining... is nobody around?
After down time, it seems that miners don't start always autmaticaly.
I have lost 4 hours of mining because the miner did not start automaticaly at power up !

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September 11, 2014, 03:48:04 PM
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what is a fair shipping price to midwest usa more or less..trying to do the numbers on this ..but with say a corsair 1500i at $449.99 newegg.com and say $150 usd to ship and
the $1095 price.that is about around maybe $1694.99 for a 1.7TH unit at 2100 watts .....

It's 1100W, not 2100W!

well that would help considerably...let me run those numbers (duh)...off to the calculator again

why I post here people can put me in my place (like in the real world....)

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Geez, just go buy the most popular PSU for mining ever... the EVGA Supernova 1300G2. Newegg has them for $169 after rebate. I have 5 or 6 of them.
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Hmm how are you getting such low wattage ?

your temps are higer than mine as well.

my voltage hovers around 236/239
watts are 1350/1340

my Max voltage is .76 and start is at .66/.66


It seems different ASIC require diffrent amounts of power ? 
Other than that hash rate hovers around 4510 similar to yours but with a big higher power consumtion it seems.

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September 11, 2014, 03:54:55 PM
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ok, thats over an hour of lost mining... is nobody around?
After down time, it seems that miners don't start always autmaticaly.
I have lost 4 hours of mining because the miner did not start automaticaly at power up !

appreciate your response but it seems the FW upgrade has failed and the miner doenst really know what to do.

myminer.io works

but i cannot access the GUI

is the little inset button next to the leds the 'reset' button?

Hi Edgar.
- "yellow light is blinking 2 times" usually means the miner is up but configured not to mine ("stop mining").  I would recommend finding the miner IP and setting it to mine again.
- If it does not start - do factory reset from settings.
- If the WebUI not accessible or the miner got no IP - you can do the recovery procedure from the technical blog.
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September 11, 2014, 04:03:32 PM
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For anyone that doesn´t know:

As far as I can tell, grcooling is a form of immersion cooling, utilizing a "standard" 1-phase cooling liquid.



This is correct, we use an oil based dielectric coolant, which is much more cost effective than a two phase cooling approach. Two phase cooling fluids typically cost about $200 per gallon, while oil based liquid coolants are orders of magnitude cheaper. We can handle rack densities of over 100 KW per rack, with a cooling overhead energy use of about 3%. We can achieve this in any climate on the globe. If you can find me flat level ground, Available Power, communications and a roof, I can build you one of the most efficient, cost effective data centers on the planet.  Please see below a link to a youtube video of what our cooling units typically look like in action.

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I would be happy to answer any questions.

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.... So you're saying you're moving the fluid from rack to roof, cooling it to ambient and back to rack for less than 3KW per rack?


The path of heat flow through the systems works like this: The heat from the boards/ASICs is tranfered to the rack coolant, which is then pumped to a pump module which houses Redundant pumps, controls, and heat exchangers. The heat exchangers have an oil and a waterside. The waterside of the heat exchangers are plumbed into a warm water loop which runs to a simple evaporative cooling tower, which is the most common & cost effective means for final heat rejection.

The whole system has 3 moving parts: 1. Oil/Coolant pump 2. Water pump for Warm Water Loop. 3. Fan on Cooling tower, which may or may not be on due to current weather conditions.

3-4 KW is a typical energy cooling usage for a 100 KW system.

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September 11, 2014, 05:03:10 PM
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Well, I ordered myself an SP20.  I've never had an issue with ROI in the past so happy to cough up some coin for an efficient miner.

At what energy costs?

$.15

Let's just say there are always new coins to mine other than BTC...just gotta be smart...

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what is a fair shipping price to midwest usa more or less..trying to do the numbers on this ..but with say a corsair 1500i at $449.99 newegg.com and say $150 usd to ship and
the $1095 price.that is about around maybe $1694.99 for a 1.7TH unit at 21100 watts .....

you can get a 1200W GOLD PSU for under $200, not sure why you would use the most expensive 1500W possible in your example

I think that question is answered by looking at all of his posts...  He's obviously here to cause drama given he's obviously not interested in the products.

