Coronavirus Outbreak

[franky1]

Wow! Just yesterday when I reported on the Kaufman videos; you still haven't watched them to figure out how to do research, and to see why we don't know what SARS or Covid really are, or if there is any difference between them.

you and kaufmans scripts are both the same outdated stupidity
heck even kaufmans videos are months old. and based on his "research" from january

i kept telling you its now july and yet your stuck with scripts from january

they have identified what sars and covid are
for instance diagnostically they know its not similar symptomology of ebola, but similar to sars
they also used microscopes on samples from the sick patients with this same symptomology and found the common demoninator.
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they have actually tested it on multiple animals and test subjects.
multiple places around the world have done it using different techniques showing that it all comes with the same results. proving there is no fault with the techniques because they were able to isolate and then infect test specimens with different techniques

they also sequenced thousands and thousands  of peoples infections and seen they all had the common denominator
they have also seen this common demoninator's sequence is of the same family as other SARS. yet nothing like ebola or chickenpox or other things


its funny how even now you are avoiding reading the reports that kaufman say dont exist/were suppressed. yet i have shown that they are public knowledge and easily available. and its actually your ignorance that is suppressing your ability to find them

i know your acting like a toddler trying to have a tantrum so that you can be spoonfed. and then only favouring the people that do spoonfeed you. but atleast try one day to be a big boy and learn to feed yourself with good stuff instead of the sloppy soup your getting spoonfed by idiots

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[tvbcof]

Wow! Just yesterday when I reported on the Kaufman videos; you still haven't watched them to figure out how to do research, and to see why we don't know what SARS or Covid really are, or if there is any difference between them.

you and kaufmans scripts are both the same outdated stupidity
heck even kaufmans videos are months old. and based on his "research" from january

i kept telling you its now july and yet your stuck with scripts from january ...

In Jan/Feb/Mar timeframe the script was that 'the virus' had a mortality in the 4% to 6% range and we just needed to be careful for a few weeks in order to 'flatten the curve' so as not to temporarily swamp the medical system.

Now the reality is that the mortality is a tiny fraction of one percent, and even then only if you label a motorcycle accident death a 'covid-19' as long as the known flawed tests of the corpse which test for nothing describable come up 'positive' for 'covid-19' when you pay the lab enough money to achieve a positive result.

The 'script' is now, half a year later, that we all have to wear masks and 'social distance' until at the very least for the foreseeable future until a vaccine funded by obvious eugenicist Bill Gates' vaccine has been uptaken by his choice of percentages of the population.  And, of course, the 'great reset', as scripted the the World Economic Forum [board members of the world's largest corporations and various royal family members], will dictate the function of the future of human society.

This 'script' was not difficult to predict.  Many of us came very close.  We where hoping that it would not go so smoothly for 'them', but as they say, 'it is what it is.'  We will probably 'move forward' as two distinct classes of people with respect to understanding the aforementioned observations.  It's probably past time to decide in which catagory to be.

Beyond that, there are people in the 'understand accurately' group who are known as 'useful idiots.'  They choose a the 'dark side' accidentally because the bought all the bullshit about how these are 'necessary birth-pangs' for a better world and all that garbage.  The flip-side here would be people who understand the event as a standard faire engineered 'turning' implemented by a certain class of people for their own benefit.  The 'useful idiot' class will not see their 'utopian world' emerge because they will be lined up along the wall and shot just as Bezmenov describes and for just the reason he describes.

There is nothing new under the sun.  Every totalitarian 'revolution' works in the same basic manner.  It's just that technology changes, and with said changes so too the scope of the effort.  The only difference here is that this time it is 'global' which is just a reflection of humanity's current state of technological progress.

