Coronavirus Outbreak

[BADecker]

its all been said before
the links actually show the processes and lab equipment, and methodology. they even link picture of the test specimens they tested it on afterwards

your inability to remember and your inability to click the links and check the references is your problem
and before you even start. because i know your routine already
it passed koch
it passed rivers
and to pre-empt your routine of moving goalpost
it passed bell

Then you agree that they are exosomes.     

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[franky1]

exosomes are not viruses
atleast learn basics

if you think ebola(knotted rope) looks like a exosome your an idiot
if you think corona (spikey ball) looks like an exosome(golfball(empty) or toffee apple(with nutrient attached)) your an idiot

funny part is badecker is the type of idiot that will also say a female ova is also a exosome and then start saying lots of things are exosomes..
without even understanding what an exosome does and doesnt do

last funny part is badecker is weirdly obsessed with advertising only one type of microscope. not realising that there are many types of microscopy. many ways to identify things. but nah. badecker is having some weird brand loyalty and promoting just one. because thats what his conspiracy sites are advertising

[BADecker]

exosomes are not viruses
atleast learn basics

if you think ebola(knotted rope) looks like a exosome your an idiot
if you think corona (spikey ball) looks like an exosome(golfball(empty) or toffee apple(with nutrient attached)) your an idiot

funny part is badecker is the type of idiot that will also say a female ova is also a exosome and then start saying lots of things are exosomes..
without even understanding what an exosome does and doesnt do

last funny part is badecker is weirdly obsessed with advertising only one type of microscope. not realising that there are many types of microscopy. many ways to identify things. but nah. badecker is having some weird brand loyalty and promoting just one. because thats what his conspiracy sites are advertising

When you look at what you call a virus, you are really looking at an exosome. There aren't any viruses.

[franky1]

idiot above continues to be an idiot

he cant even describe what an exosome does or how its created or any detail
he ran out of scripts. so just repeats the stupidity that everything must be an exosome

thats like someone that is colour blind that can only see grey. they will scream forever that the world is grey. even when people inform him the world is not grey but that its his limited view on life limits his understanding of colour

[BADecker]

idiot continues to be an idiot

Thank you. I don't like calling anybody an idiot.     

[bryant.coleman]

For a moment, please stop fighting each other and check this encouraging piece of news coming from Russia:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-53621708

Coronavirus: Russia plans mass vaccination campaign in October

Russian health authorities are preparing to start a mass vaccination campaign against coronavirus in October, the health minister has said. Russian media quoted Mikhail Murashko as saying that doctors and teachers would be the first to receive the vaccine. Reuters, citing anonymous sources, said Russia's first potential vaccine would be approved by regulators this month.

So it looks as if the first COVID 19 vaccine would be out in the market, within the next two months. But the most worrying thing is that the Russians may be selling the vaccine without completing all the necessary clinical trials. I have checked the status of their vaccine here:

https://www.raps.org/news-and-articles/news-articles/2020/3/covid-19-vaccine-tracker
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/science/coronavirus-vaccine-tracker.html

IMO, it looks like the Chinese vaccine (CanSino Biologics, which was approved for limited use last week) would be more safe.

[Tash]

^^^ Anyone who wants double ration of poison in the vains can have my portion.

[franky1]

For a moment, please stop fighting each other and check this encouraging piece of news coming from Russia:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-53621708

Coronavirus: Russia plans mass vaccination campaign in October

Russian health authorities are preparing to start a mass vaccination campaign against coronavirus in October, the health minister has said. Russian media quoted Mikhail Murashko as saying that doctors and teachers would be the first to receive the vaccine. Reuters, citing anonymous sources, said Russia's first potential vaccine would be approved by regulators this month.

pre-empting the conspiracy crew
the mass vaccination campaign. does not mean:
forced vaccination of everyone
door to door raids
random assassination plot

the mass vaccination campaign does mean:
a select demograph of people in select roles known to have inteliagence and understanding will be given open invitations
those in the roles of doctors and teachers can volunteer in or just say no
knowing these roles involve intelligence means the accuracy of reporting of issues would be higher
also these roles are known to be 'high contact' roles with random people that could be sick. thus able to easily see that it works by the lack of infection by the vaccinated people when they get so upclose and personal with sick people

anyway
the UK is also doing a similar campaign with 2k-30k 'massgroups' of volunteers

all of the 13 main vaccine developments are 'open' to international partnerships meaning even china if they get one first or russia or uk. they will share it with other countries.
america is currently slow on its own vaccine so is trialing with the UK. but america would happily take any country that passes the phases

