Coronavirus Outbreak

[Gyfts]

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Hmm, I was going to post this same study.

Very surprising study out of Israel that suggests natural immunity reduces the risk of symptomatic infection.

Although, take into account, that is *if* you survive the initial infection.

So in fact, it might be better for the younger people not to get vaccinated and deal with the infection normally, recover, and become immune, whereas someone older is better off with taking the vaccine because they have a high likelihood of dying.

Also the part worth mentioning in the study was that they said no Covid deaths observed in either cohort - and of course they can't ask a dead person to be part of the cohort either so there is already a confound with trying to use this study to examine the death rate. There are better studies out of Israel that cover that portion.

[Tash]

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Hmm, I was going to post this same study.

Very surprising study out of Israel that suggests natural immunity reduces the risk of symptomatic infection.

Although, take into account, that is *if* you survive the initial infection.

So in fact, it might be better for the younger people not to get vaccinated and deal with the infection normally, recover, and become immune, whereas someone older is better off with taking the vaccine because they have a high likelihood of dying.

Also the part worth mentioning in the study was that they said no Covid deaths observed in either cohort - and of course they can't ask a dead person to be part of the cohort either so there is already a confound with trying to use this study to examine the death rate. There are better studies out of Israel that cover that portion.

Yes Israel preprint is clear natural immunity far superior to vaccine. Vaccinated 13x more likely to be infected, with Delta dominant.

hi tash
why are you spreading lies?

Dont worry i have no intention to challenge you for that castle. All yours no need to get twitchy

[Gyfts]

Yes Israel preprint is clear natural immunity far superior to vaccine. Vaccinated 13x more likely to be infected, with Delta dominant.

That's not quite what I said.

The study was looking at the symptoms of infected persons, not the likelihood of getting infected.

If you take the vaccine, your chance of infection is lower, but according to this study, the chance of a symptomatic infection is higher than a reinfection of a previously infected person.

And so if you're a child or some young person in your 20's and early 30's even, might be better just to take your chances. Anyone older than that should probably just get vaccinated.

[franky1]

but here is the thing..


before getting any covid infection.. your at risk.. no pre-immunity
so its a game of:
be an idiot and get covid first and hope youll be fine..
get a vaccine first.. then covid. and be pretty sure you will be fine

getting covid after the vaccine means that you then have the immunisation you were seeking but without the risk

a vaccine does not prevent infection. there is no magical forcefield. a vaccine just prevents the nasty cell damage WHEN you do get covid

meaning you will get covid at some point and so you will get the 'natural immunisation' but by having the vaccine means that when you do get infected, it wont harm you as much

[Lordhermes]

It is heard that most person's have refused to be vaccinated of this covid vaccine that has been discovered,maybe because they are scared,or some because they just don't want to be vaccinated. 

But looking at the way this dreadful disease turtured human life's and crumbled economics,it is meaningful for one not to go against government orders and get the vaccine as instructed by government's.

Hopefully we've been able to conquer the disease,but we all have to be cautious enough to maintain the covid19 protocols so as to avoid further spread of the virus.

[Tash]

India some African counties and now Japan Goverment recomending ivermectin.

Tokyo's Medical Assoc. Chairman recommending #ivermectin to all doctors, for all Covid patients. 
https://twitter.com/i/status/1429624844379824129
東京都医師会、イベルメクチン投与を提言　重症化予防で Tokyo Metropolitan Association, Ivermectin Administration Proposal Heavy Preventio

[Tash]

Germ Theory is done.

3 steps to prove a virus exists.

• Isolate, extract the virus from a sick person and purify it so you have an isolate of only pure viral particles and nothing else.
• Visualize this virus under a microscope take photos, characterize it as a unique biological structure. Sequence its genome
• Transfer the purified virus into an experimental host and cause disease

https://brandnewtube.com/watch/the-final-refutal-of-virology-please-share_qI429ODGLmoRotN.html
The Final Refutal Of Virology.