[Gyfts]

going back to school "as normal" has its risks
some countries are putting the 'at risk' students which do have vulnerable parents in a separate class which get special attention and rules. where as other classes with parents that dont care and happy for kids to mingle can go to 'normal' classes

This might be a good idea depending on the school. I didn't think about something like this. I'm wondering how this would work in public schools that might be overcrowded. Most schools tend to be separated by age because the content is delivered by your grade level so keeping separate rooms might be problematic. Schools tend to be germ factories for that matter too so there might not even be midway solution of kids who have vulnerable parents. You either go to school or just stay home because mitigating risk while being at school is tough.

right now schools are open in places like the UK for the ones that do have parents that work and if not at school the kids would suffer/end up being babysat by random people, thus increase the spread risk. so the UK has schools open. but not 'as normal'

The UK isn't seeing evidence that these schools are acting as transmission vectors though. Nearly all European countries have their schools open and Sweden never shut down their schools. Very little evidence out there that large spikes of coronavirus are originating from schools. And these countries are small enough to where contact tracing is possible, unlike large cities in the U.S.

but trying to protest that every situation whether its work/social/education should just go back to 'normal' is just being ignorant of the risks

Like I said, there are risks associated with opening schools but there are ways to mitigate the risk. Create an asynchronous online option for children that need to do online schooling because of being in a household of vulnerable adults. Keep older teachers at home and give them the ability to skype/zoom into the classroom to deliver the material and have young teachers or mentors in the classrooms to proctor and monitor.

Look at the risks at not having schools open. You have large gaps in education which will affect minority students who live in low income households disproportionately than anyone else. You're depriving kids of social interaction. With teenagers, this leads to depression and social isolation. With young elementary aged school children, you take away their ability for social learning and this surely has an effect on social development. In addition, there are parents who need to attend work who rely on school for day care for their children. No school means some parents can't work.

You can't win either way because of risks associated on both sides of the issue. But given the fact that coronavirus isn't dangerous to kids, it's in the best interest of children to keep schools open.

[JoMarrah Iarim Dan]

This is quickly becoming a global issue.

"Possible Coronavirus Case Under Investigation In Texas, Los Angeles"
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/china-quarantines-second-city-experts-warn-its-already-too-late-stop-virus

"China Quarantines City Of 11 Million As Hong Kong Confirms Second Case Of Coronavirus"
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/coronavirus-infections-climb-473-china-hong-kong-confirms-first-case

Today July 21 I am reading this topic posted last January 23. During that time it was at the investigation but now after 6 months it is alreadyl the whole world trying to beat this invisible deadly thing. The world is facing this virus. There are high number of deaths in every country. Some said it is already at their second wave like the China.

[Tash]

How to deal with Corona Virus
https://youtu.be/FIuHRgPCeLk
Just disappeared, no more virus 

[BADecker]

How to deal with Corona Virus
https://youtu.be/FIuHRgPCeLk
Just disappeared, no more virus 

Did he get plastic or glass shrapnel in his drink?     

[bryant.coleman]

Did anyone noticed this news:

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/delhi/delhis-sero-prevalence-study-finds-23-48-per-cent-people-affected-by-covid-19/articleshow/77085162.cms

Delhi's sero-prevalence study has found that 23.48 per cent of the people have been affected by Covid-19 in the city, which has several pockets of dense population, the Union Health Ministry said on Tuesday.

A study which was conducted in the Indian capital concluded that almost one-fourth of the population was "exposed" to the Coronavirus, as evident from the prevalence of IgG antibodies. That means that somewhere between 4 and 5 million people were "exposed". As per the officials, the number of Coronavirus patients stand at ~125,000 for Delhi.

Now I am confused about these two figures. As per the authorities, 125,000 are infected and some 4-5 million are exposed.

What is the difference between these two?

Does that mean that virus entered the bodies of 4-5 million people, and out of them only 125,000 got the disease?

[tvbcof]

Friends.  Beware of wild stories about how the new so-called nucleic acid so-called vaccines 'work'.  In particular, be wary of stories about how they are going to 'change your DNA' and 'create a satanic three-strand DNA' and that sort of thing.  These are psychological operations of the Cass Sunstein variety.  The goal is to stand up straw-men which are easy to knock down.

Here's a presentation by the Imperial Collage (and assoc) variety of so-called 'self enhancing RNA' vaccines from a while ago:

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZHBn-ilVB8

The basic theory of operation does NOT imply integration into the chromasomal DNA with something like CRISPR.  The designer genetic materiel infects one's cells and makes the cell into a virus part factory, but it does not need to integrate into the cell's DNA which resides in the nucleus.  Shouting that this is going to happen, and especially that it is going to happen to germ cells (sperm and eggs) in order to change one's children, is easily 'debunked' whether it happens to be one of the end goals of the designs or not.  So, it will not help.