[BADecker]

For a moment, please stop fighting each other and check this encouraging piece of news coming from Russia:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-53621708

Coronavirus: Russia plans mass vaccination campaign in October

Russian health authorities are preparing to start a mass vaccination campaign against coronavirus in October, the health minister has said. Russian media quoted Mikhail Murashko as saying that doctors and teachers would be the first to receive the vaccine. Reuters, citing anonymous sources, said Russia's first potential vaccine would be approved by regulators this month.

So it looks as if the first COVID 19 vaccine would be out in the market, within the next two months. But the most worrying thing is that the Russians may be selling the vaccine without completing all the necessary clinical trials. I have checked the status of their vaccine here:

https://www.raps.org/news-and-articles/news-articles/2020/3/covid-19-vaccine-tracker
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/science/coronavirus-vaccine-tracker.html

IMO, it looks like the Chinese vaccine (CanSino Biologics, which was approved for limited use last week) would be more safe.

Vaccines are totally unnecessary, and certainly dangerous in their own way.

All anybody needs for Covid is hydroxychloroquine and zinc - https://altcensored.com/watch?v=otRN0X6F81c and https://altcensored.com/watch?v=aX_Q1FaY9pI.

However, if hydroxychloroquine isn't available, replace it with 6 or 8 grams of vitamin-C spread out through the day. And take some vitamin-D3, but limit this to, say, 50,000 units per day.

[franky1]

just laughing at the "america's frontline doctors"

"theres 2 phases of the disease. theres the covid disease before your infected and the covid disease after your infected. there is treatment for the covid disease before you get infected"
"
you cant have a covid disease before having covid.
she just wants to sell people snake oil to cure the "before infection disease"..
absolutely stupid

simone gold is not even a emergency practicing doctor that has actual frontline first hand experience with covid patients
her registered 'practices' are housing addresses. not hospitals
https://www.sharecare.com/doctor/dr-simone-gold-2wsfq

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come on badecker atleast spend 10 minutes doing background checks on the idiots you link
i found all this stuff out in 2 minutes so im suggesting you should have 5x longer to atleast work out a few basic stuff

just because she uses a brand 'frontline doctors' or a trademark. does not make it a description
EG
greek yogurt is nt made in greece
danish bacon is not from denmark
american cheddar cheese is no actually from cheddar

[BADecker]

just laughing at the "america's frontline doctors"

"theres 2 phases of the disease. theres the covid disease before your infected and the covid disease after your infected. there is treatment for the covid disease before you get infected"
"
you cant have a covid disease before having covid.
she just wants to sell people snake oil to cure the "before infection disease"..
absolutely stupid

simone gold is not even a emergency practicing doctor that has actual frontline first hand experience with covid patients
her registered 'practices' are housing addresses. not hospitals
https://www.sharecare.com/doctor/dr-simone-gold-2wsfq

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come on badecker atleast spend 10 minutes doing background checks on the idiots you link
i found all this stuff out in 2 minutes so im suggesting you should have 5x longer to atleast work out a few basic stuff

just because she uses a brand 'frontline doctors' or a trademark. does not make it a description
EG
greek yogurt is nt made in greece
danish bacon is not from denmark
american cheddar cheese is no actually from cheddar

Whatever Simone is or isn't, we don't know from listening to you. Why not? You haven't shown yourself to be anything other than a deceptive blabber.

It's so interesting how somebody like me can find articles and post them, and then, rather than pick on the article or the points in the article, you pick on me. Why? For posting it?

And now you try to pick on Simone for showing the truth. Does anybody else understand how you are simply trying to tear down other people and the truth?

Of course they do. But even at this stage in your life, there might be hope for you.