[Gyfts]

https://www.dni.gov/files/ODNI/documents/assessments/Unclassified-Summary-of-Assessment-on-COVID-19-Origins.pdf

The IC assesses that SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19, probably emerged and
infected humans through an initial small-scale exposure that occurred no later than November
2019 with the first known cluster of COVID-19 cases arising in Wuhan, China in December
2019. In addition, the IC was able to reach broad agreement on several other key issues. We
judge the virus was not developed as a biological weapon. Most agencies also assess with low
confidence that SARS-CoV-2 probably was not genetically engineered; however, two agencies
believe there was not sufficient evidence to make an assessment either way. Finally, the IC
assesses China’s officials did not have foreknowledge of the virus before the initial outbreak of
COVID-19 emerged.

DNI report alleges it is possible the virus originated in a lab, also determined that the virus probably was not genetically engineered, but they also said some agencies said it was possible to tell either way.

China doesn't want to cooperate, I wonder why 

[_Miracle]

so much nicer just ignoring a couple people 

Never thought I'd miss Techshare but I kinda do

[hornetsnest]

https://www.dni.gov/files/ODNI/documents/assessments/Unclassified-Summary-of-Assessment-on-COVID-19-Origins.pdf

The IC assesses that SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19, probably emerged and
infected humans through an initial small-scale exposure that occurred no later than November
2019 with the first known cluster of COVID-19 cases arising in Wuhan, China in December
2019. In addition, the IC was able to reach broad agreement on several other key issues. We
judge the virus was not developed as a biological weapon. Most agencies also assess with low
confidence that SARS-CoV-2 probably was not genetically engineered; however, two agencies
believe there was not sufficient evidence to make an assessment either way. Finally, the IC
assesses China’s officials did not have foreknowledge of the virus before the initial outbreak of
COVID-19 emerged.

DNI report alleges it is possible the virus originated in a lab, also determined that the virus probably was not genetically engineered, but they also said some agencies said it was possible to tell either way.

China doesn't want to cooperate, I wonder why  

According to some random drunk guy it was developed as a biological weapon under the guise of HIV vaccine research. The "virus" has contingencies built into it and is designed to evolve according to immune system response to eventually become a highly lethal "virus" with an innate ability to search for effective vectors.

[Gyfts]

https://www.jpost.com/health-and-wellness/coronavirus/covid-19-new-mu-variant-from-colombia-could-be-vaccine-resistant-who-678428

Mu variant has numerous key mutations that might cause it to be vaccine resistant. Began propagating in the SA region, no evidence as of now of higher transmissibility, and it only makes up 0.1 percent of world wide cases, for now. Death rate obviously has not been calculated, but if it turns out it is vaccine resistant, it will end up killing more people than the delta variant granted it spreads to enough people.

Friendly reminder that Coronavirus will be with us for the rest of humanity. Fine folks will beat the drum for lockdowns, masking, vaccine mandates but this will never go away, there will be seasonal spikes, don't let the lockdown nut cases that don't leave their doors without quadrable masking dictating public policy over seasonal spikes.

Man has heart attack during arrest for refusal to mask outside - https://nypost.com/2021/08/04/man-has-heart-attack-while-cuffed-for-not-wearing-mask-report

The chance of catching coronavirus through outdoor transmission is virtually nonexistant. Is outdoor masking rooted in science? No, but they'll throw you in jail anyways.

[Tash]

The industrial complex coronavirus
https://youtu.be/DKcSNrGf4dE

[Lordhermes]

Corona virus has brought so many blessings to some people,and at the same time been a life lesson to everyone.
Corona virus really posed a threat on almost every life,making life difficult.I now see that the worst thing that a man can face on earth is when a sickness strucks in,it is even more worse than war.
It lessons are as follows:It makes one not to depend on only one thing in life.During the covid19,we saw so many things,how man changed his plan and started doing other activities that can assure him food at the end of the day.I mean it made man crafty.

[franky1]

3 steps to prove a virus exists.