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September 11, 2014, 05:09:55 PM
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ok, thats over an hour of lost mining... is nobody around?
After down time, it seems that miners don't start always autmaticaly.
I have lost 4 hours of mining because the miner did not start automaticaly at power up !

appreciate your response but it seems the FW upgrade has failed and the miner doenst really know what to do.

myminer.io works

but i cannot access the GUI

is the little inset button next to the leds the 'reset' button?

Hi Edgar.
- "yellow light is blinking 2 times" usually means the miner is up but configured not to mine ("stop mining").  I would recommend finding the miner IP and setting it to mine again.
- If it does not start - do factory reset from settings.
- If the WebUI not accessible or the miner got no IP - you can do the recovery procedure from the technical blog.


followed the recovery procedure in the FAQs - 6) Once the system is up, do SW upgrade from the webUI and update your wallet and the pool.

system is not up...

miner spent considerable minutes whining at 100%, then went quiet.

cannot even access myminer.io now... neither green nor yellow led is lit (both ether leds are functioning)

3h:42m:54s


lost mining..
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September 11, 2014, 05:10:59 PM
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Well, I ordered myself an SP20.  I've never had an issue with ROI in the past so happy to cough up some coin for an efficient miner.

At what energy costs?

$.15

Let's just say there are always new coins to mine other than BTC...just gotta be smart...

I haven't seen much worth mining these days -- any recommendations?

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September 11, 2014, 05:12:55 PM
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Well, I ordered myself an SP20.  I've never had an issue with ROI in the past so happy to cough up some coin for an efficient miner.

At what energy costs?

$.15

Let's just say there are always new coins to mine other than BTC...just gotta be smart...

I haven't seen much worth mining these days -- any recommendations?

Right now?  Not really...it's all about getting on new launches...  BTCD was a real winner for me.

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ok, thats over an hour of lost mining... is nobody around?
After down time, it seems that miners don't start always autmaticaly.
I have lost 4 hours of mining because the miner did not start automaticaly at power up !

appreciate your response but it seems the FW upgrade has failed and the miner doenst really know what to do.

myminer.io works

but i cannot access the GUI

is the little inset button next to the leds the 'reset' button?

Hi Edgar.
- "yellow light is blinking 2 times" usually means the miner is up but configured not to mine ("stop mining").  I would recommend finding the miner IP and setting it to mine again.
- If it does not start - do factory reset from settings.
- If the WebUI not accessible or the miner got no IP - you can do the recovery procedure from the technical blog.


followed the recovery procedure in the FAQs - 6) Once the system is up, do SW upgrade from the webUI and update your wallet and the pool.

system is not up...

miner spent considerable minutes whining at 100%, then went quiet.

cannot even access myminer.io now... neither green nor yellow led is lit (both ether leds are functioning)



When S-T servers were down I coulnd't access myminer.io.
Because of this I also couldn't use GUI and update the firmware. When myminer.io started working, everything came back to normal. Strange..
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ok, thats over an hour of lost mining... is nobody around?
After down time, it seems that miners don't start always autmaticaly.
I have lost 4 hours of mining because the miner did not start automaticaly at power up !

appreciate your response but it seems the FW upgrade has failed and the miner doenst really know what to do.

myminer.io works

but i cannot access the GUI

is the little inset button next to the leds the 'reset' button?

Hi Edgar.
- "yellow light is blinking 2 times" usually means the miner is up but configured not to mine ("stop mining").  I would recommend finding the miner IP and setting it to mine again.
- If it does not start - do factory reset from settings.
- If the WebUI not accessible or the miner got no IP - you can do the recovery procedure from the technical blog.


followed the recovery procedure in the FAQs - 6) Once the system is up, do SW upgrade from the webUI and update your wallet and the pool.

system is not up...

miner spent considerable minutes whining at 100%, then went quiet.

cannot even access myminer.io now... neither green nor yellow led is lit (both ether leds are functioning)



When S-T servers were down I coulnd't access myminer.io.
Because of this I also couldn't use GUI and update the firmware. When myminer.io started working, everything came back to normal. Strange..

very strange, but seemingly common enough to be in the FAQs

after 3 power cycles myminer.io is working - NOTHING else is
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very strange, but seemingly common enough to be in the FAQs

after 3 power cycles myminer.io is working - NOTHING else is

Hopefully zvisha or someone from support will arrange with you to remote access to your device and sort it out, I could be wrong but I don't think you will get much help from most of the enthusiasts on the forum, not for want of trying but more for lack of technical insight.