[franky1]

simone did not come onto this forum to post her crap..

but YOU did
i know your now playing the 'its not my opinion, i dont beleive it im just repeating/linking others' card
but your words outside the link reveal YOUR opinion matches the crap you link. thus i poke at you and debunk YOUR opinion and your posts because you are making the posts not simone

and you have memory loss again because i do link stuff.. actual science studies.
your links are just silly blog opinion pieces from crap sources

many other people post many things. but when i se idiots posting crap and they are trying to say its real. i call them out on their crap.
so if you feel victimised by me poking at you and calling you out so much. its because your always posting crap

atleast put an effort into researching the stuff your going to link. dont just be a faithful flock follower. actually read, learn understand and research what you think you should link. actually understand and really check it out first.

[BADecker]

simone did not come onto this forum to post her crap..

but YOU did
i know your now playing the 'its not my opinion, i dont beleive it im just repeating/linking others' card
but your words outside the link reveal YOUR opinion matches the crap you link. thus i poke at you and debunk YOUR opinion and your posts because you are making the posts not simone

and you have memory loss again because i do link stuff.. actual science studies.
your links are just silly blog opinion pieces from crap sources

many other people post many things. but when i se idiots posting crap and they are trying to say its real. i call them out on their crap.
so if you feel victimised by me poking at you and calling you out so much. its because your always posting crap

atleast put an effort into researching the stuff your going to link. dont just be a faithful flock follower. actually read, learn understand and research what you think you should link. actually understand and really check it out first.

I didn't come onto the forum to post Simone's crap. So far that we can tell, she doesn't have any crap, so even if I wanted to, I wouldn't know how.

Since I don't link any crap, you must be looking inward.

Anybody can link studies. But it seems that you don't know how to explain the studies you link even enough that anybody can guess that you know anything. Parrots seem to know a lot of stuff.

I DO have to thank you for one thing. The fact that you pick on me rather than the good logic and info I post, prompts me to post more and better info. So don't become discouraged by my talk. We wouldn't want you to go off and lockdown out of computer range.

Mostly, I simply report on what other people say. Isn't that freedom of speech? You don't like it when I report? Even if I report something that someone else says and it is wrong, you don't like me because I reported on it? Yet you go around saying that I am bad because I use free speech in reporting, one of the greatest freedoms given to all people in the UK as well as the States.

But you would rather use your free speech to demonize me for using mine. You would rather pick on me than the points that I report about. You are attempting to hide info so that others don't even know about it, so they can research it themselves and figure out what the truth is.

Rather than look at a variety of things, you want to keep everybody focused on the authorities, who are often wrong. And that is what you are doing in the post I am responding to here. All you are saying is that I said something wrong, and that I should do research. What does it have to do with me? If you don't like what I reported on, show us where it is wrong, by what authority.

It's okay, though. We know that you can't find anything to refute what is in that which I report on. So, don't feel bad that you can't explain, and that all you can do is criticize. You have your place in the world. Without a little of your kind, things might get boring... but only a little.

Simone's stuff has to do with the fact that hydroxychloroquine is the cure for Covid. Her doctors explain why, and how it has been used for many decades. And now the medical bosses don't want us to use it to cure Covid. Why not? Simone has good info. Do your research.

[franky1]

simone says that HCQ is a cure for the 'disease BEFORE infection'. not the disease due to infection

meaning before you get infected you can supposedly be pre-infected with covid and sick with covid symptoms before you even have covid. and she can cure you of this
this is not logic or even realistic.
but when you then get infected and get a real disease not her fake 'sick before sick' thing. she will say you will get sick due to something not related to the infection. thus any real symptoms you are suffering from are not covid
thats not logic. or even realistic either

but hey, all badecker cares about is advertising scammy con artists that just want people to buy their chemicals while risking peoples health. stupid part is he doesnt even realise what he is promoting. or why

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as for highlighting idiots.
well. when someone punches you in the face your reality is that your special because your the only one feeling the pain. and somehow you think that makes you have some glamorous status..
you think your getting attention and ineracting with people with every punch you get

what your not realising is other people do get punched aswell and other people feel their own pains. thus what your feeling is not unique, special and not worthy of any high notoriety, its not making you famous.