• Isolate, extract the virus from a sick person and purify it so you have an isolate of only pure viral particles and nothing else.
• Visualize this virus under a microscope take photos, characterize it as a unique biological structure. Sequence its genome
• Transfer the purified virus into an experimental host and cause disease

done done and done.

[hornetsnest]

There is a virus. It was designed in a laboratory under the guise of HIV vaccine research (offshoot of which will soon yield "positive results" for both HIV and certain cancers that will be available to the privileged and useful minions). The "virus" has a specific target profile with contingencies built in. It adapts to imuno response so the plandemic becomes a perpetual crisis to ensure all branch goals devised by wicked men are acheived.

~crazyconspiracytheorist

[Tash]

Medical expert explains the covid insanity and can not stop the virus with the policies which are used
https://streamable.com/t2uljo

[Gyfts]

https://theintercept.com/2021/09/06/new-details-emerge-about-coronavirus-research-at-chinese-lab/

American bureaucrats sure do look foolish when they send money over to China and pretend to be shocked that a virus could have potentially escaped from a laboratory of poor hygienic practices, controlled by a communist government. I am more inclined to believe that the virus originated from the lab, because that is the most plausible explanation. Although, the US also has to explain what their goal was here issuing funds for viral research, the same viral research that might have given the world SARS-COV-2.

[tvbcof]

I have some familiarity with a certain SE Asian country where three interesting things happened:

 - A massive grant of 'special drawing rights' from the IMF.

 - A new program of leaving society more or less open, but having very tight specific neighborhood lockdowns where a 'threat' is 'detected.'

 - Trials of CanSino aerosolized gene therapy product to address the 'covid' issue bioweapon.

One doesn't really have to be a rocket scientist to connect the dots here.  The 'Can' part of CanSino appears to be an artifact of working with an organization in Canada at some point at least early on.  The 'Sino' part is fairly self explanatory, and it is proudly advertised that a lot of their research is in cooperation with the Chinese military. ('Cansino' is also the surname of a very old and powerful family ironically(?).)

As best I can tell this is yet another 'adenovirus' product.  That has been the go-to for doing DNA gene insertions within the gene therapy field for decades.

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For someone with a little bit of understanding of this stuff...and a strong desire to not have myself or my family's genetics modified by whatever Bill Gates wants to put in...a fairly obvious defense would be to get some 'natural' adenovirus of the strain used as the gene insertion carrier.  Probably Ad5.  Then mist up with that and let one's immune system develop a response against it.  That would, hopefully, minimized the infection with whatever goodie Gates and Fausti have cooked up and are starting(?) to spread around.

If anyone knows of a market for unmodified adenovirus of various flavors, please let us know.

[Gyfts]

Interesting...

For certain age groups, UK data shows that the incident rate of Covid is *higher* for those that are vaccinated than those who are not vaccinated.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1016465/Vaccine_surveillance_report_-_week_36.pdf

https://twitter.com/kerpen/status/1436013579610869762/photo/1

This is data provided by the NHS, although some cases could go unaccounted for.

My theory - probably a statistical anomaly.

But even in the first document, it demonstrates the number of lives saved by the vaccine, also states a clear reduction in hospitalization among those vaccinated, even when accounting for the increased number of positive cases amongst the unvaxxed.


In other news - Joe Biden mandates vaccine for federal employees. No regard for previous infection immunity.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/09/politics/joe-biden-covid-speech/index.html

[Tash]

Covid death is skyrocketing in Britain, where 80% of population are fully vaccinated
https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/a-chart-of-covid-deaths-in-britain?token=eyJ1c2VyX2lkIjo0MzAyNzQ4OSwicG9zdF9pZCI6NDExMTc4NjQsIl8iOiJENXh2RCIsImlhdCI6MTYzMTIwNzQ1NiwiZXhwIjoxNjMxMjExMDU2LCJpc3MiOiJwdWItMzYzMDgwIiwic3ViIjoicG9zdC1yZWFjdGlvbiJ9.ct-A7F5krH8Zt11pLuSBjuTTNF5JBA9FpXYmX33oKkM