That said, the presentation itself is, to me, jaw-droppingly alarming in a bunch of ways.  To name a few points:

 - They dropped a section out of the presentation and mentioned the tickling of Luciferase later on without context so it seems plausible that the censored part was associated with that concept.

 - They need to short circuit the 'inate immune system' which one can recognize in conversations about interleukin in order to get things to work _in humans_.  No conversation about why humans have such an un-mouse-like physiology and if turning it off...using MERS derived material interestingly enough...might cause any problems.  (Sharp eyed readers might recall how a lot of cancer treatments and viral issues more generally center around therapies involving interleukin-II and such,)

 - They are hijacking cells in order to get them to produce virus parts, but they have no idea how long the cells may keep cranking these parts out in humans.  That logically implies that they have no idea whether long-term production of the virus parts, or the MERS-associated parts needed to retard the innate immune system, will have negative long term effects.

Anyone who gets this 'vaccine' in the course of the next decade is by definition a trial subject.  The Science Gods at the WHO have already admitted that they have taken over the human immune system via their existing programs, lots of their assumptions have been proven wrong, and have no idea if it is even possible to carry the weight that they have already shouldered.  If anything, the current crop of Engineers seem to be even more clueless, vain, and short-sighted than the ones who've got us into a giant mess already.  I will be doing everything I can think of to be avoiding the new so-called vaccines for both myself and for my family who I am now responsible for.  The evidence is clear that a LOT of the people working on these project also feel responsible for my family...responsible to get rid of them because, you know, 'carbon footprint.'

[Naida_BR]

You know that a new lockdown is coming on October.
That period people will get sick due to flus that occur normally when the weather changes and governments will say that all those people are getting sick with coronavirus... Remember my words..

[Tash]

Important revelations shared by Dr Stoian Alexov, President of the Bulgarian Pathology Association

"No One Has Died From the Coronavirus"
https://greenmedinfo.com/blog/op-ed-no-one-has-died-coronavirus

[BADecker]

Important revelations shared by Dr Stoian Alexov, President of the Bulgarian Pathology Association

"No One Has Died From the Coronavirus"
https://greenmedinfo.com/blog/op-ed-no-one-has-died-coronavirus

I think it's too early to tell if anyone ever died from any form of Coronavirus. Identification of any form of CV is inconclusive, since the testing for it was never done correctly. This means that Covid might actually exist, even though it probably doesn't. So, we simply don't know if anybody ever died from Coronavirus or not... since it might not even exist.

[franky1]

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZHBn-ilVB8

you have to take many things into account.
1. yes its not about changing human DNA
2. yes its about letting the vaccine which is emulating a virus to replicate. but not at the same damaging rate as a wild virus
3. to me the -unmouse- comparison just seems like a simple math problem
if your giving a mouse 10microgram. a ferret 100microgram a monkey 400microgram.. but then a human only 100microgram
well a human should be on 4000micrograms because its obviously 10x more then a monkey..
but giving it only 100 = 2.5% then yea when a monkey shows 10,000, a human would only show a couple hundred.... simple math
so its not really showing how humans are different but that dosage vs biology shows a human wont react as much
4. its about interferon not interleukin
interferons signal many things. it signal the infected cell to die as well as signal to cause inflammation.
because a potential vaccine does not have a damaging viral part its just temporarily using a cells 'factory' to replicate enough to then make to then trigger mass antibody production and keep 'memory' antibodies

in short. instead of a wild virus that has uncontrolled replication and will eventually kill every cell it invades and swamp your body in puss and fluid and inflammation .
this vaccine will temporarily borrow a cell to make controlled speed replication slower than wild virus. to then get your body to react to deal with the virus without cell damage and without inflammation

thus no symptoms

[BADecker]