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very strange, but seemingly common enough to be in the FAQs

after 3 power cycles myminer.io is working - NOTHING else is

Hopefully zvisha or someone from support will arrange with you to remote access to your device and sort it out, I could be wrong but I don't think you will get much help from most of the enthusiasts on the forum, not for want of trying but more for lack of technical insight.

cheers biffa,

i PMd zvi after he replied earlier....

just did the recovery again, to make sure i hadnt fumbled it the 1st time.

end result is the same, can access myminer.io but cannot 'go to miner' etc

its getting silly now, im exhausted

totally regret updating FW!
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very strange, but seemingly common enough to be in the FAQs

after 3 power cycles myminer.io is working - NOTHING else is

Hopefully zvisha or someone from support will arrange with you to remote access to your device and sort it out, I could be wrong but I don't think you will get much help from most of the enthusiasts on the forum, not for want of trying but more for lack of technical insight.

cheers biffa,

i PMd zvi after he replied earlier....
just did the recovery again, to make sure i hadnt fumbled it the 1st time.
end result is the same, can access myminer.io but cannot 'go to miner' etc
its getting silly now, im exhausted
totally regret updating FW!

myminer.io is not on the miner.
Please answer the following:
- when doing recovery, do you get the leds going green-yellow-green-yellow...?
- Are you sure you are trying to connect from the same subnet as where your miner is?
- Do you get the led blinking twice after doing recovery?
I think your miner changed IP, but myminer.io for some reason does not reflect it.
Go to your router UI and try to see what is the miner IP (see all the IPs and try to connect to each).
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ok, thats over an hour of lost mining... is nobody around?
After down time, it seems that miners don't start always autmaticaly.
I have lost 4 hours of mining because the miner did not start automaticaly at power up !

appreciate your response but it seems the FW upgrade has failed and the miner doenst really know what to do.

myminer.io works

but i cannot access the GUI

is the little inset button next to the leds the 'reset' button?

Hi Edgar.
- "yellow light is blinking 2 times" usually means the miner is up but configured not to mine ("stop mining").  I would recommend finding the miner IP and setting it to mine again.
- If it does not start - do factory reset from settings.
- If the WebUI not accessible or the miner got no IP - you can do the recovery procedure from the technical blog.


followed the recovery procedure in the FAQs - 6) Once the system is up, do SW upgrade from the webUI and update your wallet and the pool.

system is not up...

miner spent considerable minutes whining at 100%, then went quiet.

cannot even access myminer.io now... neither green nor yellow led is lit (both ether leds are functioning)



When S-T servers were down I coulnd't access myminer.io.
Because of this I also couldn't use GUI and update the firmware. When myminer.io started working, everything came back to normal. Strange..

It's not that strange, it's our server that gets overloaded lately. We will fix it next week. In recent FWs you have option to update from your host so you can upload latest image (For SP30 it's here:http://storage.googleapis.com/spond_firmware/spon_2.3.46.tar) from your host.

Keep your FW updated to latest version (not the "testing" ones) to get most stability and hash rate.
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very strange, but seemingly common enough to be in the FAQs

after 3 power cycles myminer.io is working - NOTHING else is

Hopefully zvisha or someone from support will arrange with you to remote access to your device and sort it out, I could be wrong but I don't think you will get much help from most of the enthusiasts on the forum, not for want of trying but more for lack of technical insight.

cheers biffa,

i PMd zvi after he replied earlier....
just did the recovery again, to make sure i hadnt fumbled it the 1st time.
end result is the same, can access myminer.io but cannot 'go to miner' etc
its getting silly now, im exhausted
totally regret updating FW!

myminer.io is not on the miner.
Please answer the following:
- when doing recovery, do you get the leds going green-yellow-green-yellow...?  yes
- Are you sure you are trying to connect from the same subnet as where your miner is?
- Do you get the led blinking twice after doing recovery? no
I think your miner changed IP, but myminer.io for some reason does not reflect it.
Go to your router UI and try to see what is the miner IP (see all the IPs and try to connect to each).

after much time passed, myminer.io has updated to show a new IP

i am now mining on FW 2.2.24

there is no option to update past .43

manual option only offers a 'manual choice' up to .43 also

reluctant to try .43 again

36xxGH sucks  but better than zero!!

e2a - successfully upgraded to .40 - 45xxGH

i found no .tar file in the .46 link u posted only 'spon.shar' & 'spon.shar.sign' files
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Hmm how are you getting such low wattage ?

your temps are higer than mine as well.

my voltage hovers around 236/239
watts are 1350/1340

my Max voltage is .76 and start is at .66/.66


It seems different ASIC require different amounts of power ?  
Other than that hash rate hovers around 4510 similar to yours but with a big higher power consumption it seems.