i have called out many people as being an idiot. there are milions of people that actually speak sense and i dont bother them. but there are some idiots that are idiots and i call them out.
it doesnt make them special it just means that they are idiots and not unique

if you think being an idiot is your claim to fame because people are giving you an idiot title. its not a title. its not a noun that comes with any awards or benefits or prizes.. its an adjective that simply shows that people shouldnt listen to you. because of how wrong you always are

thus my actions are saving loads of people from your stupidity. because i save them time trying to work out if they need to bother calling you out on your crap. or just not give you a second look

[BADecker]

^^^ You didn't listen to Simone very well, did you? She said that there are two stages to Covid, the early and the late. If you use HCQ during the early stage, the Covid cure is almost guaranteed. If you use it during the late stage, there are still many people being cured.

I won't go through the rest of your drivel, since you either can't read, or can't do proper research, or are simply a liar and propaganda spreader.

[elisabetheva]

but its definitely of less concern than something that is already highly infectious, deadly and fully spread like the flu.

It is normal observation as it is almost 1 year passed. Now the virus is not normal but people taking it as normally and it will be took as a general flu soon. That doesn't mean that the virus is dead, it's just the thinking of people that the situation is under control.

actually when seen from the initial transmission no one thought that it was a very dangerous plague, just like the influenza virus as it had been so far.
but when it spreads and cannot contain the infection, it is only trying to deal with what is really too late and has made the pandemic a frightening plague.

maybe now there is no need to blame each other but try to make sure the pandemic can end soon and be controlled. of course certainly there must be drugs and vaccines that can be immediately to cut off transmission.

I have read an article, they have tried vaccines that are entering the human testing phase which at least this is the last clinical trial before it can be mass produced. we hope that the clinical trial will succeed so that there is as much hope as to be able to immediately cut off transmission.

but still as long as the production of vaccines takes place which obviously takes quite a while until it can later be distributed, that the health protocol must be kept in place so that it does not continue to grow to add to many who are infected.

[BADecker]

but its definitely of less concern than something that is already highly infectious, deadly and fully spread like the flu.

It is normal observation as it is almost 1 year passed. Now the virus is not normal but people taking it as normally and it will be took as a general flu soon. That doesn't mean that the virus is dead, it's just the thinking of people that the situation is under control.

actually when seen from the initial transmission no one thought that it was a very dangerous plague, just like the influenza virus as it had been so far.
but when it spreads and cannot contain the infection, it is only trying to deal with what is really too late and has made the pandemic a frightening plague.

maybe now there is no need to blame each other but try to make sure the pandemic can end soon and be controlled. of course certainly there must be drugs and vaccines that can be immediately to cut off transmission.

I have read an article, they have tried vaccines that are entering the human testing phase which at least this is the last clinical trial before it can be mass produced. we hope that the clinical trial will succeed so that there is as much hope as to be able to immediately cut off transmission.

but still as long as the production of vaccines takes place which obviously takes quite a while until it can later be distributed, that the health protocol must be kept in place so that it does not continue to grow to add to many who are infected.

Right here are several great videos that show that HCQ + zinc is the cure/control for Covid - https://search.bitchute.com/renderer?query=Frontline+Doctors&use=bitchute-json&name=Search&login=searcher&key=f589d6fde0c608ef59bf52432e68355f&fqa.kind=video.

Look for the "Frontline Doctors" videos, presently three of them, near the top of the website.

If you want the real details of what is being said in these videos, go here https://www.altcensored.com/watch?v=aX_Q1FaY9pI.

[Gyfts]

https://directorsblog.nih.gov/2020/07/28/immune-t-cells-may-offer-lasting-protection-against-covid-19/

An intriguing new study of these memory T cells suggests they might protect some people newly infected with SARS-CoV-2 by remembering past encounters with other human coronaviruses. This might potentially explain why some people seem to fend off the virus and may be less susceptible to becoming severely ill with COVID-19.