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZHBn-ilVB8

you have to take many things into account.
1. yes its not about changing human DNA
2. yes its about letting the vaccine which is emulating a virus to replicate. but not at the same damaging rate as a wild virus
3. to me the -unmouse- comparison just seems like simple math problem
if your giving a mouse 10microgram. a ferret 100microgram a monkey 400microgram.. bu then a human only 100microgram
well a human should be on 4000micrograms because its obviously 10x more then a monkey..
but giving it only 100 = 2.5% then yea when a monkey shows 10,000 a human would only show a couple hundred.... simple math
so its not really showing how humans are different but that dosage vs biology shows a human wont react as much
4. its about interferon not interleukin
interferons signal many things. but also signal the infected cell to die as well as cause inflammation
because a potential vaccine does not have a damaging viral part its just temporarily using a cells 'factory' to replicate enough to then make it identify as a 'alien' pathogen
it doesnt want to kill the cell but allow the pathogen to replicate just enough to then trigger antibodies.
to kill just the 'alien pathogen'

in short. instead of a wild virus that has uncontrolled replication and will eventually kill every cell it invades and swamp your body in puss and fluid and imflammation .
this vaccine will temporarily borrow a cell to make controlled speed replication slower than wild virus. to then get your body to react to deal with the virus without cell damage and inflammation

thus no symptoms

It's really about finding out if there IS a virus, or if we have been looking at exosomes all along.

[franky1]

Important revelations shared by Dr Stoian Alexov, President of the Bulgarian Pathology Association

"No One Has Died From the Coronavirus"
https://greenmedinfo.com/blog/op-ed-no-one-has-died-coronavirus

the pathologists are not doing the autopsies.
they were talking about how THEY dont know what the cause of death was because all they are handling is the samples of lung specimens

they did say that there is ways to see what damage the virus does do. but for THEM to declare the cause of death THEY would need to do the autopsy.
they mentioned how if the ICU doctor sees specific symptom onset and the test samples show particular things then the ICU doctor can very easily diagnose it as a cause of death due to covid.

i know you want to make it sound like no one knows. but the question and answer was if a tire repair guy is given a tire. he cannot tell the condition of the car. unless he himself looked at the car and examined the whole car. however other mechanics that get hands on with the whole car are better at diagnosing whats wrong with the car.

[franky1]

It's really about finding out if there IS a virus, or if we have been looking at exosomes all along.

they know there is a virus they identified it and found that its of the corona family and not the ebola or other family.
ive already corrected you many times in this topic. can you atleast try reading more and being ignorant less

they passed the koch, rivers and bell tests. you have been told this
they have studied it in many hospitals with different methodology with many patients. and all came with a common demominator thus ruling out errors of equipment facility, doctor
they then tested it on healthy specimens and seen multiple specimens of different types become sick because of the virus. and retested those specimens to ensure what the specimens had while sick was the same as what they injected and the same as what was in the original source people they isolated

thus ruling out any other cause
you have been told this
you have been given links that explain it and even explain all the where, how, who, what and when
mice hamsters, snakes and other animals were used. so you cant even try to meander it to sound like they problem was animal type based error

[BADecker]

It's really about finding out if there IS a virus, or if we have been looking at exosomes all along.

they know there is a virus they identified it and found that its of the corona family and not the ebola or other family.
ive already corrected you many times in this topic. can you atleast try reading more and being ignorant less

they passed the koch, rivers and bell tests. you have been told this
they have studied it in many hospitals with different methodology with many patients. and all came with a common demominator thus ruling out errors of equipment facility, doctor
they then tested it on healthy specimens and seen multiple specimens of different types become sick because of the virus. and retested those specimens to ensure what the specimens had while sick was the same as what they injected and the same as what was in the original source people they isolated

thus ruling out any other cause
you have been told this
you have been given links that explain it and even explain all the where, how, who, what and when
mice hamsters, snakes and other animals were used. so you cant even try to meander it to sound like they problem was animal type based error

This is a forum. You actually could show how and where anybody did any work according to any process. But since you don't... okay. It's a forum.

BTW. The Microsphere Nanoscope is starting to prove a whole lot of our assumed virus process understanding to be wrong. Now we can actually watch the viruses live and move, and we are finding that they aren't exactly what we thought they were, and why they are doing the work they do.

Consider the article "Dismantling The Viral Theory" at https://www.drrobertyoung.com/post/dismantling-the-viral-theory.