The max watts were set up @ startup when the unit does test the power supplies. I did not do any manual overclocking. The values you see there are the hard limits in PSU output set by the software.
When it was higher (over 1300) at startup, the ASICS were overheating .. I have some logs with most of them at 105 deg C. now only one/two arbitrarily get there, and only temporary.
The first unit balanced itself .. after that I did the upgrade to 2.3.30. with no major changes in power and hashrate. The (-50Gh/s) change in hashrate came after deploying the latest firmware.

I don't care about losing 50Gh/s if the unit is more stable. This is my ASIC stats now

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-----BOARD-0-----
PSU-TOP[EMERSON1200]: 1408->1264w[1260 1264 1260] (lim=1295) 0c cooling:0/0x2000
-----BOARD-1-----
PSU-TOP[EMERSON1200]: 1440->1288w[1284 1284 1288] (lim=1325) 0c cooling:0/0x2000
LOOP[0] ON
 0: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:689 vlt2:693(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:749) 61W  89A  55c] ASIC:[ 85c  715hz(BL: 715)  206 (E:193) F:0]
 1: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:689 vlt2:693(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:749) 64W  93A  57c] ASIC:[ 85c  735hz(BL: 735)  202 (E:191) F:0]
 2: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:691 vlt2:693(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:749) 67W  96A  51c] ASIC:[ 85c  775hz(BL: 775)  186 (E:193) F:0]
LOOP[1] ON
 3: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:687 vlt2:693(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:749) 63W  90A  56c] ASIC:[ 85c  725hz(BL: 725)  202 (E:192) F:0]
 4: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:689 vlt2:693(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:749) 65W  94A  68c] ASIC:[ 85c  760hz(BL: 760)  210 (E:193) F:0]
 5: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:687 vlt2:693(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:749) 59W  85A  62c] ASIC:[ 85c  685hz(BL: 685)  175 (E:193) F:0]
LOOP[2] ON
 6: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:689 vlt2:693(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:749) 65W  93A  71c] ASIC:[ 85c  760hz(BL: 760)  210 (E:193) F:0]
 7: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:689 vlt2:693(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:749) 71W 103A  76c] ASIC:[ 85c  815hz(BL: 815)  217 (E:193) F:0]
 8: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:687 vlt2:693(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:749) 69W  99A  60c] ASIC:[ 85c  785hz(BL: 785)  206 (E:193) F:0]
LOOP[3] ON
 9: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:689 vlt2:693(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:749) 67W  97A  69c] ASIC:[ 85c  755hz(BL: 755)  191 (E:193) F:0]
10: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:691 vlt2:695(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:749) 75W 109A  82c] ASIC:[ 85c  840hz(BL: 840)  219 (E:193) F:0]
11: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:691 vlt2:695(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:749) 65W  94A  74c] ASIC:[ 85c  750hz(BL: 750)  184 (E:193) F:0]
LOOP[4] ON
12: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:693 vlt2:695(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:749) 72W 104A  89c] ASIC:[ 85c  840hz(BL: 840)  185 (E:193) F:0]
13: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:691 vlt2:695(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:749) 67W  97A  83c] ASIC:[105c  780hz(BL: 780)  216 (E:193) F:0]
14: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:691 vlt2:695(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:749) 70W 101A  68c] ASIC:[ 85c  810hz(BL: 810)  212 (E:193) F:0]
LOOP[5] ON
15: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:685 vlt2:693(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:749) 63W  91A  52c] ASIC:[ 85c  730hz(BL: 730)  170 (E:193) F:0]
16: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:687 vlt2:693(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:749) 66W  95A  55c] ASIC:[ 85c  760hz(BL: 760)  213 (E:191) F:0]
17: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:691 vlt2:693(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:749) 65W  93A  49c] ASIC:[ 85c  745hz(BL: 745)  197 (E:193) F:0]
LOOP[6] ON
18: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:689 vlt2:693(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:749) 65W  94A  60c] ASIC:[ 85c  755hz(BL: 755)  186 (E:193) F:0]
19: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:685 vlt2:693(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:749) 66W  96A  63c] ASIC:[ 85c  770hz(BL: 770)  183 (E:193) F:0]
20: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:689 vlt2:693(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:749) 66W  95A  62c] ASIC:[ 85c  760hz(BL: 760)  219 (E:193) F:0]
LOOP[7] ON
21: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:691 vlt2:695(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:749) 73W 105A  75c] ASIC:[ 85c  825hz(BL: 825)  200 (E:193) F:0]
22: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:689 vlt2:695(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:749) 69W  99A  73c] ASIC:[ 85c  795hz(BL: 795)  217 (E:193) F:0]
23: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:691 vlt2:695(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:749) 67W  96A  61c] ASIC:[ 85c  760hz(BL: 760)  188 (E:193) F:0]
LOOP[8] ON
24: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:691 vlt2:695(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:749) 69W  99A  72c] ASIC:[ 85c  790hz(BL: 790)  169 (E:193) F:0]
25: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:689 vlt2:695(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:749) 67W  97A  78c] ASIC:[ 85c  790hz(BL: 790)  171 (E:193) F:0]
26: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:691 vlt2:695(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:749) 78W 113A  80c] ASIC:[ 85c  865hz(BL: 865)  220 (E:193) F:0]
LOOP[9] ON
27: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:691 vlt2:695(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:749) 67W  97A  82c] ASIC:[ 85c  765hz(BL: 765)  198 (E:189) F:0]
28: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:687 vlt2:695(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:749) 61W  88A  77c] ASIC:[ 85c  710hz(BL: 710)  158 (E:193) F:0]
29: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:691 vlt2:695(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:749) 69W 100A  70c] ASIC:[ 85c  790hz(BL: 790)  213 (E:193) F:0]