Extremely important study published recently - T cell immunity seems to be a reason people are not getting too sick with COVID-19. Might be important info on generating a vaccine but it also helps explain why there's such a disparity of people being deathly ill and others that get over it in a few days. Older people with weak immune systems also might not have been exposed to other coronaviruses which could also explain why they die from it at a greater rate, in combination with an already weak immune system. Average age of death from COVID-19 is 80 and people in their 80's tend to stay home all day so they are less likely to get exposed to illnesses.

[franky1]

https://directorsblog.nih.gov/2020/07/28/immune-t-cells-may-offer-lasting-protection-against-covid-19/

An intriguing new study of these memory T cells suggests they might protect some people newly infected with SARS-CoV-2 by remembering past encounters with other human coronaviruses. This might potentially explain why some people seem to fend off the virus and may be less susceptible to becoming severely ill with COVID-19.

Extremely important study published recently - T cell immunity seems to be a reason people are not getting too sick with COVID-19. Might be important info on generating a vaccine but it also helps explain why there's such a disparity of people being deathly ill and others that get over it in a few days. Older people with weak immune systems also might not have been exposed to other coronaviruses which could also explain why they die from it at a greater rate, in combination with an already weak immune system. Average age of death from COVID-19 is 80 and people in their 80's tend to stay home all day so they are less likely to get exposed to illnesses.

its not a case of if you had mers and sars in 2012 and 2002 then your 100% gonna be fine
there are many factors at play

also 80 is not the average age number of covid death the average age was actually ~45
the study you were looking at presumably was the CDC one that included those dying OF and WITH covid.

yet a separate more direct study straight from public health(the doctors reporting system) of people who died directly OF covid related symptoms shows that only ~30% were over 65 and so the average age of people dying directly due to covid was ~45

i said it many many times
the UK gov looks at the NHS stats not the ONS stats
the US gov looks at the DHSC stats not the CDC stats

because ONS and CDC get their reporting differently and later they are less reliable and contain some generalisations
i know a few conspiracy nuts have taken this innacuracy to then pretend the world depends on these stats from ONS CDC. to then pretend its all fake.
but reality is that the governments never did actually use monthly reports with summarise from those sources for their daily requirements. they instead got data straight from hospital records daily

[Gyfts]

https://directorsblog.nih.gov/2020/07/28/immune-t-cells-may-offer-lasting-protection-against-covid-19/

An intriguing new study of these memory T cells suggests they might protect some people newly infected with SARS-CoV-2 by remembering past encounters with other human coronaviruses. This might potentially explain why some people seem to fend off the virus and may be less susceptible to becoming severely ill with COVID-19.

Extremely important study published recently - T cell immunity seems to be a reason people are not getting too sick with COVID-19. Might be important info on generating a vaccine but it also helps explain why there's such a disparity of people being deathly ill and others that get over it in a few days. Older people with weak immune systems also might not have been exposed to other coronaviruses which could also explain why they die from it at a greater rate, in combination with an already weak immune system. Average age of death from COVID-19 is 80 and people in their 80's tend to stay home all day so they are less likely to get exposed to illnesses.

its not a case of if you had mers and sars in 2012 and 2002 then your 100% gonna be fine
there are many factors at play

also 80 is not the average age number of covid death the average age was actually ~45
the study you were looking at presumably was the CDC one that included those dying OF and WITH covid.

yet a separate more direct study straight from public health(the doctors reporting system) of people who died directly OF covid related symptoms shows that only ~30% were over 65 and so the average age of people dying directly due to covid was ~45

i said it many many times
the UK gov looks at the NHS stats not the ONS stats
the US gov looks at the DHSC stats not the CDC stats

because ONS and CDC get their reporting differently and later they are less reliable and contain some generalisations
i know a few conspiracy nuts have taken this innacuracy to then pretend the world depends on these stats from ONS CDC. to then pretend its all fake.
but reality is that the governments never did actually use monthly reports with summarise from those sources for their daily requirements. they instead got data straight from hospital records daily

There's no way the average age of death is 45. Not a chance in hell. Post the source. The overall death rate of COVID-19 is .2-.6 percent. Vast majority are reported to be older folks with younger folks getting over the disease without hospitalization.

The U.S. had a larger sample size of death, as grim as it sounds, which gives a more accurate indication as to what group is most susceptible to COVID-19 and it's well into the 70's and early 80's.