[Tash]

One guy knowing all about social distancing, how to wear mask correctly

[franky1]

Consider the article "Dismantling The Viral Theory" at https://www.drrobertyoung.com/post/dismantling-the-viral-theory.

funny part is that you grab data of one process in 1950's and then think that no new processes have occured in that time or after. and think that its the only thing that was ever done(facepalm)

there are many ways to identify and isolate a virus.
guess your forgetting koch,rivers,bell tests that are then used to prove it.

its weird how you think the only way things are done is by spinning a fluid in a centrifuge and then extracting the layers of different grades of fluid and trying to see which ones cause the symptomology your looking for
i guess you missed the part where it said many things were done in other experiments
sorry but no.
there is also chemical extraction, heat extraction and other methods

"One part is used to determine the size, type and composition of the nucleic acid; in a separate procedure, the other part is used to determine the amount, size and morphology of the proteins of the phages. Since the 1970s, these tests have been simple standard techniques that are learned by every biology student in their first semesters."

but your article writer doesnt talk about the 'other procedures' but instead backtracks to the 1950's centrifugal 'filtration' process and pretends thats all that is being done

as for the article writer wanting to umbrella term it as "phages" is the article writer being subtly ignorant of the known differences between what bacteria. viruses, particles, poisons, spores are
by him just claiming they are just phages is him trying to hide the fact that scientists can actually identify different characterises.

then he just does to wonderland(falls down a hole telling a story of fantasy thats nothing like reality)
he seems to be the type of person that would call a plane, train, bike as also being a car. because a car is a type of vehicle and bikes and trains are vehicles too so then he feels a bike or train must also be a car

yet modern humans with brains can easily see and know that a bike is not a car

[BADecker]

Consider the article "Dismantling The Viral Theory" at https://www.drrobertyoung.com/post/dismantling-the-viral-theory.

funny part is that you grab data of one process in 1950's and then think that no new processes have occured in that time or after. and think that its the only thing that was ever done(facepalm)

So you think that just because we made all kinds of advances, that somebody has applied Rivers' updating of Koch's postulates correctly, and come up with viruses. Lol.

You can't even show the details of one report that shows this.

[Juggy777]

Government people are starting to wake up regarding the corruption going on in this pandemic.


SCIENCE FRAUD: Florida Gov. DeSantis calls for investigation into why people are testing “positive” for coronavirus tests they never received?

After learning that waves of people who were never even tested for the Wuhan coronavirus (COVID-19) received mysterious "positive" results, Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis, a Republican, decided to call for an investigation into the matter to get to the bottom of it.

According to reports, Gov. DeSantis has asked the state's Department of Health to look into the situation further. He announced that it makes no sense whatsoever that people who were never even evaluated by a practitioner are now receiving anomalous positive test results that are being used by some to push for more lockdowns and mask-wearing.

"For that to come back positive, when there was no specimen submitted, is problematic," DeSantis is quoted as saying. "So I've heard it enough to be concerned about it."

As we recently reported, many of Florida's testing laboratories have been submitting boatloads of false positives to the official government databases, which has majorly skewed the state's infection statistics.

Now it appears as though people who were never even tested are being told, possibly at random, that they have the coronavirus, which further skews the official statistics and makes it seem as though "spikes" of infection are occurring when they are actually not.

"I asked the Department of Health to look at that because I heard it, too," DeSantis added about these strange anomalies. "If you can give us, if people that have told you that are willing to provide their name, we're interested in investigating this because it's ridiculous."

The official coronavirus narrative is collapsing like a house of cards

Local Florida news affiliate FOX 35 News has confirmed that many people are reporting similar occurrences in their families. People all across the Sunshine State say that they are "testing positive" for the Wuhan coronavirus (COVID-19) when they never even got tested, and now they are demanding answers.

"How does someone test positive for coronavirus if they have never been tested?" the news outlet asks. "Reports of this happening have been pouring in to FOX 35 News since we began investigating COVID-19 data."

@BADecker this is happening in many places as hospitals are trying to monetise this pandemic, but considering that Florida is a Republican state it’s quiet possible that someone is intentionally trying to cause fear, and make sure that the state remains under lockdown and doesn’t open up soon.

In my personal opinion this is done solely to cause harm to Trump re-election bid because if more states continues to remain under lockdown then it’s become more difficult for Trump to revive the US economy, but I won’t be naming anyone yet as there’s not substantial proof to accuse anyone at this stage.