I was also playing with the stats .. trying to balance them out and include the beagle CPU LOAD there ..



Zvisha, did you have time to review my pull request on GitHub regarding the minepeon UI ? Some more files need minor updates, but I'm happy now that my lighttpd.error file is not growing any more.

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September 11, 2014, 08:22:38 PM
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reluctant to try .43 again

36xxGH sucks  but better than zero!!

e2a - successfully upgraded to .40 - 45xxGH

If you install .43 FW and you get the yellow led try booting the miner without the LAN cable and plugging it back in ~3 mins.

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September 11, 2014, 09:26:48 PM
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For anyone that doesn´t know:

As far as I can tell, grcooling is a form of immersion cooling, utilizing a "standard" 1-phase cooling liquid.



This is correct, we use an oil based dielectric coolant, which is much more cost effective than a two phase cooling approach. Two phase cooling fluids typically cost about $200 per gallon, while oil based liquid coolants are orders of magnitude cheaper. We can handle rack densities of over 100 KW per rack, with a cooling overhead energy use of about 3%. We can achieve this in any climate on the globe. If you can find me flat level ground, Available Power, communications and a roof, I can build you one of the most efficient, cost effective data centers on the planet.  Please see below a link to a youtube video of what our cooling units typically look like in action.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IX9U2zaI_I



I would be happy to answer any questions.

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Brandon
.... So you're saying you're moving the fluid from rack to roof, cooling it to ambient and back to rack for less than 3KW per rack?


The path of heat flow through the systems works like this: The heat from the boards/ASICs is tranfered to the rack coolant, which is then pumped to a pump module which houses Redundant pumps, controls, and heat exchangers. The heat exchangers have an oil and a waterside. The waterside of the heat exchangers are plumbed into a warm water loop which runs to a simple evaporative cooling tower, which is the most common & cost effective means for final heat rejection.

The whole system has 3 moving parts: 1. Oil/Coolant pump 2. Water pump for Warm Water Loop. 3. Fan on Cooling tower, which may or may not be on due to current weather conditions.

3-4 KW is a typical energy cooling usage for a 100 KW system.

What is your estimated cooling infrastructure $/W for high density hardware like an SP30?

Your site says $1/w but I'm assuming that's not right because that's about twice as expensive as 2 phase immersion cooling.
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